Ted Gunderson

by **chiggerbit** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:54 pm

I'll start with the original data dump on Ted Gunderson from Virginia McCullough at NewsMakingNews, then will try to be fair and include links pro and con. <a href="http://www.newsmakingnews.com/gunderson.htm">www.newsmakingnews.com/gunderson.htm</a> <a href="http:.//www.newsmakingnews.com">/www.newsmakingnews.com</a> THE TED (EX? FBI AGENT?) GUNDERSON DATA DUMP! Who is this "former" FBI agent who shows up every time a woman and her children are in peril because of Satanists or child molesters? And has Gunderson ever provided professional investigative services which assisted a prosecutor to convict a pedophile, drug dealer or con artist of a crime after trial by jury? To read the RE-DUMP OF 8/5/00, Click. WHO IS THIS TED GUNDERSON, WHO FRAMED, TRIED AND SENTENCED, ART BELL WITHOUT A TRIAL! ART BELL RETIRES! BUT BELL HAS SUED GUNDERSON? STAY TUNED! On April 1st, 2000, in the second hour of his talk radio program hearing by 15 million fans, Art Bell announced his retirement from radio broadcasting. Art Bell's announcement: In order that you all understand the gravity of the announcement I'm about to make, it's going to be necessary for me to repeat some very painful events that have occurred to my family over the past several years. On May 16th of the year 1997, my son, Art Bell IV, was kidnapped, transported across state lines and raped by a substitute teacher from his own high school. The assailant was HIV positive. My son was a minor. He was only 16 years old at the time. The teacher involved was tried, convicted and is now serving a life sentence. My son though, as you might imagine, was sent into a psychological tailspin which continues to this very day. We are trying very very hard to help him recover and lead a more normal life. Some positive events have occurred toward that end and your prayers are welcome. Please keep them coming. While the police work and the trial of my son's assailant were underway, difficult as it was for me to continue my daily radio programs, I did so. Because my son was a minor at the time of the crime, the records were sealed, his name was not made public, something our society does to protect its own, its future, its young people. As our family was working through this trauma in private, an event beyond all bounds of decency and humanity occurred. On December 9th of 1997, just a few months after my son's ordeal, my own began. Ted Gunderson, a retired FBI agent, along with David Hinkson and the assistance of others, aired a broadcast which - incredibly, absolutely incredibly - accused me of committing the very same crime my son had suffered, child molestation. The program further stated that I had paid to cover up an indictment in Nye County, Nevada, my home. It further urged listeners to call me "on air" and ask if I had been indicted. Of course, these accusations were entirely false. But, never the less the calls poured into my open line unscreened program, asking if this was true. I had no choice but to block out all these calls and keep my silence for fear of my son's situation becoming public. This broadcast was made on WWCR, world wide short-wave radio, in Nashville, Tennessee. This station has been described by newspapers and civic minded organizations as one of the country's leading broadcasters of hate radio. The individuals, WWCR and its sister-station WNQM, In addition to broadcasting these proponents of hate and violence, this radio station has consciously decided not to spend money on a delay switch, not to conduct a careful background check of the people it places on the air and to allow individuals to say almost anything they want in foreign languages without having staff on duty who can even understand what they are saying. In my opinion, WWCR is one of the most irresponsible stations permitted to broadcast over the airwaves of this country. Now the fallout from that broadcast has been unbelievable. Besides the unrelenting accusatory calls, others repeated this false rumor as though it was fact, resulting in several related lawsuits. Many of you may have heard my defense played out on the airwaves and the Internet. No matter how hard I have tried to set the record straight, my torment and that of my family continues. Recently, a radio host in Toronto, Canada opened his morning show with the words "I am Art Bell and I molest little children". All of this sent me into a psychological tailspin. I felt I had been dealt a blow I might not recover from. Still I continued my nightly broadcasts as best I could. In October of 1998, my son came to a crisis point, a situation so critical that nothing but my full-time attention would help. So, on that fateful day, October 13th of 1998, I resigned on air with no intention of returning. But thanks to the efforts of my network, my best friend Alan Corbeth, Kraig Kitchin (CEO of Premiere Networks) and Randy Micheals [CEO of Clear Channel], I was able to return, but the pressure of having to defend myself against baseless, vile claims that I was a child molester eventually forced me to reduce my on air hours. Why the individuals behind the December 9, 1997 broadcast by WWCR decided to make such a patently false and harmful broadcast remains for the courts to decide. A major moment in this litigation is going to occur April 28th in Nashville, Tennessee. If justice prevails, a trial, perhaps a protracted one, may follow. It would be untrue for me to say this has not affected my air work, it has. It would be unfair to all of you, not to give you my full-time best. I can no longer do that. The reality that after suffering the fate of my son's own molestation, I now stand destined to be tainted for life as a child molester, has proven simply too much to bear. God knows, I have tried. For my Son, I pray that somehow his wounds will heal, his mind's troubles fade into something of a normal life. For myself an ordeal looms ahead to clear my good name of accusations I committed a crime, committed against my own son. Nobody ever said life would be fair, only to be lived as the hand is dealt to you. For all the years of joy my work has provided, I want to thank all of you and whatever creative force allowed it. I have decided to retire from the broadcast business at the end of this month, my last show to be April 26, 2000. I will not do any media interviews on this subject. I have already said more than any private person would have said, a private world I now look forward to returning to. Any further questions should be addressed to my attorney Gerard Fox at the law firm of Fox, Siegler & Spillane in Los Angeles at (310) 229-9300." -- Art Bell TED L. GUNDERSON'S DOG TAGS Ted L. Gunderson P.O. Box 18000-259 Las Vegas, NV 89114 Fax : 702-650-5674 Voice: 702-650-5676 GUNDERSON'S SPOOK TIMELINE: [Key time-line dates from Ted Gunderson's resume] 1951-60 Special Agent FBI 1960-65 Special Agent Supervisor, FBI Headquarters, Washington, D.C. 1965-73 Assistant Special Agent-in-Charge, New Haven, Connecticut and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1973 Chief Inspector 1973-77 Special Agent-in-Charge, New Haven, Connecticut and Philadelphia. 1977-79 Senior Special Agent-in-Charge, Los Angeles, California. WAS (IS) GUNDERSON COINTELPRO? Was Gunderson was one of the top FBI COINTELPRO supervisors during the wipe out so-called dissidents in the 60's and 70's? From Gunderson's position in New Haven, Philadelphia and Los Angeles, he had means, motive and opportunity to participate in COINTELPRO. Mr. Gunderson, what were you doing for J. Edgar Hoover in the 60's and 70's? NewsMakingNews would like to really understand you. 1979 - GUNDERSON RETIRED FROM THE FBI OR DID HE REALLY? At the time of his retirement, Ted L. Gunderson stated [resume] he had over 700 persons under his command and operated a $22 Million budget. "At the time of my retirement, I was one of the top executives, specifically the Senior Special Agent in Charge of the Los Angeles Division. I had three Special Agents in Charge as well as more than 700 personnel under my command. As the Senior Special Agent in Charge it was my responsibility to oversee all phases of the FBI's investigative jurisdiction throughout most of Southern California which encompassed a population of more than 14 million people. I was also responsible for the handling of all administrative manners as well as liaison with other government agencies and the media." [Affidavit Gunderson, Linda Wiegand matter 10/29/97.] 4/79-8/79 - GUNDERSON WAS THE SECURITY COORDINATOR FOR THE PAN AMERICAN GAMES IN SAN JUAN, PUERTO RICO. Gunderson was a Special Appointee of United States Attorney General Griffin B. Bell. "4. After retiring I was asked by US Attorney General Griffin Bell to coordinate security for the Pan American games, San Juan, Puerto Rico (Summer, 1979) There were six anti-American terrorist groups active on the island, yet no terrorist acts were committed during the games. In 1981-1982, I served on the California Narcotic Authority as a consultant for Governor Jerry Brown. I served as a consultant in 1984 to the Los Angeles Olympic Committee." [Affidavit Gunderson ] 1981-1982 - GUNDERSON SERVED AS A CONSULTANT FOR THE CALIFORNIA NARCOTICS AUTHORITY. Governor Jerry Brown appointed Gunderson. 1984 - LOS ANGELES OLYMPIC COMMITTEE - Anti Terrorism Consultant. Gunderson is reported to have engaged in this consultation job with the assistance of Michael James Riconosciuto. 1979 - Present - TED L. GUNDERSON & ASSOCIATES. Located in Santa Monica, California, Gunderson is the founder, owner and operator of an international security consulting and investigation firm. Gunderson was an investigator for F. Lee Bailey, Esq. who described Ted Gunderson as "a person with investigative skills that are unsurpassed by anyone I know or have known." [F. Lee Bailey is a switchboard of CIA connections.] "5. After retirement, I established Ted L. Gunderson and Associates, Santa Monica, California, an international security consulting and investigation firm. Since 1979, I have worked with many of America's most prominent attorneys and I have been involved as an investigator in numerous high profile cases, including the Doctor Jeffrey R. MacDonald, triple murder case, Fort Bragg, North Carolina, February 17, 1970 and the McMartin pre-school alleged sexual molestation case, Manhattan Beach, CA. My resume is attached.