The Finders - Sources

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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:20 pm

That book is by Mr. John Brisson of the YT channel "We've Read The Documents," who is still at work on it and was recently in touch.

Best way to get a sense of where he's coming from is this Skeptiko transcript, and there's some supplemental digging in their forum, but it's mostly arguments between dipshits rather than a discussion about The Finders case.

....Thank you very much for having me back on, Alex. I’m very welcome to come back on Skeptiko and discuss this issue of ritual abuse and government institutions being involved in it and how very actually widespread it is, and we do have documentation.

I know there are many claims that can be made about these different cases, whether it’s the Franklin scandal or McMartin preschool or The Finders, and some are very hard to substantiate in the claims that have been made in these cases. But I do believe, at the bare minimum, with a majority of these cases, that children were abused, at the bare minimum, and at the grand maximum, it was ritual abuse by the highest levels of governments around the world.

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As far as The Finders case is concerned, I am bringing new documents to the table that were not previously seen, like Ramon J Martinez Whistleblower Complaint. I am interviewing people that have not previously been interviewed before, or at least information had not been released, like people pertaining to The Finders case. Like the prosecuting attorney Willie Meggs or U S Customs John Sullivan, or Ramon J Martinez’s partner Bob Harrold.

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It’s a cult because Marion Petty was the leader of a group of people that would enter and exit out of The Finders, and when they entered into The Finders, they would give up their monetary possessions, they would give up their real estate, which you would normally see with cults, of how the leader would get everything and they put everything into what was called an invisible bank. Petty would say, “Oh, if you left, you’d get your stuff back.” Well, Finders members would later sue, that would leave the cult, that would not get what they put back into the invisible bank back.

Now I’d actually argue and I’ve kind of changed it in the book I’m writing. I have referenced it as a cult to make it more palatable to people, but I do actually think it should be more classified as The Finders Operation, because that seems like what it is, with Marion Petty’s ties initially to the Office of Strategic Services, him being part of the Air Force and later the information that we have from the investigative leads memo of being trained in espionage at the Jesuit College, Georgetown University.

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With Petty, Petty joined the Air Force and was a chauffeur to many famous people at the time. He chauffeured Harry S. Truman, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Hap Arnold who was head of the Air Force, he was head of the Air Force at the time. So he chauffeured many, many high up, elite people around the time of World War II and afterwards. And he was also owning these apartment buildings in Washing DC that he was renting to the Office of Strategic Services members.

So he’s had connections to the government, the highest levels of government even back then.

Now, he claims that he got the money to start The Finders and to buy property in Virginia by winning poker games. Over time he just saved up his money to buy land, where the investigative leads memo, we don’t know who the author of that is, has made references to, that it was him knowing people within intelligence was how he got that money, because he had high level connections. To buy all of these hundreds of acres of land, it was from him winning poker games while he was in the military.

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So I mean, Marion Pettie buys all that land from Charles Marsh and I believe that he wasn’t just from, from getting playing poker. it was because his connections gave him the money to be able to set up this free state. Cause that was Marion Pettie’s main, one of his main operations separate from, , you know, the filming of child pornography or are separate from the darkness was that he co-opted a lot of the human potential movement, and it seemed like that he was the CIS man to do so. , and to kinda control it and to steer it, , from what I’ve seen, I mean, he also had connection to two connections that we know of: Timothy Leary and Billy Hitchcock.
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Re: The Finders - Sources

Postby liminalOyster » Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:55 am

Interesting new swell of interest. My bad if I sounded too dismissive - meant fizzler only in terms of not raising funds, didn't read more about him. Extremely interested in the Leary connection. That's news to me unless I'm just entirely blanking on hearing of it earlier. .
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Postby Laodicean » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:43 pm

The CIA and The Finders with Elizabeth Vos

In this episode, Whitney is joined by independent journalist Elizabeth Vos, who hasrecently written a series on the Finders, a cult that ritually and sexually abused children, for MintPress News. Discussed in the depth is the evidence of the CIA’s ties to the Finders and the government cover up that followed the arrests of its leaders.

