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by **israelirealities** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:25 pm

I am working on a post in my Hebrew blog, with the aim of introducing the MC, government programming issue to my readers. Basically, the terms are not familiar here, neither is MK Ultra, and if you tell it to people they think you are making it up. The issue is in deep denial for several reasons. first, it almost appears that everyone here is victimized by some sort of MC...but seriously, the stakes of waking up from the illusion of a trusted government are high. So people prefer to suffer, rather than face up to reality and do something about it. My plan was to write a "book review" on two or three books, like BlueBird by Ross (an MD sounds more reliable) and one of the remove viewers/psychic warriors...books. Since none are available in Hebrew (in fact no other book on the subject is available here), this is sort of legit to review "weird" books from the USA. However, if anyone has some good advice/tips from past experiences of having to speak on this issues before a totally ignorant audience...these will be welcome.

by **Project Willow** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:49 pm

Hi, I've actually given three presentations on both ra and mc. I find that when you're confronting a completely unaware audiance, it helps to use very general terms at first. A web site is a little different, I've rewritten mine countless times and it still needs lots of work. These are complicated subjects, it's difficult to distill them into a short introduction, let alone a sound bite. I'd be happy to share what I've got if you're interested. There is this <a href="http://www.lynnsart.net/pdfs/pamphlet3.pdf">pamphlet</a> if that helps any.

by **israelirealities** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:15 pm

Its a good website as well, and the pamphlet is very good. I still thing this is going too fast into the very hard stuff. I cannot imagine the reaction to such a pamphlet in my website, if I translated it and presented as binding (as opposed to just presenting something in English, which then looks like one of those "exotica corners". WHile I am writing this, I am becoming aware whey the denial here would be particularly stong. The general "myth" of "defence mechanism" for most Israelis goes as following - there were evil nazis in europe and we came here, established a safe house with our very own defense forces. This is a refuge, this is safe FROM these atrocities. And then, I come and say, hey, this "home" is not so safe, and the people who are supposed to protect you from precisely this, are doing it to you. This is like a child who would rather keep the false illusion of a good parent, at the price of being severely abused, because the illusion is more important for her survival...but still, one has to penetrate precisely this denial..

by **Homeless Halo** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:33 pm

I use programming techniques on myself. I find it odd that people don't think this sort of thing can happen, when it happens on a small scale all the time. That is, trauma induced personality displacement: see religious conversion.

by **Seventhson** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:37 pm

Hi you two (so far). I have been researching issues close to this for some time and having lived in a family with intelligence ties as well as opponents of the shadow spooks - but in the middle of it all -- I became very aware of the potential for sexual blackmail and being compromised at a fairly early age. i.e. I experienced what I believe was a deliberate methodology utilized by the elites to "recruit" young men for purposes of intel blackmail at an elite prep school. Since I had close relatives in intel operations, I also learned as I got older that such blackmail was a common blackops tool for compromising politicians or any "asset" of value who did not want their sexual predilictions to be known. Thus, I think one aspect of all of this is quite easy to explain: i.e. that intel "targets" who are inclined to want sex which is either illegal (i.e. minors) or consider "depraved" by many (i.e. homosexuality, although that is kind of passe' as an intel tool now except when, Like former NJ Governor Jim McGreevy, it involves infidelity) or straight adultery (i.e. Bill Clinton may well have been an intel target since he was an easy mark due to his selfish preocupation with his penis and her .... whatevers). By recruiting sexual "agents" and even criminally inducing or forcing children or immigrants etc. into the operations it is very easy to target a person who is "weak" for such action. Such a target can be profiled and exploited through survbeillance and monitoring of calls, computer etc. and their weak spots can be found. Then, it is only a matter of getting the right "agent" to be put into action to "trap" them in a compromising position. An underage girl or boy is the ideal agent because sex with them is illegal and not only means that a person will be politically ruined but they will face prison or worse (depending on the country). But where do such underage girls and boys come from? How are they trained? Ritual abuse ands torture, kidnapping, exploitation of illegal immigrants, even sexual slavery and threats to family are the tools used. In Israel, for example, like in the US, there are many many illiugrants who can easily be exploited - especially where the financial situation is bleak. But underage children need to be CONDITIONED to do this. Brainwashed. Handled very well so that they can be effectively controlled. Anyway -- this is not an area of expertise, but since everybody has their "weak spots" whether it is infidelity or younger "prey" or money or closeted homosexuality, bisexuality or "kinky" sex that might make you look "funny" --- people can realte, I think, to the way in which this would work and how the most evil of people could easily use very evil means to get and keep power if they have no morality at all: they will use young underage boys and girls to entrap their foes or people they need to manipulate. Anyway again, what is MC (mond control???) If that is it, then I have more to say -- but I think it is admirable to pursue this public speaking thing. ALSO finally , the comparison of the notoious Nazi pedophiles like Rohm and the flagrant abuses of even the Nazi youth for sex by these perverted Fascists should ring a chord for many as these sick men will stoop to any means to gratify their lust for power and what I call necrophilic worship of mammon. The powers that be

