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Postby stamp57 » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:11 am

Military Intelligence and CIA agents who destroyed UFO community now backing theories that no 757 could have hit the Pentagon <br>Odd combination: update on 9/11 "research" and Steven Greer's book <br>October 9, 2006<br><br>A few months ago I did a review on Steven Greer's book Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge and identified most of the names Greer had changed. In this update three others will be identified, including the "descendant of James Jesus Angleton". Also, at about the time the first review on Hidden Truth was written, "General T.E." and the alleged "slippery shadowy-op psychiatrist" turned up at a very interesting place. <br><br>Name in book Real name (as thought by PEHI) How sure <br>General T.E. [p. 82-85, 99] Gen. Albert Stubblebine Near 100% <br>Col. MK [p. 82, 133] Col. John Alexander Near 100% <br>W.B. [p. 88, 116] Robert Bigelow Near 100% <br>"slippery shadowy-op psychiatrist" [p. 82-83] Rima Laibow About 55% <br>C.B. Scott Jones [p. 99] C.B. Scott Jones 100% <br>Lawrance Rockefeller [p. 98, 101-102] Lawrance Rockefeller 100% <br>"Woman in Red" [p. 98] Marie Galbraith Near 100% <br>"Bruce"[p. 98] Evan Galbraith Near 100% <br>Mr. X [p. 99-10<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> Dr. John Mack About 65% <br>Prince S.A. [p. 128-13<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> Hans Adam von Liechtenstein Near 100% <br><br>The names that were identified on July 1. Although the Disclosure Project (probably as a formality) asked to remove these names, at least some people working with Greer do privately support it. <br>The week after the article on Greer's book was done, I came across the new conspiracy movie One Nation Under Siege. You can imagine my thoughts when I read the names Rima Laibow and general Albert Stubblebine. They are part of the military intelligence group that completely destroyed the UFO community in the 1980s and 1990s. Now Stubblebine seems to be out on doing the same with the 9/11 Truth community. Of all the good questions that can be asked about 9/11, Stubblebine, a former head of Military Intelligence, only decides to discuss the theory that the hole in the Pentagon is too small for a 757 to have crashed. I'm just watching it again, his testimony is absolutely hilarious. <br><br>The producer and director of One Nation Under Siege is William Lewis. In his film he only lets us hear a few general statements about 9/11 that in themselves mean nothing. Just before Stubblebine appears on the screen, Lewis talks about how a 757 could never have hit the Pentagon. Von Kleist, the pod person, backs him up on that, of course. Then after Stubblebine is done, Lewis has the nerve to claim there's also evidence that no United Airlines and American Airlines hit the World Trade Center. He repeats the completely discredited claim of Mark Burnback and even says there were "numerous other eyewitness" who made similar statements. Of course, he doesn't let us hear these statements as they simply don't exist (besides one or two that have been completely taken out of context). Same with his assertion that there were many people who claimed a small plane hit the Pentagon. In reality there were only two and not one claimed to have seen a missile or a Global Hawk.<br><br>Now, I hardly claim authority on any issue, but I definitely claim some with the Pentagon crash. I still regard my article, which was first published in early 2005, as the most extensive in refuting all "evidence" that something else than a 757 might have hit the Pentagon. I sent the article to most of the prominent 9/11 researchers. Some agreed, usually from the start, but most said (if they even replied) they disagreed without ever refuting any of the points made. These researchers just ignore the article and keep blabbing their theories to their audience. Biggest wake up call I ever had. This doesn't mean we have to stop asking for the Pentagon videos, but building theories on non-existent evidence isn't exactly the smartest thing to do. <br><br>Back to One Nation again. Rima Laibow is the wife of general Albert Stubblebine. In his film Wilson forgets to mention her background of building the Alien Abduction movement. Here's a repeat of the biography that had been compiled earlier:<br><br>"[Laibow] organized several quite-exclusive TREAT conferences in the following years, which mainly focused on alien abductions and finding out the details through remote viewing. Col. John Alexander [Mentioned in Greer's book] was a program director of at least some of these conferences. Gen. Albert Stubblebine, Ed Dames, Dr. Stephan Schwartz, Jack Houck, Dr. Craig Jensen were some of the people speaking at these conferences. As usual, Ed Dames, a PSI-TECH board member told some amazingly creepy stories about hibernating aliens and their genetic experimentations. Interestingly, it has been reported that Laibow has claimed to be an abductee herself. Previously associated with Budd Hopkins. In the