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Postby fruhmenschen » Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:37 pm

Thanks for posting.


Is Mint Press legitimate?
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:32 pm

fruhmenschen » Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:37 pm wrote:Is Mint Press legitimate?


It's a real website that pays real writers to produce real reports, but no media outlet is inherently legitimate. All of them are platforms that exist to promote an agenda, a perspective, a worldview, a narrative frame.

Here at RI we exist downstream of a multi-front information war and parse these products into something new by breaking down narratives into data points and then attempting to verify and re-connect those data points. Trusting anyone else to chew our food for us is not an option and would doom the project from the start. So no website, no report & no reporter is legitimate past what we can verify ourselves.

As I have said here before, Webb is a likeable person but also someone who is useful to her handlers & sources, no different from any other reporter. Her series on Epstein was basically a portfolio of information she was given by Ari Ben Menasche, an Oswald Le Winter / Barbara Honegger type whose role is to muddy the waters while portraying a valuable insider source for curious journalists.

As a venue, the funding and purpose of Mint Press is quite straightforward: they are unrelentingly critical of America, NATO and Israel, while supporting messaging that undermines other areas of that Western Industrial Hegemony, the usual battery of "alt media" causes. This neither writes them off nor delegitimizes them. All media coverage is propaganda from motivated actors. As even the most rabidly anti-RUS media critics have to concede, venues like RT traffick largely in facts, in accurate criticisms of US actions & society.

That being that, still, things get even more fraught and indirect once we get to coverage of core issues like sex trafficking and blackmail operations, because those are networks & tactics that are used by every front in this information war -- a common vulnerability. This is why, to harken back to Yung Whitney, Ari would be so keen to frame Epstein as a Mossad operative, rather than inviting scrutiny of the real trans-national WEF/NGO network behind him.

So it's fair game to infer that this is also why Vos is framing the Finders as a CIA operation rather than, as the facts repeatedly indicate, a military operation that the CIA is running cover for. (In many ways the most valuable service that Langley provides is being a prolific scapegoat, jumping on every sword raised against the stability operations sausage factory. This is something that O'Neil kept looking away from in CHAOS, opting to blame the CIA for the military intelligence activity has was unraveling in California.)

That said, I think Vos has been a fairly pure synthesizer for most of her visible career, boiling down ugly and complicated stories into readable and credible briefs. I believe that is what she's doing in her Mint Press series on the Finders, though I also believe it could have easily been boiled down to a single article -- but shit, that's the business, ain't it? And even if most media platforms are loss leaders that get funded to push messaging rather than make money, that's still a business.
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Postby DrEvil » Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:56 pm

That makes a lot of sense: the CIA as the Redeker Plan for US intelligence, the same way Israel helps attract a lot of aggression that would otherwise have been pointed at the US. You hardly ever hear about ONI, CGI, INR, 16 AF, CSS, NRO, DIA, MIC, OICI, MCI, NGA, TFI, IB, ONSI, I&A or DEL 7. Occasionally the NSA, and the NRO if you follow the launch industry, but that's about it.

I sometimes wonder if there's a classified intelligence org called OGA. Would be the perfect cover.
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Postby Grizzly » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:23 pm

Trigger warning?

Tangentially related?

https://www.opindia.com/2021/07/german-secret-paedophile-project-psychologist-helmut-kentler-homeless-children-with-men/
German pedo project: How a psychologist manipulated courts to keep children in homes of paedophile men in a state endorsed ‘experiment’
The experiment which later came to be dubbed as "Kentler's Project" involved placing youth with known paedophiles. Kentler, a homosexual man himself, believed that it would provide emotionally traumatised teens with a social anchor while giving the paedophiles an opportunity to become loving foster parents.
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Re: The Finders - Sources

Postby liminalOyster » Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:51 pm

Hmmmm. Of interest. Will come back to format and delete if already posted. Hadn't read all of TylerRabbit's old posts or realized this was, indeed, his piece. Oops. Anyone know what happened with the film he was working on?

