Time to sing the Marseillaise?

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Time to sing the Marseillaise?

Postby jc » Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:30 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Couplet I<br>Allons enfants de la Patrie,<br>Le jour de gloire est arrivé !<br>Contre nous de la tyrannie,<br>L'étendard sanglant est levé, (bis)<br>Entendez-vous dans les campagnes<br>Mugir ces féroces soldats ?<br>Ils viennent jusque dans nos bras (2)<br>Égorger nos fils, nos compagnes !<br><br>Refrain<br>Aux armes, citoyens,<br>Formez vos bataillons,<br>Marchons, marchons !<br>Qu'un sang impur<br>Abreuve nos sillons ! …<br><br>Couplet V<br>Français, en guerriers magnanimes,<br>Portez ou retenez vos coups !<br>Épargnez ces tristes victimes,<br>À regret s'armant contre nous. (bis)<br>Mais ces despotes sanguinaires,<br>Mais ces complices de Bouillé,<br>Tous ces tigres qui, sans pitié,<br>Déchirent le sein de leur mère !<br>Refrain<br><br>Couplet VI<br>Amour sacré de la Patrie,<br>Conduis, soutiens nos bras vengeurs<br>Liberté, Liberté chérie,<br>Combats avec tes défenseurs ! (bis)<br>Sous nos drapeaux que la victoire<br>Accoure à tes mâles accents,<br>Que tes ennemis expirants<br>Voient ton triomphe et notre gloire !<br><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->translation<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Verse I<br>Arise you children of the motherland,<br>The day of glory has arrived!<br>Against us tyranny<br>Has raised its bloodied banner, (1)<br>Do you hear, in the fields<br>The howling of these fearsome soldiers?<br>They are coming into your midst (2)<br>To slit the throats of your sons and consorts!<br><br>Chorus<br>To arms, citizens!<br>Form your battalions!<br>Let us march, let us march!<br>May impure blood<br>Soak our fields' furrows!<br><br>Verse V<br>Frenchmen, as magnanimous warriors<br>Bear or hold back your blows!<br>Spare these sad victims<br>That they may regret taking up arms against us,<br>But not these bloody despots,<br>These accomplices of Bouillé,<br>All these tigers who mercilessly<br>Ripped out their mothers' breast!<br>Chorus<br><br>Verse VI<br>Sacred patriotic love<br>Lead [and] support our avenging arms<br>Liberty, cherished liberty,<br>Fight back with your defenders<br>Under our flags, let victory<br>Hurry to your manly tone<br>So that your enemies, in their last breath<br>See your triumph and our glory!<br><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://marseillaise.org/audio/mireille_mathieu_-_la_marseillaise.mp3">mireille mathieu sings La Marseillaise</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Allez! Allez! <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=jc@rigorousintuition>jc</A> at: 7/2/06 2:21 pm<br></i>
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I'll join in

Postby friend catcher » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:22 pm

Mainly because of Zidane, the sublime memory of Cantona and the take it to the streets attitude.<br><br>Allez! Allez! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Time to sing the Marseillaise?

Postby Wolfmoon Lady » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:40 pm

Of interest --<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://imv.au.dk/publikationer/pov/Issue_14/section_1/artc15A.html" target="top">Bogart's Nod in the Marseillaise Scene</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->:<br>A Physical Gesture in Casablanca<br><br>Richard Raskin <br><br><br>When the stage has been properly set, the simplest physical gesture can be charged with meaning in a film. Bogart's nod in the Marseillaise scene in Casablanca stands out as perhaps the most striking example of this important resource in cinematic storytelling, and one particularly deserving of a closer look.<br><br>The situation<br>Rick (Humphrey Bogart) and Victor Laszlo (Paul Henreid) are upstairs in Rick's office, with Laszlo offering to buy the letters of transit. Rick refuses, and in reply to Laszlo's question as to why, Rick tells him to ask his wife. They then hear German officers singing Die Wacht am Rhein in the main room below. Rick and Laszlo go out on the balcony and look down at the Germans singing. Renault is watching from the bar, his eyebrow raised. Laszlo, listening tight-lipped, finally walks down the steps and goes decisively over to the band, telling them: "Play the Marseillaise! Play it!" The band members look down, then up toward Rick, who nods to them. Having obtained Rick's approval, the band then begins to play the Marseillaise, and one of the most electrifying scenes in film history unfolds.<br><br> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Time to sing the Marseillaise?

