The “Alternative Right"

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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:53 pm

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:02 pm

American Dream » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:41 pm wrote:Did Jeff give truly informed consent for you to be sole moderator, given your position(s) vis a vis the far right?

It's hard for me to imagine that he did....


He did not. You should probably fix that. Otherwise what kind of revolutionary are you, bro?

I think the "Far Right" is every bit as insular, useless and doomed as your comrades on the Far Left, and y'all deserve each other. Forever.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:21 pm

I have been a nuisance to you for years and I am really sorry for that...you are the lone glue that keeps this place from falling apart........I am going to try my damnedest to not trouble you in the future
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:27 pm

seemslikeadream » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:21 pm wrote:I have been a nuisance to you for years and I am really sorry for that...you are the lone glue that keeps this place from falling apart........I am going to try my damnedest to not trouble you in the future


I'm just a moderator, y'all are the glue.

I know this because I can go months at a time without doing anything and RI still flows every day.

Trouble away, trouble away.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Iamwhomiam » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:36 pm

I'm disappointed by your poor reaction, AD. It's not like Rex called you a sanctimonious prick, or slighted you in any way. Nor did Mr. WRex infer anything of your thoughts, but was sharing his. Although I've read little of your postings, Rex, seems to have been nothing more than truthful towards Jackell.

Wombaticus Rex » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:27 pm wrote:
jakell » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:36 am wrote:Is this guy alt-right?

It sounds like this belongs in one of your more spiritually orientated threads AD (I can think of several) and you are getting muddled again


Alt-Right is Fascism is Racism is Nationalism is Nazism.

You keep trying to tease out some kind of nuance -- or even, wildly, to insist that there are genuine and important differences between any of these concepts.

Also, all of those concepts are Neo-Reactionary, which is The Dark Enlightenment which is MRA.

AD has been spelling this out for y'all for years and you keep pretending the world is somehow more complicated...


It seems to me, and I could be wrong, of course, but this is much my thinking of your work here. And Rex's second sentence seems accurate of those taking issue with you for your postings. I don't believe in any way Rex's observation obscures more than it reveals - its a few lines of easily overlooked text, for goodness sake!

I can't see it as a justification for the far right shit that seems to be more prevalent than ever before. Perhaps that's our job to call out, but his to quite the flames. Most seem to self immolate after a time, anyway.

Of course, if you wrote you own blog...
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:39 pm

I know that DrVolin is the one that does all the heavy lifting around here :P but you do step in when needed


btw who is this Jeff everyone keeps talking about?
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby jakell » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:47 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:27 pm wrote:
jakell » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:36 am wrote:Is this guy alt-right?

It sounds like this belongs in one of your more spiritually orientated threads AD (I can think of several) and you are getting muddled again


Alt-Right is Fascism is Racism is Nationalism is Nazism.

You keep trying to tease out some kind of nuance -- or even, wildly, to insist that there are genuine and important differences between any of these concepts.

Also, all of those concepts are Neo-Reactionary, which is The Dark Enlightenment which is MRA.

AD has been spelling this out for y'all for years and you keep pretending the world is somehow more complicated...


TBH. I've been railing against both extremes. Too few threads would be as bad as the 20+ that seem to be active at present, and with a large number, it's not surprising AD is getting a bit lost.
There's some good stuff here, but such a large amount of data needs properly collating.

How about it AD? I reckon 6-7 threads would more than serve the subject adequately. I'm guessing that alt-right represents a fairly secular and internet-age way of thinking, and all the pagan/spirituality stuff is more towards the traditionalist end of things
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby American Dream » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:03 pm

Iamwhomiam » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:36 pm wrote:
Wombaticus Rex » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:27 pm wrote:
jakell » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:36 am wrote:Is this guy alt-right?

It sounds like this belongs in one of your more spiritually orientated threads AD (I can think of several) and you are getting muddled again


Alt-Right is Fascism is Racism is Nationalism is Nazism.

You keep trying to tease out some kind of nuance -- or even, wildly, to insist that there are genuine and important differences between any of these concepts.

Also, all of those concepts are Neo-Reactionary, which is The Dark Enlightenment which is MRA.

AD has been spelling this out for y'all for years and you keep pretending the world is somehow more complicated...


It seems to me, and I could be wrong, of course, but this is much my thinking of your work here. And Rex's second sentence seems accurate of those taking issue with you for your postings. I don't believe in any way Rex's observation obscures more than it reveals - its a few lines of easily overlooked text, for goodness sake!



Actually it is a very distorted representation of my thoughts- and an unsubstantiated one at that. That is why I see it as a "straw man" argument.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby jakell » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:50 pm

American Dream » Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:03 pm wrote:
Actually it is a very distorted representation of my thoughts- and an unsubstantiated one at that. That is why I see it as a "straw man" argument.


Speaking as a relative newcomer, as I suspect that people's impressions of you are from way back, your 'thoughts' are unclear.
You rarely say anything but just present the (usually well-written) thoughts of others with little to no accompanying comments or pattern. This last is why I try to encourage you to at least present your stuff in some sort of order.

