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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby drstrangelove » Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:33 pm

great to see you put something long form out. i'll read it soon when i have a day free to go through it properly.
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Postby drstrangelove » Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:57 pm

just a heads up as well, the blackstone group now controls newspapers.com through its acquisition of ancestry.com. i've been downloading and hardsaving all the articles i've been using in case the memory hole starts getting dug.
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Postby Marionumber1 » Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:43 pm

Yeah, I have definitely been getting more careful about saving a copy of every newspaper clipping I make. I also need to go back through a lot of the things I've clipped previously (must be hundreds or even thousands at this point) and make sure I've saved those also. Thank you for the reminder and heads-up.

By the way, I have finally obtained a copy of the "A Smuggler's Life" article on Richard Lawson: https://imgur.com/a/0OABNXy Nothing insanely revelatory but some interesting hints of what Lawson was up to: especially the several American expats playing key roles in the smuggling network (reeks of intelligence, in my view), the numerous times Lawson got busted for smuggling with no charges, and Lawson's later dealings with the feds around 2002.
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Postby drstrangelove » Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:16 am

nice work. clear pattern established between the 1975 'killing season' victims. 1. a drug dealer's wife. 2. a year later her sister. 3. a few months later the sister's friend. 4. then finally the babysitter of the sister and her friend. 1, 2, 3, 4.

that's one interconnected cluster of murders it is reasonable to assume are related with victims who can be connected to both local law enforcement and criminals, distinction between the two only made for clarity's sake.

then you got the 'bundy murders' that same year as separate cluster. victims seemingly didn't know each other, which means you could subscribe to the random killings of a serial killer's MO. although the connection to local law enforcement is present again.

have you looked into what kind of DNA evidence was used to subsequently link "Killing Season" murders to criminals in the DNA database? often times, as I found in the OCCK case, the term "DNA Match" can mean anything from a match against the dna profile of an individual to one found in 5% of caucasian males for instance. I think the chain of custody for DNA evidence is so precarious i usually straight up ignore it in cold cases, as i do the results of polygraphs.

on a purely intuitive level, and without having to attend to the burden of further evidence, what do you think the deal is with Bundy? seems a patsy non doubt, but in what sense? the motive for killing season murders seems to be tying up loose ends? But then the other murders do appear to be classically 'serial killer' - that is- motiveless. As if Bundy is magically summoned to colorado to muddy the waters in a bunch of killings possibly attributable to local LE.

gacy was a patsy also, but it's a little more clear how he fits into things. his house was used as a burial ground for a mixture of victims to launder murders in a common grave. i'll soon release something on this, but a portion of these victims were probably killed in snuff films given their age and the John Norman connection, while others were perhaps killed to cover up a connection to a pedophile ring within the Maryville Academy, a catholic foster home for wards of the state in Chicago. In regards to the snuff films there was a Dallas professor who went on Alternative Views around 1980 after releasing a short local news docu called 'Boys 4 Sale'. He described the nature of what was happening to young boys in houston and dallas around that time, and said once boys hit their mid to late teens they'd become less desirable, meaning less profitable, and be forced into more extreme forms of sex. many would disappear or be murdered. which is why you get these victims in their mid to late teens, a little above the age these pedophiles lust after. they use them for sex until they are too old, then snuff them for profit like old milk cows. to do this there's a local sadist involved - Corll in Houston, Gacy in Chicago, or Robert Moore in Michigan(maybe), who happily facilitate or participate in this and ultimately take the fall.

the evidence is there and it all makes sense. but with Bundy while the evidence is there, i can't make sense of it. perhaps i should just wait for you release more :thumbsup

also greatly appreciate you tracking down 'a smuggler's life'. an LA vice cop had been investigating a child murder ring in the 1970s which had been smuggling mexican children into the united states in 'specially customized cars' for "super sadist' clientele to murder. quite literally 'Hostel' movie plotline. this same vice cop had also stated a snuff film featuring a victim of dean corll's had been screened at LA watch parties at that time.

then got richard lawson in michigan during this same period, operating with a group of child traffickers/pornographers well connected to the automotive industry there, involved in smuggling kids over the canadian border. then it turns out he obviously has LA human trafficking connections as well.