[Affidavit Gunderson ] 1980's? to the Present? - GUNDERSON AND MICHAEL RICONOSCITUO AND A MILIEU OF SPOOKS AND BLACK OPERATIONS. GUNDERSON, THE DRUG RING INVESTIGATOR AND HIS INVOLVEMENT IN DANNY CASOLARO'S INVESTIGATION OF THE OCTOPUS. GUNDERSON, THE DRUG RING INVESTIGATOR AND HIS INVOLVEMENT IN DANNY CASOLARO'S INVESTIGATION OF THE OCTOPUS. CLICK TO READ EXCERPT OF CHAPTER 3, THE LAST CIRCLE BY CHERIE SEYMOUR © 1997. TED GUNDERSON'S LONG-TIME RELATIONSHIP WITH MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO. CLICK TO READY EXCERPT OF CHAPTER 9, THE LAST CIRCLE BY CHERIE SEYMOUR © 1997. TED GUNDERSON'S BACKGROUND CHECKS ON ROBERT BOOTH NICHOLS AND HIS RELATIONSHIP TO ATTORNEY ALLAN BOYAK. CLICK TO READ EXCERPT OF CHAPTER 7, THE LAST CIRCLE BY CHERIE SEYMOUR © 1997. GUNDERSON DEFENDED RICONOSCIUTO WHEN HE WAS ARRESTED AND INDICATED HE AND RICONOSCIUTO HAD WORKED TO PREVENT TERRORISM AT THE LA OLYMPICS. SOURCE: 7/26/98 <a href="http://www.esotericworldnews.com/octopus.htm">www.esotericworldnews.com/octopus.htm</a> "....Former FBI. Special Agent, Ted Gunderson, speaks for Riconosciuto's credibility. Gunderson, who lives in Manhattan Beach, has worked with Riconosciuto for many years in his capacity as private investigator. "Together, according to Gunderson, they were responsible for thwarting a terrorist operation during the Los Angeles Olympics. According to Gunderson, Riconosciuto was well known in certain circles as a genius in almost all sciences. "The so-called drug operation broken up in Washington State was an electro hydrodynamic mining operation claimed Gunderson, using Townsend Brown technology. A videotape viewed by this journalist revealed metallic powders and apparent processes unrelated to drug manufacture. Indeed, a government analysis of soil samples revealed the absence of drug contamination, but a high concentration of barium. Barium is often found in high voltage related work..."" 1997 - GUNDERSON AND THE WEIGAND CASE. Gunderson investigated and presented an affidavit in the Linda Weigand case of Vermont and Connecticut. Weigand alleged her husband molested her two children and covered it up. [Affidavit Gunderson ] Eventually, Bo Gritz became involved in the Weigand case, and some people reported that Weigand's case was a hoax. Click this site: <a href="http://www.sightings.com/ufo/lindahoax.htm">www.sightings.com/ufo/lindahoax.htm</a> 1970's to the Present - GUNDERSON BECOMES A EXPERT IN SATANISM AND MIND CONTROL! Late 1970's. THE JEFFREY MacDONALD CASE. Ted Gunderson commenced his career as a Satanism expert in the Jeffrey MacDonald case, when he discovered that the "lady with the floppy hat" allegedly was present during the murder of MacDonald's wife and two children, and was joined by a group of other Satanists who committed the murders of MacDonald's wife and two children. This Satanism theory did not result in a new trial for Mr. MacDonald. THE MacDONALD CASE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST CASES WHEREIN AN OFFICIAL INVESTIGATOR INTRODUCED "SATANISM" AS THE MILIEU OF A CRIME. Another example of this type of case was the Charlie Manson murders. THE SON OF SAM AND THE PROCESS INVESTIGATION -- THE ULTIMATE EVIL. In his book, The Ultimate Evil, when author Maury Terry reaches the end of his brilliant investigation of the Son of Sam murders and "The Process," he suddenly discovers Ted Gunderson in Southern California out on the desert. Ted Gunderson immediately investigates and boldly leads Mr. Terry to a revelation about the depth and breadth of Satanism in America. GUNDERSON'S VIEW OF SATANIC RITUAL ABUSE. In his book, The Franklin Cover-up: Child Abuse, Satanism and Murder in Nebraska, author and former Nebraska State Senator John DeCamp interviewed 28 year veteran FBI agent Ted Gunderson. Since his retirement from the FBI, Gunderson has been actively investigating reports of Satanic ritual abuse. SOURCE: Daniel Ryder <a href="http://www.du.edu/~craschke/text2.html">www.du.edu/~craschke/text2.html</a> DeCamp writes: "Evidence from Gunderson’s investigations has convinced him tens of thousands of children or young people disappear from their homes each year, and that many of them are ritualistically sacrificed...nobody knows the true figure because the FBI doesn’t keep count. Gunderson observes, ‘The FBI has an accurate count on the number of automobiles stolen every year. It knows the number of homicides, rapes, and robberies, but the FBI has no idea of the number of children who disappear every year. They simply do not ask for the statistics.’ Gunderson goes onto say he believes they don’t ask for the statistics, simply, because they don’t want to see them. "They would be confronted with an instant public outcry for action, because the figures would show a major social problem that would demand action.’" [Note Daniel Ryder wrote the book, "12 Steps to Recovery from Satanic Ritual Abuse." It is now almost impossible to obtain a copy of that book. Joe Klaas, famous in the 12 step movement, wrote the introduction to that book, and initially blamed the kidnap of Polly on retaliation against him for having written that introduction. Source: San Francisco Chronicle November 1993.] 1990 - GUNDERSON WAS AN ACTIVIST IN THE McMARTIN PRESCHOOL CASE IN LOS ANGELES. Following is an excerpt of an article by Debbie Nathan who is well known to believe in false memory syndrome and to debunk as incredible, claims by children that they are abused. (See critique of Nathan by Alex Constantine.) Nathan's article does, however, outline the activities of Gunderson in the McMartin case: Source: <a href="http://users.cybercity.dk/~bkb1827/McMartin4.htm">users.cybercity.dk/~bkb18...artin4.htm</a> "Evidence of a Hoax - McMartin Preschool Tunnel Claims by Debbie Nathan © 1990: "In 1990, Jackie McCauley was living with Ted Gunderson. He is former head of the Los Angeles FBI office. After taking an early retirement in the late 1970s, Gunderson was hired by friends of Jeffrey MacDonald, the Green Beret convicted of brutally murdering his wife and small children. MacDonald's case is detailed in Joe McGiniss' book FATAL VISION. MacDonald always claimed that his family was murdered by a Charles Manson-like cult, and Gunderson located a female street person with a history of severe drug abuse who claimed she had been in the house with the cult when the family was murdered. From this work, Gunderson apparently adopted the idea that the country was overrun with murderous Satanic cults. He elaborated this idea when he was associated with Jackie McCauley and the rest of the McMartin parents. In the early 1980s, as Gunderson publicized his theories about Satanic cults, he began making bizarre claims to the media. One was that Satanists and the FBI were out to harm him. He once told the LA Times that someone had thrown a crowbar at him as he drove on the freeway. Another time, he said, he was sunbathing in his yard and awoke to find a satanic poem left at his side. In the late 1980s Gunderson became something of a regular on shows such as Geraldo. In May, 1989, after the Matamoros drug-cult killings, he appeared on Geraldo and claimed that Mason County, Washington was filled with satanist "killing fields" stocked with hundreds of dead bodies. The county went into a panic and parents took their children from school. Extensive investigation revealed no such fields. McCauley and Gunderson organized the 1990 McMartin dig and hired LA archaeologist Gary Sickel...." 1993 - WAS GUNDERSON ACTIVE IN SATANISM INVESTIGATIONS IN SONOMA COUNTY, CALIFORNIA? Was Mr. Gunderson the man who showed up at LINKS, an organization against "Satanism," and encouraged the investigation of Satanism in Santa Rosa. A leader of LINKS was Mr. Tchernoff who was seeking custody of his son because he alleged in son was in a care facility owned by Michael Aquino, an "out" Satanist and Army Counterintelligence officer. Aquino was "titled" out of the corps because of allegations of abuse at the Presidio child care center in the mid-80's. April 26, 1995 - GUNDERSON HAD A REVELATION ABOUT THE OKLAHOMA CITY MURRAH BUILDING BOMBING. On April 26,1995 Ted Gunderson wrote a letter "To Whom it may concern." Gunderson stated that Dr. Ken Louzza from the University of Oklahoma Geological dept. reviewed the University seismogram, during the time of the explosion. Dr. Louzza stated there were two surface waves, one at 9:02 and 13 seconds and the other at 9:02 and 23 seconds on April 19,1995. He stated this chart "indicates two detonations." 1998 - GUNDERSON JOINS FORCES WITH RICONOSCIUTO TO DEVELOP THE PINEAPPLE BOMB THEORY OF THE CAUSE OF THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING. [But don't laugh, the 1984 Beirut bomb was similar?] Gunderson and Michael Riconosciuto developed the "Pineapple Bomb" theory of how the Murrah building exploded in 1995. In an interview with Pat Shannon of Media Bypass, Riconosciuto elucidated: CLICK TO READ ALL. "...During our prison interview, I asked Michael Riconosciuto: Could there have been four of the super bombs placed at the strategic third-floor columns pointed out by General Partin? "No way!" Michael responded un-hesitatingly. "I was surprised there was so little damage as it was." His experience had taught him that a simultaneous detonation of four of the Barometric Bombs would have made downtown Oklahoma City look like a post-war Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He admitted on camera that the CIA had used one in Beirut in 1984." 1997-1999 - GUNDERSON DELVES EVEN MORE DEEPLY INTO MIND CONTROL. THE BARBARA HARTWELL CASE. Gunderson appeared to assist Barbara Hartwell by investigating and writing reports. Ms. Hartwell stated: I am a survivor of CIA MK ULTRA and PHOENIX Project, trained and utilized by CIA as a deep cover operative and professional CIA asset, under mind control programming, which the perpetrators of this mind control believed was "guaranteed under National Security". Any oaths of secrecy which I may have signed or "agreed" to were under coercion and/or mind control. Since 1996, I have gone public by exposing what I learned about these illegal covert operations through my own involvement and subsequent research, having been victimized and exploited by the U.S. government since childhood. I am a survivor of CIA MK ULTRA and PHOENIX Project, trained and utilized by CIA as a deep cover operative and professional CIA asset, under mind control programming, which the perpetrators of this mind control believed was "guaranteed under National Security". Any oaths of secrecy which I may have signed or "agreed" to were under coercion and/or mind control. Since 1996, I have gone public by exposing what I learned about these illegal covert operations through my own involvement and subsequent research, having been victimized and exploited by the U.S. government since childhood. ....I was advised to write these security letters by Ted Gunderson, retired FBI Senior Special-Agent-in-Charge and Bureau Chief. Mr. Gunderson has been a private investigator since his retirement from the FBI in 1979. He has been conducting an ongoing investigation of my case since 1997 and he has documented as much of my testimony as he was able to. Click for Barbara Hartwell links. June 6, 1999 - GUNDERSON GETS INTO ALIENS, THE LIZARD TYPES WHO EAT HUMAN DNA, AT AREA 51 AND CONNECTS IT TO SATAN! Gunderson speaks about aliens taking DNA from children at Area 51: Source: Click to read all: <a href="http://www.wiolawa.com/area51.htm">www.wiolawa.com/area51.htm</a> "...speakers who included Ted Gunderson.. who was speaking from his position of authority, having been an ex-FBI chief and retiring after 27 years of service.......they began by showing a small segment of a true film( from Thomas C. who gave his life for us to have the information ) on both the creatures that were being created at Area 51 from our human DNA... and the Sacrificial Rites called Satanism.... in which our fellow humans are slaughtered..." 1999-2000 - GUNDERSON PROMOTES HIS IDEAS THROUGH MEDIA APPEARANCES AND APPEARS WITH OTHER AUTHORS AND SPEAKERS. In the past two years, Gunderson has given public speeches at retreats regarding the CIA, Satanism and international trafficking in children, the New World Order and mind control. Gunderson has taken the stage with: Brice Taylor, Barbara Hartwell, Ted Gunderson, Chip Tatum, Cathy O’Brien, Mark Phillips, Walter Bowart, Chicago Health Television Host Ryan Elliott. Gunderson has interviewed Nancy Tatum, CIA wife, authoress joining Club Fed, and discussed the following topics: Operation Red Rock, Task Force 160, OSG2, Assassin, Pilot, Ollie North, Bush, Clinton Expose’ of Government Corruption and Impending New World Order from an insider. Click. Here is a description of a recent tape Gunderson is selling: [Source: <a href="http://www.weirdvideos.com/sam.html">www.weirdvideos.com/sam.html</a>] Ted Gunderson, retired FBI Director over Los Angeles, exposes the Illuminati takeover of our government and how these Satanists abduct children for satanic sacrifices and sex slavery. Evidence shows that the Illuminati raise stolen children for use as blackmail tools on government politicians and even Presidents! Get a President in bed with a kid, show it on hidden video and you have control of the US Government! Also discussed is the world wide secret pedophile rings run by the CIA and National Security Agency, the Social Services and Childcare organizations and other International kidnapping rings. International Illuminati Organizations, blackmail their way to the New World Order! (Original Title: "Satanism, Child Abduction and the New World Order") For more: www.bogritz.com YEAR 2000 - GUNDERSON INVESTIGATES A GENETIC SYNDROME WHICH DECREASES BRAIN FUNCTION IN BABIES AND CHILDREN. Recently, Gunderson investigated the Mirenex, a drug alleged to treat or even curing Down's Syndrome, and Gunderson determined the drug works! Gunderson has no formal medical training. Gunderson's resume shows he has a Bachelor of Science Degree from University of Nebraska. Perhaps Gunderson developed this interest from contact with Hercules, FIDCO and Riconosciuto. Source: <a href="http://www.down-syndrome.com/reports.htm">www.down-syndrome.com/reports.htm</a> "... I have had a great deal of experience in dealing with con men and criminals. When Sierra Clinics asked me to do an independent investigation on their Mirenex therapy I agreed to do so only if they would agree to furnish my results to the public whether it be good, bad or indifferent; they agreed to do so which is the reason for this report. ....After carefully investigating the clinic and many of the children treated, I can unequivocally state that the Mirenex therapy is everything that is claimed for it. Children definitely start improving rapidly as soon as in two weeks after starting treatment and their physical and facial features really do start to normalize rapidly ( in up to age 8 children ). ....If you have a child with Down Syndrome at home, I urge you to enroll in the Mirenex program as soon as possible or that you duplicate my investigation for yourself." TED L. GUNDERSON'S AWARDS: Distinguished Alumnus Award from the Californians for Nebraska Chapter of the University of Nebraska in Recognition of Distinguished and Devoted Service to His Country, 1979 Alumni Highest Effort Award in the Field of Law Enforcement from the Sigma Alpha Epsilon Social Fraternity, 1977 Law Enforcement Officer of the Year Award from the AFL-CIO Metal Trades Council Los Angeles, California, 1977. ITS ONLY $12.95! TED L. GUNDERSON'S BOOK! HOW TO LOCATE ANYONE ANYWHERE WITHOUT LEAVING HOME - Penguin, 1989. TO CONDUCT FURTHER RESEARCH, SEE THE PIR.ORG NAMEBASE PROXIMITY CHART. CLICK. REPORT FROM THE ART BELL TRIAL. 