UK counter-terrorism op foils aircraft explosion plot

by **HMKGrey** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:55 am

Bojinka is being talked about lot on CNN. It's surreal to watch. I'd forgotten how they do this stuff with all the logos and names for things. Apparently, we need to 'know our enemy' next Sunday night and Christiane Amanpour will be tracking Bin Ladin for an hour. Criminy.

by **pugzleyca3** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:05 am

Tonight I saw Chertoff talking. He was saying that the "terrorists" were making some kind of a container to hold the liquid. And made it sound as if this were a new concept--a recepticle which is disguised to look like a drink. He said he hadn't seen this container yet and the DHS would go through a bunch of complicated sounding logistics to be able to identify said containers with their gizmos while searching people's items at the airport so they would be able to carry on items. Anyhoo... my point is that I have seen fake coke cans, shaving cream cans, and canned vegetable cans where you screw off the bottom and put contraband or whatever inside them. You used to be able to buy these at gag gift shops and novelty shops. These things are so well made that people used to smuggle drugs through airports in them as recently as the late 80's. It was impossible to tell them from the real thing. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find these cans. But of course, everything about their op has to sound sooooo complicated and over the heads of real people. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=pugzleyca3>pugzleyca3</A> at: 8/11/06 12:07 am

by **smithtalk** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:16 am

The intelligence services lost track of a couple of suspects and therefore had to move fast, in case those vanished suspects were heading for an airport earlier than anticipated. Hence the Red Alert. The known suspects were arrested immediately, and the fugitive terrorists are now being hunted down. well, not quite arrested immediately, cos yahoo news says But a senior White House official said that the British government had not launched its raid until well after Cheney held a highly unusual conference call with reporters to attack the Democrats as weak against terrorism. <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060810/pl_afp/britainattacksairline_060810185330">news.yahoo.com/s/afp/2006...0810185330</a>

by **Et in Arcadia ego** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:48 am

