image dump (warning: disturbing/annoying objects present)

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below, dirty old men from the decannonical parts of Daniel.















Hunt supposedly got the "3 mirrors" idea (stolen/parodied often since)for the famous painting above from Blake's Illustration of Job and Daughters below.



(i cannot verify this, but wiki agrees)








(the spear is a forgery, but the nail at least dates approximately)




(fasces on armrests, and on dime below)







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I actually really like Hunt. (mentioned above, famous painting)
he has the attention to detail that was advertantly absent among much of his contemporary culture and immediate predecessors. (thee William Blake is an exception, as were some of Hunt's friends)

he could do pretty pictures like Lady above, but i really find his religous works to be the most compelling.








the bottom two above are, IMO, especially striking as they have a quality to them that i find personally sort of creepy or paranoid. i really like them.

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hope things are well.

more later.

P.S.

Elohim creates Man via Blake below.

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Compare Blake's "Job's evil Dreams" above with the last image in the previous post.

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[annie aronburg]

The drape of the cloth is breathtaking.

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The drape of the cloth is breathtaking.

full size picture at the relevant wikilink below. also the source of at least one of my other pictures on page 43.

i steal loads from wiki. if i was a computer virus, i'd live on their servers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melchizadek

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I had to find out what the "liberty cap" was. Interestingly, wiki ties it to faeries, which reminds me of these:



which are tied to Priapus:



and ultimately Hermes:



All of which I found recently in another research. Wiki is very cool sometimes.

Noticing the motif again. Nice illustration. Russian folk tale?

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I had to find out what the "liberty cap" was. Interestingly, wiki ties it to faeries, which reminds me of these:
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which are tied to Priapus:
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and ultimately Hermes:
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All of which I found recently in another research. Wiki is very cool sometimes.
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Noticing the motif again. Nice illustration. Russian folk tale?

Alexander Nikolayevich Afanasyev collected near ten times as many fairy/folk tales as the Brothers Grimm. Russian, yes. Probably also via wiki or secondhand via google.

(many of my google searches give me wiki links)

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the conical hat is a favorite motif for the modern wizard archtype.

(everything eventually leads back to hermes)

the hat, as far as my own research has concluded, seems to pop up in the form worn by fairies and gnomes via the scythians. it was worn by their cannibis priesthood when they took to smoking at funerals and fertility festivals.

According to Jack Herer and "Flesh of The Gods" (Emboden, W.A., Jr., Praeger Press, NY, 1974.); the ancient Scythians grew hemp and harvested it with a hand reaper that we still call a scythe. Cannabis inhalation by the Scythians in funeral rituals was recorded by the Greek Historian Herodotus (circa 450 B.C.) in the early 5th Century B.C. The nomadic Scythians introduced the custom to other races such as the Thracians.

The distribution of Y-chromosome haplogroup (G2) from Pakistan and northwest India and out to Spain rather closely mirrors the spread of the Scythians, Sarmatians, and their offshoot, the Alans. Haplogroup G2 reaches its highest worldwide concentration in the Caucasian Russian Republic of North Ossetia-Alania, and the present-day Ossetians, who speak a Scythian Northeast Iranic language are the last remnant of the ancient Alans. Although this may be indirect evidence of Scythian "genetic legacy", it is likewise of Neolithic origin and cannot be used as a one-to-one identification of Scythian ancestry.

interestingly, as an aside, Mr. Crowley made reference to the scythian use of THC in their fertility rites as having been imported into the post-gnostic type of the Graeco-Roman Priapus worship, and then makes the obvious joke about the hats. i cannot remember where though. in the Equinox volumes, somewhere.

The people briefly mentioned in the Bible as "Ashkenaz" — perhaps as a result of ancient Hebrew alphabet misreading: אשכנז instead of the correct אשכוז (= Ashkūz), in Genesis 10:3 and 1 Chronicles 1:6 — traced their ancestry back through Gomer to Noah's third son, Japheth. The Book of Jeremiah 51:27, mentions Ashkenaz in connection with the kingdoms of Ararat and Minni (in the Taurus Mountains), together with the Medes — and portrays them all as hostile to Babylon. They are also mentioned in 2 Maccabees 4:47.

the modern usage of the term "ashkenazi(c) jews" is probably a direct result of the Hebrew mispronunciation of a scythian king's name/title.

that conclusion is based on my own research, but is tangentially related, and i can make a good case for it. (what the medieval jews meant by the word is mostly irrelevant to what it may've meant to the genesis writers)

lots of the people living in the "stans" seem to claim descent from scythian culture/people and it was vogue in the last two centuries to assume that the central russians were of their blood. this is unlikely, though they show religious similarities. the Kazahks, the Pashtuns, and even the Serbs, on the other hand, may very well be related to the tribe who caused trouble for everyone from King Solomon to Caesar Augustus and in-between.