4/28/00 EYEWITNESS REPORT - THE ART BELL CASE AGAINST TED GUNDERSON, et al. by Katherine Sullivan © 2000 The following is an eyewitness report of the Summary Judgment hearing held today (4/28/00) in Nashville, TN concerning Art Bell Sr.'s lawsuit against four defendants: two radio stations, Ted Gunderson, and a Mr. Hickson. You have my permission to pass this on to whomever. Another person present in the courtroom also took many notes; I hope she will also share them, and her opinions, with you. I need to clarify that I went to the hearing with an open mind. I have never listened to an Art Bell show, nor have I ever talked with or corresponded with the man. For all I knew, Gunderson's allegations could be based in fact. Keeping this mentality helped me to stay objective during the hearing. *************** Today is April 28th, 2000. The hearing began shortly after 9 AM and finished around 11 in Judge Shipley's courtroom. The judge was rather petite with straight, short gray hair. She seemed intelligent and seasoned but admitted that this kind of case was unique in her courtroom ... she usually handles cases ranging from child abuse to car accidents. She announced that several news stations had asked permission to bring their cameras into the courtroom. She would not allow this; since the courtroom already had stationary cameras, she said the proceedings would be videotaped. Tapes of the hearing are available from the court clerk office for $15 plus approx. $4 S&H and will be available in several weeks. The following information comes from my handwritten notes. So much information was presented so quickly, there is no way I could write down everything that was said. I may have made a mistake or two in interpretation, although if I wasn't sure about something that was said, I noted it. I wasn't able to obtain the correct spelling of names of the attorneys, nor of the potential witnesses they quoted. I also was not able to obtain the name of the bulky, gray-bearded, balding man identified to me as Ted Gunderson's attorney. Mr. Fox from Los Angeles verbally represented Art Bell. Another attorney flanked Bell on his other side and participated in a quieter manner. Rick Hollow (sp) represented WWCR, which was one of two radio stations named by Art Bell in his lawsuit. I believe this is the Nashville station that aired Gunderson's program. Gunderson's attorney sat next to Hollow. Rick Hollow began. His first obvious intent was to convince the judge that Art Bell is a public figure. Hollow said that his legal group asked Bell to tell them every time he had been on radio, TV, in newspapers, etc. for the last ten years. He said Bell balked at this request and stated he couldn't be expected to remember all that. Hollow said that Bell claimed he was syndicated on 480 radio stations with 9 million listeners. Hollow said that Bell's attorney (Fox? not sure) recently appeared on Good Morning America and on the Art Bell show, speaking about the recent legal activities. Hollow said that when a person is a public figure, this "leads to scrutiny of character" on a greater scale than if the person was not a public figure. He gave excerpts from Bell's website, especially articles that mention issues Bell has addressed on his program, showing that he focused on more than just the nighttime "insomniac niche" who enjoy hearing about "UFO's, ghosts, vampire monkeys" etc. He said that Art Bell is ranked fourth after Dr. Laura, Howard Stern, and Rush Limbaugh. He attacked Bell's claim that after 12/97 (when Gunderson's show aired with allegations against Bell), his audience "shrunk." Fox said that Bell is a "person of notoriety". He tried to explain the legal difference between a "general, all-purpose public figure" versus a "limited purpose public figure." He said that the "general, all -purpose" terminology is reserved for presidents, senators, and the like, who address many issues of public concern. He said that "limited public figure" applies to rock stars, athletes and the like, who have status in the public eye basically because of one issue or talent. Fox said there is a "quantum leap" between Dr. Laura, Howard Stern, Rush Limbaugh and Art Bell. The judge mentioned that there is no need for a person to be known nationwide to be a public figure. She asked how the program was set up and where it was aired. One of the attorneys said that Hickson (sp), who made the allegations against Bell on the Gunderson Intelligence Report radio show on 12/9/97, was speaking by phone in Idaho. Gunderson was physically located "in the desert" near Las Vegas, and the program aired in Nashville. The judge asked how many people in the Nashville area know Art Bell as a person, not as a personality? There was discussion on this. Fox told the judge that unlike Dr. Laura, Art Bell doesn't talk about his family, and until recently, chose not to talk about it. The judge asked Hollow's opinion concerning "limited purpose public figure" status possibly applying to Bell. Hollow quoted more figures showing Bell's popularity, number of listeners, etc. He mentioned that Bell's website showed over 58 million hits. Hollow stated that allegations "go to the core of a person's character" if true, and therefore are important. The judge stated that Bell is, for all purposes, a public figure. Fox changed the subject and mentioned a dated Tennessee statute that said when a broadcast is liable for defamatory statements as a "lack of due care", when alleged by the plaintiff in a lawsuit, the burden of proof is on the defendant. Hollow quoted from a later case, mentioning that it had changed the previous ruling somewhat. He then stated that "constitutional malice" is when an allegation is "known to be false" or is made "in reckless regard." He talked about "subjective awareness of probable falsehood." One of the attorneys said that Gunderson claimed that Hixson, who made the allegations, was a "reliable and trustworthy informer." Hollow said that David Hickson had developed a product called "Water Oz (sp)." Hollow speculated about why allegations were made by a former female business partner who later claimed that Hickson bragged about how he was going to ruin Bell. Hickson allegedly said this during the time he made the public allegations against Bell. Hollow tried to convince the judge that the female partner may not have been trustworthy in her claims because she was upset with Hickson about his not giving her money and services he had promised her as part of their business arrangement. Hollow said that during the aired allegation, Hickson named an "Art Bell" without clarifying whether he was Jr. or Sr. He eventually explained that it was all a basic mix-up, that the child molestation report was of younger Bell being a victim, instead of senior Bell being a perp. There was also confusion about why the records weren't made public; this is possibly because the young Bell was a minor and therefore, the records of his kidnapping and assault were sealed. Hollow said that Mr. McClintock (sp), who I believe owned or was general manager of the Nashville station, stated that he'd heard "rumors" about Art Bell. Hollow said that Hickson had been on the air before as McClintock's guest. Hollow said that Hickson had had a previous "relationship" with the station from June 1995 through September 1995, during which time he'd made "statements critical of Bell." He denied that there was a conspiracy linking Hickson, Gunderson and McClintock against Art Bell. He said that Gunderson's show had been a "remotely broadcast program." He said there was an uplink via satellite. He said there is no liability to the distributor, unless the distributor KNEW statements were defamatory. He said, paraphrased, that the station's stance was that the incidence had consisted of "120 seconds of exchange in live broadcast, no script, extemporaneous, the claims were not made by an employee, nor a guest." He complained that the personnel at the radio station shouldn't have to act as "gatekeeper" or "censor." The judge reminded Hollow that "McClintock had the ability to cut it off." Hollow admitted that such a physical switch did exist. He again insisted that the action was "not defamatory." He said this is a matter of "constitutional law." He said "an investigation was carried out, and it was determined [the allegations] were untrue." He said the investigation was done after Art Bell's attorney contacted the station. Hollow claimed that Gunderson had been in control entirely, during that program. Gunderson's attorney spoke next. He said that there was one thing that nobody in the courtroom seemed to be willing to say, so he would: there is "no proof that Art Bell isn't a child molester." Gunderson's attorney said that people like Bell shouldn't be accused of things on the air due to their being so well-known. He said, "As soon as [Bell's] name was mentioned [on air], we should have done something." He submitted a "letter," unread, from Sue Ford (aka Brice Taylor) to the judge. He showed Judge Shipley a printout of the Internet website "data dump" on Gunderson, about his allegations, Bell's lawsuit, etc. He mentioned a claim being made on the Internet by someone I believe he called "Graywolf", saying that Gunderson is a pedophile. He didn't clarify why he said and showed these articles to the judge. Fox spoke again. He emphasized that Bell wants a jury trial. He said that Hickson had a show of his own on the radio station. He said that Gunderson had been a guest on Hickson's show three times, and that Hickson had been a guest on Gunderson's show. (Hollow had previously tried to convince the judge that Gunderson and Hickson hadn't known each other well enough to conspire against Bell.) Fox said that David Hickson had sent his water product to Art Bell for potential endorsement. That didn't develop. He said that Gunderson had claimed -- I believe on air the night of Hickson's allegations -- that Gunderson had tried to contact Art Bell to be on his show, but said that Art Bell had turned him down. Fox said that Art had not been contacted by Gunderson by phone as he had claimed. Fox read from what seemed to be a transcript of the show, that indicated that Gunderson seemed to be encouraging Hickson to defame Bell. One of the attorneys quoted Gunderson as saying, "I don't say anything on air unless it's proven fact." Fox said that the program director and general manager work at the station full time. He said McClintock was present when the broadcast was aired, and a board operator was also there. And yet no one flipped the switch to interrupt the airing of Hickson's allegations. He mentioned that Gunderson, a former FBI agent and investigator, was well trained in being careful about what to say and when. Fox said that the station is saying, "You can get so reckless that you're exempt from being reckless." Hollow said that Fox was asking the station to "apply negligence standard to an actual malice case." After a short recess, the judge reentered the courtroom and voiced her decisions. 