Children of the Finders speak!
Were the Finders' children victims of a satanic kidnapping cult? We asked them for you.
JOSEPH L. FLATLEY AND TYLER RABBITJAN 12, 2022

The Finders were an intentional community that had its heyday in the 1980s. After a brief run-in with the law, a number of conspiracy theories about the group started circulating. These days, it's mostly known as a “mind control cult” and a CIA operation run amok — labels that the former members scoff at.

For more background, read From The Finders to QAnon. If you're really curious, Joseph L. Flatley’s zine The Finders: Lost and Found is available from Big Cartel.

The visionary who started it all, the founding Finder, was a man with many names: The Student, The Stroller, The Gamecaller. He was born Marion David Pettie on December 12, 1920. Pettie enlisted in the Army at the age of 15 and transferred to the Air Force in 1947. He retired in 1955, took his pension, and never worked again.

When Pettie joined the Army, the legal enlistment age was 16 years old. To leave home, he had to convince his parents to lie to the recruiter about his birthday. Pettie did this through not-too-subtle intimidation: After coming across an article in the newspaper about a boy who killed his parents, he clipped it and left it on the kitchen table. “I didn’t say anything about the article,” Pettie said. “I just cut it out of the paper and left it on the dining room table, so my father would find it.”

This tactic must have worked because Pettie’s parents acquiesced and soon he was in Panama, a lifeguard for the U.S. Army. The teenage soldier sat out by the base pool, reading books and working on his tan for three years. This created the template for how he would live his entire life — by learning as much (and working as little) as possible.

By the late sixties, Pettie was living with his wife and two sons in the Washington, D.C. area. It was around this time that he began assembling the intentional community that came to be known as The Finders.

“He was definitely anti-bureaucratic and anti-institutional,” former Finder Randolph “Rannie” Winn says of his teacher. “He did not want to set up an institutional-type of community. He always wanted to keep it flexible and experimental.”

The Finders tried to lay low and avoid rankling the powers that be. Still, conflict was inevitable. In America, the land of the individual above all else, Henry Miller’s “air-conditioned nightmare,” merely deciding to live in an intentional community is itself a political act. Marion Pettie, who wished to turn his back on society, inevitably made a lowercase-p ‘political’ statement by rejecting politics altogether.

“Pettie was a great visionary,” another ex-Finder named Robert “Tobe” Terrell says. “And he saw the decline of Western civilization. He forecast what we are living through right now. And the way that he advocated living was as preparation for a new consciousness.”

Pettie’s goal was no less than the liberation of humanity from the shackles of “progress,” the illusory pseudo-progress that comes with scientific advancement. Central to his philosophy was proper child-rearing. He believed that healing the planet began with raising healthy children.

Pettie saw his followers — not to mention the modern world in general — as supremely fucked up. A great deal of their time was spent playing “games,” psychodrama formulated by their guru with the specific goal of un-fucking people.

The first two Finders children were Mary, six months old when her mother joined in 1980, and Max, born to a community member in 1981. Eventually, there would be seven Finders kids total.

The word Mary uses to describe her childhood is “free.”

“There were certain times it probably was not the safest environment for kids,” she says, “but it was definitely a very free environment for exploration and learning and feeling confident, that kind of competence that comes with not having adults tell you that you can’t do something, or you’re too young to do it.”

One of Pettie’s games was the “High Field Experiment” or “Paradise.” This was organized in the spring of 1984 for Max and Mary, ages three and four, respectively. In his memoir The Gamecaller, Tobe sets the scene: The High Field, a former cow pasture, is “pristine—tall straight tulip poplars in tracts of a few acres, surrounded by open rolling hills where two streams run down from the Shenandoah National Park.”

The Finders set aside two acres of the pasture for the experiment. An area was designated for the children by erecting a wall out of tree limbs and brush. It was “low enough for [adults] to easily hop over, but high enough to be a serious obstacle to a toddler,” according to Tobe. They took care to make this look like a feature of the landscape. Inside the wall, they built a lean-to and placed bedding beneath it for the children. There was a small stream with fresh drinking water, as well as ample shade trees. The Finders called this area Paradise.