by **chiggerbit** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:27 pm

A remotely related subject might be something that I'm not even sure there is a name for, except to call it group psychology. My favorite along these lines is an author who has been advising this administration for some time by the name of Ed Luttwak. He wrote a book back in the late sixties called Coup d'Etat, a Handbook, which I would say had more to do with group psychology than it did with military techniques, by using the mentality of the bureaucractic mind to asume control of a government. If he knew this much back in the sixties, I sure would be interested in hearing what he has learned since then. Do a search on him. Fascinating person--scary, though, really. I will see what I can find in my files. It isn't mind control, though.

by **Ferry Fey** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:35 pm

I'll weigh in with some general advice on presenting non-mainstream material to mainstream audiences. You'll get a more thoughtful reception if you can keep your language neutral and objective and free of jargon. You aren't trying to "preach to the converted" who understand what you are talking about it and are more receptive to the ideas you are trying to present. Here's the Wikipedia tutorial on Neutral Point of View (NPOV) which may help understand how to achieve that. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV_tutorial">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wik...V_tutorial</a> I'm a big fan of FAQs -- Frequently Asked Questions. Best way to assemble one is to find articles by your loudest antagonists. Go through them sentence by sentence. Find what ideas they bring up over and over, and rebut each one in turn, raising the question, and then answering it.

by **chiggerbit** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:37 pm

"Interesting" article. <a href="http://www.foreignaffairs.org/19990701faessay990/edward-n-luttwak/give-war-a-chance.html">www.foreignaffairs.org/19...hance.html</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Give War a Chance Edward N. Luttwak From Foreign Affairs, July/August 1999 Article preview: first 500 of 2,793 words total. Summary: Since the establishment of the United Nations, great powers have rarely let small wars burn themselves out. Bosnia and Kosovo are the latest examples of this meddling. Conflicts are interrupted by a steady stream of cease-fires and armistices that only postpone war-induced exhaustion and let belligerents rearm and regroup. Even worse are U.N. refugee-relief operations and NGOs, which keep resentful populations festering in camps and sometimes supply both sides in armed conflicts. This well-intentioned interference only intensifies and prolongs struggles in the long run. The unpleasant truth is that war does have one useful function: it brings peace. Let it. <hr></blockquote>