ok, so wtf is this now? <a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1225453,00.html?cnn=yes">www.time.com/time/nation/...ml?cnn=yes</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Exclusive: U.S. picked up the suspects' chatter and shared it with British authorities; new federal alert warns that peroxide-based explosives could also be employed in future attacks in the U.S.<hr></blockquote> [Umm..I thought this was a joint effort between the UK and Pakistan. What's with the suggestion that the US was in deeply involved from the begining? The rest:] Wednesday night was a long and troubling one for Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff. A bubbling plot by British citizens to blow up airplanes had come to a boil in the past three days, and as British authorities arrested dozens of suspects around London, it was Chertoff's job to coordinate the U.S. defenses. Scary intelligence reports pop up all the time, but this particular terror operation got close enough to being carried out that it rattled even the normally sedate Chertoff. "Very seldom do things get to me," he told Rep. Peter King, the Republican chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, in a phone call late Wednesday night. "This one has really gotten to me." Chertoff had good reason to be worried. Senior U.S officials have confirmed to TIME details of the plot that led the secretary to ratchet up the color-coded security alert for British-U.S. flights to an unprecedented red for "Severe." A total of 24 individuals were arrested in Britain overnight and, says one senior U.S. official who was briefed on the plot, five still remain at large. Their plan was to smuggle the peroxide-based liquid explosive TATP and detonators onto nine different planes from four carriers — British Airways, Continental, United and American — that fly direct routes between the U.K and the U.S. and blow them up mid-air. Intelligence officials estimate that about 2,700 people would have perished, according to the official. Britain's MI-5 intelligence service and Scotland Yard had been tracking the plot for several months, but only in the past two weeks had the plotters' planning begun to crystallize, senior U.S. officials tell TIME. In the two or three days before the arrests, the cell was going operational, and authorities were pressed into action. MI5 and Scotland Yard agents tracked the plotters from the ground, while a knowledgeable American official says U.S. intelligence provided London authorities with intercepts of the group's communications. Most of the suspects are second or third generation British citizens of Pakistani descent whose families hailed from war-torn Kashmir. U.S. officials believe the 29 members were divided into multiple cells and planned to break into small groups to board the nine planes. During the past few months the plotters' attack plans had changed, > said Deputy Secretary for Homeland Security Michael Jackson. "There were different data sets about their interests over time that evolved," he said. It was only in recent days, said Jackson, that the plans began to focus on British-U.S. flights. The plot was "very near execution" but not imminent, Jackson said. "We didn't pull people off of airplanes." So as not to derail the British round-up, Chertoff had to wait until the early hours of Thursday morning after all the London arrests were made before notifying U.S. airports of the threat, say senior DHS officals. When it became clear the arrests would be wrapped up around 1 a.m Washington time, Chertoff got on a conference call with his Homeland Security Advisory Committee to approve changing the threat level. Then calls when out to the airlines, airline security companies and labor unions affected by the changes, as well as to members of Congress. Though the plot has all the hallmarks of an al Qaeda operation, U.S. officials cautioned that there isn't yet evidence of a direct link between the plotters and the organization's top leaders. "We're not convinced this particular operation is connected to the al Qaeda chain of command," Charles Allen, Chief of Intelligence for the Department of Homeland Security, told reporters on Thursday afternoon. As for whether the attack was being timed for the fifth anniversary of Sept. 11, Allen said he thought the attack would simply be launched when it was ready. "I am a long standing believer that terrorist plotters or planners execute when they have all of the plot together," said Allen. "We have no evidence this was timed to any particular holiday or special event." The plot also appears to be a return to older terrorist tactics of trying to blow up an airplane in mid air, rather than turn the jet into a missile as the Sept. 11 attackers did. Allen stressed that the plans seemed designed to kill passengers, not crash into a city on the ground. "We have no evidence there was targeting of cities," said Allen, "This was an effort to destroy multiple aircraft in flight — not against any territory of the United States." With five members of the cell believed to be at large, the threat still looms and intelligence officials are still working to unravel the full extent of the plot. "I don't believe we know all the dimensions of this plot. Time