believe it or not, through John Norman and Francis Shelden, there is a continuity between the following cases which can be weaved into a narrative:
Dean Corll murders (Link to John Norman) > North Fox Island/OCCK(John Norman link to Francis Shelden through Hemres) > John Wayne Gacy(Norman link to Gacy through Paske) > The British Pedophile Dossier(Francis Shelden's link to Spartacus through PAN) > Apollo Snuff ring in Amsterdam (Spartacus link to Warwick Spinks through Club Spartacus, Francis Shelden's link to Amsterdam) > Rolodex Affair/Dutroux

kind of crazy, but when you think about it, not really. those families who have come to form the oligarchy of industrial society, at least in western civilization which is its cradle, have clearly taken extreme measures to ensure that institutions built up beneath them remain obedient. and i have come to believe it is actually immoral to engage with political systems beyond the local level of community because of this. modern political culture needs to die. it can't reform. it shouldn't be validated through participation. it doesn't need to be fought. fighting it only strengthens it. as the great carroll quigley writes:

any organization functions effectively only against organizations which operate in terms similar to itself. every organization functions only when it can influence or control the moment-to-moment lives of concrete individuals. it is, in fact, impossible for any organization to do this except to the extent that the society as a mass of people tacitly accepts and supports, not only the legitimacy of what is being done in any case, but the assumptions behind the organizing principles of the organization itself.
it might be stated as a general rule that any organization functions only with and against those who accept its basic principles of organization and values.


and so the entire concept of controlled opposition, is just plainly opposition itself. much more dangerous to a government than a citizens militia would be an opt-out community like jonestown. funny that.
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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby drstrangelove » Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:43 pm

do you know if the entire set of files relating to tones cited in this article are available: https://www.unlimitedbliss.net/post/gac ... publicized

trying to figure out if this is inventory seized from Gacy's house on the 13th December or on the second on the 21st December.



you have any idea which
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Postby Marionumber1 » Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:48 am

The "killing season" pattern actually gets even more incriminating with Deborah Tomlinson, the young woman killed in the last couple days of 1975. My follow-up blog article (still in progress; in fact I'm still investigating aspects of it right now) will go into the many suspicious details on Deborah's murder. Some of the weirdest details include:

  • Grand Junction cop Dave Schumacher, who was likely one of Linda Miracle's boyfriends and later shot a civilian to death (predictably with no consequences), lived in the apartment right above Deborah
  • Deborah appeared, by numerous witness accounts, to be dealing drugs, seemingly at the behest of her uncle
  • Her father was being targeted by the mafia, apparently trying to make him give up some land that he owned, and both she and him had experienced physical danger (such as being run off the road) in the months leading up to her murder
  • John Antonopoulos, the purported citizen investigator who I met in 2020 and initially worked with throughout 2021, shows multiple signs of being a person-of-interest in Deborah's case

In the meantime, here are the heavily-redacted GJPD records: https://archive.org/details/DeborahTomlinson_GJPD

You raise good questions about the DNA; I myself have been skeptical too. The GJPD offered to send me their DNA analysis in addition to the records I linked, but at the time, it was too expensive for me. Now that I've saved up a bit more money I will order it. Not letting DNA occupy too much significance in old unsolved cases like these is a solid practice, as it never tells the whole story even when it is handled correctly. For instance, even with the alleged DNA match to Jerry Nemnich in Linda Benson's murder, there was also an unidentified sample which was downplayed by the prosecution at trial. And even if these people like Nemnich or Jimmy Dean Duncan (the latter conveniently deceased since 1987) were involved in the murders, that doesn't rule out that they were part of something bigger.

To your question about what Bundy's true role was: First of all, I think that many of his alleged victims who supposedly just fit the classic serial killer profile (random victims within the killer's demographic group of interest) were actually targeted for specific reasons. This is true of his crimes even before Colorado. Donna Gail Manson (see the RI thread I have on her), a Pacific Northwest victim, was into occult topics, and was researching them for her college class with an adviser named Richard Alan Miller who was directly linked to MKUltra. In my blog post I discuss one of Bundy's alleged Utah victims Debra Kent, whose real murderer is likely not Bundy but instead a local drug distributor named Ronald Dennis Auth. Auth moved massive volumes (in the tens of millions if not hundreds of millions) of Colombian marijuana in the Caribbean, during the same period that the CIA and mafia were doing the same, so his involvement would almost certainly suggest a deeper motive. Debra's father Dean Kent was a corporate officer of Utah's Triangle Oil Company, a company later found to be engaged in financial misconduct whose officers also included members of the Allred family (powerful LDS family name).

