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Re: Everybody take a deep breath.

Postby JerkyLeBoeuf » Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:27 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>My current employer, as just one example. I may not be losing the skin off my feet, but I am slowly losing touch with what is really important in life, as they continually crank up the work volume with no end in sight.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>See? <br><br>Now THIS is someone who has taken my post in the spirit in which it was intended!<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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TSR

Postby HMKGrey » Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:00 am

Bismillah said:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I think some people on this board would do well to take a step back and look at what this wallowing in horror is doing to them.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Um, no wallowing in horror going on here. I know it's out there but I'm not fascinated by it or scared of it, if that's where you're coming from. <br><br>As for the 'ballsachingly obvious' I think some people on this board might do well to take a step back and try to get a grip on the fact that we're fucked. Yes, fucked. And the only way out of this mess is probably going to involve some real fucking ugliness. 'Wish I could say that a bit of chanting and xeroxing would get the job done but - sorry pal - it ain't. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: TSR

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:06 am

Trouble, and beauty, everywhere you look.<br><br>Jerky, I like your image.<br><br>Not because i am into that sort of thing, but because that is the challenge of life.<br><br>Keep walking even when the sandpaper has worn your feet down past your ankles.<br><br>Maybe that worldview only appeals to stubborn masochistic nuts like me.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>'Wish I could say that a bit of chanting and xeroxing would get the job done but - sorry pal - it ain't.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>That may well be true, but its no reason to stop chanting (dunno about xeroxing, that ink is pretty toxic isn't it.)<br><br>Everyone forgets we don't get out of here alive. there is only one way out of here and its in a coffin.<br><br>The real ugliness is already here, and its gonna spread.<br><br>I just heard a news report (JJJ 3 pm news) Israel is back on the job in E Lebanon. That was a quick 48 hours.<br><br>that story about the mother monkey is sad HMK. But kind of understandable. Lockked in a cage with just trouble, no beauty...<br><br>What a bastard of a place to be.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Hey Joe

Postby HMKGrey » Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:20 am

'Glad you're back. <br><br>How's your slice of paradise holding up? <p></p><i></i>
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meaning of love

Postby blanc » Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:42 am

er HMK GREY<br>men in white coats who 'experiment' to see under what level of cruelty love breaks down, don't know a from a bull's foot about what love is. only lesson from that 'experiment' is shoot a sadist and the world will be a tiny bit better.<br>so I was pissed off about what I correctly assumed to be your assumptions in the 'lessons' line and wanted to suggest you thought again about that.<br><br>Jerky, lucky for you you don't really think like that, its just a game. You actually cheered me up at the time, on a really bad day, massacre in lebanon on news, proof from unexpected source that those who tortured those I love and set about wrecking my life were the dark actors whose identity I'd so far just guessed at, and a dose of Dutroux testimony. I was starting to feel like I'd fallen into the abyss. then I read the post - sandpaper room. and I thought hey compared to that guy I'm dancing along the edge with a cloud of butterflies in my flowing locks. how ghastly to feel like that. glad you don't.<br><br>life has no 'meaning' you might as well ask 'what's the 'meaning' of weather. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: ok

Postby havanagilla » Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:46 am

ok taken from this angle, the discussion seems appropriate, but it could have been stated clearly in the outset. I remember my handler once telling me a grizly story about an experiment on frogs, who are put into pot of water and the heat is gradually increases, can't remember the details, but the bottom line was that this ensures they don't jump out and in fact die there. <br>--<br>It seems that there are attempts to apply biological psychology, as the nazis did, on humans, to "numb" our instincts of self defence and preservation. So, what is the advice ? If it feels like they want to kill you, believe yourself, and run away or attack. Namely, to trust ourselves and the instincts in the face of lulling..<br><br>In political terms ? we can see yesterday's demonstration in Mexico (1 million !) against the stolen elections, vs, the faint gasping in canada (re harper) and certainly the silence of the lambs in the USA, re Bush. In Israel, the situation is even worse, the sheep are greeting the butchers with flowers and hugs. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: ok

Postby 4911 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:24 am

well that isnt the only room in life.<br><br>There are other rooms...maybe we should check which ones were going to enter before we enter.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Hey Joe