has to pass to determine that a network was disrupted," said Allen. Worries another U.S. official: "Plan A has been stopped, but the concern: Is there a Plan B?" The possibility that liquid explosives could be smuggled onto a plane is not a surprise to counterterrorism experts, and the tightening of U.S. airport security could only be temporary as security officials learn more about the extent of the plot and how to defend against such an attack. The current measures — stripping passengers of anything liquid in their carry-on luggage — were in reaction to these particular arrests, and not to the realization of a new, unforeseen threat. "We're primarily concerned about this particular plot," said Allen, implying that the new security measures are not permanent. FBI and Department of Homeland Security officials quickly alerted law enforcement agencies around the country to the peroxide-based liquid explosives the London plotters planned to bring aboard the American-bound planes. An alert the FBI and DHS sent out Thursday to state and local law enforcement agencies — which is classified "For Official Use Only" and was obtained by TIME — warns them that the peroxide-based explosives could also be employed in future attacks here. The Joint Homeland Special Assessment, which the FBI and DHS's Office of Intelligence Analysis drafted and sent out, is titled "Possible Terrorist Use of Liquid Explosive Materials in Future Attacks." The document states: "The FBI and DHS have no information of plotting within the United States, but such a possibility cannot be discounted." The FBI-DHS report notes that Osama bin Laden's top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri insisted in a July 27 videotape that Al Qaeda was still intent on conducting another "spectacular" attack in the United States. Zawahiri, the report notes, used photos of the World Trade Center burning on Sept. 11 and 9/11 leader Muhammad Atta "in the background of this video." The FBI-DHS report next warns law enforcement agencies about the two peroxide-based liquid explosive that could be used in a future attack against the U.S.--triacetone triperoxide (TATP) or hexamethylene triperoxide diamine (HMTD). The report describes how a terrorist would assemble bombs with these chemicals. Peroxide-based liquid explosives "are sensitive to heat, shock, and friction, can be initiated simply with fire or electrical charge, and can also be used to produce improvised detonators," the report states. "For example, TATP or HMTD may be placed in a tube or syringe body in contact with a bare bulb filament, such as that obtained from inside a Christmas tree light bulb, to produce an explosion." The report doesn't mention anything about a terrorist assembling such a bomb on a plane, but it does warn that manufacturing such a device can be dangerous for the bombmaker. "Because of the instability of these substances," the report notes, "spontaneous detonation can occur during the production process." Over the past ten years peroxide-based explosives have popped up in a number of terror operations, according to FBI-DHS report. "Terrorist have used peroxide-based explosive both as a main charge (weighing in excess of 20 pounds) and improvised detonators," the joint assessment states. "TATP was popularized as a main charge explosive in suicide bombs used by Palestinian terrorist groups." Ramzi Yousef, who was convicted in 1996 for plotting to simultaneously bomb up to a dozen U.S. commercial airliners flying in the Far East, had manufactured TATP detonators. Arrested Dec. 14, 1999, for planning to attack Los Angeles International Airport in the millennium bombing plot, Ahmed Ressam had HMTD and RDX (cyclotrimethylene trinitrame) in a vial in the trunk of his car. He also had over 100 pounds of urea sulfate white powder and eight ounces of nitroglycerine mixture. More recently, British shoe bomber Richard Reid tried to detonate his device with TATP as the initiator while aboard a Dec. 22, 2001, American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami. A mixture of TATP and ammonium nitrate was used in suicide bombs in Casablanca, Moroco on May 16, 2003. And the FBI-DHS report notes that four of the suicide bombers in the London subway attack July 7, 2005 "used peroxide-based explosive devices (IEDs), concealed inside rucksacks." With such a rich history, liquid explosives are sure to challenge America's counter-terror defenses for many years to come. ______________________________ Is it just me or have I made 2 accurate observations? 1 - The story was brand new late last night, but the MSM has droves and droves of data about it being very consistently time-released like a morphine drip. Like a Government-prepared Media packet they were sitting on(the media, not the Government..). 2 - There are obtuse differences in who's reporting what. I haven't had time to latch on the hardhat, but reviews of different news companies are presenting different information.. ____________________ Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=etinarcadiaego@rigorousintuition>et in Arcadia ego</A> <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.sickle666.com/images/Arcadia.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 8/11/06 12:49 am