1) Her first decision was about whether or not Art Bell is a public figure. She said he is, "for all purposes." She said her decision is a matter of law, not just for the summary judgment level. She said that this decision "raises the bar that [Bell] must show the defamation was false." 2) Her second decision is that malice existed. She said that this is only "for the summary judgment level." 3) She addressed the question of whether McClintock was knowledgeable of the information alleged by Hickson and whether management showed reckless disregard. She said she would not make any finding on this at this time. Too much yet to be argued, proven, etc. for this hearing. She and the attorneys agreed to have a telephone conference on May 25th in the morning. Hollow volunteered to initiate the conference. At that time they will set a trial date to "control the amount of discovery that needs to be done." Outside the courtroom, several people told me that the trial would be held in California. ---------------- The most personally shocking statement made during the hearing was from Gunderson's attorney. As previously reported, he stated that -- even though Hollow had already admitted that his legal team had investigated and found Hickson's allegations about Bell to be false -- "There's no proof that Art Bell isn't a child molester." What I got from his words is this: "As a citizen, I don't have to give any evidence that any person is a pedophile, to suggest that he/she is. I can slander him or her as long as I want, wherever I want, as often as I want. After all, I'm covered: the remotest chance that I could be guessing correctly is proof enough." I'm glad most people aren't like that man. report by Katherine Sullivan © 2000 THE BAYCITIES OBSERVER Virginia McCullough "Have I missed the mark, or, like a true archer, do I strike my mark? Or am I a prophet of lies, a babbler from door to door?" Cassandra, as reported by Agamemnon. © 2000 Virginia McCullough. All Rights Reserved. Use only with written permission. WHO IS TED L. GUNDERSON? IS HE AN INFORMANT OR A U.S. INTELLIGENCE OPERATIVE? When NewsMakingNews posted the Ted L. Gunderson "Data Dump" people from around the world sent me emails asking, "Who is Ted Gunderson?" It was apparent from the respondents that Gunderson has infiltrated researchers and victims involved in everything from the Oklahoma City bombing to mind control and all of the subjects in between. Many of the correspondents recited their experiences with Gunderson and his most recent satellite, Sue Ford. All those who wrote were shocked about the material that NewsMakingNews had posted. Without exception, they all wanted to learn more about this man who had allegedly slandered popular radio talk show host Art Bell. The Gunderson "Data Dump" was recently introduced in the ongoing trial where Art Bell has accused Ted Gunderson of libel and slander. Because of this trial, it is important to post as much material about Ted Gunderson as possible. Gunderson is 72 years old; he was born in Colorado Springs, Colorado on November 7, 1928. His own resume states that he is unmarried and has four children. He has an extensive background in law enforcement and attended the FBI Training School from December 10, 1951 to March 2, 1952. He served in the FBI in various positions until his retirement on March 30, 1979. At the time of his retirement he was Senior Special Agent in Charge of the Los Angeles, California Field Division. During his tenure with the FBI he often worked directly with the White House Special Inquiries Section dealing with sensitive requests between the FBI and the White House. He held positions in New Haven, Connecticut, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Memphis, Tennessee, Dallas Texas and Los Angeles, California. During his extensive career, Gunderson formed close alliances with law enforcement in each of these locations. He also formed close alliances with FBI informants and double agents operating at the street level. After his retirement he used these coalitions to form Ted L. Gunderson's International Investigators and Security Consultants. He advertises his services in far right magazines such as Media Bypass. In November of 1995, his ad appeared that stated, "We will train and inform you about mind control tactics and technology. We will show you how to shield from ELF and 'Electrostatic Sensory Manipulation'. We will test for brain implants, tracking chips, and resonant cavities. Our professional services are expensive (min. fee $3000.00 per week-end class). TO READ THE MEDIA BYPASS AD (11/95): Click letter size. Click expanded size. Gunderson aligns himself with the militia movement. However, in the fall of 1996 he ran for the United States Congress in District 1, Las Vegas, Nevada as an Independent American Party candidate. His four page flyer states his beliefs and his allegations. He highlights nine subject matters that appeal to "conspiracy buffs" and names eleven specific issues that he would address if elected. TO READ GUNDERSON'S CAMPAIGN LITERATURE: Click Page 1. Click Page 2. Click Page 3. Click Page 4. Who is this man who would be a United States Congressman? A two page letter that Gunderson wrote on July 27, 1987 to Senator John McCain reveals Gunderson's desire to convince the federal government that "the Satanic Cult movement is involved in a national criminal conspiracy network". Gunderson states that he "recently flew to Washington, D.C. and met with congressional officials and furnished them with the enclosed material" [re Satanic Cults]. Then Gunderson switches gears and addresses the following concern: "I noticed the enclosed Philip Agee article while enroute from New York City to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on 7/2/87. I am sure that you are aware that Agee, a former CIA agent, published a book which identified CIA agents around the world; some of whom were subsequently murdered (probably as a result of this exposure). Agee is now lecturing throughout the country apparently without fear of prosecution. Under the circumstances, it is inconceivable that the CIA or Department of Justice would allow him to take advantage of the system he is trying to destroy, without challenging him. He is obviously a turncoat KGB agent who should be in prison." "On the other hand, I can document that the Department of Justice has done everything possible, including blackmail, to prosecute me (see enclosed documents). Since my retirement from the FBI, they have had at least four separate investigations of me. It makes me wonder if the long-standing goal of the Soviets to infiltrate our Government agencies has been accomplished, in regard to the Department of Justice." "As a former FBI agent, with more than 27 years of service, who at one time was involved in investigating the Communist Party, U.S.A., and counter-espionage in N.Y.C., I feel more than qualified to ask you to look into this matter". Gunderson concludes his letter with the following paragraph: "I also believe that there is a possibility the Soviets are involved to a degree in the Satanic Cult movement in this country." TO READ TED GUNDERSON'S LETTER TO SENATOR JOHN McCAIN (7/27/87): Click Page 1. Click Page 2. So is Gunderson just a good American performing his patriotic duty? What about the four Departments of Justice investigations of former FBI agent Ted L. Gunderson? What could have caused his former employer to become so interested in the activities of a man who insists that he is just a private investigator? A letter dated January 18, 1984 from the FBI's Special Agent in Charge Richard T. Bretzing to Ted Gunderson shows that Gunderson had used his connections with the FBI to urge an investigation into the Church of Scientology and the FBI had declined. TO READ THE FBI'S LETTER TO TED GUNDERSON (1/18/84): Click. Personal notes handwritten by Ted Gunderson of CIA to contract agent Michael Riconosciuto show Gunderson urging Riconosciuto to investigate CIA operations in Utah and Paige, Arizona that he alleges is storing children and using the kids to blackmail Senators, Congress, etc and filming the sexual abuse of children to compromise politicians. A second note supplies information about the Christic Institute and identifies an informer for the FBI. TO READ TED GUNDERSON'S NOTES TO MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO: Click Page 1. Click Page 2. So, is Ted Gunderson an intelligence operative, an informer, a drugs for arms adventurer or a sponge who gathers information by infiltrating various groups and then profits by selling that information to law enforcement? The jury is still out, but if anyone can supply more information and documentation about the mysterious Ted Gunderson, I will be happy to write another article. by Virginia McCullough © 2000

by **chiggerbit** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:56 pm

<a href="http://www.apfn.net/MESSAGEBOARD/6-25-03/discussion.cgi.69.html">www.apfn.net/MESSAGEBOARD...gi.69.html</a> Virginia Lee McCullough IN HONOR OF BRIAN DOWNING QUIG Mon Jun 23 20:38:23 2003 204.189.23.201 IN HONOR OF BRIAN DOWNING QUIG RUN DOWN IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA JUNE 16, 2003 By Virginia Lee McCullough <a href="http://www.newsmakingnews.com/vm,quig,6,23,03.htm#TITLE">www.newsmakingnews.com/vm....htm#TITLE</a> Here it is all over again. Another brilliant researcher and writer lost to the forces that only come out into the daylight from under their rocks to destroy the open sharing of information by destroying the man or woman sharing it. Although I had never met Brian Downing Quig, we communicated over the past years on a variety of subjects of mutual interest. I tried to think of a proper way to honor such a bright man. It occurred to me that this is the fifth journalist I have known that has been lost to the New World Order since 1991. These "accidents" do not occur in a vacuum; they are made to happen to silence the free speech in what used to be a free country. Little people with small minds are used by intelligence operatives to eliminate troublesome people who would speak the truth. These people infiltrate a journalist, work diligently to separate him from his normal support group and pursue them until he or she is destroyed. I am getting very tired of writing memorial pages to brilliant people eliminated by grunts paid for by black op operations. So in honor of Brian Downing Quig I am posting the scenario I experienced, that I backed away from. If Quig had recognized these small people have a large agenda, he might still be alive. A woman named Barbara Hartwell ( www.barbarahartwell.com ) was first introduced to me March 1, 2000 through an email from John Quinn who posted to the web, at that time, as NewsHawk Inc. (Click.) Quinn had been doing good work on the Columbine shootings and the crash of Air Alaska Flight 261. So it puzzled me as to why he would forward me, what in essence, was a diatribe against two men by someone I have never heard of named Barbara Hartwell. I thought that perhaps he knew I was an advocate of women and children. I sent her an a email complimenting her writing. That same day (3-19-00) she forwarded me "Barbara Hartwell's Security Letter" clearly aligning herself with former FBI agent Ted Gunderson and the notorious Chip Tatum. She stated that she is a survivor of CIA MKULTRA and the Phoenix Program and was in the process of writing a book to be entitled Hardwired, The True Story of a CIA Black Ops Survivor. She said she had documentation and eye witness testimony. And, of course, Ms. Hartwell was destitute and soliciting for contributions to her Legal Defense and Research Fund so that she could continue to try to expose the evil government operations which she