Press repeat: need a patsy? pick a "jew"

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Press repeat: need a patsy? pick a "jew"

Postby jc » Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:25 pm

<br>right. first off i chose the title cause it actually covers what i'm trying to say here, but if you all think i should change it tell me and i will.<br><br>i just want to set down some thoughts of mine that've been bothering me the past few weeks. has to do with lebanon and the media play both mainstream and alternative.<br><br>what i'm thinking is this: i see history repeating itself. as the IDF commits more crimes in the leb more and more "pieces of the puzzle" are falling into place. people are quoting scripture, broad brushing, re-visioning history, and all at the same time more and more play is given to the "i told you so" crowd: the people who see a jew behind everything: 911, Oklahoma City, Iraq, Afghanistan, you name it. <br><br>and i know about the ADL, AIPAC and so on. i admit they have influence. what i'm thinking is they were meant to.<br><br>i think someone like Doug Feith for instance wishes he was D Rumsfeld. i don't think it works the other way round. <br><br>here where i'm at we don't have christian fundies in the way the states do. up here people support israel because "they're more like us, i mean they're jews but at least they're white." and then you get the judaeo-christian democratic culture thing, not first off.<br><br>and i look back at balfour and the great game and i hear some "gentleman," somewhere say:<br><br>"ah, perfect! we throw these guys in as our proxy force to divide and weaken the natives. at the same time we win brownie points for giving them a homeland and we get to ride the moral high horse and meddle in everyone's affairs when we're asked to broker peace and understanding. brilliant."<br><br>i'm not saying the IDF are innocent. they're the goombah. thing is. goombahs get paid. they get orders. they have backing. <br><br>it just seems to me that the padrone has been planting evidence that "shows" he had nothing to do with this particular goombah when the time comes.<br><br>like the thing about the five mossad agents dancing on a rooftop in brooklyn.<br><br>that comment when they were caught: "its the palestinians…" or whatever, suggests to me acceptance of what went down, maybe, maybe complicity (but then again why would the mossad warn about the coming attacts?). but what it most smacks of in my ears is: "we're with the program. we're on your side." <br><br>and just recently some posted here on rove's father and paperclip, and i'm reminded of bush and the others and their part in the reich.<br><br>and here's the scary thought i had: those camps being built? many of us out of some sense of grandeur and "i was always part of le resistance" self delusion would love to think they're meant for us. what if they ain't? what if they're meant for the "usual suspects"?<br><br>what if bush cometh back from yon blessed crawford and professeth to a road to damascus moment? if he gits up and sayeth to the congregation: <br><br>"ah was blind but now ah see. ah was taken in by the devul. i wrestled with that there devul and the lawd stood by me. it was the joos i tell ya! they done fooled us agin! just like in the good book!"<br><br>and history i think backs me up here. i mean every time a revolt against tyranny was about to break out what happens? the PsTB "discover" the guilty jew, then come the progroms. and when the dust has settled, a few seats have shifted, and the names of certain offices and ministries have been changed, the tyrants remain.<br><br>someone's setting up another patsy. and i think it's going to come as no surprise who he has in mind.<br><br>* * * * *<br><br>tell me i'm paranoid <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Press repeat: need a patsy? pick a "jew"

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:29 pm

You <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>REALLY</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> think Israel isn't it's own master? <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Postby jc » Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:46 pm

i think it has an awfully big gorilla behind it.<br><br>i think it serves as a tool. and i think jews as always are going to get the blame.<br><br>don't know if that answers your question. best i can do right now. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby chiggerbit » Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:51 pm

I've been thinking along the same lines, jc. I'm remembering how Cheney and Rumsfeld have been stirring this stew LONG before the (Jewish) neocons came to power. (Jewish)neocons who were brought in to this administration by.....? Not sure of Israel's role with Cheney and Rummy. Who is using whom? Right hand washing the left hand? I'm still not convinced that this whole thing isn't some big business manipulation, considering Rummy's and Cheney's business affiliations. <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby jc » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:19 pm

yeh, another FUNNY thing. remember the neocon plan that was turned down by netanyahu?<br><br>he turned it down. <br><br>and that thing (it gets a lot of milage) about him saying "this is good for israel." it may be callous and so on, but it is also incredibly stupid. at the same time i think it shows who's dependent upon whom here. who has the clout. <br><br>it's US vetoes at the UN that work, not israeli vetoes.<br><br>at the same time the US can turn around, wring her hands and say "oh, i was so mistaken. i thought they would change. i was mislead," and a LOT of people are going to buy it. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=jc@rigorousintuition>jc</A> at: 8/6/06 7:22 pm<br></i>
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Postby jc » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:21 pm

also, there's the backlash against prof chomsky's contention that the US has the muscle based on his take on JFK.<br><br>i don't think he's right on JFK, but i do think he's right re israel. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby chiggerbit » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:32 pm

