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Treason Felony Act

Postby antiaristo » Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:08 pm

baned, <br>It's in the text itself. It refers to our Most Gracious Lady the Queen.<br>If there is no such person, how can one transgress against them?<br><br>I see you don't like this, so let me put it in context.<br>The "Abdication Crisis" of 1936.<br><br>When George VI died, his eldest son was a batchelor.<br>Can you not work through and work out what really happened? And WHO it was that forced his hand (clue: it wasn't Stanley Baldwin) <p></p><i></i>
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Obviously, you've never studied law...

Postby banned » Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:18 pm

...and how you read black letter law.<br><br>The queen was the reigning monarch when the law was passed.<br><br>The law refers to the reigning monarch, WHOEVER that might be, queen or king.<br><br>Using your reasoning, it only applied to Victoria, and she's dead, so it doesn't apply at all.<br><br>Similar reasoning would be that if a US law referred to the President as 'he' and we had a female as president the law would not operate. Doesn't work that way. <p></p><i></i>
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Treason Felony Act

Postby antiaristo » Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:49 pm

banned,<br>It actually happened the other way around.<br>There WERE treason laws on the books, going back I think to the 13th Century. But they always specified the King as the injured party.<br><br>The situation in 1848 was one of perceived crisis. After four years of starvation in Ireland came the revolutions throughout Europe.<br><br>Victoria was the first reigning queen since Elizabeth. So they passed an emergency law to make it clear that treason applied in the same way to the Queen.<br><br>If it is important to you I can research what other laws were on the books at the time which specified the King. And of course "Monarch" can apply to either a king or a queen.<br><br>Of course the situation with regard to a "president" is different: the title is gender neutral. But the Treason Felony Act was passed for the specific reason that king certainly is not gender neutral. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Treason Felony Act

Postby AnnaLivia » Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:48 pm

anti! punkin, lemme have this next waltz, ...and i'll whisper in your ear how proldic posted that organic farming stuff for the OPPOSITE purpose of what you think...<br><br>c'mon, darlin...he was reinforcing the theme we're on here lately!<br><br>(just don't tell him that ruthie really DID get me drunk tonight, 'kay? i don't need the grief!)<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Treason Felony Act

Postby antiaristo » Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:31 pm

Anna,<br>I'd like to believe what you say is true.<br>After proldic had asked me a question about my two daughters I referred him to some of the material in Data Dump. The two affidavits, to be precise.<br>Well, I heard nothing back.<br>A month later he piles into an unrlated thread and unloads a mouthful of spew on me, something about how could I send him there knowing what I know about his beliefs.<br>I had no idea what he meant, but the abusive tone foreclosed any inquiry on my part.<br><br>The "Ecologist-Farmer" meme is to cloak an evil and vicious man.<br>Do you know what he has done to James Hewitt?<br><br>Any friend of the Windsors is an enemy of mine. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Eco farmer indeed LMAO.

Postby slimmouse » Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:45 pm

<br> Heres a bit of REAL Eco farming news meanwhile;<br><br> <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>In 1916, the U.S. Government predicted that by the 1940s all paper would come from hemp and that no more trees need to be cut down. Government studies report that 1 acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of trees. Plans were in the works to implement such programs; Department of Agriculture...... <br><br> Henry Ford's first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS CONTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular Mechanics, 1941.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> - Wow, even PM used to give us it straight lol.<br><br><br> Full article ;<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3774">www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/...sp?ID=3774</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> So of course, you dont get too much real honesty out of Charlies Gob regarding REAL eco honesty. Kinda like 9/11 strangely enough, or the London Bombings, or the Power of the Scottish Rite freemasons, etcetera etcetera etcetera.<br><br> Next news, people will be suggesting that Royals dont know of such stuff. I have a friend who claims he saw Charlie one day mysteriously appear in a place he really shouldnt have been. But of course all that "paranormal" stuff is for the birds right ?<br><br> When ARE people gonna get with the programme here ? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 11/5/05 7:48 pm<br></i>
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If old Bag Ears is some kind of evil arch-mage...

