police state begins to take physical form...

by **5E6A** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:55 pm

The coming police state begins to take physical form. Preemptive abroad, preemptive domestically. All aboard the disappearing express for any who are not with 'us'. This is from a lengthy article on <a href="http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Sept06/Santos17.htm">Dissident Voice</a>. You'll need to scroll dow to get to this part: The Web and the New "Enemy Within" As part of its drive toward a fascistic state, the regime has found a new "Enemy Within" -- and it’s not just the Muslim Americans targeted for arrest, the Mexicans targeted for round ups and deportations, or the Blacks, Native Americans and "gang members" targeted for prison. It’s what they now call the "homegrown terrorist" -- apparently a most dangerous kind of terrorist, according to The Los Angeles Times; one almost impossible to track; one with no formal ties to known "networks"; one with no particular religion; a self-radicalizing "terrorist" whose "terrorist breeding ground" is the Internet and whose piper is not just "Osama Bin Laden," but the radical writer, the blogger, and the so-called "conspiracy theorist." The BBC, in the opening line of a piece entitled US plans to 'fight the net', states it plainly: "Bloggers Beware." The LA Times reports -- with a straight face -- "US officials said the enemy from within was posing a new challenge and a new danger." The self-radicalized new "threat" doesn’t fit previous "profiles," and the Feds are working overtime to build a new profile for these misfits. The Times says that according to one "terrorism expert" it’s "very difficult to find someone like that, someone not from the Middle East, not converted to any religion." Attorney General Alberto Gonzales made it clear; the new target is those who "are radicalized over the Internet." Citing the "threat" of "home grown terrorists" FBI director Robert Mueller said the FBI is focused on understanding the "radicalization" process. L.A. police chief William Bratton plans to build a new national anti-terrorism training academy for cops to reinforce the idea of "getting the bastards before they get us." The Attorney General backed Bratton, framing it this way, "We know local police departments are in the best position to identify home grown radicals, so our network will be led by them." In other words, if you’re reading this essay -- or writing essays like this one -- you’re a potential target; you may be engaged in a process of self-radicalization. If so, the FBI wants to "understand" you. They want to know what makes the thought criminal tick. Make no mistake; thought crime, much of it bred by the relatively free flow of information on the Net, is costing the neo-fascists dearly and creating a hell of a "breeding ground" for "home grown terrorists" -- which is to say it is helping to create a social base for mass resistance to the emergence of home grown fascism and imperial war. A recent Zogby poll shows that 52% of Americans now question the "official story" of the 9/11 attacks, even as an overwhelming majority oppose the military occupation and colonization of Iraq. This free flow of information is what the Bush regime calls "Subcultures of conspiracy and misinformation."

by **sunny** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:05 pm

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by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:11 pm

The 9/11 truth movement has TPTB freaking out and resorting to the usual black bag of psy-op tricks, CHILLING DISSENT. Anything to slow the inevitable awareness of The Thermate Inside Job to prevent "the 60s" from returning. (*fooosh* - blowing off the dust from the REX84 manual )

by **4911** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:39 pm

Theyll make the world free even if it means imprisoning every last person in it.

by **postrchild** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:55 pm

Where oh where is Shrubbageddon? He would feel vindicated at this point I think. He has been saying, along with a few of us others here, that they are watching us right now! Have been for some time now according to "Herr Boosh". If you dont think they will actually carry out some of this Darth Vader Death Camp shit, you are sadly mistaken. Pretty soon we will have CIA/FBI created "homegrown terror cells" commiting bombings and killing on a large scale, and blaming it on U.S. citizens, giving the PRETEXT to give us martial law....why bother with another 911 when they can just hit a couple NFL games or expld some buses and "voila".....Police State. Just add catalyst/pretext. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Its a simple matter of Problem=Reaction=Solution.... Alex Jones 1999<hr></blockquote>

by **OnoI812** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:22 pm

"US officials said the enemy from within was posing a new challenge and a new danger." Don't you just love how the Times refer to them as "Officials" Not servants, not employees, not gangsters, not fascist pikers. go figure, it's enough to think things aren't as they seem. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat">

by * » Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:59 pm

<a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Page/document/v4/sub/MarketingPage?user_URL=http://www.theglobeandmail.com%2Fservlet%2Fstory%2FRTGAM.20060913.wxborder13%2FCommentStory%2FInternational%2Fhome&ord=1158775026185&brand=theglobeandmail&force_login=true">Use 12,000 troops to guard Canadian border, U.S. urged</a> <a href="http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:Y1qwUxe1IAkJ:capmel.com/BoatingIllegal.htm+federal+judge+declares+boating+illegal&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a">US Federal Judge Declares Boating Illegal in All US Navigable Waters</a> <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/03/15/coastguard-060315.html">U.S. puts machine-guns on Great Lakes coast guard vessels</a> squeezing the citizenry the while plotting the “Anschluss”: <a href="http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1158702613986&call_pageid=968256290204&col=968350116795">Public kept in dark as business leads talks about North American integration</a> "While the media were busy obsessing over rumours of a budding romance between Condoleezza Rice and Peter MacKay last week, a more significant relationship was developing behind closed doors. Away from the spotlight, from Sept. 12 to 14, in Banff Springs, Minister of Public Safety Stockwell Day and Defence Minister Gordon O'Connor met with U.S. and Mexican government officials and business leaders to discuss North American integration at the second North American Forum. According to leaked documents, the guest list included such prominent figures as U.S. Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Mexican Secretary of Public Security Eduardo Medina Mora and Canadian Forces chief General Rick Hillier, although we have no final confirmation of attendees. The event was chaired by former U.S. secretary of state George Schultz, former Alberta premier, Peter Lougheed and former Mexican finance minister Pedro Aspe. Despite the involvement of senior North American politicians, organizers did not alert the media about the event. To make it worse, our government will not be issuing a public statement and refuses to release any information about the content of the discussions or the actors involved. Day's office has been telling journalists that it cannot comment on the minister's private meeting and that journalists should understand this. So much for accountability. The event was organized by the Canadian Council of Chief Executives — the elite club of Canada's richest CEOs — and the Canada West Foundation, an Alberta think-tank that promotes, among other things, closer economic integration with the United States. The focus of the event was on North American security and prosperity. Not surprisingly, this included topics such as "A North American Energy Strategy," "Demographic and Social Dimensions of North American Integration" and "Opportunities for Security Co-operation" — all topics where the public interest is at odds with that of big business elites. Unfortunately meetings like this are now commonplace. Since Paul Martin, Vicente Fox and George W. Bush signed the Security and Prosperity Partnership in March 2005, discussions on continental integration have gone underground. The media have paid little attention to this far-reaching agreement, so Canadians are unaware that a dozen working groups are currently "harmonizing" Canadian and U.S. regulations on everything from food to drugs to the environment and even more contentious issues like foreign policy. Make no mistake, this process of harmonization is not about improving food, environmental and other norms; it is about priming North America for better business by weakening the impacts of such perceived obstacles as environmental standards and labour rights. This is why the public has been kept in the dark while the business elite has played a leading role in designing the blueprint for this more integrated North America. In fact, they have been the driving force. In June this year, their power was formalized when our governments created the North American Competitiveness Council (NACC), an advisory committee comprised of representatives from the largest corporations in North America including Wal-Mart, Chevron, General Motors, Lockheed Martin, Suncor and others. Their goal is to make North America more competitive globally, which means weakening our government's ability to regulate industry, protect the environment or our social safety net. Lockheed Martin's Ron Covais's statement to Maclean's magazine earlier this month about the role of the NACC was quite revealing: "The guidance from the ministers was, tell us what we need to do and we'll make it happen." Sadly, we the public are not informed of what big businesses are telling our ministers to do. The NACC met in Washington on Aug. 15 to discuss its priorities, but we have very little information about what was said as it was not reported anywhere in the press. For Canadians, developments on energy will be crucial. The U.S. administration, anxious to keep up with its country's high energy demands, has shown great interest in this "secure" energy source located just north of its border. With corporations like Suncor involved, energy was an important item of discussion at the Banff meeting last week. Given the detrimental impacts of oil sand extraction on our environment and given that Canada currently exports 66 per cent of its oil (primarily to the U.S.) while importing 55 per cent of what we use domestically from countries like Algeria, Venezuela and Norway, it is alarming that Ottawa would discuss a "North American Energy Strategy" with the U.S. and Mexico before establishing a Canadian strategy that would ensure our ability to protect the environment and ensure a secure energy supply for Canadians. Though not as glamourous as the date between Peter and Condi, the media should pay better attention to this marriage between our governments and big corporations. The Conservatives came to power on the promise to make government more accountable. They need to be reminded that our government should be accountable to the people of Canada — not just its business elite." Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=1tal>1 tal</A> at: 9/21/06 12:03 am

