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[Perelandra]

re: Hermes: makes it difficult to find "less than obviously phallic" symbols of any sort.

Sorry, I don't quite know your meaning here, although I have some ideas.
Oh, and thank you for the history.










Next one for zhiv.



OK, I dare. Did the cat go the way of the frog, or were you in a foreign country?

[OP ED]

(deer and eggs)



(tomorrow is meat loaf day. more deer, cow, pig, and lamb. mmmm. also eggs. m.)


also toast.



(just because)

[OP ED]

as bigs as it canz go. sorry.

military manuevers above my neighborhood?

[OP ED]

re: Hermes: makes it difficult to find "less than obviously phallic" symbols of any sort.

Sorry, I don't quite know your meaning here, although I have some ideas.
Oh, and thank you for the history.

...

OK, I dare. Did the cat go the way of the frog, or were you in a foreign country?

quite simple really: Hermes is uberphallic, therefore everything devolves to freudianism eventually. not particularly suprising either, i suppose.

btw, i actually haven't posted the information yet. all i have done so far is a summary of my position. i've been trying to find a way to access the relevant information without having to type out long passages from several dozens of books. wiki is helping and i will get to more detail eventually.

re: cats:

which time? i've eaten felines on at least six occassions (5 cats, i ate one of the bigger ones over two days).

they really aren't very good.

(three house cat types, a bobcat type and a cougar type)

only one of these, the last, was in a foreign country. although two of the housecats were at ethnic restaurants.

[nathan28]

i can't imagine cat tastes good at all. they're obligate carnivores (and, at that, probably nature's highest-strung animal), i imagine it's kind of like chewing and chewing on a stringy block of ammonia.

i'd love to hear your grand narrative, op ed, i am more of a polemicist myself (ENTJ, if you believe in astrology) and always respect anyone's ability to synthesize rather than destroy

[OP ED]

[insert mildly offensive "pussy" innuendo here]

you can cook anything right. oddly, cat actually DOES taste sort of like chicken. stringy, yes.

(the bigger the cat is, the better the meat, mostly on account of there being more of it)

most of my grand narratives are less than inspiring.

it is what i come here for though. that is, inspiration.

after i've finished completing my manifesto, i'll likely go back underground for a bit. i didn't go to all the trouble of meeting the secret chiefs and establishing semi-autonomous branch of the A:.A:. just so i could i chat about it online.

my interests in the nomadic pastoralists was largely an mere outgrowth of my lifelong obsession with graeco-roman history. started with Caesar for sure. i've always had a soft spot for the bloke. i think mostly on account of being raised in Baptist schools. they always made the Romans out to be the bad guys, and i always felt that The Divine Julius, esp., got a bad wrap. From my POV, i'm pretty sure he never even broke any Roman laws. if they'd have just let him have his cake and eat it too...

(i feel the same way about many of the "bad guys" in the historical narrative) for example, i think we'd all have been better off with leaving Napoleon in charge. he had deep socialist tendencies. he really just wanted to be in charge and he wasn't any worse at it than the kings club was. could've saved us a century of "progress".

i've assembled the various wiki links i require, i think, to glue together my Scythians collections. it'll take me a day or two to arrange it properly, but i'll likely start posting it on here this evening.

(wiki has it all, just not all in the same place, from what i can tell)

i do not believe in astrology, nathan, but i do not NOT believe in astrology. if that makes sense.

i have destroyer tendencies myself, so i sympathize.

transynthesis is easier to do than to spell, really.

[nathan28]

[insert mildly offensive "pussy" innuendo here]

you can cook anything right. oddly, cat actually DOES taste sort of like chicken. stringy, yes.