And never forget the Bush family's association, business-wise, with the Nazis. Very opportunistic profiles. Hell, look at the way they use Sun Myung Moon, take all sorts of financial "support" from him, but you know good and well that they snicker about him in the privacy of their own homes about how they use him. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby jc » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:44 pm

"I'm still not convinced that this whole thing isn't some big business manipulation, considering Rummy's and Cheney's business affiliations."<br><br>it's business alright, in my view. business as usual. you remember the merchant from venice: shakespeare, and shylock?<br><br>everyone's on about shylock being who he is, they'll speak aginst "jewish banking" or they'll say shakespeare was anti-semitic. but no one talks about who it was exactly gave shylock the writ to run his business in venice and taxed him, and blamed him, and put him to the stake while they counted their takings. the people who can then come round and say how about that, we done saved you from shylock? where's your 401?<br><br>this is the exact same thing. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=jc@rigorousintuition>jc</A> at: 8/6/06 7:44 pm<br></i>
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Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:48 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>they snicker about him in the privacy of their own homes about how they use him.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Snickering behind someone's back by no means indicates they have the jump on the guy. I don't see any largest-aquifers-in-the-so-and-so-continent under the Bush dynasty's portfolio.. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Postby chiggerbit » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:53 pm

Maybe not, et, but they have his money and his body here in the US in case they ever want to "arrest" him the way they did Noriega. Do you think they wouldn't try to take control of the aquifers, if they wanted? Well, IF they were allowed by Bolivia or Brazil or whatever country the aquifer is under allows it. Which is getting more questionable, considering the current state of politics in South America today. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 8/6/06 7:59 pm<br></i>
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Postby bvonahsen » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:02 pm

Sure the Bushes will use Israel, they'll use anyone if it comes to that. I don't believe for a second that this nation would buy an about face like you suggest. True there are lots of mindless fundagelicals out here. I live out here in the wilds of the midwest, but thing is, they aren't the majority they like to <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>think</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> they are. Israel would have to hand deliver a nuke and drop it on the capitol before the US would turn on them.<br><br>Given that GW's friends have such a short life expectancy, I would think that the powers that be would try to pin some blame on Israel. And they will take much of Islams' vengenance, Israel is in for a rude awakening on that front. But no way would we round up jewish people here in the states. I can't see it happening.<br><br>I don't believe the interment camps will be filled with jews. Those are there as a last resort measure, governments do that. I don't believe that anyone in this government hopes to use them. On the other hand I do think they wouldn't hesitate to make use of them if the situation warrented it. Perhaps, if there really are some shadowy elite puppet masters, perhaps they have plans like what you're talking about. I'm willing to entertain the idea but I'm not really convinced. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby chiggerbit » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:07 pm

I'm not saying that Israel is innocent in Gaza or Lebanon, far from it (they remind me of the Nazis), but just that the current Israeli government is probably hand-in-glove with the Bush administration, AND THEN the administration will dump Israel when it suits them and feign innocence. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby jc » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:09 pm

in the news:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.arabnews.com/?page=4&section=0&article=75907&d=6&m=8&y=2006">India Bans Arab TV Channels Under Pressure From Israel</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br>Shahid Raza Burney, Arab News<br> <br>BOMBAY, 6 August 2006 — In a country widely referred to as the world’s largest democracy, the Indian government has succumbed to mounting Israeli pressure and ordered a nationwide ban on the broadcast of Arab television channels.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>guess who made that happen? US/Indian deal on nuclear power anyone?<br><br>quess who gets to play the ogre? oh, right. the headline's a giveaway. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby chiggerbit » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:16 pm

Bush said: 'God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them.'" </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Press repeat: need a patsy? pick a "jew"

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:21 pm

I think your original point is valid jc. Seems that Israel is being set up for a fall and the worldwide Jewish community will probably get lumped in with them.<br><br>That Red heiffer makes me think Israel is being played.<br><br>Sure they are playing their own games as well. I just don't see an out for them. Their only real chance was to make peace work 10 years ago, and the right wing and the settlers seemed to end that with a bang.<br><br>There is nowhere left to go, cept out in a blaze of glory.<br><br>Its all a massive mess thats for sure.<br><br>The Nazis are coming out and they will play the Jew card.<br><br>Arggggh <p></p><i></i>
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