by **AlanStrangis** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:25 pm

Like the British woman in Terrorstom said... "I'm willing to sacrifice freedom for liberty!" <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D">

by **bvonahsen** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:59 pm

It is a simple rule of the universe that if you push in on one end, it bulges out on the other. The more you react negatively to violent acts like terrorism the more you create the conditions for it to flourish. The more repressive you make a society the more you breed those individuals who you are reacting to in the first place. Right-wingers are called reactionary for this very reason. They are like the paranoid psych patient who's thought distortions create the very hallucinations he reacts against. I learned this lesson when I was young. I was having a lot of headaches and I noticed that the more I reacted against physical pain the worse it was. Eventually I learned to "look" at the pain inwardly, to face it and do my best to accept it. I don't have those headaches any more and the thankfully few times in my life I've experienced great pain the notion that the best way to cope is not to turn away inside but to face it. It works, it works on many levels. I happen to think it applies to the larger society also.

by **Iroquois** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:47 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Boeing wins contract to protect US borders Deutsche Presse Agentur Published: Wednesday September 20, 2006 Los Angeles- Defence and aerospace giant Boeing Co won a contract to secure US borders with Mexico and Canada with a plan to construct 1,800 watchtowers bristling with high tech sensors, according to media reports Wednesday. The 2-billion-dollar contract is the cornerstone of the Secure Border Initiative known as SBInet, which is designed to give US authorities greater control of the country's 9,600 kilometres of borders to the north and south. Lawmakers have said the initiative is a critical national security issue, designed to shore up porous borderlines over which malevolent would-be terrorists could smuggle almost anything they wanted with little risk of getting caught. But the hi-tech defence array would also clamp down on the largely unrestricted flow of undocumented immigrants from Mexico into the US - a huge political problem that is one of the central issues in the critical mid-term congressional elections set for November. The contract was considered one of the most important for defence- related companies because spending by the Department of Homeland Security is increasing much faster than that of the Pentagon. Boeing reportedly won the contract over an array of rivals because it promised that its chains of towers would work better than competitors' plans to police the border using unmanned drones or blimps. Boeing touted its plan as being more ready for immediate implementation than those of rivals Lockheed Martin Corp, Northrop Grumman Corp, Raytheon Co and Ericsson. The first stage of the new security measures will be introduced in a border area in the southwestern state of Arizona, and is designed to clamp down on one of the most heavily used crossing points for illegal immigrants. Projected to cost some 80 million dollars, the pilot scheme will install a combination of sensors, cameras, fences, vehicle barricades and small unmanned aerial vehicles in the desert south of Tucson, Arizona. Under the Boeing plan, towers would be built along the border with radar systems to watch for movement, as well as cameras that could zoom in on movements to determine whether the sighting was a vehicle, animals or people. Ground sensors to detect movement, sound or simply contact would also be installed, particularly where tree coverage would make radar and cameras less effective, Wayne Esser, who led the Boeing bid, told The New York Times. Critics point out however that Homeland Security has a history of failed initiatives that did not work as planned and far exceeded the initial budgets. "The administration has spent 429 million of the taxpayer's money to try and secure our borders with two already-abandoned border security programs," Democratic Representative Bennie Thompson told The Washington Post. He expressed concern that the same thing will happen to SBInet. © 2006 DPA - Deutsche Presse-Agenteur<hr></blockquote>Source: <a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2006/Boeing_wins_contract_to_protect_US__09202006.html">rawstory.com/news/2006/Bo...02006.html</a>