by **smithtalk** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:55 am

After reading 'the independents' take on all this shit today, one thing kind of caught my attention, John Reid has taken personal charge of handling the terror alert facing Britain - leaving John Prescott on the sidelines. As the national security alert was raised to its maximum level and Labour MPs stepped up pressure for the recall of Parliament, the Home Secretary led the Government's response to the crisis. As Deputy Prime Minister, Mr Prescott is supposed to be in charge while Mr Blair is out of the country. His absence from either Cobra meeting, or the Westminster press conference, will reignite speculation his role is only nominal. Mr Reid's profile has rocketed since he took over at the Home Office 98 days ago after the sacking of Charles Clarke. <a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article1218439.ece">news.independent.co.uk/uk...218439.ece</a> So the big one arrives, the shampoo terror attack, and its been buiding for months, and tony blair - who lets face it is on the ropes a bit - is in barbados, and the bloke who supposed to do his job isnt doing it, John reid is, so I thought, who the fuck is john reid Reid is a senior member of the Labour Party, and as of May 8th 2006 has held eight Cabinet posts in seven years: Secretary of State for Scotland, Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (the first Roman Catholic to hold the position)[1], Minister Without Portfolio (Labour Party Chairman), Leader of the House of Commons and Lord President of the Council, Secretary of State for Health, Secretary of State for Defence and Home Secretary. Other positions held include Minister of State for Defence (1997-199<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> and Minister of State for Transport (1998-1999). Following the incumbent Labour Party's 2005 general election victory, he was moved as Secretary of State for Health to the position of Secretary of State for Defence, a move to a department Reid knew well. More controversially, during the 1990s Bosnian War, Reid struck up a friendship with Serb rebel leader and later indicted war-criminal Radovan Karadžić; Reid has admitted that he spent three days at a luxury Geneva lakeside hotel as a guest of Karadžić in 1993. Reid is also regarded as one of the most intelligent MPs in the House and a possible 'Stop Brown' candidate when Tony Blair relinquishes the Labour Party leadership. Reid has denied any such ambitions [5], though colleague Frank Field MP that "John Reid would certainly be among those to challenge for [the leadership]" After speaking ahead of a conference on NATO modernisation in Germany on 4 February 2006, Reid asserted in a press interview that "no institution has the divine right to exist". Reid was appointed Home Secretary on 5 May 2006, replacing Charles Clarke who was removed in the wake of a Home Office scandal involving the release of foreign national prisoners.[1]. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Reid_(UK_politician)">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joh...olitician)</a> The operator John Reid seemingly came from nowhere in the New Labour ranks to head the Northern Ireland office, with the task of sealing the peace that has proved so elusive. So, can a man who quotes Hegel and Gramsci as if they were the latest star footballers finalise the deal? He remains a relatively isolated figure even within New Labour. Without Blair's blessing, he'd be in the wilderness. He is more of a functionary than a potential leader; an apparatchik. If we had a Politburo instead of a cabinet, Reid would probably be running the State Security Division. And he'd probably be good at it. New Labour or no, there is not so much as a whiff of polenta about him. Reid's unpopularity with the Scottish Labour camp north of the border has several causes. Famously, he had a stand-up-bordering-on-a-get-y'r-mitts-up row with McLeish's predecessor, Donald Dewar, at the 1999 Labour party conference. The row was the culmination of a simmering battle over who really was in charge in post-devolution Scotland, Dewar as the Scottish Parliament's first minister, or Reid, as the Whitehall-based secretary of state. But the actual issue that provoked the finger-in-the-chest-poking contest was the Parliament's first scandal, where Reid's lobbyist son Kevin had been caught in the open boasting of his influence: "I know the secretary of state very, very well because he's my father," trilled Kevin into the hidden tape recorder of an undercover reporter posing as an American businessman. He remains extremely cagey about the whole Karadzic relationship. His defence is that, as a shadow defence minister, his potential role was to meet people engaged in conflict as a means of persuading them to stop violence. Reid was not alone. It has been argued that, during the Balkan wars, the peace efforts of Douglas Hurd and Lord Owen almost amounted to appeasement of the Bosnian Serbs' regime. <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/Northern_Ireland/Story/0,2763,659705,00.html">www.guardian.co.uk/Northe...05,00.html</a> A senior ministerial adviser involved in the plot hinted that Chancellor Gordon Brown’s refusal to make a move against Blair risked creating an opportunity for someone else to exploit. “The one figure absent from all this Gordon Brown. He still has the opportunity to end Blair’s leadership within days. But few expect him to take it. Knowing this, they are simply looking elsewhere,” he said. But is there anywhere else to look? Leaving aside, for the moment, the hard-left candidacy of John McDonnell, can anyone apart from Brown unite the warring party? Well, among the Blairite faction, there are plenty of would-be alternatives, including Education Secretary Alan Johnson, Environment Secretary David Miliband, Home Secretary John Reid, and arch-moderniser Alan Milburn. <a href="http://www.nw-enquirer.co.uk/politics/politics_comment/brown_could_live_to_rue_always_biding_his_time_200608111285.html">www.nw-enquirer.co.uk/pol...11285.html</a> So I conclude that whilst this is obviously about creating an attack on the west perception, and about connecticut primary, and about the expansion of the war onto four fronts, It is also about demonstrating to those that count who the hard man is, in preparation for the departure of tony blair

by **ParisianAttackMonkey** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:18 am

I'm just curious, Julius Streicher, the German journalist, who was such an important cog in the Nazi propaganda machine was hanged at Nuremburg as a war criminal. According to that bastion of truth Wikipedia - Streicher was not a member of the military and was not part of planning the Holocaust, the invasion of Poland, or the Soviet invasion. Yet his role in inciting the extermination of Jews was significant enough, in the prosecutors' judgment, to include him in the indictment. If someday someway someone is held accountable for this mess wouldn't the many journalists from CNN, FOX, the NY Times, and the other three letter networks, be just as guilty for their role in inciting the extermination of Arabs?

by **Et in Arcadia ego** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:33 am