summer of 1991, C.B. Scott Jones [Mentioned in Greer's book; Naval Intelligence; vice president US Psychotronics Association; associate of Hans Adam von Liechtenstein, who was mentioned in Greer's book] and Laibow were planning a yachting excursion together with Col. John Alexander to investigate anomalies in the Bahamas. Laibow, Stubblebine, ufologist Victoria Lacas (wife of John Alexander), and Jones toured Europe and the Soviet Union, where they established a prodigious UFO/Psi network. Married Gen. Albert Stubblebine at some point. She is the architect, along with her husband, Gen. Stubblebine III, of AEGIS, of a comprehensive Homeland Security private initiative, to increase effectiveness and costs of the organization [don't know what it means, here] . On the board of Canadian Submarine Technologies, Inc. Doesn't agree at all with Steven Greer's and Helmut Lammer's theories of MILABs, or military-induced "alien" abductions. According to Lammer, she has misstated a lot of his work." <br><br>Update, Oct. 9: Just looked into AEGIS again, because I ran into a corporation with that name just recently while doing the bio of mr. black op, Evan Hineman. If that's a reference to the Aegis Research Corporation, "a leading provider of enterprise protection strategies and technical services to the federal national security community", then its one of the many black ops beltway bandits out there. It was taken over by ManTech and its National Security Solutions Group (NSSG) in 2002, temporarily headed by Hineman. Armitage, the associate of Ted Shackley in importing CIA drugs from the Golden Triangle, appeared on the board of ManTech in 2005. If Stubblebines' Aegis is not a reference to Aegis Research, then it's still worthwhile to note that Stubblebine and Laibow have also been accused of spreading disinformation on the Codex Alimentarius and the alternative health community, the issue Laibow is talking about in One Nation. <br><br>Seriously, what does a person like Laibow have to do in Lewis' video? And what does this say about Stubblebine's support for the no-757-at-Pentagon theory? He isn't the only one by the way. Earlier, I reported about former CIA pilot John Lear, who also claimed no 757 could have hit the Pentagon. He did this at Coast to Coast while talking about alien devices on the moon that capture the souls of humans when they die. Lear was part of the tiny club that completely trashed UFO research in the late 1980s and early 1990s. <br><br>There's another coincidence pertaining to One Nation that adds to the confusion. Check out Out There TV - Episode 223, a conspiracy program straight from the twilight zone. At some point Lewis says: "The psychotronic generators are probably there in the cell towers right now... I have interviewed a few people from the KGB who would say that they built them and sold them to the US." Not really the smartest way to promote your movie, most people would think. And why the KGB? It would be interesting to know for example what Stubblebine, the actor in Lewis' documentary, was involved with at the BDM Corporation (a long story). Or what Col. John Alexander, a friend of both Laibow and Stubblebine, was doing at Los Alamos with his psychotronic research department. Let's recap a bit who Col. Alexander is:<br><br>"Commanded Special Forces "A" Teams in Vietnam and Thailand 1966-1969. His teams are said to have been involved in Project Phoenix terror campaign. Supposedly received a Ph.D. in Thanatology, a study of the social and emotional aspects surrounding death... Both [Alexander and Stubblebine] have been interested in creating an elite soldier with very powerful paranormal abilities. Director of PSI-TECH, together with Major Ed Dames (who cranks out doom scenario after doom scenario these days), at the time Gen. Stubblebine was its chairman. Director of non-lethal weapons testing at Los Alamos in the 1980s. Organized and chaired five major conferences on non-lethal weapons. Task Force member of the CFR's 1995 Nonlethal Technologies Independent Task Force Report. JASON scientist Richard L. Garwin, and Richard "Prince of Darkness" Perle [a good friend of Brian Crozier, former head of Le Cercle] were two other members of the CFR's task force... Important scientist at NIDS, which was founded in 1995, and a close associate of its owner and president, the shadowy Las Vegas (Nevada) businessman Robert Bigelow [Mentioned in Greer's book]. Married Victoria Lacas (Alexander), [who] has been photographed having dinner with John's friend, Edward Teller... Great supporter of using advanced technologies to create a "safe" police state.... a lot more "<br><br>As you already read, colonel John Alexander was Stubblebine's close associate in the UFO community and was also a member of Military Intelligence. In the 1980s, Alexander was head of non-lethal weapons research testing at Los Alamos, doing unknown research on psychotronic weaponry. He liaised with the CFR and the US Global Strategy Council. The USGSC, which was loaded with right wing Moonie supporters from all branches of the intelligence community and the