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Postby zhivkov » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:00 pm

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OE cant express how much I want to thank you for all of the links and info you have given me (of course if you lived close by I can think of a few ways I would like to say thanks :D )
No wonder the Frye book is your fave-have only taken the first peeks at it-but wow-just wow! thx so much for the new links also-Z
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Postby zhivkov » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:12 pm

Penguin-I can't wait to see your pics-o and this also-i hope like hell i am saying or writing it correctly, hyvaa paivaa or hei or moi? I also need your flag back! hehe i thought all flags timed out after a day but some are into 2 days-yours disappeared!
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sorry if this is a re-do-for some reason i really love this

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Postby OP ED » Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:03 am

Blake said he was inspired to do his own vision of the Last judgment from one of his one favorite pieces of art.



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Postby OP ED » Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:44 am

Ello.

Penguin: I love cemeteries. I have some lovely reale estate, full of dead jews, just across thee Six Mile from me. There are ways, along the various little waterbodies nearby, of accessing this cemetary without using the front gate. Most of the homeless people nearby hang out under one of the bridges attached to it. Seems they're fairly safe there from criminal types, who generally avoid cemetaries at night. (i first ran into them on accident, in a woo related incident)

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no prob wrt: links, etc. Most of them were already on my bookmarks, and it occured to me that Google should have the Frye book because i knew they took all the books my University's library had for their big book project thingee. The (pdf) book I linked to in the "Oneill" explanatory post was one from my school.

I think I did post the Hecate picture before, and its in the Girls/Birds thread too. Doesn't matter, I like it.

The Frye book is still, sixty years from publication, considered THE study of Blake's cannon of symbolism. Everything written on the subject since has used it as a primary source, as few people, even writers, "get it" they way that Mr. Frye does. I was fortunate enough to get the book when i was fairly young, before i'd had too much exposure to mediocre lines of artistic thought in school. also before i'd been innoculated to Blake, as i'm sure they intended. (Ever notice how one learns the very weakest, earliest and often shallowest works by good authors in school? almost as if they wish to discourage you from possibly encountering art that might change your life..)

if i ever decide to start accepting, er, gratitudes, from thee fellas, you'll be first to know. (actually second probably, cause i figure i should tell my girlfriend first) i'm sure we'd get along splendidly as you appear to be roughly as big a whore as i am. (adjusting for age, of course, ha, not that your age would stop me, i've had an occassional woman older than yourself, mostly at university--professors are easy)


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Postby zhivkov » Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:49 am

wow the 1206 am image is interesting-i am so tempted to start diving into as much online info as I can get on blake-including the google book-I have to restrain myself as you know me Im always 20 directions in once-I really need to finish a series i have started at my place-so i need to focus which seems harder with each passing year-even tho my cell counts are fine i wonder if the virus has crossed the blood/brain barrier-as i find my self making stupid mistakes and forgetting and am experiencing melancholy a lot more often and very seldom-but i am so embarassed when this happens i have outbursts of rage (note my hysteria around elec time and accusations against those who were against Obama-Blake is truly a treasure OE and it is you who I owe the real introduction to even tho i had heard of him before -already i want to start researching the frye book and articles about Blakes relation with Swedenborg and Gnosticism and of course more of his verse-if i have a connection tomorrow I am putting up The Land of Dreams at my place so thanks for that inspiration also!
I do not know what I would do without my fam and the few friends in my life (i consider you one-others here also) who really matter to me. going to listen to some tunes may be back-i need to try to turn in as early as i can for once-to help brother-if im not back this eve i wish you and others here a wonderful night -Z
I swear you will never see a post of me without at least one edit-I had to come back to completely agree with you about mediocre authors as compared to heavenly ones-school is where-esp in the US I think we are trained to be good little consumers and never ? anything!-Z
ROFLMAO-I didn't catch your 'whore' and adjusting for age reference-you really do make my day-a lot of times OE-i would love to at least meet you once b4 I shuffle off! I owe you a load of liquor or something! :D
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Postby zhivkov » Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:36 am

