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by **orz** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:41 pm

RIP... At least he went out in style... stabbed in the heart by a stingray!? That's something you don't see every day...

by **bvonahsen** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:12 pm

Very sad. He died instantly so... I suppose there are worse ways to go.

by **Et in Arcadia ego** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:41 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>I was actually thinking about his American Missus and the Geogia Guidestones at one point during it...<hr></blockquote> Can you elaborate on this, Joe? ____________________ Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.

by **OnoI812** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:33 pm

does anyone else find it ironic he was making a film about how to play with Stingrays, they're really not that bad , just misunderstood, type of deal? This is so similar to the Grizzlyman ordeal, only difference is that idiot got his girlfriend killed also. Ah well, there's a reason alot of creepy crawlys in the water have armor of some type, armor, speed, camo or great numbers. RIP Irwin. (The alex jones of animal adventure) this little Aussie ditty is for you... I thought I saw a man brought to life He was warm He came around And he was dignified He showed me what it was to cry Well you couldn't be that man I adored You don't seem to know Or seem to care What your heart is for I don't know him anymore There's nothin' where he used to lie My conversation has run dry That's what's going on Nothings right I'm torn I'm all out of faith This is how I feel I'm cold and I am shamed Lying naked on the floor Illusion never changed Into something real I'm wide awake and I can see the perfect sky is torn You're a little late I'm already torn So I guess the fortune tellers right I should have seen just what was there and not some holy light But you crawled beneath my veins And now, I don't care I have no luck I don't miss it all that much There's just so many things That I can't touch I'm torn There's nothin' he used to lie My inspiration has run dry That's what's going on Nothing's right I'm torn

by **Et in Arcadia ego** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:44 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>does anyone else find it ironic he was making a film about how to play with Stingrays, they're really not that bad , just misunderstood, type of deal?<hr></blockquote> Stingrays will be just as much victims of this as he was when his death launches a new backslide in neurotic behavior resulting in thousands of these innocent animals being killed by aggressive and ignorant people striking a blow for old Steve-0..In much the same way as sharks were persecuted for decades due to a pathetically stoopid Speilberg film which was more ignorance in a hieght of self-indulgence. Sad much more than ironic. The real irony is he can only die once while the stingray species as well as all others die a million deaths at the hands of humans and their twisted anthropocentricities.. ____________________ Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.

by **smithtalk** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:27 pm

this is certainly not the most important thread on the board so i shall keep it going no longer after this, but i did want to say that i felt ok making light of his fitting end because i dont think he was the positive icon he seems to be within australia, he held his own baby in front of a crocodile whilst filming at his zoo which i think was unjustifiable and moronic, he moved himself into the firing line by publicly commenting on politics, even worse he called john howard "the greatest leader Australia has ever had and the greatest leader in the world", john howard is a cynical scum fuck that ought to rot in hell, he doesnt give a shit about ordinary people and he certainly doesnt give a shit about the environment and the biosphere, so for me this was a massive black mark for steve irwin, When President Bush visited Australia, steve attended the official barBQ and when greens senator bob brown heckled bush in the parliament and steve was asked "What did you think of Bob Brown’s outburst in Parliament?" steve replied "Oh Crikey mate, he needs to be taken out the back and given a good belting. (laughs)" bob brown is the one of the few australian politicians that gives a shit about the people and the environment, one of few with any integrity. so by all means lament the loss of a larrikin, and a bloke who entertained well and had guts, but dont confuse that with a man that was an advocate for ordinary people or genuine conservation or really making the world a better place cos steve irwin was not that

by **FourthBase** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:35 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>but dont confuse that with a man that was an advocate for ordinary people or genuine conservation or really making the world a better place cos steve irwin was not that<hr></blockquote> His politics were ignorant, yes. But he risked his life in order to grab people's attention and get them to contemplate their relationship to animals and nature. That means something.

by **smithtalk** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:53 pm

i dont agree, he risked his life because that was who he was, he grabbed people's attention because that was who he was and he loved it, encouraging people to contemplate their relationship with animals and nature, stretching it a bit i think

by **FourthBase** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:06 am

It's quality vs. quantity. More people saw and heard Steve Irwin than have heard, say, the superior David Attenborough. Irwin's TV show messages are simplistic, but they are certainly pro-animal and pro-environment. I think he genuinely cared about teaching people to respect animals and nature, and saw it as his mission. Whether he succeeded perfectly is besides the question.