Postby jc » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:46 pm

Yeh, see? Bogart, Cantona, and taking it to the streets. And I've always been more <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>communard</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> than communist. And Zidane and the French squad are headed for another WC title. Allez les beurs!<br><br>There's this:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"La Marseillaise" is a song written and composed by Claude Joseph Rouget de Lisle at Strasbourg on April 25, 1792. Its original name is "Chant de guerre de l'Armée du Rhin" ("Marching Song of the Rhine Army"<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> and it was dedicated to Marshall Nicolas Luckner, a Bavarian-born French officer from Cham. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>It became the rallying call of the French Revolution and got its name because it was first sung on the streets by troops (fédérés) from Marseille upon their arrival in Paris.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Now the national anthem of France, it was also once <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>the anthem of the international revolutionary movement.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Indeed, the words of "The Internationale", written in 1870 by Eugène Pottier were originally set to the tune of "La Marseillaise". During the Paris Commune (1871), that was adopted as an anthem; it was only in 1888 that Pierre Degeyter re-set "The Internationale" to the tune known today.<br><br>Because great numbers of people on the left around the world, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>particularly anarchists</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, took inspiration from the Commune, the song became an international symbol of leftism. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>For instance, in Chicago, Illinois, the Haymarket Martyrs went to their deaths singing the "Marseillaise"</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. In 1917, after the collapse of the tsarist regime "La Marseillaise" and "The Internationale" were both used as de facto anthems of Russia.[1][2] Within a few years "The Internationale" gradually prevailed and became the only anthem. The Russian lyrics of "Marseillaise", "Otrechemsya ot starogo mira", are very different from the French lyrics; both French and Russian lyrics were sung in Russia.<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The song was banned in Vichy France and German-occupied areas during World War II and singing it was an act of resistance (see also Chant des Partisans). </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->It was also banned under the French Empire: the France of Napoléon and Napoléon III either used different anthems or no anthem at all for the period of 1799 to 1870.<br><br>"La Marseillaise" was re-arranged by Hector Berlioz around 1830.<br>In 1882, Pyotr Tchaikovsky used extensive quotes from the Marseillaise to represent the invading French army in his 1812 Overture. This was an anachronism, as the Marseillaise was the French anthem in Tchaikovsky's day, but not Napoleon's.<br><br>In France itself, the anthem (and particularly the lyrics) has become a somewhat controversial issue since the 1970s. Some consider it militaristic and xenophobic, and many propositions have been made to change the anthem or the lyrics. However, "La Marseillaise" has been associated throughout history with the French Republic and its values, making a change unlikely.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Recently, and despite the lyrics, it was largely sung by anti-racist protesters after Jean-Marie Le Pen advanced to the second round of the 2002 presidential election.<br></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Marseillaise">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Marseillaise</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>and from WML's link above:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>an early idealistic period, when - as both Renault and Victor Laszlo point out - <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Rick ran guns to the Ethiopians and fought on the loyalist side in the Spanish civil war, earning himself a place of honor on the Nazis' blacklist</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->;<br><br>a central period, filling most of the present of the film, characterized largely by a cynical and selfish neutrality, as expressed by the line spoken twice by Rick - "I stick my neck out for nobody"; yet even here, there are flashes of profound integrity, as when Rick tells Ferrari (Sidney Greenstreet) that he doesn't buy or sell human beings; presumably, Rick's fall into cynicism was triggered by what he experienced as a betrayal at the Paris railroad station when he received Ilsa's farewell note;<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>a final period, in which Rick overcomes his selfish and self-pitying stance and returns to the fight against oppression.<br></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Allons!<br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=jc@rigorousintuition>jc</A> at: 7/2/06 1:52 pm<br></i>
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Re: Time to sing the Marseillaise?

Postby Mentalgongfu » Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:37 am

I don't mean to be obtuse, as I'm a fan of the Marseillaise, but why should we be singing it? Are we starting the revolution now? If so, it's about damn time.<br><br>On edit: Oh, I see. It's World Cup Fever again. Devastating disease. Of course, it's only harmful if your team loses. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=mentalgongfu@rigorousintuition>Mentalgongfu</A> at: 7/3/06 12:13 am<br></i>
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Re: Time to sing the Marseillaise?

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:05 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>And Zidane and the French squad are headed for another WC title. Allez les beurs!<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Only cos we got robbed. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Time to sing the Marseillaise?

Postby jc » Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:22 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Are we starting the revolution now? <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>did it ever end? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Time to sing the Marseillaise?

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:40 am

Especially when they lose the way mine did. <p></p><i></i>
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les bleus

Postby blanc » Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:57 am

incroyable, mais vrai!<br>sorry for bumping this up, but hooda thunk it? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: les bleus

Postby Gouda » Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:04 am

Would not have thought either france or italy after the first two weeks. Pardonez-moi blanc, but I'll have to say: "forza italia!" (Not <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>that</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> Forza Italia, of course.) I have a very significant italian other who will be exerting tender pressure on my loyalty... <p></p><i></i>
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one more Zidane

Postby friend catcher » Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:41 am

The 'Auld Alliance' demands I root for France. Hope Zidane pulls it off and tells Le Pen and his inbred cronies where to put their heads. Could never root for Italy, too corrupt.<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/4993482.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/...993482.stm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> and wtf was this about <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-2245827,00.html">www.timesonline.co.uk/art...27,00.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=friendcatcher>friend catcher</A> at: 7/6/06 5:44 am<br></i>
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Re: one more Zidane

Postby Gouda » Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:00 am

In the end, it's just 2 hours of merciful distraction (hopefully graced with some uncorrupted, beautiful football) from the wider running atrocity. How long do these newfound love afairs with one's nation really last? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: one more Zidane

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:34 am

What is it about Italians and falling over.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >: --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/mad.gif ALT=">:"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The Italian World Cup team in Germany, which beat Australia 1-0 last night to reach the quarter-finals of the building, cut short a press conference after news of Pessotto's hospitalisation reached them.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Yeah thanks for bringing back that particular memory.<br><br>I guess i am going for France, and I hope they win with an obvious dive in the 93 rd minute.<br><br>Or by 6 goals. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: one more Zidane

Postby Gouda » Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:35 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>What is it about Italians and falling over?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> heh, good question. hypersensitive? hypertheatrical? I shall inquire further on that and hopefully get back to the board with an answer... <p></p><i></i>
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