military, was primarily interested in two things: promoting the Star Wars program and developing non-lethal weapons. The Stars Wars program was later accused of being a bogus front operation to redirect funds to black programs, which largely had to do with the development of non-lethal weapons. Edward Teller, a good friend of Alexander, was among the early members of the USGSC and relentlessly promoted the Star Wars program. Bobby Ray Inman was another early member of the USGSC. We'll come across Teller and Inman again in a moment. <br><br>Believe it or not, General Stubblebine and Colonel Alexander should even be under investigation for possible involvement in 9/11. Jon Ronson investigated their First Earth Battalion project, in which they allegedly tried to create an invincible soldier with paranormal powers. Ronson contacted one of the people connected to this project who referred him to "the most First Earth Battalion guy" he knew, which turned out to be a martial arts instructor in Florida, Bert Rodriguez. Heller described Rodriguez as "Spiritual is the wrong word. He’s occultic. He’s like a walking embodiment of death. He can stop you at a distance. He can influence physical events just with his mind. If he catches your attention he can stop you without touching you." This might sound impossibe, but these stories can also be heard in Ninjutsu, for example. The thing is that even 10th or 11th dans, who as far as I remember only receive training in Japan by only one instructor, are struggling with attaining this kind of influence. Anyway, the important point here is that one of Rodriguez' reported students was Ziad Jarrah, who shared some of his teachings with Marwan al-Shehhi. Jarrah, the alleged pilot of Flight 93, trained at Rudi Dekkers' Venice airport, just as Marwan al-Shehhi, the alleged pilot of Flight 175 and the right-hand man of Mohammed Atta. Atta was the alleged terrorist ringleader and pilot of Flight 11. The connections of the hijackers and Rudi Dekkers to shady international intelligence and drug cartels have been documented by Daniel Hopsicker. Maybe it's nothing, maybe it's everything. I wanted to read Ronson's book before doing this update. However, I accidentally ordered in it from England and the past few months nothing arrives anymore what I order from England. Have to reorder from the US some day. <br><br>So, without taking it any further, it's obvious there is something very strange going on here with One Nation Under Siege and General Stubblebine. The movie is quite decent and doesn't go into 9/11 a whole lot. It mostly deals with the loss of freedom the American people are experiencing, which is a good subject. However, the only advantage the film has over older Alex Jones movies is the more accessible way in which the matter is presented; there's nothing new to be found. Also, it's a typical Christian Conservative "blame the liberal left" kind of movie. But it still teaches the basic lessons.<br><br>Now the update on Greer's book 'Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge'. Here are the new names (well, three of them): <br><br>Name in book Real name (as thought by PEHI) How sure <br>Edward Teller [p. 186] Edward Teller 100% <br>Admiral Harry Trane [p. 183] Admiral Harry D. Train II 100% <br>Admiral Y.N. [p. 186] Admiral Bobby Ray Inman Near 100% <br>James Jesus Angleton descendent James "Jim" Angleton, Jr. About 70%, but doesn't really matter anymore in this case <br>Black ops person who presents himself as a UFO researcher and picture analyst [p. 194] James "Jim" J. Dilettoso Near 100% <br><br>Below you can see how these conclusions were reached. More in depth biographies, accompanied by names from other sources, will be provided with a future article on this subject (which will probably take a long time). <br><br>Name Bio <br>Edward Teller Identified by name <br>Member of the Manhattan Project. Co-founder of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. Pushed for the development of fusion weapons. Member of the US Global Strategy Council that pushed the development of non-lethal weapons and the Star Wars program. Teller was one of most important promoters of Star Wars, which was later accused of having served as a bogus front program to divert funds into black projects mainly having to do with the development of psychotronic weapons. Friend of Col. John Alexander, the Army's top psychotronic researcher and someone involved in the civilian UFO community. According to Greer, Teller was involved for a long time in MJ-12 and-or successor groups. <br> <br>Harry D. Train II Identified by name, although misspelled <br>Born in 1927. Son of Admiral Harold Cecil Train. BS from the US Naval Academy in 1949. Commander of the Cruiser-Destroyer Flotilla 8 in 1971-1972. Director of international security affairs at the East Asia and Pacific Region Office of the Assistant Secretary Defense 1972-1973. Director of the Systems Analysis Division at the Office of the Chief Naval Operations 1973-1974. Director of the joint staff at the Joint Chiefs of Staff 1974-1977. Commander of the US 6th Fleet, Naval