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Postby zhivkov » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:55 am

Hi ya'll sorry for the drawal there-just came by to see whats shaking and to say hi and hope everyone is doing great! I had a weird kind of off-topic? question-I was wondering if any of you knew what the general feeling at RI on Sept 11 was-wrt if there was just an operation to expand US empire-or if the event also had a more esoteric component-component wasn't quite the word I wanted but it is late and its hard for me to think at the best of times. Peace and best to all of you!
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Stone Aged

Postby OP ED » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:55 am

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Postby zhivkov » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:57 am

hehe thought i was alone -good to c u OE i am addicted to at least two things i saw on the list-maybe more will look again-o Perelandra I stole your pic-does anyone know if nathan is around 2nite?
Haha if you put vicodin as equal to oxycodone and valium as equal to xanax i am actually addicted to 3!
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Postby OP ED » Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:02 am

nathan28 wrote: sometimes you forget that unprotected, strange sigils = astral gonorreah



indeed. why do you think i leave them laying around?
(which is to say, why would someone like me pile a lot of mine in one place like that?)

i like you nathan. shame we haven't spoken directly more often. i like where your head is at. (like with joe, i'm fairly certain we'd agree on a number of underlying topics we've never taken the time to discuss properly)

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Postby OP ED » Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:33 am

zhivkov wrote:This is great stuff-will have to come back as it is kinda late-sorry your birthday wasn't better OE-loved the thing about Hollywood and gay Jews hehe-except for that one time I am a police unmagnet-I could be doing 80mph in a school zone and not a one would notice-if there is a way to send this power to you I will-it is a good thing i am not a shop lifter -my cloak of invisiblilty seems to extend to sales clerks and store managers-except for the weird ones-maybe because i am weird Hope all of you are doing great!-Z OMG astral gonnorhea :D good one nathan!


my birthday was fine. i did exactly as i wanted to with a few possible exceptions involving the fact that my lady is still MIA. (these exceptions are 2/3 pornographic, so we'll avoid further explorations/explanations)

it is only that the universe wastes birthdays on peoples like myself (hedonists) because every day is a party. (i'm still at a detroit halloween party from 2002, went tripping, never returned)

[maybe someday i'll explain that. it involves mothman]


apologies to gay californian jews.

zhivkov wrote:Hi ya'll sorry for the drawal there-just came by to see whats shaking and to say hi and hope everyone is doing great! I had a weird kind of off-topic? question-I was wondering if any of you knew what the general feeling at RI on Sept 11 was-wrt if there was just an operation to expand US empire-or if the event also had a more esoteric component-component wasn't quite the word I wanted but it is late and its hard for me to think at the best of times. Peace and best to all of you!


after i've been in SE Ohio for more than two months my speech patterns change to suit my surroundings. some people do it faster than me.

the very first things i posted in this thread were related to my ongoing discussion of esotericism and discomysticism in the 911 Ritual with 8bit.

it started in this thread, IIRC, though it is ongoing. i intend to return to it eventually. hope this thread helps, as i don't have any of the others lying around and the search function isn't helping me.

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/v ... sc&start=0

i think the "purpose" of 911 would probably be different for different actors, but i've seen both material and "spiritual" resources being robbed due to its happening. how much is planned and how much is coincidence (or synchronized if you prefer) i always a question, although not likely one with an simple answer.


zhivkov wrote:hehe thought i was alone -good to c u OE i am addicted to at least two things i saw on the list-maybe more will look again-o Perelandra I stole your pic-does anyone know if nathan is around 2nite?
Haha if you put vicodin as equal to oxycodone and valium as equal to xanax i am actually addicted to 3!



be careful mixing meds.
don't know from nathan.

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Postby OP ED » Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:08 am

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i really do like this one darling. you changed it, yes?

do you know what this one is called or who did it?


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OP ED wrote:they're not half bad if you cook them right. :: ::

Mais non, I do not believe you have cooked frogs' legs.
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would you believe i was a sunday school teacher?