After it was all put together, the adults set the children down inside the walls. The kids, used to ignoring the odd behavior of the adults, began to play. Over the next several days, the adults stayed out of sight as the children create their own world of the imagination. They were supervised around the clock, from a distance. The adults brought food into the camp when the kids weren’t paying attention and joined them while they slept to ensure they were safe at night.

One of Pettie’s aphorisms was: “Never say anything rational to a child. They’ll become rational soon enough, but let them evolve the thinking apparatus for themselves.” The Paradise game was an opportunity to let the children be precisely who they were, at that moment in time, without any adults imposing an ordered worldview on them. It was designed to be a surreal experience, developmentally appropriate for toddlers.

“I don’t think that as much thinking goes into raising kids [in “straight” society] as went into raising us,” Max says. He’s 37 years old now. Rather than winging it, The Finders were doing their best to be thoughtful, innovative parents.

“They were all about putting the kids in charge,” Mary says, “or at least making the kids feel like they were in charge. I remember not being supervised a lot of the time. I remember having a very free childhood. I could do whatever I wanted and didn’t really have to check-in or ask if I could do something.”

The Finders children were “free-range,” even compared to the much looser standards of the 1980s. The neighbors certainly noticed, but they never thought that it rose to the level of neglect.

“We were allowed to use adult things, like Swiss Army knives,” Mary says. “I learned how to whittle a spoon with a Swiss Army knife when I was four.” Another frequent activity was fishing at an area creek. “I was like five or something. And the river was far away from the house. I don’t remember any adult following us there or watching us. And no one ever said be careful, or watch what you’re doing. We didn’t have to let anyone know that we were leaving or anything like that.”

“A lot of that was done intentionally,” Max says. “Just give the children as many opportunities, and as much space to explore, and really make our environments rich and full.”

Parenting duties were shared among the various adults in the group. Of course, there were some who were more suited for it than others. It wasn’t like Synanon, where children would be warehoused someplace while the parents lived their best lives.

“Every day was so different,” Mary says. “I’m sure they'd read a lot of those developmental theorists like Piaget and Vygotsky, who basically said that children are like little scientists and everything that children do is an experiment. And that's how they learn, by repeating things and in touching things and exploring things. And that if you tell kids not to play in the mud, they're never going to learn about mud. You know, that kind of thing.”

Sounds like a good way to raise a kid, but I’m sure it would look very strange to outsiders.

Mary
On February 4, 1987, six of the Finders children were taken into custody when two of their adult caregivers were suspected of child abuse in a Tallahassee, Florida park. They were on a camping trip. All charges were eventually cleared, but that took the better part of a year. In the meantime, a conspiracy theory spread connecting the community to Satanic rituals and CIA mind control operations. This myth persists to this day.

Mary was seven years old at the time. Here, she recalls what happened on February 4. The following is edited for length and clarity.

I remember playing in the park for a long time. I think it was Michael who was [babysitting] us, and Doug had taken the van to go do errands — you know, probably laundry and grocery shopping or whatever. So we’re playing in the park until he comes back.

We’d been playing there for God knows how many hours. I think we were probably relatively clean when we got there, but by the end of the day, we were pretty dirty. And there were no women, you know, it's just two guys with six kids. And so I can see how that would look odd to someone.

Someone in the neighborhood apparently called CPS, and a couple of police officers showed up. The [adult Finders] did their usual thing of, you know, mum’s the word — they don't say a word, you know. The police attempted to question them, but they wouldn't say anything. The police touched them, and they went all noodly. Limp. No cooperation whatsoever, because that was what they were told to do by Pettie.

So we’re hauled into the police station, and I remember being fingerprinted. I thought it was kind of a cool thing to see my fingerprints on the paper. And this female cop was really nice. And you know, they're always asking you questions. They're showing me pictures of the guys and asking me what their names were. And I remember telling them that Michael was my dad. And I remember telling them that I was six years old because that's how old I thought I was at the time. I was actually seven. And I remember them taking us to a little house. I later learned that it was a cottage on the grounds of a mental asylum. And they had nurses around the clock, different shifts coming to take care of us.