by **Joe Hillshoist** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:45 am

Yeah Smitty I think I agree with your assessment of his politics. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>he risked his life because that was who he was, he grabbed people's attention because that was who he was and he loved it, encouraging people to contemplate their relationship with animals and nature,<hr></blockquote> The first two points are what I really like about him. He was who he was and didn't compomise himself. But he was also a bit dumb, on some levels, thats why the John howard quotes. Irwn was probably 10 times the man Howard is. And for fucks sake hes a redneck from Queensland... But i reckon he did encourage some knowledge about and love of nature. Anyway the jokes have started.... He should have remembered his sunblock - It protects against harmful rays.

by **Joe Hillshoist** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:59 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> I'm a conservationist through and through, Andrew, that's why I was put on this planet. hband I reckon the only thing wrong - no, how is this? The only thing wrong with wildlife in Australia is that I don't own it. Imagine how many kangaroos and crocodiles I could have if I owned Australia? My wife is an American, so she's got this - she's a good capitalist and she's very clever with money. Me, I'm not that clever and I don't really give a rip. But she is. So, whenever we get enough cash and enough - and a chunk of land that we are passionate about - bang, we buy it. I'm a bit of a - I'm a wildlife warrior through and through and buying land is (a) means we're going to be able to get animals back if and/or when they become highly endangered and (b) is getting out into the world, taking you, the audience, with me, having an adventure and making it exciting. Otherwise, you are stuck with the demographics that, say, David Attenborough has got, which is a bit smaller than what I've got, and changing people's opinions on wildlife. How is this? For the first time in history, mate, I've just been involved with an issue where people were worried about the welfare of a shark? How is that? For the first time in history? Yeah! Astounding. Absolutely astounding. A tiger shark. Admittedly the tiger shark was doing great. Her name was Bonny. She was 14 foot and I helped catch her and release her into the wild. First time in history people are seeing crocodiles and snakes as animals that have welfare issues, which is fantastic. I believe if I can secure enough habitat, and then there will be always a place for the animals to go when they've been annihilated throughout their habitat. Basically, mate, the human population is going off. It's a bit too rapid for the old mother earth to keep up with, mate. This is my way of helping her out. <hr></blockquote> Thats the transcript of the bit that got me thinking about them G Gs, arcadia. It was just one of those thoughts that popped into my head. Nothing to do with what I was hearing him say really. Just one of those strange connections. BTW I am not trying to invent any strangeness about his death. It was just weird. That a stingray could kill people is no big surprise, the ones that are over 1.5 metres without the tail can have a barb over 6 inches long, and they whip them pretty damn fast. I have heard of a bloke on a trawler who was killed by one. Apparantly it hit him so hard it pierced his sternum. Edit for: <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/tv/enoughrope/transcripts/s1732743.htm" target="top">This is the link for the transcript to the Interview with Denton on Enough Rope.</a> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=joehillshoist>Joe Hillshoist</A> at: 9/5/06 4:02 am

by **bkkexile** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:17 am

Favourite quote was from doco from indonesia that he did. He 's walking down a market, and stops to show a cage crammed full of live chickens. He says without any emotion except fascination, that they keep them like this 'cause they don't have fridges' and this how you keep them fresh. Twenty metre's further he comes across "something that really saddens me" which is a couple of snakes in a cage waiting to be sold as food. He didn't give a fuck about the chickens LOL! BTW I'm pretty sure they have fridges in Indonesia

by **FourthBase** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:50 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>He didn't give a fuck about the chickens LOL!<hr></blockquote> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol">

by **wintler** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:52 am

A shame for his family, but i wont miss him. He was definately pro-Howard/Bush, and he dog-whistled racism and cultural supremacism same as Howard. I don't see theme parks, privatised conservation and international tourism as doing anything good for the other living things on this planet, regardless of his pretty questionable intentions. He may have been passionate and had excellent rapport with animals, but he was at least guilty of willful naivety.

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:27 pm

Having a 'good relationship' with animals includes human beings, too. He risked his own child's life and left it fatherless, highly irresponsible. on edit: Simplifying. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 9/6/06 12:37 am

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He wasn't a philosophical genius, for sure

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