("little children, love one another")
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i will tell you a short story. the story is true, the names have been changed to protect the innocent.

when i mentioned "gigging" and hills peoples, i was actually thinking of my family.

i barely had an idea that i was someone, and not any idea of who that someone was the very first time i went frog gigging.

i only remember it, because i remember the very long conversation of 4 males in a 6 male boat over 8 hours in the dark. one of them is me, of course. i am 13 or 14 maybe. the other three males went almost every weekend and invited me along since i was in town.

there is my cousin. almost exactly 18 months younger than me, but he's been a foot taller than me since he was 5. he was always very sporty. smart and kind, but likes to kill animals with guns. nowadays he is a professional conservatist. plants trees, hunts poachers, etc. perfect job for him. he is also an actual ole timer political isolationist conservative. he hates modern Republicans because of the Polar Bears. He wants him and his childrens' childrens' childrens' children (etc) to be able to kill Bears with guns forever, and destroying our environment will lead to no more bears to shoot. he's fantastic. good taste in guns.

his father, my uncle. Former post-hippie, converted to hardcore premillenial dispensationalism. He is ready for the Rapture to happen Now. nice guy. loves jesus. hates commies and the devil.

his half-brother. Atheist materialist. believes in actual extraplanetary aliens. Has seen UFOs.

(both of them are conspiracy theorists of sorts)

we had good conversations about the meaning of Life, the Universe and Everything.

that isn't the point though. the point is that i learned how to acquire frogs' legs.

frogs are stupid.

they make noise, all the time. the bigger ones make bigger noises, so hunting trophy frogs is easy in the hills where no one lives and the frogs are bigger. point a flashlight at the frog and you can walk right up to him and put the spear between his eyes.

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i was a natural. got my quota o' frogs. easy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigging
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident

if you do it right, the frog only lives a few seconds without its tiny brain.

you throw 'em in the bag with the other dead frogs. it'll be heavy when you're done.

at the dock, you dump the bag out.

any frogs left jumping around (cause someone had bad aim w' the gig) have to killed at this point.
this is easy. pick the frog up.
now bang his head on a rock.
once should do it.
put the fucker out of his misery.

now we take pliers to the spine above the hips. snip it clean off. you should be able to now peel off the entire top half of the frog.

grab the loose skin and stip the legs off. frog skin ain't tasty like chicken skin.

rinse and bag.

the top halves of the frogs are now usually recycled as Catfish Bait. this will be important when it comes time to make dinner, as even a bag O frogs doesn't go THAT far. But catfish loves them, and you have a bucket of blood to dump off the dock. like chum.

mmm.

my frogs' legs aren't as pretty as yours. i cook them the same as the fish. pan fried sorta'. butter, onions, peppers, eggs n crumbs n flour, etc. very basic, cause you're cooking in Iron skillets on a campfire. maybe with some rice and/or black beans. i can live on fish & frogs when i go camping.

i could give more detailed instructions. you can also barbecue them like chicken. good this way. not as froggy tasting.

they also tend well to Bayou style cooking, but i'm not as talented with this and tend to follow written instructions except with very basic things. frogs legs' just go w/this sort of food fairly well.

i still get a bag of legs every so often, but i don't routinely hunt frogs except when camping every couple of years.
not much sport in it. frogs are stupid.

maybe if the frogs had guns it would be fair.

tasty.

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Postby OP ED » Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:18 am

Joe Hillshoist wrote:Cheers OP ED you just gave me the names of a whole bunch of things I should be doing more often.

I never knew the names of those techniques, and I don't practice them enough, but gee some of em are good.

Wang Xiangzhai sounds like he knows what he is talking about.

What is, after all, the basic principle of combat science? Different people have different answers to this question, but studying boxing routines, forms of movements, fixed techniques, and training hits and beats, all fall into the category of superficial, and although the boxing routines and forms of movements have been popular already for a long time, they are, indeed, extremely harmful to the people.

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One should know that the original ‘Xingyi’ completely lacked the training method of the twelve forms, but the whole body was meant to express the essence of all these twelve forms. It did not have the theory of the mutual promotion and restraint of the five elements, there were just the five elements representing five kinds of forces. It did not have any fixed techniques, boxing routines or forms of movements either. I remember well the words of my late teacher about the five elements: Metal means the strength contained in the bones and the muscles, the mind being firm like iron or stone, being able to cut gold and steel. Wood has the meaning of the bending but rooted posture of a tree.

Water means force like the waves of the vast sea, lively like a dragon or a snake, when used, it is able to pervade everything. Fire means strength being like gunpowder, fists being like bullets shot out, having the strength to burn the opponent’s body by the first touch. Earth means exerting strength heavy, deep, solid, and perfectly round, the qi being strong, having the force of oneness with heaven and earth. This is the syncretism of the five elements. It has nothing to do with one technique overcoming another technique as the modern people claim. If one first sees with the eyes, then thinks of it again in the mind, and then launches the counter-attack towards the enemy, it is very seldom that one will not get beaten up.


http://taijijourney.blogspot.com/2005/07/interview-with-mr-wang-xiangzhai.html


my occultism is a natural consequence of my youthful Kung-Fu fetish.

