Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:30 pm

drstrangelove » Wed May 11, 2022 6:43 pm wrote:I need to finish and get away from this shit, it's thoroughly unpleasant.


It is important to take breaks, especially in this end of the pool. Great work in this thread but it is corrosive work, a poison that builds up in the bloodstream, a pressure in the back of the eyes.

Granted, it's always good procedure to take time off and come back with fresh eyes, but especially for this shit.
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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby drstrangelove » Mon Aug 15, 2022 2:17 am

The Delta Project and the Hermes Connection
John David Norman continued the Odyssey Network from prison under a new cutout foundation, The Delta Project. He did this with the help of a young inmate he met, who would just so happen to also work for the serial killer John Wayne Gacy at the time. The Delta Project advertised in the sadomasochist 'chickenhawk' magazine Hermes, financed by a Michigan based Millionaire from an old money family who owned a private island, called North Fox Island.
https://thehotstar.net/deltaproject_hermes.html

^ just a bridging piece. I should be able to post the rest of the write-ups pretty quickly, which trace a connection of this network all the way through to Dutroux and the Apollo snuff ring in Amsterdam during the 1990s, which is where Francis Shelden ended up in pedophile exile.
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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby Harvey » Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:27 pm

Just re-read the first two together with your latest. Excellent work. Probably has the makings of a book somewhere down the line, especially because of your tracing the lineage of these 'customs' which could, I think, usefully be developed/expanded further. Of course, you probably want to spend your time as far away from this material as possible... Part two of the series suffers only from a few sporadic punctuation, spelling or grammatical errors (it was done in a rush I seem to recall) but the article itself is very well done. Thanks for your efforts! I'm particularly grateful for the links to Stead's series of articles, I was looking for them a few years ago but couldn't find them.
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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby drstrangelove » Mon Aug 15, 2022 2:38 pm

Yeah I'll run through an editing process after the entire thing is drafted out. The problem was there was no deadend. Usually this kind of research fizzles out and that's your endpoint. Problem here was the opposite. Same names keep popping up in completely unrelated sources. Gotta get what you have down fast while it's fresh and quickly move on.
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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby drstrangelove » Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:24 pm

North Fox Island: The Politics of Organised Vice Part 4
A private island apart of the estate of an old money philanthropist named Francis Duffield Shelden became the focal point of a 1976 investigation into a child porn ring spanning from state to state, coast to coast, right across the United States.
- https://thehotstar.net/northfoxisland.html

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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:03 pm

The last two installments have been superb, grateful for your time and fresh eyes.

The "Children's Nudist Camp Vermont" from the Gerald Richards network map is almost definitely Farm & Wilderness, which has always been plagued by rumors but never rocked by actual scandals. They were clothing optional for decades but started toning that policy down in the 80's before abandoning it altogether.

The Arizona connection is very curious -- do you have any sense of who "D.S." was?

Farm and Wilderness honcho Kenneth B. Webb did publish a doggerel celebration of nudism, including photos of his campers, in the magazine Solaire Universelle de Nudisme. When he left Farm and Wilderness, he started an outfit in Milton Vermont called "Forest City Lodge" -- which some nudist history outlets claim never happened due to lack of interest but this is flatly false; indeed, it is still going today as Coventry Club & Resort. Also a potential suspect.
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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby drstrangelove » Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:01 pm

This is the legend to the diagram. D.S. = Donald Sandberg. This name, like most on the list, never appeared in what were released of the police reports. It appears these connections were 'redacted' but photocopies of Richards diagram made it into evidence for the congressional inquiry back in 1977, which is where these are found.

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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby drstrangelove » Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:25 pm

Actually Donald Sandberg is mentioned on page 22 of the following police file - https://thehotstar.net/files/northfoxis ... 220027.pdf
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Postby drstrangelove » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:19 am

Troop 137: The Politics of Organised Vice Part 5
Reels of child pornography discovered in a broken down commercial film processing machine was traced to the leaders of a Boy Scout Troop in New Orleans, who had been running a child prostitution service for out of state politicians.
https://thehotstar.net/troop137.html
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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby guruilla » Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:19 am

The Liminalist # 299.5: Where Pathology Finds a Home (Ted Bundy: the Untold Story)
September 6, 2022

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Two-episode, 3.5 hr conversation with George K and Thomas Myrtle, on the deep, dark background of Theodore Bundy. (Scroll down for second episode.)