by **chiggerbit** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:10 pm

From Coup d'Etat: "The growth of the modern bureaucracy has two implications which are crucial to the feasibility of the coup: the development of a clear distinction between the permanent machinery of state and the political leadership, and the fact is, like most large organizations, the bureaucracy has a structured hierarchy with definite chains of command... "The importance of this development lies in the fact that if the bureaucrats are linked to the leadership, an illegal seizure of power must take the form of a 'Palace Revolution' and it essentially concerns the manipulation of the person of the ruler. He can be forced to accept to policies or advisors, he can be killed or held captive, but whatever happens the Palace Revolution can only be conducted from the 'inside', and by 'insiders'... "The coup is a much more democratic affair. It can be conducted from the 'outside' and it operates in that area outside the government but within the state which is formed by the permanent and professional civil service, the armed forces and police. The aim is to detach the permanent employees of the state from the political leadership, and this cannot usually take place if the two are linked by political, ethnic or traditional loyalties." "...[T]he state bureaucracy has to divide its work into clear-cut areas of competance, which are assigned to different departments. Within each department there must be an accepted chain of command, and standard procedures have to be followed. Thus a given piece of information, or a given order, is followed up in a stereotyped manner, and if the order comes from the appropriate source, at the appropriate level, it is carried out. "...The apparatus of the state is therefore to some extent a 'machine' which will normally behave in a fairly predictable and automatic manner. "A coup operates by taking advantage of this machine-like behavior: during the coup because it uses parts of the state apparatus to seize the controlling levers; afterwards because the value of the 'levers' depends on the fact that the state is a machine."

by **ZeroHaven** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:54 pm

israelirealities, if you want to start VERY gentle but make people think about mind control... I don't know if you have the same kind of TV commercial talking about things to buy as are all over Europe.. but those advertising people use tricks to make you want to buy. This is something people who see them can understand really easy. The TV ad makes you want to buy something you don't really need, and probably wouldn't want. I know it's not even close to the kind of MC people talk about here.. but you said your audience wouldn't believe the big stuff yet. i hope this idea helps. <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/ZeroHaven/tinhat.gif"/>

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by **Project Willow** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:50 am

Ferry Fey, thanks for the input, it's helpful. Israelirealities, here are some more approaches: An author probes the continuum of control through subtle coersion to intentional programming: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>The following list describes 12 forms of mind control, beginning with thought reform that is registered consciously, with memory, through the most covert forms of mind control, in which the individual has no memory of the installation, and is controlled beyond conscious awareness.<hr></blockquote> helpful.<a href="http://truthbeknown2000.tripod.com/Truthbeknown2000/id17.html">truthbeknown2000.tripod.com/Truthbeknown2000/id17.html</a> RA survivor advocates who presented at the United Nations found it useful to use the language of other human rights groups. For ra, they used non-politcal torture, or more specifically torture by non-state actors. I've used the term medical experimentation when first introducing mc. <a href="http://www.ritualabusetorture.org/un.htm">www.ritualabusetorture.org/un.htm</a>

by **israelirealities** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:18 am

Oh, thanks a lot for all the good feedback, materials and advice. I will use all of them, and just start writing see where i get with this. The sex rings issue would probably make more sense to people, as a means to blackmail etc., but I don't think people will easily accept the fact that our government is preparing a "unit" of minor of not minor sex slaves. Personally, I think this is a kind of "expertise" of the ISraeli security forces, and that it had already become a business. Sex slavery is an issue here, but also I would say that since this is a militarized society, these practices and ideas about sex have become part of the culture. Namely, sex as a "weapon". It receives some perverse religious approval, because the bible has two or three famous stories of women using their sex appeal to entrap enemies. There Yeal and Sisra, and Rahab and Joshua and the most favored one, queen Esther and Hamman. These are all old testament stories you might have read too. However, when used as a national myth they sort of "legalize" or "sanctify" a certain version of sex slavery, for the "benefit of the nation", a very fascist way of looking at these ancient stories. And a very dangerous mixture of crimes and religious babble.

by **israelirealities** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:38 am

"A coup operates by taking advantage of this machine-like behavior: during the coup because it uses parts of the state apparatus to seize the controlling levers; afterwards because the value of the 'levers' depends on the fact that the state is a machine." Yeah, I think this captures the problem of the western democracies now, being taken over this way by rich unscrupulous groups. The nation state began as a wall against the international elites (feudals, gentry), and now, after they were baffled for a while, they found a way to USE it, rather than oppose it.

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