The big temptation is to assume that your thoughts coincide with the articles you post. The trouble with this is that anyone could adopt an internet persona using this method, it's pretty low-brow and I've come across it before. Another problem with this is that people have differing perspectives on such material anyway, and therefore are often viewing their own projections rather than the opinions of another, leading to a large degree of confirmation bias.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:02 pm

American Dream » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:03 pm wrote:Actually it is a very distorted representation of my thoughts- and an unsubstantiated one at that. That is why I see it as a "straw man" argument.


To be clear with everyone here, I agree with AD; I am mocking him...

...not making a serious assessment about his stated beliefs, which after all amount to a general pledge to be Anti-Bad Things, and a whole lot of drive-by insinuations about RI being taken over by StormFront, which is endlessly entertaining coming from the single biggest source of swaztikas, hotlinked .jpg hatespeech, and Hymie caricatures that this forum has ever known.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby American Dream » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:09 pm

And that's the current state of our anti-fascist board, unfortunately...
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Karmamatterz » Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:30 pm

The insult, inspired by a specialized porn genre in which white “hotwives” have sex with black men while their white “cuckold” husbands watch, is intended to suggest not just emasculation but also a kind of racial treason. Or at least that’s what the insult originally meant; at this point it gets thrown at anyone and everyone who stands in the way of the Trump revolution — including women, who by definition can’t be “cucked.”


AD,
Regarding the screenshot and article. The last thing I thought of when I saw the image was anything to do with racism. Plenty of woman have cuckolded their husbands and partners with men of the same race. If you've never been married or have had children of your own you probably haven't much of an understanding of what cuckolding is or means. It's been around for centuries before people of different color skin lived around each other as we do today. Men who prefer to have their wife or life partner be loyal and monagomous with them generally don't want their spouse out fucking other men. They sure as hell don't want to raise a child fathered by some random dude or from an affair. Thus these men will ridicule men that are okay with being cucked.

Most decent masculine males, at least the ones I know, don't go out of their way to ridicule men that have been trapped/tricked into being a cuckold. They will be more disgusted that the woman did that to their friend, neighbor coworker etc...It's only the extreme jerks that get off throwing insults and labeling others to make themselves feel better that do such things. They see the cuckolded as weak pansy betas. Masculinity scares some people. Healthy masculine males that are confident and secure in their mental point of origin generally don't engage in that crap. It's easy to label a masculine male as a fascist or rascist because that fear can make a less masculine male feel very uncomfortable. Labeling a masculine male in such a way is a bit lazy, it doesn't require one to understand what they are and their healthy characteristics.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby jakell » Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:52 am

I also thought that the linking of 'cuckolding' with race was a glaring factual error. So much so that I often wonder if the purveyors of this are concerned with truth and assume their readers are of the same mind.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Jerky » Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:51 am

Did you just use the word "beta" in a non-ironic way?

Karmamatterz » 15 Apr 2016 03:30 wrote:
The insult, inspired by a specialized porn genre in which white “hotwives” have sex with black men while their white “cuckold” husbands watch, is intended to suggest not just emasculation but also a kind of racial treason. Or at least that’s what the insult originally meant; at this point it gets thrown at anyone and everyone who stands in the way of the Drumpf revolution — including women, who by definition can’t be “cucked.”


AD,
Regarding the screenshot and article. The last thing I thought of when I saw the image was anything to do with racism. Plenty of woman have cuckolded their husbands and partners with men of the same race. If you've never been married or have had children of your own you probably haven't much of an understanding of what cuckolding is or means. It's been around for centuries before people of different color skin lived around each other as we do today. Men who prefer to have their wife or life partner be loyal and monagomous with them generally don't want their spouse out fucking other men. They sure as hell don't want to raise a child fathered by some random dude or from an affair. Thus these men will ridicule men that are okay with being cucked.

Most decent masculine males, at least the ones I know, don't go out of their way to ridicule men that have been trapped/tricked into being a cuckold. They will be more disgusted that the woman did that to their friend, neighbor coworker etc...It's only the extreme jerks that get off throwing insults and labeling others to make themselves feel better that do such things. They see the cuckolded as weak pansy betas. Masculinity scares some people. Healthy masculine males that are confident and secure in their mental point of origin generally don't engage in that crap. It's easy to label a masculine male as a fascist or rascist because that fear can make a less masculine male feel very uncomfortable. Labeling a masculine male in such a way is a bit lazy, it doesn't require one to understand what they are and their healthy characteristics.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Jerky » Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:53 am

The word has a long history, but make no mistake about the origins of the term "cuck" - it is 100% racial in its current context. The alt-right folks use it as a catch-all insult for any Republican who doesn't despise Mexicans and Blacks as much as they do.

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jakell » 15 Apr 2016 07:52 wrote:I also thought that the linking of 'cuckolding' with race was a glaring factual error. So much so that I often wonder if the purveyors of this are concerned with truth and assume their readers are of the same mind.
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