had managed to survive because Ted Gunderson had rescued her just in the nick of time. Some of the donated funds were to be used to publish the Gunderson/Hartwell Intelligence Report and to produce a series of video tapes she would call The Hartwell Files. She staked her bona fides on Ted Gunderson "who for 27 years had an exemplary career with the FBI". She repeatedly cried poor mouth for not only herself but also for her animals. She said that every time she had almost finished her work that "spooks and goons" would hack into her computer and bring down her web site thereby destroying her files and making her start all over again. Finally her "survival letter" concluded with many patriotic quotes and a few religious quotes. And, of course, she ended with "God bless you and God bless America." March 19, 2000 also found her News Bulletin dated 1-24-00 in my in box and that revealed she had alliances with Kurt Billings ( www.psychops.com ), Mike Ruppert ( www.copvcia.com ) and the previously mentioned John Quinn. Hartwell and all three of her correspondents had experienced a hellish day as some evil high tech genius tried to take down their web sites implying that it was secretive insider information that was so valuable that the government had assigned half its employees to sabotage only their web sites. The third email was received 3-19-2000 but created 2-11-00 and Hartwell's wrath was directed at Walter Bowart ( freetht@azstarnet.com ) . She accused Bowart of defrauding Hartwell of $100.00 that she had sent him a year ago for membership in the Freedom of Thought Foundation and a copy of Operation Mind Control. Hartwell demanded her money back and threatened to file a lawsuit against Bowart and she urged others to join her in a class action suit. The amount and intensity of Hartwell's emails to this writer, left me uneasy. Usually when a source contacts a writer, they are interested in a specific subject matter and they will wait for a response before contacting the reporter again. I received a reasonable letter from Hartwell on 3-22-00 (Click.) and she expressed a desire to share her story with me and detailed a "major professional disagreement" she had in November 1999 with her former champion Ted Gunderson. She asks me if I know anything about him. I then called Hartwell and had a twisting conversation with her that rambled on and on without her giving me any facts to back up her allegations. The next day I emailed some fellow researchers asking if they knew anything about Barbara Hartwell. She emailed me a lengthy email (Click.) and forwarded me some of Kurt Billings' postings (Click. 5) and sent along a separate endorsement of Kurt Billings. By March 25, 2000 I had begun to receive feed back from fellow researchers. Some of their comments follow: The most disagreeable of the lot is Ted Gunderson. Gunderson is a scamster. Hell, I can recall the time he was referring to MKULTRA as "Mick-ultra". Now he pretends to be an expert on the stuff. None of these people have bothered to read the actual MKULTRA documentation--- which doesn't really back up their (Cathy) O'Brien-esque claims. Is he a "plant"? My own interactions are few and took place years ago but, they convinced me that he really IS a Maxwell Smart type. Jacque (McGauley) insists he is a not very bright con artist , easily conned himself, a not uncommon situation... who wants to live well without working. A woman in her circumstances can dodge HIT MEN? Huhh. They sure got to JFK! Well, I guess that Babs is just a lot more clever then John was... Virginia.... what can I say? Except: the letters that you have given me are evidence of a VERY depressing sub-culture destined to remain always to remain very sub indeed. I am cynical about all these claimants whether they agree with each other or argue amongst themselves. A pox on ALL their houses! At one time I really tried to convince myself that there was something to what they were saying, but there comes a time when you just have to wake up and smell the bull shit. The responses made perfect sense to this writer and I responded back the same day (Click. 6) stating that phone conversation would probably the last I had with Barbara Hartwell because it left me feeling uneasy and slightly depressed and led me places I really have no desire to go. I asked my friend if that made any sense. I continued saying that "basically all this reminded me of the time [a period of seven or eight months] when I was in touch with Gunderson and McGualey just after Danny (Casolaro) was killed. Jacque would give my phone number out to all kinds of weird females [like you say -- always the "victims"] who would call me at all hours of the day and night and just ramble. Usually the conversations concluded with a forlorn plea for funds. Nothing they allege could be documented and I felt like I was in quicksand. I felt like changing my phone number but did not, and the calls eventually ended. Maybe because I sent no funds? On the 28th of May, Hartwell was at it again. This time she sent out a spam email that caused me to receive some angry email back, many from people I did not know . Among them was one from her fellow victim of high tech attacks, Mike Ruppert. Ms. Hartwell continued to inundate me with emails about issues I had no interest in, usually diatribes stirring up the wars between the mind control groups who call themselves "survivors" as opposed to those who prefer to be known as mind control researchers. My frustration grew in direct proportion to the amount of garbage she sent and following my publisher Kate Dixon's posting of the now infamous Ted Gunderson Data Dump on www.newsmakingnews.com on April 4, 2002, I took out my frustration on Kate Dixon with the following letter: CLICK HERE FOR THE FULL STORY: <a href="http://www.newsmakingnews.com/vm,quig,6,23,03.htm#TITLE">www.newsmakingnews.com/vm....htm#TITLE</a> High Level Police cover-up on Quig Death!!! — colonel_blandish, Tue Jun 24 20:39 " Brian Downing Quig's Legacy" (John Galt) — John Galt, Tue Jun 24 20:21 invited you to join the Quigs_Fight group! — Dick Eastman, Tue Jun 24 01:07 Treason From Within

by **chiggerbit** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:00 pm

<a href="http://educate-yourself.org/lte/suspiciousofted12dec02.shtml">educate-yourself.org/lte/...ec02.shtml</a> Educate-Yourself The Freedom of Knowledge, The Power of Thought © -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current News | Introduction | Colloidal Silver | Chemtrails | Sylphs | Emerging Diseases | Forbidden Cures |Ozone | Immunity Boosting | Nutrition Mind-Body Connection | Ozone | Bioelectrification | Story on Drugs | Vaccine Dangers | Cancer | Newsletter | New World Order | NWO News Pam Schuffert | Phil Schneider | Al Bielek | Trevor James Constable | Mind Control | Brice Taylor | Ted Gunderson | Tim White | Free Energy Matthew Ward | Kanya Vashon McGhee | Montalk | Cell Towers | Ruth Drown | ZS Livingstone | Red Elk | Phil Ledoux | Don & Carol Croft BBB | The Draft | Gary Wade | Planet X, The Sequel | Tone Generator | Letters | Membership | Help | Discussion | Letters | Links | Dowsing Orgone Generators | The Succor Punch | Search | Home | Contact Us | Products | 'Peak Oil' | Police & Tasers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Letters to The Editor -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Suspicious of Ted Gunderson <a href="http://educate-yourself.org/lte/suspiciousofted12dec02.shtml">educate-yourself.org/lte/...ec02.shtml</a> Decembeer 12, 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: djsmith To: Editor@educate-yourself.org Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 5:13 PM Subject: Ted Gunderson Hello Ken, I like your web site but I've been reading conflicting information about Ted Gunderson. William cooper's web site says that he's really an Illuminati agent spreading disinformation. I have great respect for Mr. Cooper's work (and so did the government apparently), so I don't want to just ignore his claims. Have you uncovered any information that might cause Mr. Gunderson's motives to be suspect? Sincerely, Dave Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: Editor To: djsmith Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:31 AM Subject: Re: Ted Gunderson Hi Dave, Thanks for writing. I didn't know about any negative info about Ted at Bill's site. I would like to read it. Can you send me the url for the info you refer to? Ted has been the target of a protracted smear campaign for almost 3 years now. It started in early 2000 with the machinations of a web site called www.newsmakingnews.com. after Ted started co-lecturing with Brice Taylor in late Fall of 1999. About the same time that newsmakingnews started dumping on Ted, Art Bell launched into his wholly-fabricated tale about Ted calling him a 'child abuser' over the air, an utter falsehood (by the way, the coordinated timing with newsmakingnews.com and Art Bell's bellowing was a little too convenient for my "covert op" sensors). Of late, Stew Webb, a government sponsored informat/stooge if there ever was one, has been on the attack. Ted's credentials and background look too good. He held too high a position in the FBI to be dismissed as a kook. His research has been too deep, too voluminous, and too incisive to be ignored. He hits them hardest on satanic ritual abuse of children, CIA sponsored kidnapping/murder of children, and mind control. The three things they want desperately to keep from the American public. Ted's lectures hit too close to home and he never quits. He doesn't pull punches and they can't seem to kill him off, as it has been attempted six times to date. So they try to discredit him and smear his reputation. They use blowhards like Stew Webb to first ingratiate himself with Ted, live off his largess for a year, and who then turns around and betrays Ted, calling him a spook and govt. agent- when the reality is just the opposite. Same goes for a CIA mind controlled schrew named Barbara Hartwell. First she approaches Ted, pleads for his help and assistance. He helps her in numerous ways and about 8 months later, she's calling him a spook at the urging of an instigator (dare I say 'asset' ?) named Virginia McCullough of www.newsmakingnews.com I liked Bill Cooper too. I eulogized him when he died, but I saw his warts as well. He over-trusted some sources of info (John Lear is a good example) and suspected others without sufficient justification. He was usually on an emotional roller coaster, mostly due to his drinking I suppose. His judgements were often delivered from the hip, rather than from his head. Nonetheless, he done good while he had the chance to do it, but that's precisely what Ted Gunderson is attempting to do with the time he has remaining. Always remember to ask yourself when weighing info (and disinfo) about credible, high profile, former-governemnt employees and anti-NWO speakers like Ted Gunderson: who loses and who gains? The campaign to smear Ted is so transparent, you could rub it squeaky clean with Windex. If you closely examine the accusations against Ted made by his detractors, they amount to nothing more than hot air. I plan to expound on each and every one of Ted's critics in several articles to be posted at my web site. Stay tuned for 'the rest of the story'. Regards, Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: Editor To: djsmith Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:31 AM Subject: Re: Ted Gunderson Hi Dave, Thanks for writing. I didn't know about any negative info about Ted at Bill's site. I would like to read it. Can you send me the url for the info you refer to? sure. The exact quote is: "Those who are attracted to the Mysteries who are unable to grasp the esoteric meaning of their education often take the exoteric interpretation to be truth. They often turn to Satan or Lucifer (Light) as their object of worship never understanding the metaphor for a much deeper philosophy. These Satan worshipers are useful. They furnish a diversion and are often a source of large sums of money. The Brotherhood has seldom found itself lacking in fools or funds. Ex-FBI operative Ted Gunderson is the hegelian tool in this instance pointing you off after Satanists, a