Forces Europe, 1976-1978. Promoted to Admiral in 1978. Commander in chief of the US Atlantic Fleet and supreme allied commander of the Atlantic 1978-1982. Atlantic Command is part of NATO. Merle Shane McDow, who worked under Admiral Train at a top security department at Atlantic Command, testified to the Disclosure Project that sometime around May 1981 a UFO appeared on the US East Coast which did circles around the interceptor jets. Train turned out to be completely unprepared for this encounter at the time. The next year Train retired and became one of the major community leaders (business and politics) in the Hampton Roads/Norfolk area, next to the locally very influential businessman Henry Clay Hofheimer II. He already met with these businessmen during his time as head of Atlantic Command. Train became manager of SAIC's division in Hampton Roads in 1986 and never left. Joined IDA. Joined a host of other technology and regular business companies. Member of the United States Commission on National Security that warned for a 9/11 type attack. To prevent such an attack a "Homeland Security Agency" had to be set up. Greer says he has evidence that Train is/was involved in overseeing certain USAPs. <br> <br>Bobby Ray Inman Hints by Greer about the Admiral Y.N.'s identity: <br>1) He's an admiral<br>2) Involved with MJ-12 or similar group <br>3) Friend of Barry Goldwater<br>4 ) Held several very high government positions<br>5) "... and, from one of those [high government] positions, [Inman] went on to be one of the chief people at [SAIC]"<br>6) Admiral Train is identified by name in Greer's book <br>Inman is an Admiral (1). Bob Oechsler gave evidence in the 1980s that Inman was a person involved in some kind of MJ-12 type operation (2). Admiral Hill-Norton and Timothy Good picked up on that. In the early 1980s, Goldwater campaigned for Inman to be instated as DCI. Instead, Reagan picked Casey. (3). Director ONI; director DIA; deputy director CIA; director NSA (4). November 2005, Hustler Magazine, 'UFOs: What the Government Really Knows': "Admiral Bobby Ray Inman, who went from head of the National Security Agency to the board of SAIC - which is one of the crown jewels of this covert entity - is a member [of the covert group]." (5) Director SAIC; director Wackenhut; member CFR since late 1970s; Trilateral Commission; spoke at Bohemian Grove in 2005; chairman "JPL Oversight Committee" for Mars missions , which was not supposed to exist. <br><br>Update, Oct. 9: Doing a quick background check, it turned out that Inman already was a regular member of the Bohemian Grove in the early 1990s and almost certainly in the 1980s. Therefore he might well have been the person that told everyone at the Bohemian Grove in 2001 (after the Disclosure Project event in Washington) that he had been inside these black projects and there was nothing ET in it to be found. Greer was told this information by Y.H., "a European financier and hotelier", about the only anonymous person in Greer's book that hasn't been identified... yet. It shouldn't be to hard; not that many European members in the Bohemian Grove. <br> <br>James Angleton, Jr. Hints by Greer about the J.J. Angleton descendent's identity: <br>1) Descendent of James Jesus Angleton <br>2) Very wealthy<br>3) Involved in the covert group Greer has been talking about <br>Besides two daughters and a large US-Italian family, "James Charles Angleton of Los Angeles" is the only son of James Jesus Angleton, the famous spy chief, according to his 1987 obituary. Two anonymous grandchildren are also listed. There seems to be only one James C. Angleton in the US and today this person has a Law Office in Los Angeles. But is this the person Greer was talking about? Hard to tell, but there's a much better choice anyway. Take James Angleton, Jr. from Miami, Florida. Are you ready? <br><br>It took a while to find, but it turns out that a James "Jim" Angleton, Jr., of all the possibilities, is president of the Ted Shackley Miami chapter of the Association For Intelligence Officers (AFIO). Ted Shackley of course being the most controversial CIA spook in the history of the Agency, playing a key role in the heroin trade from the Golden Triangle to the US. The AFIO used to be called the Association of Former Intelligence Officers, but maybe they realized many intelligence agents never really retire. Anyway, directors of the national organization include George H.W. Bush, Gerald Ford, Frank Carlucci, Bobby Ray Inman, William H. Webster, and James Woolsey. <br><br>But don't think we're done yet. The Ted Shackley Miami chapter has website on which you can find this (or this) page: <br><br>The Greater Miami Chamber of Commerce<br>in association with<br>The Ted Shackley Miami Chapter of <br>The Association of Former Intelligence Officers<br>will host a luncheon meeting on:<br><br>Wednesday, September 15th [2004] <br>Radisson Hotel Miami<br>1601 Biscayne Boulevard<br>Ballroom Level<br>11:30 AM Registration<br><br>Dr. Hal Puthoff<br>Director for the Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin<br>Science Advisor to NASA, Bigelow Aerospace<br>"Zero Point Energy by 2012"<br>Imagine running your Porsche on the energy from a single drop of water<br>or getting to your destination in 1/2 the time the Concorde takes<br>all without fossil fuel or pollution.