Murder By Remote-Control?

by **greencrow0** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:41 am

from thetruthseeker.co.uk Murder By Remote-Control? News Brief – October 9, 2006 Probe International conference held at Blackpool this past weekend saw more drama than expected when inventor and intelligence insider Dean Warwick collapsed whilst addressing a packed auditorium. Originally from New Zealand but now resident in Scotland, Dean had promised to make some momentous announcements at the conference. In the weeks prior to speaking at Probe International’s conference, Dean had given Dave Starbuck a foretaste of what was coming in an interview. Among other things, Dean promised that he would name who was behind the murder of Bobby Kennedy. However, he said, that would only be the beginning. For he told Dave Starbuck that he would also name the “Anti-Christ” and blow the whistle on underground bases and missing children. In the taped interview with Dave Starbuck, he also revealed how and why seven survivors at Lockerbie were allowed to die from hypothermia. The reason, he said, was that the survivors knew that a terrorist bombing did not bring down Pam Am Flight 103, which went down in 1988 killing 270 passengers and crew. They were allowed to die, said Dean, because they knew that a missile or beam weapon brought down the Jumbo jet and had they lived, would have been able to testify to this. Such knowledge however, made Dean Warwick a very dangerous man to those with things to hide. Which is why questions are being asked about his sudden demise. According to Dave Starbuck who was at the Probe International conference when he spoke, Dean was starting to hit his stride. He got to the point when he said he was about to reveal who was behind Bobby Kennedy’s murder, the name of the “Anti-Christ” and more besides. But before he did, Dean sat down as if composing his thoughts prior to speaking again. He never did though. Instead, he keeled over and fell from the stage and despite efforts to revive him, was pronounced dead shortly thereafter. Although a post mortem has yet to be conducted, the circumstances surrounding Dean’s death are highly suspicious. All the more so as those who witnessed the event and tried to telephone this website were unable to do so. Although we took no calls this weekend, our phone line was reportedly “permanently engaged”. Making it seem all the more likely that Dean was "taken out", possibly by a beam weapon, by a group with a vested interest in keeping the lid on what is really going on.

by **greencrow0** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:42 am

<a href="http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=5290">www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/...sp?ID=5290</a> Doesn't Jeff have a separate thread for 'suspicious deaths'? I think this one should be added. gc

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:34 am

the truthseeker.co.uk is a very iffy website with Jew-hating articles hidden behind the more 'mainstream' parapolitical ones. I found out the hard way once when I posted an article from there and got excoriated for spreading hate. I had no idea why someone would say that. Until I looked at more pages at that website and started finding the anti-Jewish ones in back pages. I don't know if this is meant as a discrediting ploy or if the website really is rather nasty. I just don't know. Anyway, the revelations alleged to the alleged victim are totally disinfo. The CIA are behind all those other topics mentioned as about to be answered. Just like the murder of RFK. What a surprise. Thane Eugene Cesar killed RFK, MK-ULTRA hypnotist William Joseph Bryan programmed Sirhan Sirhan to be there as the patsy, the LAPD helped cover it up. The reason the RFK murder is the centerpiece is probably because of a movie about the RFK murder about to come out. I think Emilio Estevez is behind it and Anthony Hopkins is in it. Hopkins was in 'Nixon' so it is sure to get some press. So some pre-emptive internet confusion is being thrown out. That's my take on this bit and I feel extremely certain about it. <a href="http://movies.about.com/od/woodelijah/a/bobby100505.htm?iam=momma_100_SKD&terms=new+movie+about+Bobby+Kennedy">movies.about.com/od/woode...by+Kennedy</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>More Join the Cast of "Bobby" Emilio Estevez's Robert F Kennedy Assassination Project Oct 5, 2005 - Elijah Wood, Nick Cannon, Sharon Stone, and Freddy Rodriguez will be joining Demi Moore and Sir Anthony Hopkins for "Bobby," Emilio Estevez's film about the day Robert F Kennedy was assassinated. Describing the film, Elijah Wood said, "It's about the day that Bobby Kennedy was shot at The Ambassador Hotel. So it's sort of about a cross section of all these different people's lives, different stories of days in the life of different people at The Ambassador. It ends with that tragedy to give insight into that experience, but also what people were going through at that time in our history, at the hotel itself. It's really an ambitious script and pretty incredible.” Estevez wrote the script and will direct and play a role in the film. According to The Hollywood Reporter, Sharon Stone will play the hotel manager's wife and Wood will play a guy getting married in order to change his draft classification. Rodriguez will co-star as a hotel bellboy with Cannon taking on the role of a Youth for Kennedy volunteer. Commenting on his passion for this particular subject, Estevez told The Hollywood Reporter, "I met Bobby when he was running for the Senate in 1967, and he was campaigning down the street from where we lived in New York. My father was doing some work on his campaign and took me down to this police precinct where they were campaigning. I was on his shoulders, and Bobby leaned out and shook my hands." That moment made a lasting impression on Estevez and now after working on getting the film made for the last five years, casting is heating up and filming is expected to begin later this month or in early November 2005. SOURCE: The Hollywood Reporter "Bobby" Movie Resources Anthony Hopkins Signs on to "Bobby"Elijah Wood Discusses "Bobby""Bobby" Photos, Credits, and News Bobby Movie - Weinstein Company Acquires Emilio Estevez... Bobby Movie - Anthony Hopkins Stars in Bobby Film Bobby Movie Cast - Lindsay Lohan, Shia LaBeouf Join Bob... Simpatico - Now Playing - Independent/World Film Simpatico - Now Playing - Independent/World Film <hr></blockquote> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 10/10/06 1:36 am