Episode One

Part One: Narrative Wars (0 – 39 mins)

A diversion into darkness, the conspiratorial perspective vs. the mainstream, narrative wars, the need to exclude data to maintain coherence, losing the old narratives before establishing new ones, Bundy background, Bundy timeline, Anne Burr as possible first victim, killers created vs. killers recruited, Bundy’s early years, Bundy’s possible intelligence training.

Part Two: Blooding (39 mins – 1 hr 19 mins)

When the killing began, the mind control spectrum, Methodist-military overlaps, born into murder networks, when pathology finds a home, the self-hollowing process, desensitization to killing, getting toughened up, the satanic pursuit of power and pleasure, Sebastian Horsley & Jimmy Boyle, the vice of kings, society’s homicidal pillars, was Bundy caught or thrown to the wolves?, covering up cult murder, when did Ted’s luck turn?, Elizabeth Loftus: satanic asset, Thomas Creed & cult connections, Bundy/Oswald parallels.

Part Three: Warring Factions (1 hr 19 mins – end)

The complexity of the counter-narrative, was Bundy protected or set-up, or both?, warring factions over Bundy’s fate, creating a back-up patsy, Bundy’s autonomy & competency, Ben Meyers and the Colorado Grand Junction murders, Julie Cunningham, the Bundy/Meyer mirror & the Northwestern pipeline.

Cavdef on Bundy

George’s Talk on The Farm


2nd audio: A Knot of Tragedy

Part One: Cheating Occam’s Razor (0 – 40 mins)

Back to Grand Junction & the CIA, drug traffic and cattle mutilation, Debra Kent & the non-random-victim problem, Donna Manson’s links to occultism and Silva mind control, Richard Alan Miller & MKULTRA, Kimberley Leach, tying disparate threads together, when scapegoating doesn’t work, pitting the have-nots against the have-nots, maintenance of social engineering, Chi Omega: Bundy’s improbable rampage, forensic evidence of another perpetrator, spiking the jury, Emil Spillman & William Joseph Bryan, fake arguments to resolve cognitive dissonance, the temptation to defer judgment, cheating Occam’s razor.

Part Two: More Buried Anomalies (40 mins – 1 hr 22 mins)

Setting Ted up again, closing the book on a host of murders with one shaky conviction, Bundy’s military-provided fake ID, Martin Luther King & James Earl Ray, Chi Omega background, Anne Rule & the Fraser family, Eglin Air Force base, Adam Starchild, Ron Auth, Strategic Air Command network, buried anomalies that raise up false narratives, Bundy’s complicity with the cover-story, edited tapes, Bundy’s own cognitive dissonance shaping the narrative, carrot & whip jail leverage, Richard Speck, Florida State Prison serial killers retirement home, Vote Here, Ralph Munroe Bundy-backer, Stanley Baker & the Process Church.

Part Three: A Circle in the Sand (1 hr 22 mins – end)

Cavdef & election integrity, a moral duty to rig elections, Dominion, Trump’s utility as a tool of division, QAnon & RussiaGate as complementary “trust the plan” psyop, the reverse-marketing of Trump, Trump Derangement Syndrome vs Trump Apologist Syndrome, being re-herded back into the matrix, id vs. superego, choose your brand of derangement, resisting the pull of consensus, community connections, mediated people in a global village, the quest for truth and discomfort, going against programming, a ripple effect, finding the redeemable in Bundy, breaking the cycle of violence, a knot of tragedy.
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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby drstrangelove » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:35 pm

North Fox Island and The Oakland County Child Killings: The Politics of Organised Vice Part 6
The murders of two boys in 1976 and '77 were linked to pedophiles involved with Francis Shelden's child porn operation, including one who was the son of General Motors executive.
https://thehotstar.net/occk.html
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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby Marionumber1 » Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:40 pm

These articles are great, drstrangelove. I've largely been away from RI for a while but I'm catching up and am really glad to see your continuing output on this topic (dark as it is). You've done a really good job laying out the many interlinked pedophile networks of the 70s, and providing solid sourcing for everything.