cull-d-sac where you will chase your own tail round, and round, and round. I do not believe that Ted knows that he is being used in this regard. I may be wrong." to be found at: <a href="http://www.williamcooper.com/majestyt.htm">www.williamcooper.com/majestyt.htm</a> Ted has been the target of a protracted smear campaign for almost 3 years now. It started in early 2000 with the machinations of a web site called newsmakingnews.com. after Ted started co-lecturing with Brice Taylor in late Fall of 1999. About the same time that newsmakingnews started dumping on Ted, Art Bell launched into his wholly-fabricated tale about Ted calling him a 'child abuser' over the air, an utter falsehood (by the way, the coordinated timing with newsmakingnews.com and Art Bell's bellowing was a little too convenient for my "covert op" sensors). Of late, Stew Webb, a government sponsored informat/stooge if there ever was one, has been on the attack. I read about this. In the same link above, Cooper has this to say about Art Bell: Art Bell is a Freemason. He is a member of the Illuminati. Art Bell's book The Quickening is one of the most blatant, in your face, pieces of new world order propaganda that I have ever seen. In it Art Bell, claiming to be a patriotic American, shamelessly advocates the formation of a world totalitarian socialist government. "Will there be a global government with a benevolent dictator, overseeing global law, global police and a global judiciary in an attempt to make the world cleaner, peaceful and prosperous? If that's what it takes to achieve these ends, so be it." -- from The Quickening by Art Bell, page 309 The Art Bell Overnight and Dreamland radio shows dish up nightly servings of ridiculous, outrageous, and fantastic conspiracy fantasies. Occasionally Bell stirs in legitimate, real and dangerous conspiracies. Although Art Bell pretends to be serious, the mix of incredulous fantasy with fact serves to debunk all conspiracies. Bell effectively implants the idea that anyone who believes in any conspiracy is a whacked out nutcase that should be locked up in a mental institution. He is a most effective change agent operating on behalf of our enemies. He goes into Bell's books and web site logo's as being steeped in Illuminati symbology. It appears to be very well researched. He also maintains the same stance regarding Richard Hoagland of www.enterprise.com. I read another news article that Hoagland was awarded a "Thousand Points of Light" (Illuminati terminolgy) recognition by Barbara Bush for his web site back in the early '90's. That would seem to be a ***big*** confirmation of Cooper's claim. Ted's credentials and background look too good. He held too high a position in the FBI to be dismissed as a kook. His research has been too deep, too voluminous, and too incisive to be ignored. He hits them hardest on satanic ritual abuse of children, CIA sponsored kidnapping/murder of children, and mind control. The three things they want desperately to keep from the American public. Which also makes him a likely candidate for double agent. The conspiracy accounts for all levels of understanding. "They" know that there will be those who are ever suspicious of everything so what better cover than to speak to us in "our" language? Whoever would have thought that the NAZI reich was infiltrated from top to bottom with British double agents? The Brits were being bombed daily by them.. but that is how the Brits stayed one step ahead of them.. that BS about cracking all their codes was a cover.. they had the codes handed to them by double agents. Re-read George Orwell's "1984".. that was the past he was referring to, not the future. WWII was perpetrated on the British people by the British government and aristocracy. Ted's lectures hit too close to home and he never quits. He doesn't pull punches and they can't seem to kill him off, as it has been attempted six times to date. So they try to discredit him and smear his reputation. They use blowhards like Stew Webb to first ingratiate himself with Ted, live off his largess for a year, and who then he turns around and betrays Ted, calling him a spook and govt. agent- when the reality is just the opposite. Same goes for a CIA mind controlled schrew named Barbara Hartwell. First she approaches Ted, pleads for his help and assistance. He gives it and 8 months later she's calling him a spook at the urging of an instigator (dare I say 'asset' ?) named Virginia McCullough of newsmakingnews.com I liked Bill Cooper too. I eulogized him when he died, but I saw his warts as well. He over-trusted some sources of info (John Lear is a good example) and suspected others without sufficient justification. He was usually on an emotional roller coaster, mostly due to his drinking I suppose. His judgements were often delivered from the hip, rather than from his head. Nonetheless, he done good while he had the chance to do it, but that's precisely what Ted Gunderson is attempting to do with the time he has remaining. Always remember to ask yourself when weighing info (and disinfo) about credible, high profile, former-governemnt employees and anti-NWO speakers like Ted Gunderson: who loses and who gains? The campaign to smear Ted is so transparent, you could rub it squeaky clean with Windex. If you closely examine the accusations against Ted made by his detractors, they amount to nothing more than hot air. I plan to expound on each and every one of Ted's critics in several articles to be posted at my web site. Stay tuned for 'the rest of the story'. Don't discount what Ted says, but do include that possibility that you *are* being led around by the nose and maybe off into an irrelevant direction as Cooper claims.. Cooper was assassinated after all, they clearly did not want people to hear what he had to say. Dave Smith

by **chiggerbit** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:02 pm

<a href="http://educate-yourself.org/tg/tgmcculloughdataintro2.shtml">educate-yourself.org/tg/t...tro2.shtml</a> Educate-Yourself The Freedom of Knowledge, The Power of Thought © -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current News | Introduction | Colloidal Silver | Chemtrails | Sylphs | Emerging Diseases | Forbidden Cures |Ozone | Immunity Boosting | Nutrition Mind-Body Connection | Ozone | Bioelectrification | Story on Drugs | Vaccine Dangers | Cancer | Newsletter | New World Order | NWO News Pam Schuffert | Phil Schneider | Al Bielek | Trevor James Constable | Mind Control | Brice Taylor | Ted Gunderson | Tim White | Free Energy Matthew Ward | Kanya Vashon McGhee | Montalk | Cell Towers | Ruth Drown | ZS Livingstone | Red Elk | Phil Ledoux | Don & Carol Croft BBB | The Draft | Gary Wade | Planet X, The Sequel | Tone Generator | Letters | Membership | Help | Discussion | Letters | Links | Dowsing Orgone Generators | The Succor Punch | Search | Home | Contact Us | Products | 'Peak Oil' | Police & Tasers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smearing Ted Gunderson, Part 2 Virginia McCullough By Ken Adachi <Editor@educate-yourself.org> <a href="http://educate-yourself.org/tg/tgmcculloughdataintro2.shtml">educate-yourself.org/tg/t...tro2.shtml</a> September 10, 2000 In my first article (<a href="http://educate-yourself.org/tg/nwogundersonsmear1may0.shtml)">educate-yourself.org/tg/n...ay0.shtml)</a> about the less-than-subtle covert campaign to publically discredit former FBI veteran, turned Secret Government muckraker, Ted Gunderson, I discussed the illogical and unconvincing conduct of Art Bell in quitting his popular late night radio talk show by blaming a 2 minute on-air radio exchange (in 1997) between Ted Gunderson and David Hinkson for "devastating" his life and the principle reason for his early retirement from radio. Coinciding with his departure from radio, Bell launched a highly publicized defamation lawsuit against Gunderson and Hinkson in Nashville, Tennessee. A preliminary hearing in that lawsuit took place in Nashville on April 28, 2000 and was the subject of an eyewitness report posted at Sightings.com (<a href="http://www.sightings.com/general/witness.htm)">www.sightings.com/general/witness.htm)</a> by Katherine Sullivan, a woman described in the article heading as a "courtroom witness". In the opening paragraph of her report, Sullivan informs the reader that " I need to clarify that I went to the hearing with an open mind. I have never listened to an Art Bell show, nor have I ever talked with or corresponded with the man. For all I knew, Gunderson's allegations could be based in fact. Keeping this mentality helped me to stay objective during the hearing." When I first read her article at Sightings.com, I simply presumed that Sullivan was a Nashville local who was curious about all the shouting and wanted to check out the courtroom scene herself. At the time, I might have considered it slightly odd that she would have any interest in the case since she said up front that she's never listened to Art Bell, but maybe, I figured, she just read one of Keith Rowlands' (Bell's web master/press agent) 'updates' posted on the net and became intrigued about the story. I was soon to learn, however, that Katherine Sullivan is anything but a casual 'courtroom witness' satisfying a curiosity about a case concerning a national radio celebrity. She is a woman with an extremely disturbing background which needs to be examined carefully in the context of this case. Sullivan's past history and possible motives for penning her witness 'report' will be discussed in a separate article in this series. Katherine's professed "mentality" to "stay objective" is about as far from the truth as you can possibly get. Gunderson's Accusers On April 1, 2000, during the course of his radio show, Art Bell announced his decision to leave radio. He said that Gunderson and Hinkson had publically accused him of child molestation, the very crime that Art's son was obstensibly victimized by. Art said he couldn't take it anymore and was going to vigorously pursue a defamation lawsuit againt Gunderson and Hinkson and planned to retire to private life. During the same month, April 2000, a series of E mails flew back and forth between four women: Virginia McCullough, Katherine Sullivan, Kathy Kasten, and Barbara Hartswell. The content of those E mails will be revealed in their entirety in another article in this series, but for now, let's examine the activity of Virginia McCullough and her web site, www.newsmakingnews.com . NewsMakingNews Sullivan's article originated from a web site called "<a href="http://newsmakingnews.com"">newsmakingnews.com"</a> and was circulated to several bulletin boards on the Internet. The editor of this web site is apparently Virginia McCullough (vmcullough@hotmail.com), although she doesn't tell you that on the home page. She heads her articles with the title of BayCities Observer, so I guess she lives in San Francisco. Another e mail address listed frequently at this site, but without a name attached, is "kate@thegrid.net". [Update 2001: After I posted Ted's Internet response to Barbara Hartwell's accusations against him in early 2001 (<a href="http://educate-yourself.org/tg/tgresponsetobarbarahartwell26mar01.shtml">educate-yourself.org/tg/t...ar01.shtml</a> ), I discovered from the vitriole hurled back at Ted (and me) by the Screaming Banshees at newsmakingnews.com, that Kate Dixon was the owner of www.newsmakingnews. Kate's name, however, was not on the masthead or anywhere else on their web site-at the time. I looked hard to find out who the owner was and the only name readily seen was Virginia McCullough, so I naturally assumed she ran the site.] At first reading, NewsMakingNews looks strong. You get the idea that Virginia's been doing hard- hitting investigative reporting for a long time and she has a lot of inside contacts and seemingly tons of incriminating documents about all sorts of nefarious government doings going back to the 80's. In her introduction to a number of different articles, Virginia often reminds the reader that she was a "friend and fellow investigative reporter" with Danny Casolaro, murdered reporter of Octopus fame (see the books of Jim Keith). I guess if you can call Danny Casolaro your "friend and fellow investigative