thanks again OE-as you can see insomnia has struck on a most unwelcome night and it is far too late to take a trazadone.
I have a late night riddle-you have a kind of 'binary' birthday as far as month and date go
i share the same birthday with an american president-month and day-
our numbers are not binary-but this presidents # in the presidential succession is. i was also born 10 days after a communist official died-can you guess my birthday?
i should have said early morning riddle
on another note do you think evanescence-got my immortal from a line of previous verse mentioned?
just some early morning silliness from z
i hope you are doing great and get to see your girlfriend soon!
although if i did not have the virus and thought i had a chance i would fight her for you-she is probably a lot more tough than me-although that isnt saying much :D
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Postby Penguin » Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:32 am

Okies, Ill post most of these pics now, and write more explanations later perhaps. Most of the memorials are war memorials - to the rightist germans and finns who overtook Helsinki from the leftist finns in the 1918 civil war, and one memorial is for people who helped in Estonian war in 1919.

The graveyard is originally from the middle ages, but its biggest use was in 1700s when the Black Plague arrived in Helsinki, and killed over a thousand people - 2/3 of the population at that time.

The war dead and the plague dead are all in mass graves. The single gravestones and small monuments are later - from 1800s, and private ones.

The pictures of the statue and wall ornaments are from behind the church on the other side - the statue is Kalevala statue from 1901 - commemorating our national epic collector Lönnroot. One of the charcters is Lönnroot himself, the other are from the Kalevala epic. Wall ornaments are from surrounding buildings.

OP ED, do you have any idea what the inscription on the statues bronze surface means? The letters before the names? And what is the significance of the 5-pointed star / interpretations? I suppose that statue was erected by masons but am not sure. Helsinkis oldest public monument is a masonic one - ill shoot it for you later since it was a little way off from that place, and didnt get there yesterday.

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The text says basically "Beautiful is Fatherland, to live and die in front of your face, Easy it is - to sleep in the soil of the free land" and a similar sentiment in swedish.

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This one is in memory of those who went to help Estonians in 1919 and died.

More in next post...
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Postby Penguin » Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:35 am

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Memorial to dead germans who assaulted Helsinki along with german-trained Finnish Jäegers in 1918.


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"Love and thankfulness keep the memory alive - name of deceased"

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Postby Penguin » Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:42 am

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Or is this perhaps something about the makers of the statue, or the origin on the metal used? I have no idea.

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I just love old buildings and the ornaments on them! I promise you Ill go ornament hunting next week at the latest, and shoot all the coolest animal / gargoyle / human / abstract details I can find. Its so sad buildings aint made like this anymore....
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Postby zhivkov » Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:57 am

penguin-those are some incredible pics-will look at them further tomorrow-thanks for posting them! finally off to bed-going to be in trouble trying to wake early-best to all of you!-Z
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Postby OP ED » Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:29 am

Penguin: Looks like the Bronzeworker's signature to me. Hard to say. Doesn't look neccessarily freemasonic, those sort tend to be fairly obvious.

like the pictures though. any dates on the latter monument pictured?
(or do you know the relevant dates, anyhow?)

the letters before the names could easily be the mills that the various metals came from. hard to read. dunno. will run it around.


Comrade Z;
I am still working on your riddle. Only just saw it a bit ago.

Don't know from evanescence. Don't know their stuff.

my girl is formidable. (Tae kwon Do)

[i prefer kenpo, myself, but whatever]

[she also has a permit to carry a concealed weapon, so make sure to pick a fight with her when she isn't in Michigan or a state that shares permits (Ohio, Indiana, Illinois--i think, etc) or you'll probably die]

it will likely still be some considerable time before i bask in her glorious presence again. i do, however, occassionally talk to her, as scheduling permits. that helps some. (hurts some too, but that is how these things work)

ah well.

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