And Jasun, thanks for sharing the podcast that you, me, and Thomas did last month. I hope it serves people well as an introduction to the hidden history of the Ted Bundy case (and other similar and related ones).
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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby Harvey » Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:02 pm

I was very impressed with the new article and the discussions, both extremely clear, informative, and strangely current. Thanks for your efforts doc, marion and guru.
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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby drstrangelove » Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:36 am

appreciate the feedback. the most interesting thing i've come across is Gerald Richards mention of the networks philosophy being that of the Dorian tradition. Dorians being the founding fathers of Spartan culture diffused from the island of Crete, which serves as the totalitarian/authoritarian roots in the Western tradition by way of Plato, whose family were spartan oligarchs. but also from crete you get the greek mystery cults which sacrificed and ate children, and the symbol of the double axe, or labrys, a key symbol used by 20th century fascist groups.

those who have deep dived the dutroux case know that many of the powerful people implicated in the killings had been key figures behind neo-fascist groups. you turn to Michigan in the 1970s and you have this culture of elite families begot of the automotive industry, that is Ford and General Motors. One controlled by a man whose portrait hung on Hitler's wall, the other by a family who backed a fascist coup in the United States.

it's not so much pedophilia, or 'boylove', but gratification from dominating small children. it is any wonder politicians, those personality types with an insatiable desire for control, willingly compromise themselves to access the services these child abuse rings provide in exchange for leverage.

of course this is just one of the many aspects to a very complicated modern phenomenon.
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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby Marionumber1 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:19 pm

I have a new article out on the Ted Bundy case today, going deep on the Colorado and organized crime connections. A follow-up about the bizarre John Antonopoulos (who I met last year) is in progress.

Sunday, October 2, 2022
Ted Bundy Didn't Act Alone: Down the Grand Junction, Colorado Rabbit Hole

When it comes to America's most famous "serial killers", there tends to be substantial intrigue lurking just below the undisputed conventional narrative. In case after case, there's a surprising number of largely-buried facts casting doubt on whether said murderers are truly guilty of all the crimes laid at their feet, or whether they acted alone for the ones they did commit. Many of these anomalous details show up in the authoritative books, TV shows, etc. that chronicle these killers, but are presented as nothing more than interesting factoids with no greater meaning, and gradually disappear from the public consciousness entirely.

Consider the infamous John Wayne Gacy, who was convicted of murdering 33 young men and boys in Chicago during the 70s. There's no doubt Gacy was a monstrous, unrepentant murderer. Yet it's clear, especially in recent years, that Gacy did not work alone. Chicago TV network WGN aired two stories on this in 2012, showing how certain employees/business associates of Gacy evidently helped lure some of the victims while another murder occurred when Gacy was proven to be out of town. A subsequent WGN piece in 2016 made the startling revelation that one Gacy employee was the second-in-command of a Chicago-based nationwide pedophile network; and Gacy was aware of that employee's ties to child sex trafficking. The founder of this ring previously ran a similar operation in Dallas whose clients included "prominent people", making it likely that he maintained a similar client base after moving to Chicago. As it happened, the politically-connected Gacy, who was directly linked to the founder's right-hand man, was keeping a sexual blackmail file on "politician, sports figures, county and city employee[s]".

Besides Gacy, one of the other most prominent US serial killers is Ted Bundy. Officially responsible for murdering dozens of women and girls throughout the United States, he is many people's go-to image of a sociopathic killer, hiding behind the mask of a charming and attractive young man. And for most people, the idea that Bundy wasn't solely responsible for all the murders he's accused of would never even cross their mind. No one could believe something that outlandish, unless maybe they have a demented crush on the man. Right? But the prior example of Gacy is a cautionary tale that sometimes what we all "know" to be true isn't true at all.

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