What about Leni Riefenstahl, the brilliant Nazi propaganda film Director? She walked..I don't see any aspect or sublet of the MSM taking it's proper share of responsibility for it's viral meme-propagation.. Yellow journalism at it's height instigated scorn and contempt, but has any part of the American Media ever been given it's due and proper? I agree completely that they earned their places in the Ninth Circle..Too many revolving doors and parapolitics to see that happen without the REAL meltdown we need to wipe the slate clean and beg the world's forgiveness as irresponsible citizens.. Ask yourself this: What could possibly incite a PEOPLE, not persons, to hold the act of destroying themselves in the hopes of taking a few of us with them? Sickening idealogues? "Fascist Islam"(and oh, how I love that one..)? Is it not possible to reckon the(real) terrorists hate our guts cause collectively, we're just a buncha dickheads? *Bonus Latin lesson: Antenora: Traitors to Homeland ____________________ Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=etinarcadiaego@rigorousintuition>et in Arcadia ego</A> <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.sickle666.com/images/Arcadia.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 8/11/06 1:42 am

by **pugzleyca3** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:34 am

"If someday someway someone is held accountable for this mess wouldn't the many journalists from CNN, FOX, the NY Times, and the other three letter networks, be just as guilty for their role in inciting the extermination of Arabs?" What you are talking about here is bringing down the entire control grid. When I think about any of them held accountable, I see a web so huge that it would take a super hero to bring them down. If this comes to pass, things are going to have to get a whole lot worse for the Americans than they are right now and going down that road scares the crap outta me. Sometimes I think we're going to have to come under martial law for people to do anything about these criminals, and then, it'll probably be too late. They're in a hurry these days.