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:15 am

Here's some more evidence of a newly revved up disinfo campaign around the CIA murder of RFK. Lisa Pease is an investigative journalist who has done some of the best writing about RFK's murder. In this article she responds to some recently revived disinfo attempting to tie Aristotle Onassis with the crime. Oh, look. This is from early 2005. Wonder if someone got wind of Emilio Estevez's upcoming movie and got the disinfo ball rolling. <a href="http://robertfkennedy.net/manchuriancandidate.htm#nemesis">robertfkennedy.net/manchu...tm#nemesis</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Is "Nemesis" A Black Book? Since this article was forwarded to me as “new evidence in the RFK assassination,” I feel compelled to speak. by Lisa Pease, January 18, 2005 I beg forgiveness in advance. I would love to lay out the evidence in scholarly detail to support all I want to say in great detail, and might yet at some future date. But frankly, the ridiculously absurd, ill-supported theory in Peter Evans’ book Nemesis doesn’t deserve it. I had only to hear the premise to know something was amiss. Onassis had ordered Bobby Kennedy killed? I burst out laughing the first time this was proposed to me, several years ago, by a lawyer in Indiana who claimed “secret knowledge” that Onassis was behind RFK’s assassination. (His scenario, however, was very different from the one put forth in Evans’ book.) When I laughed at this, he got angry and actually threatened me, saying “the Mob will get you” — words to that effect. You heard me right. The Mob. So why would “the Mob” want to “get me” if I didn’t believe some wildass story about Onassis having killed RFK? I never believed for a second that the people who would “get” me, if anyone, would be from the Mob. But I did believe I was witnessing the birth of a new disinformation campaign, and mentioned it to a few people at the time. Someone was trying to pin the RFK case on Ari Onassis. Now I know who that “someone” is. You see, the funny thing about this is that the attack laid out in Nemesis, that Onassis ordered the killing of Bobby Kennedy, parallels an earlier CIA disinformation campaign against Onassis. In 1954, the CIA hired Robert Maheu, whom it would later hire to design Castro assassination plots, to perform a character assassination plot against Ari Onassis. Why? Because Onassis controlled the shipping of Arabian oil, an extremely lucrative market. The CIA was upset because both money and valuable intelligence were being lost to Onassis. According to the CIA’s Inspector General Report on Plots to Assassinate Castro: “In the 1954-55 time period Maheu was hired by the Greek shipping magnate, Niarchos, to help in a financial tussle Niarchos was having with another Greek shipping figure, Onassis, who had managed to negotiate a pact with King Saud under which Onassis would control 90% of all Saudi Arabian oil shipments. British, American, and German shipping interests opposed Onassis' near monopoly, and the US and UK governments supported Niarchos in his fight to have the agreement canceled. Maheu is believed to have worked at top levels in both the British and American governments, reportedly meeting at least once with Vice President Nixon. Maheu's operations were financed by Niarchos, but CIA became involved in supporting them by request of the Department of State. Agency communications and pouch facilities were made available to Maheu, and he was given help in developing a black propaganda campaign against Onassis. Niarchos, with Maheu's help, won his scrap with Onassis.” Would it surprise you to learn, then, that this same Robert Maheu was a chief source for author Peter Evans? Would it surprise you to learn that Evans’ other sources included CIA mastermind and Dulles/Helms/Angleton confidante Miles Copeland, as well as the CIA’s best man in Greece, Alfred Ulmer? Evans thanks these three for giving him the introductions and leads to the others in the story. So what is Evans’ evidence that Onassis ordered Bobby killed? Granted, I’m skimming - but as best I can make it out, a woman said Ari told her he paid to have Bobby killed. THAT’S IT! I’m not kidding!! And 1) we have no way to know if the woman is telling the truth, and 2) even if she has been honest, we have no way of knowing whether she might have misinterpreted what Onassis said. Maybe he made the comment as a joke. We don’t have enough context to accurately assess the seriousness of this comment, if it was even made. In addition, Evans tries to link Ari to an Arab terrorist who once made a comment about killing an American official. Evans takes the words of a couple of people and strings together incidents that could have had any number of other explanations and that’s his evidence. He makes a big deal of the fact that this terrorist visited William Bryan, the doctor who probably hypnotized Sirhan. But that’s his evidence - the comment and the visit - that this man was directly involved