by Dreams End » Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:09 pm
Well, my point was that our discussions about US either being controlled by Israel or else US being onesided in support of Israel fail to take into account the long history of support and alliances with fundamentalist Islamic movements. I actually don't believe it's a matter of a guy in a suit in Langley manipulating all of them directly, but they were promoted (not just in Afghanistan) for purposes of destabilization and containment of "problem" countries. <br><br>The history is just WAY too clear. There are plenty of Muslims who are both faithful and part of the militant movements out of genuine outrage over Western/Israeli actions. But you know what, there are a lot of genuine progressives trying to work in the Democratic party or being misled down to controlled opposition groups like ANSWER. The whole game is to try to LIMIT OPPOSITION INTO ACCEPTABLE FORMATS. That's why there was support for many of the Islamic groups in the first place, due to their anti-communist perspective. Now, it's complicated as USSR dropped support of Israel and started backing some of these movements as well. I don't claim to have all the details worked out by a longshot.<br><br>But our fine leaders make no decisions...none...zero, based on some moral code. It's all very very practical and realpolitik. They'll back Israel or drop Israel as needed. Look at Iraq. Our CIA brought Saddam to power, then the US turned on him for a new tactical phase. During the years the US supported Iraq, did anyone argue that we were "controlled" by Iraq? In fact, was Iraq a friend of Israel? Why is it that people will argue we invaded Iraq for Israel's sake without explaining the motivation, then, of supporting Saddam in the first place. How did providing Saddam chemical weapons....and we know he had them as surely the US kept the receipts....make Israel safer? <br><br>It's craziness. We need to continue to see the WHOLE picture, the entire network of US supported regimes and revolutionary movements. <br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>