<br><br>&<br><br>Dr. Edgar Mitchell<br>Apollo 14 Astronaut, the sixth NASA Astronaut to walk on the moon<br>Member of the Board of Directors for the National Institute for Discovery Science<br>"Man on the Moon"<br>What's out there and what does it mean to human kind?<br><br>AFIO & Chamber Members $55.00<br>Non-Members $75.00<br><br>Reservations Are Required!!<br><br>Both Hal Puthoff and Edgar Mitchell are part of Robert Bigelow's private research team, which has already been discussed in the last update. They are part of a military group that clearly interfaces with the civilian UFO community for reasons unknown. It also seems to have completely destroyed any credibility the UFO community could have acquired. <br><br>This particular meeting was postponed, but that doesn't matter. As for now, I'll place my bets on James Angleton, Jr. having told Greer about a compartmented group within NATO and the effect of the 2001 Disclosure Briefing in Washington. And otherwise, it would have been close family of his. You can mail him at Jim_Angleton@msn.com<br> <br>James J. "Jim" Dilettoso Hints by Greer about this person's identity: <br>1) Involved in Black Ops <br>2) UFO researcher <br>3) Digital image analyst<br>4) Had a ranch in Arizona <br>5) On that ranch was a "safe house" in which a special forces guy, who had made a tape of a downed ET craft or an Alien Reproduction Vehicle, was sheltering. At some point two things happened: a finger was found in a baggy nailed to the mailbox and this person went missing. In what order isn't known. <br>The story of Dilettoso is absolutely hilarious and he has become one of my favorite characters in this strange world of ufology. The April 21-27, 1993 of "the New Times" wrote about Dilettoso's murky past. I'll quote a few relevant passages below, but you should definitely read the whole article: <br><br>"He worked for NASA out of a Phoenix office, and claims to have worked on top-secret projects for the agency out of Jet Propulsion Laboratories (JPL) in Pasadena (1). Other former NASA employees have confirmed that claim, but calls to JPL to verify it sound like Monty Python routines: "Who do you think he is? Do you think he's telling the truth? I'm not going to tell you..."<br><br>"In the mid-1980s, Dilettoso still worked for NASA, running an information center out of his own Computer Graphics Lab (3) at ASU's downtown computer institute. He shared space with ASU because he had helped obtain a Cray Supercomputer for the ASU center... "He could make sounds come out of the computer that shouldn't have been there." Berg remembers. "One night I went to see him and he had this graphics program he had developed (3). All of a sudden, on a PC, he's demonstrating the ability to run interactive graphics that the rest of the world hadn't been able to do yet. I went away wondering why he could figure that out with no formal training and no one else could. He just did it.""<br><br>""He's fun to be around," says Michael Malin, a NASA scientist whom Dilettoso consulted while analyzing photographs of UFOs (2). "He's not at all crazy, but about half of what he says is bullshit and half of it is probably not far from the truth. The problem is trying to figure out which is which. He does tend to get involved in more fanciful notions than you or I.""<br><br>"The cast of characters that wander in and out of his home and his studio are equally peculiar: a retired Air Force colonel who has the walk and affect of a spook (1); a blind TV director who has a show about UFOs. Jeff Harris, chief sound engineer for a major Hollywood recording studio, recalls going to Dilettoso's ranch (4) to meet a former Navy SEAL who claimed he had guarded alien spacecraft. "When I got there, the man had his ear pressed up against the wall to hear if anyone was coming. He had weapons strapped all up and down his legs," Harris says. (5)" <br><br>"Dilettoso keeps current with every government conspiracy to cover up UFO research that "would change the meaning of life." (2) His girlfriend, Susan Gordon, claims to he a UFO contactee and lectures nationwide as to whether extraterrestrials are really angels."<br><br>Dilettoso was recruited by retired Air Force Colonel Wendell Stevens in 1977 to do photo analyses on the Billy Meier case (3). Stevens was a founding director of the International UFO Congress in 1991, which still exists today. Part of the International UFO Congress' network is the website of Dilettoso: Alienzoo.com (it even uses the same image for the button you click to buy stuff). Both websites look good, but have this classic non-serious design; and looking at the meetings International UFO Congress it seems this small crowd can go on for another 20 years and it would hardly change a thing. Every researcher I see is doing his own little thing; and you don't have a clue who to trust. <br><br>I took the following extract from Alienzoo, which goes into the affair with the Special Forces guy. As usual, it's a hilarious read, albeit with a tragic ending. January 31, 2000, Jim Dilettoso:<br><br>"The first International UFO Congress convened in Tucson, Arizona, in November 1991, in the presence of... Omnec Onec from Venus... Omnec looked 35 but said she was 439... Since I was one of the event promoters, it was only fitting that Wendelle Stevens.s grandson Gem Cox (a former Navy sub-nuclear generator expert) and I would get the grand interview at my Flying Heart Ranch in Paradise Valley, Arizona (4). 