Getting into the Colorado crimes, I'd argue that the pattern ramps up even more. Caryn Campbell, whose real murderer may be Grand Junction police chief Ben Meyers instead of Ted Bundy, was the sister of a Fort Lauderdale cop. It just so happens that Fort Lauderdale was the headquarters of the aforementioned CIA/mafia drug operations which Ron Auth was likely part of. These operations extended out into Aspen CO, where Caryn was murdered, and Vail CO, where Bundy's next alleged victim Julie Cunningham was murdered. And of course on top of that, you have Julie's coincidental friendship with the daughter of prominent Salem cop Jim Stovall, who was well acquainted with Salem's former police chief...Ben Meyers. And finally, the next Colorado victim attributed to Bundy, Denise Oliverson, marks the start of Grand Junction's "killing season".

I don't know exactly what role Bundy played in these murders, but if he wasn't part of them, he was being maneuvered into leaving behind circumstantial links that would make him a patsy for them. We supposedly have Bundy making gas purchases with his credit card near Aspen on the day of the Campbell murder, near Vail on the day of the Cunningham murder, and in Grand Junction on the day of the Oliverson murder. While far from sufficient to convict him in any fair trial, it's a pretty incriminating pattern, but it also feels overly convenient: this careful master criminal just happens to produce easily-traceable records of being in or near the exact cities where he commits all three of his Colorado murders? Either way, he was laying a trail: whether it's of him participating in these murders, or of him being directed to these places without knowing the reason a la Lee Harvey Oswald or James Earl Ray. (Impersonation, if someone got ahold of his credit card, is also possible, once again a la Lee Harvey Oswald.)

This criminal enterprise, primarily centered around interstate drug traffic (though with some aspects of sexual exploitation as well), appears to have been eliminating those who posed a threat to their operations. Bundy was not linked to all of the group's murders, but he was linked to several, and by allowing a "serial killer" to take credit, it effectively removed any exploration of deeper motives. Similarly, it removed any exploration of whether non-Bundy murders by the same enterprise were connected to Bundy's supposed murders. That is what I think Bundy's main purpose was: providing a means to write off various murder-for-hire cases as the work of a "lone nut".

Overall, I think serial killers fitting the Programmed to Kill profile tend to fall in two major categories (though there are plenty of overlaps): traffickers and hitmen. The traffickers (which your investigation has largely focused on) tend to be procurers, pornographers, or "cleanup" persons for organized sex rings. Major examples would be Dean Corll, the OCCK group, John Wayne Gacy, the Hillside Stranglers (a notable example involving girls instead of boys), Wayne Williams, Bob Berdella, and Marc Dutroux. The hitmen are individuals who either commit or are set up to take the fall for (usually it's a mix of both) contract murders, so that the contracted nature of these murders gets obscured by their designation as "serial killer" victims. Major examples would be the "Zodiac" (though much like OCCK, the idea of a single Zodiac is likely a myth), John Linley Frazier, Herb Mullin, Ted Bundy, Thomas Creech, David Berkowitz, Henry Lee Lucas, Ottis Toole, Doug Clark, and Joseph DeAngelo. I'd say Charles Manson and Jeffrey Dahmer are both a pretty even cross between the two categories.
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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby Marionumber1 » Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:02 am

These Gacy documents discussing his blackmail material were seemingly (given the "Clerk of the Circuit Court" stamp on one) filed as exhibits in Gacy's murder trial, so in theory all the records still exist; someone would just need to shell out the money to order them. I will look into that. Meanwhile, I'll also ask one of my contacts on Gacy if they know which search this particular document came from.

The interstate and international web you've dug up from these 70s cases is incredible, going far beyond what I'd found in researching for CAVDEF. Major props to you; your site is an invaluable resource for understanding the elite pedophile networks of that era. I don't think I ever came across that information on the LA vice cop who investigated a child smuggling/murder ring and knew about a snuff film of Dean Corll's. That practice of smuggling children over the border in specially-made cars actually reminds me of what Henry Lee Lucas was purportedly doing for the Hand of Death before he got into the murder-for-hire side of things. And now that you mention it, I have heard some rumors about Corll's operations somehow being linked to the Hand of Death. Do you have more information on that LA vice cop?
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Postby drstrangelove » Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:29 am

Vice cop's name is Llyod Martin who investigated Guy Strait in LA. Dean Corll's snuff film mentioned in an article called the "The Last Porno Show" i've uploaded here: https://thehotstar.net/images/gacy/The_ ... _1977_.jpg

Comments from Martin can also be found in the Senate hearings from 1977, and he is also cited in a bunch of other articles around the time when this stuff was hitting the press '75-'80.
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Postby drstrangelove » Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:34 am

John Wayne Gacy and The Delta Project: https://thehotstar.net/gacy.html

Haven't compiled references lists yet for article.