(i have often wondered if mine being drafted by a Martial Order was predetermined by my childhood interests)

Fa Li is one of the most potentially dangerous things i've ever been taught, but its practice was one of the things that began shifting me farther towards strategic pacifism (Gandhi is on India's money = Strategy) by helping me to examine the the possible future outcomes of my actions. they kept my interest by showing me that my hands could seperate stone from stone if used properly.

it is unfortunate that our economy doesn't have more openings for entry-level ninja-work as i'd always fantasized about having a career that involved getting beaten-up by chinese girls with improbable weapons.

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normally it is something i have to pay for.

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Postby zhivkov » Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:06 am

sorry your lady is MIA OE-thanks for the heads up-I feel a bit stupid for forgetting that at the beginning of the thread -my memory short term is definitely going-it could be the virus-the drugs i take for the virus-or the drugs i am addicted to -am desperately trying to get as unaddicted as i can -i expect very soon the economy will tank completely and funding for the dosages i am taking will be non-existent or barely there-i am not having much luck so far -i was never addicted to xanax per se-but i hated the effect/affect hehe memory again dont know which word to use-of it i was surprised to take the full script-i would highly suggest to anyone not to take this particular med if at all possible-my dad used to gig for frogs growing up-actually i think that is one of his best memories of being a kid-my reasons for asking about the sept 11 stuff was kinda selfish-i wanted to do a bit about how i thought conspiracies would be easier to understand if we 1) understood if there was any sort of esoteric agenda behind any of them-kind of thinking of lovecraft type stuff-were maybe the folks at the top in some nations actually worship the old ones so to speak number 2 was how many factions are there at the top-worldwide-even just a rough guess would help-i do not know-fuck sorry for misspellings etc-typing quick think connections about to blow-just like yours truly hehe-sorry havent been naughty for awile-some folk in conspiracy land think all the leaders seen and unseen in all nations are in it together in a way-i have really seen this type of thinking and i just cant buy it-i am sure we would be shocked at some of the connections between leaders of nations etc but i simply cannot buy that there is a sort of 'star chamber' of like 12 people that runs the whole fucking show
will have to come back for #3 i think i wanted to ask nate-maybe also you i am sure would know-perhaps joe penguin 8bit Perlandra et al about the astral body-i was wondering if thoughts about the astral were along the lines of it being the only non physical body or one of perhaps more-in hinduism and buddhism i think i see refs to a causal body-i cant make sense of the different thinking on some of it-what i am tyring to say very clumsily is how many different bodies/planes of existence do folks here think there is? this just for my own nosiness-i cant make up my mind on this one-you have a great way with words OE-you should try writing for a magazine/paper/ or a book? just a thought of course-no one ever has to and usually never does take comrades suggestions-i was just thinking you would make a really good writer for back in the day as the really young uns say for way back when Rolling Stone and some other mags were good-i had better post this cant tell if connecitons goin or not but have to see if what i have typed has made any f'in sense anyway-peace and best to you and everyone!-Z
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Postby OP ED » Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:15 am

i'm not certain you forgot, Z, as i do not recall whether i ever mentioned it here or not.
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Postby zhivkov » Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:19 am

maybe connection will stay for this stupid little bit hehe-i noticed the other day coming back from the dentist that a black mini-van was tailgating me-it is really hard to piss me off-but for some reason tail gating should be punsihable by death to me-i was delighted when as it was only a 2 lane road the tailgater could not get around as car beside me was driving same speed eventually the van got around and i noticed later when i was right behind him that he had one of those bumper stickers saying "in case of rapture this car will be unoccupied" i just had to mention this because your mention of dispensationalists and i have noticed in AZ anyway that xtian drivers are very agressive-fuck is that misspelled? really kinda stupid to bother posting this but i have noticed some of these folks need to fucking practice what they preach-best to you all-Z
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Postby zhivkov » Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:36 am