80 acres of inspiration and paradise...<br><br>John Conner was also staying (Shall I say hiding out?) at the ranch. Were it not for the diagonal 10-inch scar across his strikingly handsome face, one would never suspect that he was an AWOL Navy Seal, harboring the darkest secrets of Dulce and Area 51. He had been at my place for a few weeks already, and it was getting hot. He had photographs and videos of aliens working with military personnel. He had pictures of Bush and Cheney visiting the lower levels of Area 51, where he was a security officer - until they murdered his friend. So he said. To top it off, Conner vowed he was going to blow the whistle."<br><br>"Witnessing all of this was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity... Omnec believed that aliens were, like her, benevolent multi-dimensional beings who hungered for the advancement of the human race [like Dilettoso's girlfriend]. She was open, optimistic, cultured, reverent. Conner, by contrast, believed that aliens were evil beings with a plan to take over Earth, with the help of a few well-placed government officials...<br><br>When Conner and I spoke, which was usually about 8 p.m., we talked about the evidence he had from Area 51, proving that the highest levels of personnel in our government regularly came to visit the joint alien-U.S. military research lab. He said that aliens were working side-by-side with our scientists on flying machines, generators, genetic engineering, and more. And he had pictures and video. Omnec said it was all nonsense. Conner said she was a kook.<br><br>... On Thanksgiving, we went out for dinner at my brother.s restaurant. Conner agreed to come with us, and this was first time he was leaving the ranch since he arrived. I locked the gate and we drove down the road. When we returned, I opened the gate, which had a plastic-bag pinned to it. Inside the house, when I opened the bag and found a severed female finger and a note, I knew it was time for Conner to leave. For some reason, Omnec left the same night." <br><br>Notice how the story seems to differ from the one written down in Greer's book: <br><br>"A covert op guy I know in Arizona [Dilettoso] acquired the Carp tape, where what appears to be either an alien reproduction vehicle or an actual ET craft went out of control and crash-landed near a military facility in Canada.<br><br>During the retrieval operation, one of the special teams involved filmed the landed craft. The person who made this film was doing it clandestinely; it's a very shaky film. I have it. It came to me with some photographs of what looked like some ET life forms.<br><br>This film and the man who shot it [Dilettoso's "John Conner"] made their way to a person who is black ops but presents himself as a concerned UFO researcher and digital image analyst. So he gave this person who made the film a 'safe house' on his ranch in Arizona. Well, I'm not sure that it was a safe house at all. One day, this 'protector' came back out to the ranch -- and hammered to the mailbox of the ranch was a baggy with a finger in it, with a little piece of paper that said, "TWEP" -- terminate with extreme prejudice [common term in assassinations]. They never found this person, and it is presumed that he was killed. The owner of the ranch told me this story." <br><br>Reading Greer's account it seems "John Conner" just went missing some day with only his finger left in the mail. According to Dilettoso, John Conner was with him while they found this (female) finger, and Conner left after this event. <br><br>But the most important aspect of this story is the video tape, as you can't trust anything Dilettoso says. Greer says he has it. Why not release it? Then again, Dilettoso did special effects for movies, so it would be a never ending debate anyway. Maybe its best to forget the whole story, including Dilettoso. <br> <br><br>One day this information will be used in a much more comprehensive article. More and more it seems to me that once you focus on names, very complete biographies, and in depth on the research of some key investigators, you should be able to create a lot of oversight in a relatively short article even in the field of ufology. Whatever it is, the UFO phenomenon is real. Just reading old newspaper clippings should convince anyone of that. But what's happening on earth is actually far more interesting at this moment. <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://home.planet.nl/~reijd050/">home.planet.nl/~reijd050/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Military Intelligence and CIA