Final network diagram of all known cases linked to John David Norman from the 1970s:

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Postby drstrangelove » Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:01 pm

Atlanta Child Murders - Mike Thevis connection to Wayne Williams through Hotlanta Studios.

Thevis responded to news of the federal investigation by establishing a handful of legitimate businesses as fronts for his illicit pursuits, founding the music distribution firm General Recording Corp. and its attendant record labels GRC, Aware, and Hotlanta."

- https://www.allmusic.com/artist/michael ... 0002072269 (courtesy http://cavdef.org/w/index.php?title=Atl ... ld_murders)

A man named Willie Hunter was the manager of Hotlanta Records, located in College Park. (https://www.newspapers.com/image/519903803/)

Meanwhile, also on May 21, Wayne Williams—six days shy of his 23rd birthday—sat down at his typewriter and prepared a $70 invoice for having taken still photographs of a client of Hotlanta Records. Williams had delivered the bill that night, he would tell me, to the recording company, located in College Park, south of Atlanta.

page 316, The List, Chet Dettlinger/Jeff Prugh

On cross-examination, Knox said that Willie Hunter, Williams’ business associate, struck him as being effeminate.

page 460, The List, Chet Dettlinger/Jeff Prugh

Another boy told the court how Wayne Williams had met him and the boy’s parents, had paid the family’s way to Atlanta, had again sent him round-trip bus fare from home in South Carolina to Atlanta, and had taken him to a recording studio.
When he wanted to go home, the boy said, Homer and Faye Williams arranged an earlier return by bus and took him to the
station.
Did Wayne Williams touch him? “No,” the boy said.
Did he suggest anything that might be out of line? “No.”
Then what did Wayne Williams do that called for this prosecution
testimony? One day, Williams drove the boy across a bridge! The youngster said he himself could even find the bridge again.
The boy said he met Willie Hunter, who, he said, asked him about sex

- page 443, The List, Chet Dettlinger/Jeff Prugh

Wayne Williams takes boy to studio owned by child pornographer Michael Thevis. Introduces boy to manager there who talks to boy about sex. Williams is paid by Hotlanta studios to photograph their clients.

I know you were onto this George, and the Apogee studio connection is mentioned in the book. But the Hotlanta connection is so clean and unambiguous. Specially with the Andrew Jackson connection to both Williams and Thevis as the cherry on top.

You should lobby one of your podcasters to get a interview with Chet Dettlinger if he's still alive. I found an interview he gave to one on youtube but the interviewer completely overlooked the books thesis, which is written between the lines as he couldn't state it outright at the time due to legal issues. books a fucking a mess though. pertinent information found hundreds of pages apart. i shelled out for a first edition hardback but luckily found a pdf online with keyword search.
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Postby drstrangelove » Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:03 am

The first prime suspect in the Atlanta Child Murders prior to Wayne Williams was Larry Marshall, a 34-year-old security guard employed by Wackenhut corp. This was confirmed by Wackenhut in a statement to the press. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/1151096 ... wackenhut/
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Postby drstrangelove » Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:24 pm

The Atlanta Murders & The Challenge School for Boys

Two child sex rings were linked to victims of the Atlanta child murders who were also linked to the Challenge School for Boys, a juvenile rehabilitation program located at the West Hunter Street Baptist Church alongside another program called the United Youth Adult Conference(UYAC). The UYAC was affiliated with a group of Atlantan politicians who covered these links up and framed Wayne Williams for these murders, a child procurer known to them involved in UYAC youth programs.


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Postby Harvey » Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:03 pm

Excellent analysis as always. What contingency do you think required the intervention of future president (and son of the then vice president and former head of the CIA) George W. Bush?
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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby drstrangelove » Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:00 pm

thanks, corrected.

the white house connection was through jimmy carter, former gov. of georgia close with andrew young who he appointed as ambassador to the un. child pornographer michael thevis was also a campaign contributor to carter i believe. i think bush was the envoy with $4 million or so in federal funds to ensure andrew young got elected mayor after maynard jackson so the cover up could continue. pay people off to keep quiet etc.
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Postby Harvey » Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:47 pm

Yes. Did you see anything which suggests blackmail might also have been a component of the child pornography operation?
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