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:43 am

HMK, I'm doing ok. I was hoping to have upgraded my computer by now, thats shitting me, as is the beginnings of a full on fascist assault on my part of the world. The last 10 to 15 years have been pretty cool, but the war on drugs is about to hot up.<br><br>Given this whole part of the world exists because of the black market dope economy we are in for it.<br><br>At the moment i heard that the undercover filth are everywhere in nimbin. Its enough to make me wanna get back into the ole guerrilla gardening.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> I heard the other day that there are 4 to 5 hundred registered police informants in Nimbin. Fuckers.<br><br>They coppers have been working with dole office investigators, ASIO, the tax office and fuck knows who else.<br><br>There was a small plane flying grids over the entire area today, about 1500 feet. Could be doing aerial photos. Tho I know a bloke that has a plane (no licence tho, but he's well crazy and doesn't care about administrative bullshit,) who flies around here checking his patches are invisible from the air.<br><br>I guess this is a good time to do the aerial stuff, middle of winter, dope patches that are long term are probably being prepared now, or may even have little babys in them. Little green spotys in big mulched patches in thge bush are a bit of a give away.<br><br>Its about to get ugly again.<br><br>Still a great time in paradise tho. Its the middle of winter and 20 degrees C on a cold day. been busy tho, a mate is building extensions to his house so I have been doing a bit of building. Its been good, learned how to build sand, cement and sawdust building helping him rebuild hid old shack over the last year. Cheap way to build a house.<br><br>My mate had his 50th the other night. A party at the local shop, 2 or 300 people turned up. Going home about 5 in the morning I got to the front gate and someone had left a burnt copy of Spearhead's "Yell Fire" in the rusty old milk container that passes for the letterbox.<br><br>More of that trouble and beauty. Seems to be in a fair balance most of the time, even way out of balance in favour of the beauty if I ignore the media and the EM sky.<br><br>A bit like the frog story Hava.<br><br>The supposed truth of that story is that certain frogs can be placed in cold/room temperature water, and that water heated. It can be brought to the boil and the frog will sit inside and eventually boil. Apparantly if the temperature increases slowly the frog will adjust and do nothing, letting itself be boiled alive.<br><br>However my wife has just mentioned that she heard that story was disproven, (tho what arsehole would do that I dunno, imagine setting out to prove or disprove that... by boiling frogs). Recently.<br><br>Hope you are staying fairly safe in psycho land where everyone bombs each other, well blokes in power and fucked up kids bomb everyone else. Take care. Hope you get some real peace there soon. <p></p><i></i>
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RE: Hey Joe

Postby HMKGrey » Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:17 pm

It's funny that you should mention feeling like there's an imminent fascist assault on your part of the world Joe. I've been feeling that way about California lately and I know people in London who feel like things are hotting up there too. <br><br>Just routine stuff: cops everywhere, speeding tickets given out like they're going out of fashion, more cops in neighborhoods, bigger police response to small issues... a growing sense that things are being bolted down. <br><br>Maybe I'm just paranoid. <br><br>On the flip side, I was at the World Cup a coupla weeks back and the atmosphere was incredible. One big party. It was enough to give you goose bumps just wandering around Berlin and Munich. It's all cliched of course but people from all over the world really were coming together and having a great time, partying, sharing water and shade, singing, dancing... it was like an antidote to all this that's going on now. My only regret was that I didn't have my kids with me! Seriously. They would have loved it. Even my wife thought it was fantastic/out of this world and she'd been dreading it. And here's the thing... the policing was invisible. I mean, it was so in the background you didn't notice it. We were there for 8 days went to a QF and both semi's and we didn't see one moment of ugliness. Human beings at their best. <br><br>Who'd have thunk?<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: RE: Hey Joe

Postby 4911 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:46 pm

Ah shit, wouldve liked to meet you. Contact me before you come back to munich again, wouldja? Could have shown you the city... <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=4911>4911</A> at: 7/31/06 4:22 pm<br></i>
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Re: RE: Hey Joe

Postby dugoboy » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:32 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>It seems that there are attempts to apply biological psychology, as the nazis did, on humans, to "numb" our instincts of self defence and preservation.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>exactly right, but its beyond attempts, its been in process ever since the reich fell. its happening right now. <br><br>and HMKGrey:<br><br>thats how the system is supposed to work, we police ourselves. is that good or bad? i'd tend to say it is bad but both sides of the argument have their points. <br><br>but back to the numbing thing. it takes a second to fully appreciate what that means. and i know what the answer is, i honestly know we all do, but the system (in whatever form it takes) works to decieve us into forgetting the answer. <br><br>but, here is what the answer is: <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>its feeling everything and its about being present and aware in the current moment. and then you follow whatever it tells you. preferably you should be as highly aware as you can, taking into full account of how things work and how 'fucked' we are. i think everyone would be amazed at what happens.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> you take what you feel and fear and you work towards a positive outcome, not a self destructive response. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>the truth is doing nothing is a self destructive response.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br>we only have so much time before the torture chamber is complete. they are working towards a planetary solution. thats what globalization is about, its just the macro economic aspect of the 'solution'.<br><br>so i dunno, i don't write much anymore here because its at the point where are we going to do something about all this? or will we just keep going and blow ourselves the fuck up? <br><br>maybe i expect too much from people so then maybe i shouldn't hope for much because of that? and if so i'm just gonna enjoy the time we have left.<br><br>but, in the end its about how much people expect from themselves and the system the elites have created works to numb us up, dumb us down and if all goes according to plan we destroy ourselves while they sip on margarita's on the beach.<br><br>it's about realizing the unlimited potential every human has, the elite have done this but they have done it toward the negative aspects of that potential.<br><br>but if we don't 'learn the lesson' before then, i'd say to all of you and the rest of humanity, and me ofcourse, enjoy the fireworks while they last. our way of life is nearing its close. <p>___________________________________________<br>"BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT." -Me<br><br>"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A> at: 7/31/06 8:40 pm<br></i>
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re: re: Re: RE: Hey Joe :re:

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:40 pm

I know these mountains and California both have reputations for supplying the black market with products.<br><br>The war on drugs is the archetype for fascism. Seizure laws, sniffer dogs in public. Police searches without warrant (via helicopter). they are all par for the course really. And although I still choof I haven't done the seed in the ground thing yet this year. That side of it doesn't realy bother me.<br><br>What is disturbing is the data matching and use of multiple gov agencies to attack, well basically hippies and dumb kids who do too much meth. Thats thew thing about Nimbin, its a big tourist town, and backpackers from Europe, the US, and tourists from Asia all go there.<br><br>There are kids in Nimbin whop drop out of high school cos they can go out onto the street and make hundreds of dollars a day dealing pot to tourists at rip off prices.<br><br>These kids are targetted by the dole office and the cops. they are supposed to be getting the dole 3 or 400 bucks a fortnight. So if they get busted with cash then they are assumed to be dealing and assumed to be in breach of their "mutual obligation" to inform the dole office of any extra money they make.<br><br>Fair enough that all those tax payers shouldn't be supporting people who are not struggling for cash. Fair enough that the cops bust drug dealers too.<br><br>But when tpt suck start using multiple agencies to attack people without following the standard protections that 1000 years of common law are supposed to provide (I know thats a crock, but its the lie we base our society on), thats a very bad sign.<br><br>3 years ago when we took the Nimbin demons AFL side to its first ever grand final, we went from winning one game the previous season, to losing the Grannie cos we were too wrapped at being there (If we had won it would have been 13 games in a row, bloody 13), the effect it had on the town was crazy. We could walk into town get free anything at the cafes and pub, kids would be offering us cones as we walked down the street. The cops would wave to us and say well done...<br><br>Funny how sport brings people together. We become aware of what is REALLY important (winning of course <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ). No what really struck me was that we would go out, get smashed up, run our guts out for 2 to 3 hours, and half the town would turn up to watch, win or lose. Because they loved the courage and committment we showed each other and the jumper we were wearing (a jumper that represented the town - all of them.)<br><br>There were people there that spoke to each other at Nimbin games who hadn't talked to each other for 10 - 20 years. Being at the ground in each others company forced them to be civil and in some cases rebuilt friendships that were considered dead.<br><br>I got a similar sense from the world cup.<br><br>but I am still bitter.<br><br>If bloody Gatto hadn't taken that dive over Vince Neil who knows what would have happened. Bloody Italians... I still pay out my Italian friends about their great diving skills and propensity to fall over at the right moment. The worse part is it was 10 seconds before extra time. Not only were we robbed of a chance to go to the semi's, we were actually robbed of watching extra time in a really close and intense game (Thats what really pisses me off). At 4 am that is not a good thing to have happen. PS In that game Tim Cahill had a chance to do exactly what Gatto (I think thats his name, you know who I am talking about), but leapt the defender and tried to actually score. Guess thats the difference between playing the game and playing to win.<br><br>Rant rant rant.<br><br>Apart from that the world cup was great.<br><br>But it seems to be every year.<br><br>There is something about it that brings people together. Anyone born today has a chance to play in the world cup and win it off their own boot. (If we last that long). There is something beautiful about that, its like that sense of possibilty we have as kids, that we can do anything and shake the world with our footsteps (in a good way), do what is physically impossible, or seems physically impossible. Just to show off. So other people can go "Wow, I wonder if I can do that."<br><br>I am glad you had a great time in germany.<br><br>Hows Zidane BTW<br><br>That was a great headbutt, and lets face it, if he really wanted to be nasty about it, he would have hit the guy in the nose with his forehead, not in the chest.<br><br>I know there is no excuse for that sort of behaviour, but personally I think he did the right thing, and wore the consequences. Sure sledging is a part of football, the point being to distract you from the game. It is a test of mental toughness. But that doesn't mean your opponent can stoop to any level to mess with your head. You have to have dignity about your behaviour, no matter what you do.<br><br>Mattarazzo or whatever his name was didn't act with dignity and neither did Zidane, but if Mattarazzo had a bit more couth, or picked an insult that made fun of Z's ugly head or inability to play, neither player would have lost their dignity.<br><br>Then again 10 minutes to go in extra time in a World Cup final. That would be a pressure situation. Dunno how well I'd cope. <p></p><i></i>
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