Postby banned » Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:11 am

...then stop the world, I want to get off.<br><br>Not saying you're not right, just that if the best Old Scratch can do these days is dimbulbs like Junior and overeducated twits like Chuck, we should be SO totally embarassed that we can't make chutney out of them in short order. <br><br>After all...I grew up thinking the AntiChrist would be handsome and suave and sexy in his Savile Row suits like Sam Neill in "The Omen", and instead get two ugly aging losers who minus the parents they had would be an unemployed alcoholic (W) and a literal dirt farmer in Wapping Cutlet, Lancs.<br><br>We must be the fucking laughingstock planet of this side of the galaxy. Seriously. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: If old Bag Ears is some kind of evil arch-mage...

Postby antiaristo » Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:26 am

banned,<br>I hate to add to your gloom.<br>I can explain their power.<br><br>From 1952 to 2002 there were TWO persons called "Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth".<br>All that time the most dangerous of the two was operating in complete secrecy. People just forgot about her apart from birthdays and funerals.<br><br>Yes. The person you have been trained to call the Queen Mother was in fact Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth from 1936/7 until 2002. Have a look at her tomb.<br><br>Do you really believe they have all that`power because we LOVE them?? <p></p><i></i>
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Anti, can you substantiate this...

Postby banned » Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:30 am

" Victoria was the first reigning queen since Elizabeth. So they passed an emergency law to make it clear that treason applied in the same way to the Queen."<br><br>From what I've seen in admittedly quick and dirty research is that the TFA of 1848 was passed to protect the monarchy by making it possible to deport anyone who advocated an end to it even by peaceful means--totally understandable in light of the revolutionary fervor of 1848--and that it has not been used since 1883.<br><br>In light of all the other stuff going on I just don't get the focus on this law, especially since I believe your interpretation that its language referring to the reigning monarch who was then a Queen means there is no treason if there is no queen is simply wrong. Not that you can't argue it--people argue narrow, peculiar interpretations of isolated words and phrases in statutes all the time. They just don't get very far with it. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Anti, can you substantiate this...

Postby antiaristo » Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:12 am

rapt,<br>It’s a difficult question, and if I knew how to do it that’s what I’d be doing.<br>I mention the TFA at every opportunity. I realise that some will see me as a sad, delusional obsessive, but I’ll pay that price for the simple possibility that one more person might have their eyes opened.<br><br>I KNOW it has had an effect already. I’ll not go further than that.<br><br>It’s certainly a lot easier when I can get into a discussion like the one I’m having with banned. Otherwise I’m playing tennis alone.<br><br>Surely there must be some that can see the intent is a merger of the two countries, and that much of what goes on in Washington is tailored to that long term goal?<br><br><br>banned,<br>The only reason we even know about this law is because the Guardian tried to force its repeal when the Human Rights Act came into force. See here for what happened<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/monarchy/story/0,,985799,00.html">www.guardian.co.uk/monarc...99,00.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>My guess is that you’ve found it already. I’d like to discuss what we find in between the lines of that story.<br>You may have found the text of the judgement where it refers to this law not having been used since 1883 in a prosecution.<br>That is true, but that is not how this law is used.<br><br>It is used PRE-EMPTIVELY.<br>It is used not against ordinary people (“subjects”) but against those who hold power as agents of the State or corporate entities.<br>It has been used against me and my family. That’s why I’ve gone nowhere near my two daughters since Christmas 1994 when Victoria was six and Georgia just three years old. That’s why I’ve had no income since May 1994.<br><br>Let me give you just one example of how this law is used.<br>The invasion of Iraq.<br>There has been much criticism of how Britain went to war. We’ve always known the war was illegal, and that is exactly what the attorney general Peter (Lord) Goldsmith said in his formal opinion.<br>But strange things happened when Goldsmith was summoned to Downing Street on 13 March 2003 to meet Lord Falconer and Baroness Morgan.<br>Following that meeting a revised “opinion” was released in the name of the attorney general.<br>We now know that “opinion” was actually written by Falconer and Morgan.<br>It was announced publicly in the name of the AG, who was forced to stand up in the Lords and accept it as his own. What else could he do?<br>The Treason Felony Act had been invoked against him. If he wanted to keep his job he HAD TO OBEY THE LAW.<br><br>Because be very clear.<br>Although the Guardian had focussed its attack very narrow, on the right to call for the abolition of the Monarchy by peaceful means, that was for tactical reasons because it clearly conflicted with new law, the Human Rights Act.<br><br>The Treason Felony Act is used across the board to control the apparatus of the State.<br>It is used pre-emptively.<br><br>That is why an ancient law is still on the books, and why the British will not repeal a law that has not been used to prosecute in more than one hundred and twenty years.<br><br>It’s more powerful that way.<br>It is used to suppress the English Constitution.<br><br>What? You didn’t know there was an English Constitution?<br>It’s called the Act of Settlement. It’s part of American constitutional law.<br><br>If you go to the Guardian site and call up a story related to the Monarchy it will always include a series of links at the foot of the page.<br>And the first of these is always the Act of Settlement.<br><br>In addition there is a thread where I’ve tried to lay out the constitutional issues. It’s tedious, as is the nature of these things.<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm11.showMessage?topicID=137.topic">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...=137.topic</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Please come back with your criticisms/questions<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Anti, can you substantiate this...