reporter", you must be a regular junk yard bulldog when it comes to digging up the 'real' story with your-life-on-the-line sort of integrity and credibility, right? Or perhaps that's the subliminal conclusion that the reader is expected to arrive at. In any event, Virginia wants to be sure that the reader knows that her life has been in peril from time to time because of the dedication and rigor of her 'investigations'. The Ted Gunderson Data Dump (<a href="http://www.newsmakingnews.com/gunderson.htm)">www.newsmakingnews.com/gunderson.htm)</a> One of Virginia's investigative 'targets' has been Ted Gunderson. Virginia is anxious to rip the cover off of Ted's phony and duplicitous 'front' as helpful Semaritan and knight-in-shining-armor rescurer of victims of mind control and satanic ritual abuse in this country. To accomplish her goal, she has created a new section to her web site in late April [200<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"> called "The Ted Gunderson Data Dump". It's simply incredible how the debut of Virginia's 'Gunderson Data Dump' site just happened to coincide perfectly with Bell's sudden and dramatic departure from late night radio and the opening round of his defamation lawsuit on April 28 in Nashville. A truly amazing 'coincidence'. No orchestrated elements here I'm sure. McCullough practically trips over herself in her rush to expose Gunderson's 'double agent' status. She employs almost every dishonest yellow journalism tactic in existence in order to make Gunderson appear guilty without ever providing any real substantial or credible proof of her accusations. Her Cheapshot Arsenal includes: Inuendo McCullough initiates many paragraphs about Gunderson with leading rhetorical questions, followed by a question mark. Her accusations are conveniently (and safely) couched within the vehicle of a 'question'. A few examples starting with the top of her Gunderson Dump page : 1."WHO IS THIS TED GUNDERSON, WHO FRAMED, TRIED AND SENTENCED, ART BELL WITHOUT A TRIAL! ART BELL RETIRES! BUT BELL HAS SUED GUNDERSON?" [It looks like Virginia was a little confused here as to where to place the question mark and the exclamation point in the above example, but she's preoccupied with the perils of investigative reportage. I'm sure you understand. Continuing...] 2. "WAS (IS) GUNDERSON COINTELPRO?" 3. "1979 - GUNDERSON RETIRED FROM THE FBI OR DID HE REALLY?" 4. "1980's? to the Present? - GUNDERSON AND MICHAEL RICONOSCITUO AND A MILIEU OF SPOOKS AND BLACK OPERATIONS." 5."1993 - WAS GUNDERSON ACTIVE IN SATANISM INVESTIGATIONS IN SONOMA COUNTY, CALIFORNIA?" 6. "WHO IS TED L. GUNDERSON? IS HE AN INFORMANT OR A U.S. INTELLIGENCE OPERATIVE?" Guilt Association When not couching her allegations as rhetorical questions, Virgiania switches to the employment of descriptive adjectives or nouns associated with guilt to title her paragraphs: 1. " GUNDERSON'S SPOOK TIMELINE: " [Not wishing to burden the reader with supportive facts, Virginia breezily establishes that Ted is henceforth to be considered a 'spook'.] 2. " TED L. GUNDERSON'S DOG TAGS " [Ah yes..., the military connection and of course, the derogatory implication of the word "dog".] 3. " GUNDERSON AND MICHAEL RICONOSCITUO AND A MILIEU OF SPOOKS AND BLACK OPERATIONS. " 4. "TED GUNDERSON'S LONG-TIME RELATIONSHIP WITH MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO. CLICK TO READY EXCERPT OF CHAPTER 9, THE LAST CIRCLE BY CHERIE SEYMOUR © 1997. " 5. "GUNDERSON DEFENDED RICONOSCIUTO WHEN HE WAS ARRESTED AND INDICATED HE AND RICONOSCIUTO HAD WORKED TO PREVENT TERRORISM AT THE LA OLYMPICS. " 6. " 1998 - GUNDERSON JOINS FORCES WITH RICONOSCIUTO TO DEVELOP THE PINEAPPLE BOMB THEORY OF THE CAUSE OF THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING. [But don't laugh, the 1984 Beirut bomb was similar?] " [Again, some confusion in the above parentheses in deciding the appropriate usage of a question mark or an exclamation point, but hey..., fearless reporters are under a lot of stress.] The Gunderson/Riconosciuto Guilt Association McCullough devotes a lot of space at her web site trying to link the double-agent associative guilt of both Gunderson and Michael Riconosciuto as somehow being partners in crime. Read her headlines above and tell me she doesn't have an axe to grind. Again and again, she sets up the implied conclusion that both Gunderson and Riconosciuto are in collusion with each other. She leads the reader to the assumption that they are both guilty as hell-of something, and neither of them can be trusted. But guilty of what? She, like every other member of the Gunderson Character Assisination Team, can't supply any verifiable, credible evidence against Ted of any sort of wrongdoing. What they supply, however, and provide in great abundance, are distortions, lies, miss characterizations, and deceptive HOT AIR. In Mike Riconosciuto's case, he's serving a 40 year term in Federal prison for supposedly running a methamphetamine lab. According to Virginia's innuendo, since he's been convicted and is serving time, he must be guilty, right? He's serving time in Federal prison! The government doesn't frame up people they want to take out of circulation and railroad them into prison. They wouldn't do something like that, would they? I mean the government would never stoop so low as to arrange for a man, who was about to be the star witness against the U.S. Department of Justice in a civil case involving the theft (and profiteering by officials of the Justice Department) in the Promis software case, also known as the Inslaw Affair, to be falsely accused and eliminated as a witness against them, would they? You don't think for a minute that the Justice Department would arrange to have Riconosciuto's modest trailer/lab (Riconosciuto is a scientist by profession) raided by the FBI and in finding a couple of common solvents that could be used in the production of illegal drugs, then turn around and prosecute him on a contrived case of running a meth lab, would you? . The US Deptartment of Justice couldn't possibly be riddled with corrupt individuals who serve the special interests of hidden power groups who hold the US Constitution and the welfare of the American people in utter contempt, could they? Nah, not in America! (Well, on second thought, if you happen to be someone that Virginia is fond of, then you might be a victim of government railroading, as she wrote about one guy who was framed, according to her, in such a manner, but it's not possible in Riconosciuto's case, of course, because he's buddy-buddy, with Ted Gunderson- so he must be dirty.) Poisoned Inference Another thing I learned from McCullough's and Dixon's acrid web retorts on the Gunderson/Hartwell response as well as from reading their Gunderson Data Dump garbage (a dump is where you find garbage isn't it?) is their unbridled willingness to attack Ted for anything, regardless of how unconnected or innocuous it may be. For example, McCullough's biography of Ted includes the following lines: "Gunderson is 72 years old; he was born in Colorado Springs, Colorado on November 7, 1928. His own resume states that he is unmarried and has four children. He has an extensive background in law enforcement and attended the FBI Training School from December 10, 1951 to March 2, 1952..." Did you catch the middle line? "His own resume states that he is unmarried and has four children." What is McCullough trying to imply here? Is she trying to convey the idea of guilt, of lowly character perhaps, non-respectability and illegitimacy, but doing it in a way to avoid libel? Technically, the statement is true, but the way she phrases it makes the reader assume that Ted has four illegitimate children. She could have said that Ted was divorced with 4 children (all of them born to Ted's former wife), but instead she reaches deep into her Yellow Bag of Devious Insinuations to draw the reader closer to her desired goal of holding up Ted Gunderson as a contemptible person. She does this over and over again. Paragraph by paragraph, she allows no positive statement about Ted Gunderson to remain unchallenged or un tinged by her duplicitous insinuations. Is that what a "reporter" does or is that what a character assassin does? McMartin Preschool Here is where McCullough really begins to get wacky. She wants it both ways. She wants to keep her anti-NWO, "investigative reporter" halo firmly in place while at the same time, she wants to attack Ted over a national case in which he played a pivotal role in exposing. For those who have taken the time to study the McMartin Preschool case, you know that the physical abuse and satanic rituals endured by those 450 odd preschoolers over a number of years did indeed occur, that the tunnels the kids swore were there-were indeed there, and that the prosecutors did their damndest to lose that case and to abort/prevent the admission of key evidence that would have led to a conviction of McMartin and Ray Buckey (and possibly to an investigation of the Illuminated elites who were their sponsors and were the abusers of those "supplied" children). That's not to mention the convenient "suicide" of a star police- investigator witness against McMartin and Buckey. The press did their best to ridicule the efforts of Gunderson and the parents when they were trying to uncover the tunnels and- when the tunnels were uncovered by a hired professional archaeological team-the press immediately blacked the story out. As is always the case, the Illuminati got out their disinfo/debunking teams and went to town, especially on Gunderson because of his former FBI status. They shot down the parents and the children in the(ir) media with a professional hit team drawn together special for the occasion known as The False Memory Syndrome Foundation. They used an El Paso reporter/debunker by the name of Debbie Nathan to go after Ted in the Village Voice, the NY Times, and a number of other mainstream publications, as well as on TV. Nathan fronted herself as a "skeptic" of satanic ritual abuse. Fortunately, an author by the name of Alex Constantine who came out with a book called Psychic Dictatorship in the USA (1995) and articles on the internet, blew a very wide hole through Debbie Nathan and her "award winning" credibility. In the segment from the Gunderson Data Dump reprinted below, McCullough is obviously aware of Alex Constantine's expose of Debbie Nathan, yet she wants to use Nathan's already-proven lies to slam Ted anyway! Notice how McCullough reprints the web address for Nathan's slam piece, while telling the reader to "See critique of Nathan by Alex Constantine" -without actually providing a web address to view that critique (see 2 links above following Constantine's book) . Notice also that she includes Nathan's debunking remarks about the Dr. Jeffrey MacDonald case and how his story (guilt) was "detailed" in the Joe McGinniss book, Fatal Vision . Surely, our investigative bulldog must have known that Joe McGinniss and his two-timing-betrayal-of-Dr. MacDonald were thoroughly trounced in print (and in the courtroom by MacDonald's attorneys in his successful lawsuit against McGinniss) by Jerry Allen Potter and Fred Bost in their 1995 book, Fatal Justice (Norton & Co, NY, London), which demonstrated a far greater respect for the truth than McGinniss, Nathan, or McCullough seem capable of embracing. The following is reprinted directly from McCullough's garbage dump: 1990 - GUNDERSON WAS AN ACTIVIST IN THE McMARTIN PRESCHOOL CASE IN LOS ANGELES. Following is an excerpt of an article by Debbie Nathan who is well known to believe in false memory syndrome and to debunk as incredible, claims by children that they are abused. (See critique of Nathan by Alex Constantine.) Nathan's article does, however, outline the activities of Gunderson in the McMartin case: Source: <a href="http://users.cybercity.dk/~bkb1827/McMartin4.htm">users.cybercity.dk/~bkb18...artin4.htm</a> "Evidence of a Hoax - McMartin Preschool Tunnel Claims by Debbie Nathan © 1990: "In 1990, Jackie McCauley was living with Ted Gunderson. He is former head of the Los Angeles FBI office. After taking an early retirement in the late 1970s, Gunderson was hired by friends of Jeffrey MacDonald, the Green Beret