by **Wolfmoon Lady** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:36 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>But Bush aides on Thursday fought the notion that they had exploited their knowledge of the coming British raid to hit Democrats, saying the trigger had been the defeat of Democratic Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut by an anti-war political novice.<hr></blockquote> I knew it wouldn't be long after we kicked Lieberman out before the "Dems are weak on terror" canard came up. Here's what Buzzflash had to say: <a href="http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/analysis/089" target="top">U.K. Terror Plot Foiled Just a Day after Lieberman's Defeat. Coincidence?</a> Submitted by BuzzFlash on Thu, 08/10/2006 - 10:29am. A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS The pattern continues. A terrorist plot is uncovered just as the masses start to question national security strategy. The day after Senate Democrats brought a vote to pull out of Iraq, we catch a few idiots in Miami who were supposedly trying to blow up the Sears Tower, despite the fact that they lacked the means and ability to do so. Then there were the guys busted for supposedly plotting to blow up a New York subway exactly a year after the London bus bombings. And don't forget the release of new Osama bin Laden tapes just before the 2004 election as well as the very day after the Supreme Court decision striking down the Guantanamo Bay military tribunals. And now today, a few men in England were arrested for a plan to blow up planes flying to America, just a day after Connecticut voters flatly rejected Joe Lieberman and the war in Iraq. We certainly can't deny that there may have indeed been plans to commit these acts. But the timings of the arrest announcements are awfully suspicious. All three were still in the works and had been monitored for several months by very capable intelligence agencies. While the exact nature of today's arrests is still unclear, none of the plans seemed to have been immediate or imminent threats. The decision of when to intervene has been arbitrary, making the coincidental timings pretty convenient. (And the question of whether some of them are "real threats," such as the Liberty City "Insane Clown Posse" remain to be seen. And, of course, as BuzzFlash pointed out in several commentaries, the alleged plot to bomb tunnels into Manhattan in order to "flood the financial district and ruin the Wall Street economy" had one fatal flaw. Water does not flow upwards, and since Manhattan is above sea level, the plan, as the Busheviks promoted it through the press, was impossible. It defied the laws of gravity.) Imagine a conversation late Tuesday night between Bush and his British Prime Minister lapdog, just as Ned Lamont declares victory. "Yo, Blair," Bush says while scarfing down a dinner role. "I gotta to do something about this sh*t. Can you finally arrest those suspected terrorists you told me about? This election business is ruining my vacation! I know you're chillin' in the Caribbean yourself right now, but it sure would be great if you could make a few calls for me ASAP." Don't buy it? Consider this quote from a<a href="http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-08-10T134838Z_01_N10383008_RTRUKOC_0_US-SECURITY-BRITAIN-USA.xml" target="top"> Reuters article</a> on the story: "President George W. Bush had known about the investigation for several days, was briefed about it regularly and knew the arrests were coming, a senior administration official said." Both countries are surely monitoring several terrorist leads that could lead to arrests at any time. The British group would have been stopped eventually, but there has been absolutely no indication why it had to be today. Just yesterday Tony Snow and Dick Cheney told America that Lieberman's loss was going to make us less safe and warned of the dangers of our supposedly weakened resolve against terrorism. What better way to drive the point home than to catch some terrorists in England immediately afterwards? Based on a quote from the <a href="http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homeaffairs/story/0,,1841292,00.html" target="top">U.K. Guardian</a>, the Brits seem to have the same agenda: "The events unfolded just hours after (English Home Secretary John Reid) used a speech to a thinktank to accuse critics of the government's anti-terrorism measures of putting national security at risk through their failure to recognize the serious nature of the threat facing Britain." If the timing of the media announcement wasn't a political ploy, the rhetoric and propaganda sure are. "It was in some respects suggestive of an al-Qaeda plot," Homeland Security Director Chertoff said. Attorney General Gonzales also noted it was "suggestive of al-Qaeda tactics," and FBI director Robert Mueller claimed "this had the earmarks [sic] of an al-Qaeda plot." They still warned that it was too early to reach any conclusions, yet had no problems with dropping the name of the feared organization to implant the connection in our heads without proof. If they don't know, they shouldn't even make the suggestion. The Bush Administration has become masterful at scaring the bejesus out of us without actually saying anything factual. They did exactly the same thing when they were trying to connect Saddam to terrorists. The lengthy press conference today had an awful lot of "we believe" and not very much "we know." For his part, Bush personally declared that "it is a mistake to believe there is no threat to the United States of America" because "this nation is at war with Islamic fascists." There's also the mixed messages. On the one hand, Bush/Blair policies have saved the day. Tony Snow said "it is safe to travel." On the other hand, we are still in horrible danger and have to step up the terror alert warning to red. Are we more or less safe today than yesterday? While the original situation may have indeed been critical, the confusion created by ambiguities and conflicting reports have left most people in both America and Britain terrified. Airports are banning items such as hair gel and soda left and right in carry-on luggage and encouraging passengers to arrive even earlier for increased screening. While the logical conclusion should be that Bush and Iraq actually haven't helped at all, and if anything made us worse off, too many people will get swallowed up by the scare tactics into supporting Bush even more. And Karl Rove knows it. More importantly, all those pesky stories about Lamont, Lebanon, and even Iraq are now safe in the periphery. The problem is that Bush has lost all credibility. He's cried wolf so many times this could be the real deal with absolutely no impropriety and we would have no way to know. When there is this much distrust of the president, we are almost forced to assume we're being tricked again by the use of fear to manipulate public opinion. As the Orwellian dictator in the film "V for Vendetta" screams to his "cabinet" at one point: "I want them to know that they need us." Of course, the preservation of chaos was the goal for the rule by tyranny in "V," as it appears to be in Bushworld. Terrorist threats may or may not be real. They may or may not be activated as a result of the Busheviks now becoming the motivational cause of terrorists at this point. We will never know, as long as one-party dictatorship prevails and incompetence and unending war are the means of maintaining power. But timing is something you can document. And this timing of the latest act of terrorism announcement appears more political than operational. A senatorial candidate who questions the strategic value of the Iraq War is denounced by the top level of the Bush Administration as an appeaser of terrorists -- and then once again there is an arrest of people we are told intended to commit grievous acts of terrorism. There appears to be a pattern here, and it's one employed by masters of tyranny, not democracy, to cover up for a failed war and a failed foreign policy. But the sheeple can only bleat. A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS

by **HMKGrey** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:47 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>So the big one arrives, the shampoo terror attack, and its been buiding for months, and tony blair - who lets face it is on the ropes a bit - is in barbados,<hr></blockquote> Yeah, must have really been a sweat job for everyone this one. Real live threat to all those planes and travellers. Don't anyone wake the Fuhrer though. As for Reid. Yeah, he must be the muscle guy. At this rate, the blogs are going to have ripped this one to shreds by the weekend. Which leads me to one note of caution: If you were Cheney and you really wanted to fuck the blogs. You'd throw them a big old carrot like today; let them get their teeth stuck right in to it, because it's not hard and that's what they do and then just as the bloggers were pouring scorn and decrying the hyperbole and the D-Notices you'd make something big happen. Because that would wipe the smug grin off our faces wouldn't it? And all those water cooler conversations and e-mails and all the minds we were opening would not only come to nought - but those minds would spring shut like traps and we'd be so dicredited and villified that we might never recover. Worth a thought?