(the bigger the cat is, the better the meat, mostly on account of there being more of it)

most of my grand narratives are less than inspiring.

it is what i come here for though. that is, inspiration.

after i've finished completing my manifesto, i'll likely go back underground for a bit. i didn't go to all the trouble of meeting the secret chiefs and establishing semi-autonomous branch of the A:.A:. just so i could i chat about it online.

my interests in the nomadic pastoralists was largely an mere outgrowth of my lifelong obsession with graeco-roman history. started with Caesar for sure. i've always had a soft spot for the bloke. i think mostly on account of being raised in Baptist schools. they always made the Romans out to be the bad guys, and i always felt that The Divine Julius, esp., got a bad wrap. From my POV, i'm pretty sure he never even broke any Roman laws. if they'd have just let him have his cake and eat it too...

(i feel the same way about many of the "bad guys" in the historical narrative) for example, i think we'd all have been better off with leaving Napoleon in charge. he had deep socialist tendencies. he really just wanted to be in charge and he wasn't any worse at it than the kings club was. could've saved us a century of "progress".

i've assembled the various wiki links i require, i think, to glue together my Scythians collections. it'll take me a day or two to arrange it properly, but i'll likely start posting it on here this evening.

(wiki has it all, just not all in the same place, from what i can tell)

i do not believe in astrology, nathan, but i do not NOT believe in astrology. if that makes sense.

i have destroyer tendencies myself, so i sympathize.

transynthesis is easier to do than to spell, really.

the secret cheifs, huh? i don't have the energy to participate in that type of space opera right now, sadly, since i'm much more focused on getting off the wheel as we call it (and more immediately getting my overtime pay for the past two months). maybe later, when my concentration is stronger.

that, and i'm afraid (well, not in the sense of fear. intellectual, really) of the synarchists grafted onto or stage-managing the space opera. over on the general discussion side wombat. r. said defining the questions you want answered helps, but truth be told there's too many blind alleys in this one

[Perelandra]

quite simple really: Hermes is uberphallic, therefore everything devolves to freudianism eventually. not particularly surprising either, i suppose.

OK, that's what I thought initially. Symbols are of the Logos.
Mercury has personal meaning for me.

btw, i actually haven't posted the information yet. all i have done so far is a summary of my position. i've been trying to find a way to access the relevant information without having to type out long passages from several dozens of books. wiki is helping and i will get to more detail eventually.

I usually am limited to taking in information in bits and pieces, but will be interested to read more when it appears.

INTP here.
More later.

[Penguin]

Secret chiefs?
Care to elaborate on that?
(I have my reasons to be interested, accepting PMs as well. Or a strict hell no if Im unworthy )

Or yes, I am familiar with the idea, but Id love to hear from someone who personally claims to have contact. Lets just say that I have my suspicions of having, crossed paths perhaps, with some similar phenomenon. Or then it is simply my vivid imagination. Ill tell you more OP ED by PM if you like.

[Penguin]

Wayward wizard
Tread lightly
Drink the sights
Open your soul
Look in the eye
I am the gateway
I am the corner
I am the way out
I am the end
The mirror, the dreamer and the dreamed
I am already dead
So I have nothing to fear

[OP ED]

the secret cheifs, huh? i don't have the energy to participate in that type of space opera right now, sadly, since i'm much more focused on getting off the wheel as we call it (and more immediately getting my overtime pay for the past two months). maybe later, when my concentration is stronger.

secret chiefs is a loaded term, i know. it also makes them sound more exciting than they really are.

(you do not always get a choice, at least not a real one)

space opera? (too many movies)

it isn't nearly as spectacular as it sounds. most of the impossible things that have happened weren't particularly obvious to innocent bystanders.

i haven't worked a real job in years. i've been thinking of getting back to, so's i do not forget how to do it. those of us still working on finishing universtity are relegated to the factories and/or service industries around here. (and the factories ain't hiring and won't be anytime soon) so i'm not in a particular hurry, really.