(stoned archers on horses in uneven grounds = downfall of phalanx tactics)

hope that makes it more confusing.





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(combining THC and Viagra is a leading cause of Priapism in the United States, a condition for which there can only be one good solution)

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hope that makes it more confusing.

Enjoyably so. I knew bits and pieces about the Scythians from previous reading (haven't read "Flesh of the Gods"). I suppose the Phrygians got in on the act as well.

The garden gnome/Priapus connection amused me when I came across it recently, so obviously the "liberty cap" jumped out at me, so to speak. Think I'll place some less than obviously phallic symbol in the garden, lest my neighbors become (more) uneasy.

Now I'm off on another tangent, so much to read and so little time. I just found this little gem:

"O, wayfarer, thou shalt fear this god and hold thy hand high: this is worth thy while, for lo! there stands ready thy cross, the phallus …" (Virgil, Priapea 2.16).

Thanks for the info on the Russian.
>> Hermes...I know.

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hope that makes it more confusing.

Enjoyably so. I knew bits and pieces about the Scythians from previous reading (haven't read "Flesh of the Gods"). I suppose the Phrygians got in on the act as well.

Phrygians indeed. (i'll tell you tomorrow why the phrygians = scythians, it'd take longer than i have tonite)

they're the key that unlocks all the interesting doors, really.



(same shit different day?)

The garden gnome/Priapus connection amused me when I came across it recently, so obviously the "liberty cap" jumped out at me, so to speak. Think I'll place some less than obvious phallic symbol in the garden, lest my neighbors become (more) uneasy.

Now I'm off on another tangent, so much to read and so little time. I just found this little gem:

"O, wayfarer, thou shalt fear this god and hold thy hand high: this is worth thy while, for lo! there stands ready thy cross, the phallus …" (Virgil, Priapea 2.16).

Thanks for the info on the Russian.
>> Hermes...I know.

re: Hermes: makes it difficult to find "less than obviously phallic" symbols of any sort.

more later.

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hope that makes it more confusing.

Enjoyably so. I knew bits and pieces about the Scythians from previous reading (haven't read "Flesh of the Gods"). I suppose the Phrygians got in on the act as well.

Phrygians indeed. (i'll tell you tomorrow why the phrygians = scythians, it'd take longer than i have tonite)

they're the key that unlocks all the interesting doors, really.

Wow, they really are, huh? A mixed Turkic and Indo-European kingdom sounds very, very rich, I just always assumed they were dudes on horseback with arrows who anatagonized foot-troops.

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not literally, of course.

(somehow i think you've been a bit too trusting of those ancient greek historians who thought the scythians were Hyperborean)

(neither the Phrygians nor the Scythians had distinct ethnic or linguistic uniformity. only their religion and lifestyle connected them, the Phrygians were eventually subsumed into the related Cimmerians, who were Sarmatians, which is just another word for a sub-branch of Scythian tribes or the scythians are their sub branch depending on linguistic theories, almost all Sarmatian groups spoke indigenous languages except the ruling class who generally spoke an Iranian dialect)

(turks are indo-europeans, as I don't buy the circa 1840s idea that Turkic is a seperate language group, i consider it more likely that the borrowing links are among the dozens of no longer existant languages among the related nomadic pastoralist [Alans, Byrges, Sicambrians, Briganti, Ughyurs, etc] that were swept up by either the Archmaneid Dynasties or the Alexandrian Empire)

[any that survived that wouldn't have survived the Mongols]

I'm not literally claiming that there was political unity or even proximal unity between the same groups, merely that they share cultural traits probably from the same sources and that there really isn't much, if any, evidence to suggest that there was much distinction between the contemporary groups (from their own POV esp.) and that our classifying them into distinct kinds of barbarian invaders owes more to having multiple sources disagreeing on terminologies than it does to reflecting a reality of them being ethnically distinct peoples.

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part of the problem is that the nomadic pastoralist lifestyle and tribal structures predate the Bronze Age. We really don't know that much about them and most of the information we have is second guessed from Greek Historians who thought that their magic polar kingdom was real...

(hyperboreans anyone?)

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which is to say that both groups, IMO, appear to be cultural descendants of Thracian/Sarmatian "Sea-Peoples" and the disparity in terminologies is a fault of the Greeks tendency to naming nomads after whatever the greek name for dirt they were currently standing on happened to be.