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Gun-Free Scotland+England top 1st world in violent crime

Postby proldic » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:24 pm

September 19, 2005 <br><br>Scotland tops list of world's most violent countries<br>By Katrina Tweedie<br> <br> <br>A UNITED Nations report has labelled Scotland the most violent country in the developed world, with people three times more likely to be assaulted than in America. <br>England and Wales recorded the second highest number of violent assaults while <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Northern Ireland recorded the fewest</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->... <br><br> The study, based on telephone interviews with victims of crime in 21 countries, found that more than 2,000 Scots were attacked every week, almost ten times the official police figures. They include non-sexual crimes of violence and serious assaults. <br><br>Violent crime has doubled in Scotland over the past 20 years...<br> <br>The attacks have been fuelled by a “booze and blades” culture in the west of Scotland...<br> <br>...“I am embarrassed as a Scot that we are seeing this level of violence. Politicians must do something about this problem. This is a serious public health issue. Violence is a cancer in this part of the world,” he said. <br><br>Detective Chief Superintendent John Carnochan, head of the Strathclyde Police’s violence reduction unit, said the problem was chronic and restricting access to drink and limiting the sale of knives would at least reduce the problem... <br><br>The study, by the UN’s crime research institute, found that 3 per cent of Scots had been victims of assault compared with 1.2 per cent in America and just 0.1 per cent in Japan, 0.2 per cent in Italy and 0.8 per cent in Austria. In England and Wales the figure was 2.8 per cent. <br><br>Scotland was eighth for total crime, 13th for property crime, 12th for robbery and 14th for sexual assault. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>New Zealand</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>had the most</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> property crimes and <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>sexual assaults</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, while Poland had the most robberies... <br><br> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1786945,00.html">www.timesonline.co.uk/art...45,00.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Gun-Free Scotland+England top 1st world in violent crime

Postby eric144 » Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:13 am

I actually live in the town reputed to be the most violent in Scotland. If anyone disagrees with that, I'll be round to sort you out. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Drink, Pray, Fight, Fuck

Postby Gouda » Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:19 pm

Great gonzo-ish essay on the infuence of the Scots Irish (The Borderers) on the mind(less)set in america today. This is one angle, not much examined. Leave to to Joe Bageant: <br>"Drink, Pray, Fight, Fuck - The Borderer Legacy Haunts America" <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Jan05/Bageant0126.htm">www.dissidentvoice.org/Ja...nt0126.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"Nearly a third of Americans have Borderer ancestors, though they know little about them, if they know anything at all. Even informed people generally know zilch about the influence this culture continues to exert on America, although that may be about to change somewhat with the current spate of hagiographic Scots Irish books."<br><br>Get the rest of his writings here: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.coldtype.net/joe.html">www.coldtype.net/joe.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>He also lifts the rock on the dominionists & reconstructionists, inter alia, and has a fantastic essay on holy madmen. <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby vondardenelle » Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:38 pm

i lived in glasgow for a year and then moved to london for a year after that. i felt a million times safer in glasgow than i ever did in london. neds never gave me any trouble. but those scots can drink...<br><br>there's a funny article by david cross where he talks about how he he'd rather go out in america, where there's a one in 10,000 chance he'll get shot, than in Britain where there's a 1 in 3 chance he'll get beat up leaving the pub. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Drink, Pray, Fight, Fuck

Postby eric144 » Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:42 pm

I don't think the borderer story is very credible although the portait of the borders isn't that far off. . Most Scots immigrants to America came from<br><br>1) The fact that the punishment for all crime in Scotland up to 1865 was transportation to the colonies. That's where I believe much of the American (and possibly Australian) character comes from.<br><br>2) The Highland clearances around 1800 where peasants were moved to make way for sheep. It was also a way of destroying the culture that had rebelled in 1745.<br><br>American fundamentalism and dispensationalism came from an Irish Protestant, John Nelson Darby, although he based some of his teachings on visions of a girl in Port Glasgow, Scotland. It is also a very obvious psyop.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=John_Nelson_Darby&printable=yes">www.sourcewatch.org/wiki....ntable=yes</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.jimpivonka.com/pages/armageddon.html">www.jimpivonka.com/pages/armageddon.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: glesca

Postby eric144 » Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:46 pm

I live very close to Glasgow (Paisley) and I don't feel safe walking about any more, too many little neds, not all of them from the bottom rungs of society either. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: glesca

Postby dbeach » Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:26 pm

Maybe its all those UFOs?? the lil green fiends worship violence.<br><br>Welcome to RI<br><br>Never been to your area but that beer stuff gets around<br>and mixed often with wine and pizza creates quite a meal <p></p><i></i>
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Scots and Irics in the US

Postby marykmusic » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:42 pm

The history of bluegrass music is powerfully started by those rebellious Scots who were deported (or run off) after Culloden. I'm sure you've got the time right on that... mid-eighteenth century. The Elizabethan ballads we now know as fiddle tunes with long histories, were brought with those Scots who settled in what was then the far frontier, the Appalachians. There, they continued their way of life, complete with family feuds (think Hatfields and McCoys), music, isolation, and making whiskey.<br><br>Many of those Scots were transplanted to Ireland, where a serious genocide had been going on since Queen Elizabeth I's day. As the Irish were killed off (and the potato famine is thought by some to have been engineered to clear the land of those over-populating poor Catholics), Scots were brought in to work the land. They dropped the "a" out of their last names, for example from MacDonald to McDonald, and became the Scotch-Irish. Lots of them went to America, Canada and Australia as well, because they would never become land-owners, or anywhere near self-sufficient. The Oklahoma Land Runs were a big opportunity for them, as well as the Homestead Act.<br><br>The Irish were important as laborers, as seen in the building of the railroads. They were heavily discriminated against by those immigrants who had preceded them here.<br><br>Lots of the history we were taught in school was a gross over-simplification of the real story, of course. But the genocide in Ireland is not usually talked about.<br><br>It all relates to how this country was settled. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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