that, and i'm afraid (well, not in the sense of fear. intellectual, really) of the synarchists grafted onto or stage-managing the space opera. over on the general discussion side wombat. r. said defining the questions you want answered helps, but truth be told there's too many blind alleys in this one

i don't know from synarchists. i don't take orders from anyone, so it really isn't relevant. what i am referring to is, perhaps, something somewhat more abstract and possibly less human, although i understand that that also probably doesn't help and makes it sound exaggerated. i could tell you stories, but they wouldn't do well to support my suggestions or to enhance my reputation. (high weirdness)

i use the relevant side-effect connections primarily as a resource for information i am lacking and/or for social networking.

thee O.T.O.'s have largely forgotten how to facilitate contact, with exceptions of course. it seems to be spotty even among the the well-educated and/or highly initiated circles. most of those places are just clubs for hedonists or crypto-conservatives.

it isn't particularly hard to accomplish, really, but it isn't something you want to dabble in either.
(sometimes you forfeit your rights to a real choice this way)

no takebacks. there is nothing to prevent me from leaving, so to speak, but i couldn't now even if i wanted to.

(too deep)

Secret chiefs?
Care to elaborate on that?
(I have my reasons to be interested, accepting PMs as well. Or a strict hell no if Im unworthy )

Or yes, I am familiar with the idea, but Id love to hear from someone who personally claims to have contact. Lets just say that I have my suspicions of having, crossed paths perhaps, with some similar phenomenon. Or then it is simply my vivid imagination. Ill tell you more OP ED by PM if you like.

(it was simply my vivid imagination for a number of years, as i was stalked across spacetime. be sure your sins will find you out)


to begin with it was like "touched by an angel" moreso than anything lovecraftian. except, y'know without the moral platitudes at the end of each adventure.

helpful people committing minor violations of local accepted reality rules. herding you in a certain direction. towards something personally seemingly inevitable.

("destiny is the elusively simple matter of becoming who you are")

it goes downhill from there into outright woo and MIB nonsense and i ended up finding people, through these occurrences, who could help to explain things (not really, but it is hard to condense) and help me regain a sense of mental balance, as it were.

(file under moves in mysterious)

a lot of the experiences are strange and unbelievable. some were merely strangely coincidental or not easily explainable.
(a couple were actually impossible too, but these are rather the exception)

some of it was rather personal, so will likely never make it into any accounting i'd ever give to anyone.

nathan is correct to be cautious. probably even moreso than most would think. as i've been told: there are usually a lot more than two sides to anything.

what're you looking for, stories of weirdness? stock tips? secret handshakes?

i think some manifestations are extremely related to other types of weirdness, but i don't claim to be able to explain how it all works.

[Penguin]

Thanks for your reply, OP ED. I might write you a bit later.
No secret handshakes, thanks And definitely not stock tips.

[nathan28]

Secret Cheifs:

from my casual reading, the Secret Cheif conceit dates to the 18th Century at least. There was a French secret society with a political-occult orientation that initiated a character who'd go on to found his own society and was fairly prominent. All the names escape me at the moment (i know some German, but french is foreign to me). These guys were so secret, though, that when they initiated this guy and met with him, they were always masked. Forget secret handshakes, these guys didn't even know what each other looked like.

Anyway, eventually they stop contacting this dude. In all likelihood these secret masters got executed, what with their agenda and all, save this one guy. Reign of Terror, etc. Anyway, a little later, he founds his own order, patiently waiting on the Secret Cheifs.

So then St. Yves, "founder" of synarchy, grandfather of the Changing Images of Man project before SRI had even been founded, picks this up and runs with it. He inserts spiritual hidden masters from Agartha and Shambala into his racist-monarchist mystical narrative, and decides that these guys are so secret, they're not just masked, they don't physically exist. Theosophists go apeshit over this and it plays really well with Mdm Blavatsky's psychic schtick.