Postby dbeach » Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:58 pm

GHWBush is the american viceroy of her nibs..her cousin and directly and bush jr is related to both sides of british royalty..<br><br>Kerry is 9th cousin of prescott bush[father of GHWBush} <br><br>the USA govt history has many families of britsih ancestry and american royalty like euro royalty has corrupted the world with its lust for power and riches..and what do people do..they worship these scoundrels like they were Christ or the anti-christ[lil joke}<br><br>royalty has ruined the world and their hit men in secret societys and rogue elements of intelll enforce their illegal authority.<br><br>ANTI did his homework and more US citizens need to realize that this royalty and dynasty stuff is the source of our problems..greedy privleged elites wanting MORE like the spoiled brats that they are<br> <p></p><i></i>
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I'm not the one to discuss the Brits.

Postby banned » Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:57 pm

My attitude toward dealing with royalty has to do with tumbrels, sharp blades, and rolling heads....if you've got a so-called royal who's chappin' yer hide, give them a quick drop and a short stop. The idea that people actually listen to some fucktard because centuries ago their ancestor was the only one who hadn't got shite on him (cf "Monty Python and the Holy Grail") just blows me away.<br><br>If you find a sucker, crack his head. If you've got an island full of people who still by that anachronistic claptrap, that's their problem, isn't it?<br><br>We've got a problem here in the US with a fucktard in charge but praise the Lord we haven't had to deal with the job being hereditary and if it's necessary to do a clean wipe on the Bush genes to prevent another one from sitting in the Oval Office, I'm for it. <p></p><i></i>
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Brits, etc.

Postby rapt » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:26 am

banned, I love ya dahlin but yr last post seemed to show that you don't yet get it that Dub is there because the Queen put him there. Well maybe she didn't exactly but might just as well have.<br><br>You can't just go in there and whack off his head if he's a fraud - it takes more than that. Um, diplomacy or something like that.<br><br>Get real girl. <p></p><i></i>
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And why can't we execute them?

Postby banned » Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:12 am

They derive their power from the people. The Declaration of Independence gives us the right to get rid of them, and if they won't go when we invite them to leave, c'est la vie, as Mme. Defarge used to knit into her toilet paper cozies.<br><br>No, seriously. The Bolshies had the right idea. Put them in a cellar and spray it with rounds till they stop moving. <p></p><i></i>
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RE: ...

Postby thurnandtaxis » Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:54 am

Ted the Dog-<br><br>You asked, <br>"I mean, what does Cheney DO when he goes home at the end of the day? "<br><br>here's something i heard from an art handler I know who's done some installation at Cheney's house: he has a huge painting of something like a ram on top of a mountain over his bed.<br><br>Kind of funny, cheesely appropriate and downright scary all at the same time. <p></p><i></i>
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