in the assassination plot. Again, I’m not kidding! Most of his introductions for the sources in the book came, according to Evans’ own acknowledgements, from either proven CIA sources (Maheu, Copeland, and Ulmer) or likely CIA sources such as his much-touted Yannis Georgakis, the prominent Greek man who was the actual instigator for this book. See, Evans had already written a biography of Ari Onassis. Guess what? None of this stuff came up! It took Georgakis to instill curiosity by promising “the rest of the story.” Georgakis was a stellar student in Greece during the years prior to WWII - admitted to law school at the age of 15 and graduating at the age of 20. He studied in Germany where he obtained a doctorate in criminal law, and then returned to Greece at the start of WWII. The CIA was heavily ensconced in Greek politics by the end of WWII as Greece was seen as one of the holdouts keeping the Iron Curtain at bay. It’s not stretching to imagine that such a talented, high-profile individual would be a top recruitment target for the Agency. Evans’ book simply lays out a theory, and an ill-documented, ill-supported one at that. So just for fun, let’s compare that to my theory. I propose that the CIA killed Bobby. I propose that they did this because he was pursuing their involvement in the killing of his brother. I propose they knew they would be toast if Bobby ascended to the office of the President. I believe they used Maheu to do this. I believe that Maheu, concerned perhaps by the growing interest in the RFK assassination, has been looking for an alternate patsy and pulled out his old playbook the CIA gave him and ran it one last time against his archnemesis Onassis. And let’s look at my evidence. Maheu had been the CIA’s point man planning the Castro assassination plots. Maheu was directly implicated by Hoover, if John Meier, who talked to Hoover personally, is to be believed. Hoover told Meier, so Meier told me, that “We know this [the Robert Kennedy assassination] was a Maheu operation. But I’m powerless against the CIA” - a comment made believable by the fact that James Angleton had a photo of Hoover with his gay lover Clyde Tolson in a compromising position, and Angleton had provably used that photo to force Hoover’s hand in the case of that other Kennedy assassination, that of President John Kennedy. (See my Angleton articles in The Assassinations for that story.) After the assassination of RFK, Maheu, for Howard Hughes, hired the cream of the crop of the Kennedy operatives so they would be on his payroll. That’s a nice thing to do - give a job to the folks who might otherwise be interested in finding out what your involvement might have been. It’s always hard to bite the hand that feeds, as any mainstream journalist knows. Maheu had strong ties to the LAPD, the agency most responsible for the cover-up of the facts proving conspiracy in the assassination of RFK. Maheu had even helped produce a porno film with members of the LAPD to discredit the CIA target and Indonesian leader Sukarno. Johnny Roselli, Maheu’s close associate, the man who trained Maheu’s would-be assassins for the Castro plots, was involved in a scandal that compromised Grant Cooper, the lawyer who would soon represent Sirhan Sirhan. Cooper was facing losing his license to practice law because some Grand Jury transcripts, stolen by Roselli, ended up on his desk in court. (Cooper was representing an associate of Roselli’s when both were on trial in the Friar’s Club card cheating scandal). Cooper miraculously, amid his own troubles, volunteers to help Sirhan, and equally miraculously, his charges are reduced, payable by a small fine. I believe Maheu had Roselli compromise Cooper so that Sirhan’s case would never be more than a show trial. It worked. When the LAPD admittedly could not prove the bullets they had in evidence actually came from Sirhan’s gun, Cooper told the Judge in chambers, that’s okay - I’ll stipulate to wherever the cops say the bullets came from. I believe Cooper did this to protect some deal he had made re the sinking of Sirhan’s defense. I mean, what lawyer has his client read from his notebook, “RFK must die, RFK must die” as Cooper had Sirhan do on the stand? Not a lawyer who was trying to help his client. At least, that’s my theory. See, the thing with my theory is, it’s based primarily on a well-documented record. Not simple assertions by players you’ve never met. Not by statements from spooks told in whispers in dark restaurants. Actual documents. LAPD investigative files. Court records. Stuff like that. Now you can take your pick. Or make up a theory of your own! Heck, anyone can play this game. But given a choice, I’d rather follow a trail of documentable evidence, rather than a trail laid out by people who lie for a living. Maybe that’s just me. But I hope not. I hope that’s you, too. Source: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/5l7ox">tinyurl.com/5l7ox</a><hr></blockquote>

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