Paula
Paula Arico, Mary’s mother, picks up the story from here. In addition to Mary, her son John Paul was put in state custody when the Finders men were arrested in Tallahassee. As a result of her run-in with the law, she left The Finders and moved to Tallahassee.
I was in San Francisco [at the time of the arrests], and I wasn't freaked out at first. I was concerned, but I was part of a group of people that would solve this together. You know, it's part of my wiring, cooperative living. That's really how we survived this long as a species.

So I got this call on Friday morning [February 6]. I think it happened on a Wednesday, but it was actually a couple of days before I found out about it. We had a meeting, I think on Saturday, because Pettie came up to San Francisco. Because federal charges were going to be applied for kidnapping, we needed to talk to the FBI in Washington D.C. We wound up flying back that Sunday.

Of course, by now the press is all camped out in front of [our home on] W Street in Washington, and we're trying to sneak in and out to do stuff. And it's not working. So [Finder] Carolyn gets in a van, and drives in front of the press, and takes them on a journey. And then the rest of us all take our little day bags, our overnight bags, and run out the back door and get a different van. We drive all night and all day, taking turns driving, and get down to the Florida line. We don't cross into Florida because we don't know what's going to happen if we go into Florida. You know, we've been hearing all kinds of stuff, tons of misinformation in the press. We can't get any real information out of anybody.

We spent a day in a library and on a payphone, contacting people in Tallahassee, trying to find out what we could do, and we found a family law attorney who agreed to meet with us. I think we met with her on a Friday. Of course, we still got the press hounding us. Now the stringers for the major papers are down in Tallahassee.

I went to a Catholic church on Sunday, even though I'm pretty much a lapsed Catholic, a recovering Catholic, because that's what you do when you need help — you go to where the help is. And that set in motion finding housing for all of us, because we could not afford to stay in a hotel another night.

In the meantime, [Finder] Tobe puts out this press release. It says "yes, we do have some bodies, they're buried over here, very near this creek" — because we've always wanted to pond over there. It's just razzmatazz, you know? Let's just see how much the news media can take a joke. Because to us, it was really much more of a joke than a reality, until the point where it looked like they were not going to give our kids back to us. And then the call came from Pettie: “Fire the attorney and just throw yourself on the mercy of the court.”

I had a two-year-old who, the minute he saw me, my blouse is up and he's nursing again. Mary, on the other hand, had a Valentine's Day card. She knew she would see me again and that she needed a Valentine's Day card for me. This is my lovely daughter, who had total faith. A true Finder, she knows everything's gonna be fine. You know, this is just the next game. It's a different group of adults, but it's always a different group of adults. [laughs]


That first visit [with my children] was maybe ten days from the arrest. Within a week, my kids were living with me. That was in February, and by the end of 1987, I had a job in Tallahassee. I had the kids in school and preschool, I was living in an okay place, and I started to make friends.

Members of the news media take part in an interview with R. Gardner "Tobe" Terrell, a member of the Finders communal group, in a warehouse owned by the group. Terrell wore a rubber mask of President Reagan on the back of his head to prevent identification.
Members of the news media take part in an interview with R. Gardner "Tobe" Terrell, a member of the Finders communal group, in a warehouse owned by the group. Terrell wore a rubber mask of President Reagan on the back of his head to prevent identification.

Max
One of the most prominent myths about The Finders is that they abuse children as part of a CIA program to create Manchurian Candidates. This is what Max says when asked point-blank if this is true: “It’s just impossible to know until I'm activated.” He laughs, then he gets serious. “Of course, I was never abused or anything like that. And as far as the intelligence community stories, there are so many things that are wrong with that hypothesis, that concept.”

Ultimately, the conspiracy theories about The Finders persist because the group itself was never really interested in setting the record straight.