JEEZ-forgot the most important thing I came over here to ask-this is of everyone who has been on the thread and in other areas-i would start a thread of my own in Gen Disc but my threads do not go anywhere
I would very very much value yours and everyones opinion of what they think of this idea---------that if time and history are repeating themselves-i know this has been talked about b4 in many areas (synchmyst-PKD-empire never ended) but i am thinking of it on a grander scale that time is 'fractalized' in a sense and that all parts and people in history -large and small are reflections of each other i think in hinduism there is a 'heaven of Indra' where all things reflect back upon themselves-am i making any sense? I would really value yours and others opinions on this-as many folks as possible-i promise i will do something nice-dont know how yet as i am rather poor right now (think i have 22 bucks to my name) maybe less-but if silver ever frikkin goes up -i promise i will put a bunch of things here so maybe folks will notice -sorry for doing it this way but this is the only forum where I would really be interested in what people think about this :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:
had to come back i do definitely want to hear the mothman bit some day!! that kind of stuff fascinates me!-Z
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Postby OP ED » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:53 pm

several subbranches of eastern mysticism hold rather elaborate structures for the human bioelectrical field. it is likewise, in general, for the west, although since the rise of monotheism this knowledge has had a narrower reach and lost its import to the majority of humans thereabouts. (Egyptians and Sumerians, for ex., both had rather complicated understandings of the human soul and the life/death/relife process)

my ideas on the hologrammatic nature of spacetime are not entirely dissimilar from what is implied by your suggestions.

my views on such things are not dogmatic and have changed considerably over time as i should expect they shall continue to. i do not think of it in terms of material and spiritual "realms" so much as rather misunderstood electromagnetic effects, which is to say, that there are an infinite number of possible channels to tune into, only a certain bandwidth can support human consciousness, and consciousness exists simultaneously across them all even if it is unaware of this most of the time.

i am actually in the process of converting my "mothman" [i dunno wtf it was] experience from my journals into an digital document. i will prolly post is shortly thereafter. i've been converting my journals for a bit now, because they were so disorganized that remembering anything in the correct order (esp. considering the amount of drugs i do sometimes) was becoming a chore in and of itself.

the mothman was the icing on a very big cake. it won't be tomorrow, but this is where i'll put it when i'm finished.

the xtian drivers in AZ have nothing on the Muslim drivers in Dearborn/East Detroit.

(joke, kinda)

my girl will be home now in less than a month. maybe less than that. i'm whittling away at her.

thank you for the compliment wrt my words comrade Zhiv. i have considered writing for money before, but i don't know anyone who would publish something by me. (i've come close, but never sealed any deals)

i am currently working on an manifesto for my reorganizations of A:.A:. methodologies. sort of esoteric propoganda in the tradition of the RC brotherhoods and the tricksters who made things like the Magic Calendar or the Necronomicon. i've been doing experiments for years and have finally found a propogations approach i plan to make into my own corner of "art" so to speak.

more on this later. indeed, more on this is one of the reasons i came back to RI, as i am always looking for ideas to expand and improve my propogations.
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Postby Perelandra » Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:29 pm

OP ED wrote:i really do like this one darling. you changed it, yes?
do you know what this one is called or who did it?

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I should have known about the frogs. (The sunday school makes me smile.)

The frogs here are tiny, not the kind you eat, but back home, yeah. I still wouldn't eat it unless it was as you describe. (fresh, etc.) With lots of garlic and parsley, a key to pretty food. One of my fierce avocations is food in general and growing and cooking it. I like to know the sources. I have a beloved relative far away who is a great hunter, I believe because he has respect for and knowledge of the animals. He kills several deer each year, some with a bow, and gives his excess to people who don't have any. I used to get some, sigh.
I have a better understanding of the Frog Ritual after doing some reading.

The image is titled, Agneta and the Sea King, by John Bauer, apparently a Swedish folk tale. Now you shall be my queen and stay with me forever, reads the subtitle. Here's a link http://www.florisbooks.co.uk/books/9780863154577 for a book I may have to purchase.

Z, I don't know anything for sure, but did you see in another thread the recommended book, The Holographic Universe? I have to get that one, too. Wanted to tell you that I got a kitty from the humane society and if he stays, he needs a better name than Jesse. I was thinking Jeoffrey after the poem I posted for you. Any ideas are welcome as I like your kitty's name.

Oh yeah, I'll take some Valium, thanks sweetie!
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Postby Perelandra » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:13 pm

OP ED wrote:the talbot book?

its pretty good.
I just bought it. Are there any similar, yet accessible, books that you like better?

I'm popping in and out of this, among others, at present, but my poor brain can only take so much.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QED:_The_Strange_Theory_of_Light_and_Matter

I forgot to mention before that I think it's good to kill some of your own food, although I don't know if I could do anything more than a fish. Which brings to mind one of the most wonderful meals anyone could have - fresh walleye. I'm sure you must know what I mean.
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