Postby Dreams End » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:32 am

There's a years worth of research in there. A panoply of parapolitical players.<br><br>I have to say I'm starting to think that nearly all the UFO stuff, especially the insider stuff, is disinfo as part of larger experiments at social manipulation. <br><br>Greer himself has ties to the Transcendental Meditation group, as does John Gray, (Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus), who was an early 9/11 truth movement supporter. And Danny Sheehan was legal counsel to both TM and to Disclosure Project as well as the Christic Institute in the 80's. <br><br>Remote viewing comes into this, but I now think that most if not all of remote viewing was fake and a cover for some additional mc games. After all, the primary people behind it at SRI were Scientologists. <br><br>It seems now regular people can get RM "training", which means hours of trance induced by the trainer. <br><br>There's so many little mysteries that all tie in. The Gulf Breeze 6...the military intel guys who all went AWOL with their secret UFO information (which I don't think was more than was available in the public domain) and headed to Florida waiting for some big event. They were all discharged but I don't think any were prosecuted. <br><br>So much of this deep cover b.s. creating cover story on top of coverstory wrapped in a cover story. I'll have to reread this article more closely...I'm pretty sure I'd seen it before, actually.<br><br>Oh, I've also heard...actually from a former follower of Greer who wrote on this board....that Greer himself was pretty cultish. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Military Intelligence and CIA

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:20 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>His girlfriend, Susan Gordon, claims to he a UFO contactee and lectures nationwide as to whether extraterrestrials are really angels."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Nuff said. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Military Intelligence and CIA

Postby monster » Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:36 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>It seems now regular people can get RM "training", which means hours of trance induced by the trainer.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Yeah trances aren't cool. Well maybe, but not if someone else can manipulate you. <br><br>A while back I got a hemisync CD to help concentration. This is a frequency played over and over to supposedly get your hemispheres functioning together. It's from the Monroe Institute, which was founded by that one freaky guy. <br><br>Anyway, I started feeling strange and thinking thoughts that I didn't think were mine. I broke the CD into pieces and threw it away. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Military Intelligence and CIA

Postby yesferatu » Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:53 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>A while back I got a hemisync CD to help concentration. This is a frequency played over and over to supposedly get your hemispheres functioning together. It's from the Monroe Institute, which was founded by that one freaky guy. <br>Anyway, I started feeling strange and thinking thoughts that I didn't think were mine. I broke the CD into pieces and threw it away. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I know you meant that as a warning, but seriously, I will now have to get the hemisync CD for myself. <br><br>If I am told the ouija board starts out giving innocouous messages, but soon turns into a diabolical instrument whereby the board levitates and begins flying and objects hurl themselves violently at ones head...well, then I am going out and getting me a ouija board! <br>Go ahead, roll your eyes. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Military Intelligence and CIA

Postby monster » Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:35 pm

Haha well that's understandable, it does make it more interesting. <br><br>My post made it sound like this happened immediately, but I actually used it for about a week before I threw it away. <br><br>The hemisync happened about a year ago. But a few weeks ago I found a copy of Robert Monroe's "Journeys out of the Body" in a thrift store. I started reading it last night. I hope his book doesn't affect me like his CDs... <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I know you meant that as a warning, but seriously, I will now have to get the hemisync CD for myself.<br><br>If I am told the ouija board starts out giving innocouous messages, but soon turns into a diabolical instrument whereby the board levitates and begins flying and objects hurl themselves violently at ones head...well, then I am going out and getting me a ouija board!<br>Go ahead, roll your eyes.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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