Anyway so a little later Aleister Crowley is out in the desert with is boyfriend Victor Neuberg, either invoking Choronzon or the spirit of an Egyptian workman (you decide!). To Mega T. is taking it the hard way and suddenly, white, robed figures appear before him. Probably pretty embarassing, but that's how it works. The Secret Cheifs of the Great White Brotherhood impart a whole bunch of knowledge about sex magick, sprituality, etc., or something like that. 0=2, 5=6, genitals as an appendage like the hand or foot blah blah blah, etc., etc.

There is probably a lot of conflation in this narrative, it's all from memory. It's also probably riddled with someone else's deliberate misinformation, though i'm presenting it in good faith.

So the Secret Cheifs are some head-honcho type non-physical entities out there to help humanity, or whatever. If you're a crypto-traditionalist like me, you'll say, "what's the point? i don't take orders from no entities" and if you're a little paranoid, you'll question why the Secret Cheif narrative has insinuated itself so thoroughly in the New Age, which sure lines up nicely with Changing Images of Man, don't it? etc.

[nathan28]

"Space opera" was a coinage by L. Ron to describe his own myths.

I have a Jacques Vallee-esque attitude to some of this stuff... someone is benefitting from it, if they aren't controlling it (i doubt it can be controlled in a reliable way).

i understand "more abstract and possibly less human". It is like the 'angelic" and "archangelic" in Steiner's schema.

i use the relevant side-effect connections primarily as a resource for information i am lacking and/or for social networking.

thee O.T.O.'s have largely forgotten how to facilitate contact, with exceptions of course. it seems to be spotty even among the the well-educated and/or highly initiated circles. most of those places are just clubs for hedonists or crypto-conservatives.

well how hard is it to facilitate contact? triangle + incense (+ drugs)? a little bit of effort to seem serious enough? less comic books, more weird-ass shit!

i'm too obsessive-compulsive and antisocial (Cluster A) for occult orders (Cluster B). most of the occultists i've met you wouldn't trust to to wake up to feed your dog, let alone start fucking with major energies, and are hopelessly out of touch with the rest of the world. I guess i'm really a square at heart.

it isn't particularly hard to accomplish, really, but it isn't something you want to dabble in either.
(sometimes you forfeit your rights to a real choice this way)

no takebacks. there is nothing to prevent me from leaving, so to speak, but i couldn't now even if i wanted to.

(too deep)

Secret chiefs?
Care to elaborate on that?
(I have my reasons to be interested, accepting PMs as well. Or a strict hell no if Im unworthy )

Or yes, I am familiar with the idea, but Id love to hear from someone who personally claims to have contact. Lets just say that I have my suspicions of having, crossed paths perhaps, with some similar phenomenon. Or then it is simply my vivid imagination. Ill tell you more OP ED by PM if you like.

(it was simply my vivid imagination for a number of years, as i was stalked across spacetime. be sure your sins will find you out)


to begin with it was like "touched by an angel" moreso than anything lovecraftian. except, y'know without the moral platitudes at the end of each adventure.

helpful people committing minor violations of local accepted reality rules. herding you in a certain direction. towards something personally seemingly inevitable.

("destiny is the elusively simple matter of becoming who you are")[/quote]

it goes downhill from there into outright woo and MIB nonsense and i ended up finding people, through these occurrences, who could help to explain things (not really, but it is hard to condense) and help me regain a sense of mental balance, as it were.

I've never gotten real coherent narrative of that sort. i mean, i have, but way, way too boring. more like a character study than a narrative.

some of it was rather personal, so will likely never make it into any accounting i'd ever give to anyone.

nathan is correct to be cautious. probably even moreso than most would think. as i've been told: there are usually a lot more than two sides to anything.

"the tears you are weeping now are just your answered prayers"

i don't think i could ever, ever impress this fully enough. anyone interested in this game should read about the sword of damocles and the monkey's paw.

what're you looking for, stories of weirdness? stock tips? secret handshakes?

stock tips? that's what goetia is for

[Penguin]

Im not interested in any kind of games.
Was just inquiring out of curiosity.

My main interest being, what is reality, and what is life.
And what is freedom.