The Finders were disdainful of the media perspective. Knowing that the media could be fooled kind of give them a little power trip, you know? If somebody can be so easily fooled, why would you ever care about their opinion of you? So that's one angle. And the other angle is that Marion Pettie was puckish, and playful in that kind of way. He gleefully led people astray in their assumptions. Besides, The Finders had their own social network, their own social safety net, their own financial safety net, and they were self-sufficient, so the societal perception of the community was of minor importance. These guys could support each other and support themselves. It was a tight-knit community that didn't need society's approval.

In the Netherlands they say "the wheat that stands tallest gets chopped." Society is immediately suspicious of things that are different. I see it as Darwinian. Societies that are not suspicious get overrun by other societies that are suspicious.

Four of five women who claim to be mothers of six children taken into custody nearly two weeks ago are shown in a Tallahassee law office on Saturday. From left to right, they are Kristin Knauth, Judy Evans, Paula Arico and Carolyn Said. They say they want their children back and want to put the episode behind them.

The Finders eventually sorted out their legal problems, the media moved on to other things, and everybody went on with their lives. But good conspiracy theories never really die, so it was perhaps inevitable that rumors of The Finders' CIA connection would find an eager audience on the internet.

This has led to decades of harassment and lies. It's no surprise that most Finders just want to be left alone at this point.

This short article hasn't come close to answering all the conspiracy theorist's questions about the children of The Finders, nor does it try to. The Finders deserve more than that. They deserve to have their story honestly told — not to "set the record straight," but because it's a damn good story.

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Re: The Finders - Sources

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:48 pm

Well, per his bio in that piece "Tyler Rabbit is a stage magician and visual effects artist currently working on a documentary about The Finders." These things do take time.

Been going through the fourth and final part of the FBI dump, lots of new questions and details in the mix there. When you stack it up against the chronological press coverage, it's hard to shake the suspicion the group had access to internal law enforcement comms. PROMIS looms large in this story.
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Postby liminalOyster » Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:25 pm

Thanks WR. Saw that but thought he felt he would have a rough cut a few years ago now so I wondered if his bio might just be outdated and maybe he had dropped the film for a book, etc. I'll be very interested to see it if it does happen.

Sometimes seems like the jurisdictional or divisional disjunct between different LEO groups is possibly the most instructive takeaway from the episode - far more than the much coveted smoking gun to support other, bigger related pet theories -- IOW a good place to probe further to learn something about how infiltration/influence works. Will look at that chronology.

One thing I noticed and found confusing is that the customs officer, later questioned, is, IIRC, asked about things like jars of excrement, the telex, etc, but there's no mention (could've missed it, it was late and I was falling asleep) of the group collecting detailed information about families under the guise of babysitting,etc. Will have to review again.
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Postby drstrangelove » Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:56 pm

What's the contention over this case? It seems pretty straight forward, though admittedly I only spent maybe a day maybe a month or two ago going over it. You have the customs report(wash post article published feb 7th before the customs report corroborates most of its claims using local PD as source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/ ... c0bd2bc39/) detailing the warehouse raid and you have the Future Enterprises Inc. link to the CIA. The interesting lead is the telex messaging system which suggests international scope. Not sure what else can be squeezed from this. I'd put this one down as solved.
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Postby Grizzly » Sat Feb 04, 2023 3:34 pm

https://theintercept.com/2019/11/24/cia-mkultra-louis-jolyon-west/
Louis Jolyon West seems to have used chemicals and hypnosis liberally in his medical practice, possibly leading to the death of a child and the execution of an innocent man.
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Postby drstrangelove » Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:47 pm

In a podcast covering the Troop 137 pedo ring from the mid 1970s, detectives who worked the case claim:
1) Jars of children's urine had been collected by the pedophiles leading the Troop.
2) They suspected one of these pedophiles, Robert Lang, had been an intelligence asset based on evidence they'd found of him having been in four separate branches of the US military and having been the only member of the group to receive a suspended sentence. Rest went away for 30-40 year stints.

Lang had also been involved in a side operation of Troop 137 paid little attention called Adelphi tours. Which had supplied out of state politicians with boy prostitutes.

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What use could urine samples be? Say in regards to an off the books continuation of MKUltra's experimentation on the effects of trauma on children?
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