by **Trifecta** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:58 am

(AP) Three Egyptian students sought along with eight others who failed to show up for an exchange program in Montana were taken into custody on Wednesday, authorities said. Eslam Ibrahim Mohamed El-Dessouki, 21, was taken into custody in Minnesota on what was termed an administrative immigration violation as an out-of-status student, according to the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. Two other students, whose names were not yet released, turned themselves into authorities in New Jersey. "The FBI remains extremely interested in interviewing," the other missing Egyptian students, said Paul McCabe, a spokesman for the FBI in Minneapolis. The missing students pose no terrorism threat, the agency said. Authorities began searching for the 11 Egyptian students after they arrived in the United States last month, but failed to show up for an exchange program at Montana State University. The Egyptian men were among a group of 17 students who arrived in New York from Cairo on July 29 with valid visas, according to U.S. authorities and university officials. The other six arrived as planned at the Montana school. Montana State repeatedly tried to contact the missing students, including via e-mail, a school official said earlier this week. When that failed, the school notified Homeland Security officials and registered the Egyptians as "no-shows" in the system developed after the Sept. 11 attacks to track foreign students. The students were participating in an exchange program with Mansoura University in Mansoura, Egypt. Norm Peterson, vice provost for international education at Montana State, said he doubts the school will have any future contact with the missing students. "I guess I'm not optimistic that we are ever going to hear from them," he said Wednesday. "It's more likely that they will hopefully depart from the country as soon as possible voluntarily — or the federal authorities will continue to track them down and deal with them appropriately." The six students who did arrive for the month-long program of English instruction and U.S. history and culture "are doing fine under the circumstances," Peterson said. "But it is really a challenging situation for them to suddenly have so much press attention" for simply being the ones who showed up, he said. The U.S. government tightened the student visa process after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. One of the hijackers involved in the attacks had arrived in the United States on a student visa, and immigration officials approved student visas for two other hijackers after they entered the country. A fourth attended flight training school without a student visa.

by **pugzleyca3** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:58 am

"Has anybody credible claimed that those missing Egyptian students have anything to do with this event?" I saw a news report where some of them had been picked up, some still missing. But the newscaster made a point of saying they were not considered connected to this event. But of course, until the PTB decide who they are going to pin this one on...

by **Et in Arcadia ego** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:16 am

re: the Egyptian students, all I know is I saw an article discussing Chertoff's anger that their absence was blown out of proportion by the media and his oen department(sorry, no link handy). Maybe a real plot was subverted due to unsolicited attention. ____________________ Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.

by **Trifecta** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:20 am

"In January of 2003 FBI and CIA whistleblowers told Capitol Hill Blue that the White House was scripting phony terror alerts to maintain hysteria, upkeep President Bush’s approval ratings and milk extra defense funding. The report that five Pakistani men had entered the States via Canada and were planning on carrying out a dirty bomb or biological attack was completely conjured up by the Bush administration’s black propaganda office. New York Harbor was shut down to visibly pump up the fear. One of the named suspects, Mohammed Asghar (pictured left), was tracked down to Pakistan by the Associated Press. He was a fat guy running a jewellers shop and had never even been to America." <a href="http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/august2006/100806redalert.htm">www.propagandamatrix.com/...dalert.htm</a>

by **Et in Arcadia ego** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:23 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Worth a thought?<hr></blockquote> Absolutely. Exploiting unwanted awareness as a tool to instigate guilt would be a brilliant maneuver..Depending how much paranoia you enjoy with your tea or soffee, maybe the dissident's mindset is coaxed for the purpose of providing antagonists to their 'war on terror' with so much shame at the dawn of a new attack a significant portion of the awakened would be shocked into submission.. That's a nasty Gedanken. ____________________ Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.

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