by **Gouda** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:51 am

All along the watchtower, princes kept the view While all the women came and went, barefoot servants, too. Outside in the distance a wildcat did growl Two riders were approaching, the wind began to howl. I like the information about the watchtowers and 1 tal's information on the business-led "north american integration". <blockquote>Quote:<hr> The event was organized by the Canadian Council of Chief Executives, the elite club of Canada's richest CEOs and the Canada West Foundation, an Alberta think-tank that promotes, among other things, closer economic integration with the United States. The focus of the event was on North American security and prosperity. Not surprisingly, this included topics such as "A North American Energy Strategy," "Demographic and Social Dimensions of North American Integration" and "Opportunities for Security Co-operation" all topics where the public interest is at odds with that of big business elites... Make no mistake, this process of harmonization is not about improving food, environmental and other norms; it is about priming North America for better business by weakening the impacts of such perceived obstacles as environmental standards and labour rights. This is why the public has been kept in the dark while the business elite has played a leading role in designing the blueprint for this more integrated North America. In fact, they have been the driving force...<hr></blockquote> Those proverbial (and real) watchtowers will serve a dual purpose: to see that people are kept locked-down, dehumanized and illegal while it is also seen to that more-legal-than-other-people, people (corporations), pedophiles, and markets enjoy total movement, freedom and capital anarchy. This stuff just fuels my precognoscing a dreaded "One World Capital Order" under the control of an elite club of the world's richest sociopaths, CEOs and dehumanized technocrats. A privatized police state will be the membrane to separate people from each other, from their wealth (natural, labor, creative), and from their dignity. HMW: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>The 9/11 truth movement has TPTB freaking out and resorting to the usual black bag of psy-op tricks, CHILLING DISSENT.<hr></blockquote> This might be a topic of debate for a new thread. Not about their fear of thermate exposure, which I highly doubt, but their fear of "revolutionary" dissent, localized-but-networked resistance movements, etc. Are they on edge, afraid, or: are they really just laughing their asses off at us as they build their cages, long in the planning. From a jane's addiction line: "We'll make great pets..." OK, not that it matters if they frightened or enjoying the show - regardless of their own state of mind, we should just continue speaking out, organizing, doing the right thing...Or does their state of mind actually matter? Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=gouda@rigorousintuition>Gouda</A> at: 9/21/06 7:35 am

by **AlicetheCurious** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:47 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>It’s what they now call the "homegrown terrorist" -- apparently a most dangerous kind of terrorist, according to The Los Angeles Times; one almost impossible to track; one with no formal ties to known "networks"; one with no particular religion; a self-radicalizing "terrorist" whose "terrorist breeding ground" is the Internet and whose piper is not just "Osama Bin Laden," but the radical writer, the blogger, and the so-called "conspiracy theorist."<hr></blockquote> In other words, "thoughtcrime" is the new "terrorism". With media increasingly in the hands of a shrinking number of corporate global giants, the space for free communication of information and ideas is being dramatically eroded. Now freedom on the net is being threatened. What can people do when only the corporate elites have a voice?

by **blanc** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:04 am

the net stays alive because of commercial interest, because of advertising and sales. what people can do if blogging is threatened is to abandon the market place. (and chuck out the tv, leave the papers on the 'news' stand.)

by **sunny** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:14 am

blanc, you said it. Buy only what you need, and only make purchases at the few remaining mom n' pop stores. Sure, they are more expensive, but if you are only buying necessities, you will still save money. Farmers markets and co-ops are a good option anytime. Like you said, boycott ALL media. During the '60's, activists made full use of underground newspapers. Also, if people under Soviet rule could crank out and distribute pamplets and newspapers, so can we. The French Resistance did as well. Chucking the tv is a good idea regardless. Frankly, I think a general boycott should have begun in 2000, but that's just me.

by **Gouda** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:25 am

Is alex jones calling for a general strike or a massive boycott? (Sorry, was just thinking of him with his megaphone barking harmless vague generalities about "standing up to the NWO" and "bringing Them to justice.") Yes, get yourself out of the big markets, banks, conglomerates and chains and let them know why. Let your congresspersons know too. There are so many ways to cut costs and save money and use it to support the slightly more expensive, but struggling, mom-and-pop shops, co-ops and hip hops. Shall we start a thread on the history of underground and alternative communication, media etc.? I would like to learn more about that. And taking into consideration our present technological capabilities, how can the old methods be adapted for this age? The revolution(s) will not be....

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