convicted of brutally murdering his wife and small children. MacDonald's case is detailed in Joe McGiniss' book FATAL VISION. MacDonald always claimed that his family was murdered by a Charles Manson-like cult, and Gunderson located a female street person with a history of severe drug abuse who claimed she had been in the house with the cult when the family was murdered. From this work, Gunderson apparently adopted the idea that the country was overrun with murderous Satanic cults. He elaborated this idea when he was associated with Jackie McCauley and the rest of the McMartin parents. In the early 1980s, as Gunderson publicized his theories about Satanic cults, he began making bizarre claims to the media. One was that Satanists and the FBI were out to harm him. He once told the LA Times that someone had thrown a crowbar at him as he drove on the freeway. Another time, he said, he was sunbathing in his yard and awoke to find a satanic poem left at his side. In the late 1980s Gunderson became something of a regular on shows such as Geraldo. In May, 1989, after the Matamoros drug-cult killings, he appeared on Geraldo and claimed that Mason County, Washington was filled with satanist "killing fields" stocked with hundreds of dead bodies. The county went into a panic and parents took their children from school. Extensive investigation revealed no such fields. McCauley and Gunderson organized the 1990 McMartin dig and hired LA archaeologist Gary Sickel...." Debbie Nathan's outrageous slander (with the generous assistance of assassins like McCullough) against Ted is fairly summed up in the closing sentence of Alex Constantine's 1996 article titled, Martin Preschool Revisited (<a href="http://educate-yourself.org/tg/mcmartinpreschoolrevisited1996.shtml):">educate-yourself.org/tg/m...96.shtml):</a> "To come to the point: Nathan's propaganda, repeated in the New York Times and a host of other corporate publications, happened to conceal a classified mind control operation the CIA and Pentagon had undertaken thirty years before.... " That's pretty much what Ted was saying all along. to be continued... Free Newsletter Email Address: Join the Educate-Yourself Discussion Forum All information posted on this web site is the opinion of the author and is provided for educational purposes only. It is not to be construed as medical advice. Only a licensed medical doctor can legally offer medical advice in the United States. 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by **chiggerbit** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:06 pm

<a href="http://www.stewwebb.com/Gov%20Plants%20Gunderson%20&%20Bush%20Crime%20Family%20Cronies.html">www.stewwebb.com/Gov%20Pl...onies.html</a> www.stewwebb.com CIA TED GUNDERSON & BUSH CRIME FAMILY CRONIES (Stew's Report Below ) By: BarbaraHartwell Thursday, 2 October 2003, 4:08 p.m. Barbara Hartwell Legal Defense and Research Fund PO Box 7487 Ocean Park, Maine 04063 Website: <a href="http://www.barbarahartwell.com">www.barbarahartwell.com</a> Following is a report written by Federal Whistleblower Stew Webb, in response to ex-FBI agent Ted L. Gunderson's false accusations against him in a letter written by Gunderson on September 27, 2003. I am one of approximately 200 witnesses to be called in Stew's grand jury demand. I have discussed all the issues Stew mentions here with him at length and in great detail over the past two and a half years. I do have direct personal knowledge of some of the information Stew presents here, which has been corroborated by other witnesses, including but not limited to, Stew Webb and McMartin Preschool whistleblower and activist, Jackie McGauley. I cannot verify ALL the information Stew presents here. However Stew has posted documents on his website which CAN verify much of what he states to be true. Particularly involving Ted Gunderson's role in the sale of Stinger missiles to Osama bin Laden; the CIA operation known as The Finders; and as regards money laundering and the Promis/Inslaw scandal. Other documentation exists, not yet posted, but which will be on Stew's website soon. As a result of my post on Ted Gunderson on Rumor Mill News, provocateur, mental case and Gunderson dupe, Brenda Negri aka Ranger Rick, came to Gunderson's defense and is endorsing Gunderson on her website. Negri has now implicated herself even further in some very nefarious, criminal and felonious activities by posting all over the Internet on various message boards the following: "Stew Webb, Murder for Hire". That is, she took Gunderson's false accusation about Stew Webb and ran with it, trying to do as much damage as possible to Stew's reputation. Her many lies and libelous allegations about myself, Stew Webb, ex-FBI agent Geral Sosbee; Rayelan and others, tell anyone with a functioning brain precisely WHO she is and WHAT she is. It's obvious that Negri's REAL purpose (following along with Gunderson, whom she answers to) is to attempt to set up Stew on a false attempted murder charge. Negri has also falsely accused me, on her website, most recently, of "making terrorist threats across state lines", which is as much a crock of Negri's usual bullsh*t as ever. Now, consider this: Both Tim White and his sidekick, gov't dupe and scamster Shirley Anderson, have falsley accused me and Stew Webb of attempting to set up MURDERS, of themselves respectively. Both accuse me of working for the CIA. Negri and Anderson, along with journalist Virginia McCollough, of NewsMakingNews (who was stupid enough to use Tim White as a "source") have also tried to implicate me and Stew Webb in the death of investigative journalist Brian Quig. In fact, these lies have been posted not only on public message boards, but on websites such as APFN, Rick Stanley's Constitutional Activist website and others. Libel is one thing; it's bad enough. But it's hard to believe that these dupes and provocateurs could be SO STUPID as to leave themselves open for felony charges. Be that as it may, making a PUBLIC false accusation of ATTEMPTED MURDER is a felony. Making a DEATH THREAT (publicly or otherwise) is a felony. Here, as just one example, is a death threat against Barbara Hartwell, made by Brenda Negri, under the alias Ranger Rick, and posted by Larry Lawson on his newsgroup, LLNews. "The Mexican Mafia, the gangs, the heroin junkies and the meth dealers. They'll whip your ass into a pulp if we ask them to, and thats only if you're lucky. If you're not, they'll just flat kill ya......they'll slit your throat just as soon as say f*ck you " . Do these idiots really believe that they will be PROTECTED from prosecution ? Who do they think will protect them ? Ted Gunderson, maybe ? They need to think again. And do they really believe that a person such as myself, or Stew Webb, will allow them to continue their criminal harassment, felonious false accusations and death threats WITH IMPUNITY ? If so, they need to make a reality check, and SOON. These people are not only criminally insane, they are gutter trash and pond scum ! Insanity is no excuse. And let them try it, it won't be much of a defense in a court of law either. BH ---------------------------------------------------------------------- STEW WEBB REPORT Sept. 30, 2003 "CIA TED L. GUNDERSON & 'THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY CRONIES" By Stew Webb Federal Whistleblower All the statements made regarding me, Stew Webb Federal Whistleblower, in CIA-FBI Ted L. Gunderson's letter Dated Sept 27, 2003, claiming I hired someone to murder Denver FBI Cross-Dresser, Child Porno Queen, Drug Addict Tim White; stating I am a drug user; stating I spent 7 months in a mental hospital; stating I have a criminal record, are nothing but pure LIES from a professional GOVT. OPERATIVE STILL WORKING FOR THE GOVERNMENT AS A PATRIOT SPY & one scared on-the- run Govt. Plant known as CIA Ted L.Gunderson. First: Tim White is an attempted extortionist, a slanderous punk, who will lie to anyone who will pay him, He is a declared mental case feeding Denver FBI with perjured information, which is a felony. He has been declared mentally unstable by the Colorado Department of Corrections (Prison) system who evaluated him after being busted on dope charges in 2001 and a convicted felon. I had him busted after he tried to extort me for money $100,000 for boxes of documents he was storing in Colorado for me. I did not know this punk except by others who claimed it would be safe to leave these vital documents there. He has been playing snitch to the Denver FBI in exchange for his freedom and his probation dropped (Oct 2002). He had continuously lied to the Denver FBI, but after nothing checked out they dropped him, and my former father in law hired him at the direction of Denver FBI to criminally harass and stalk me on the internet, he has made death threats to myself and others, including Barbara Hartwell. Tim White further criminally harasses and slanders, stating Stew Webb is on lithium. I am not on lithium or any medication. I have never hired nor attempted to hire anyone to murder anyone. I was held as a Political Prisoner from 1992-1993 for exposing the Savings and Loan (Silverado Saving & Loan Scandal Neil Bush Director),the HUD Scandal, the Denver International Airport Scandal, The Keating 5 MDC Holdings 200 Illegal Political Campaign Money Laundering, involving my ex father in law The Bush Crime Family Boss Hog Leonard Millman, aka "The Denver Connection". During the 10 1/2 months I was Illegally held as a Political Prisoner I was evaluated by the U.S. Government's Shrinks, who stated there was nothing the matter with me. This was part of The Bush Crime Family's game to try and get you declared crazy. This failed. The charges of Death Threats that never occurred and reported by Leonard Millman were Dismissed with Prejudice Aug 20, 1993, By U.S. Federal Judge Richard Matsch, Denver Colorado. Third: I have been Illegally arrested 30 times on false charges for exposing the Bush Crime Family's Denver Connections. All Charges have always been dismissed. There are no conviction against me. Yet to this day, the U.S. Government has falsified the NCIC Computer system record on me, which is part of my Federal Grand Jury indictments, ready to present. Yes, I have given the FBI and lots of other Federal Agencies, Congressional Investigations, Inspector Generals and others information relating to "The Bush Crime Family" activities. Yes, I gave FBI agent Robin Salvador of the Las Vegas office information relating to Bush Terrorist activities, in particular the Ft. Worth Shooting in 1999, the Alaskan Airliner Crash and other terrorist activities of The Bush Crime Family during a short time. I requested an informant number for my own protection. I was referred by FBI Denver Agent Mark Holtslaw who I now know is running a cover-up operation, working for the Bad Guys in the FBI. I even gave them this info a week before each event, to try and stop it. During this the period of time CIA Ted Gunderson had infiltrated me, I did not know he was working for General John Singlaub and CIA George Pender, controllers for "The Bush Crime Family". Yes, I was fooled by Criminal CIA Shadow Govt. Bush Crime Family Player Ted L. Gunderson, like many of you are and have been. Further, Gunderson has referred to a video I have called CIA Terror In America where I state I went to the FBI to report this to the Las Vegas Office. See: <a href="http://www.stewwebb.com">www.stewwebb.com</a> Videos, under Table of Contents. It is a great Video, and explains a lot, one full hour. Go to my web site to get your copy. Yes, I am a Federal Whistleblower against Government Corruption. I do not, and never have worked for the U.S. Government or any other Government, or Agency. Except when I was in the USMC in my late teens, and received an honorable discharge. I currently have a Federal Grand Jury Demand against The Bush Crime Family naming CIA Ted L. Gunderson as one who brought false charges to extort me out of documents with a convicted felon killer, Tom Gaule of Las Vegas. Those charges were dropped 1 month prior to a Jury Trial by the Prosecution, December, 2001. The prosecutors knew I was innocent of the false charges of robbery which is a form of assault in Nevada. They were dismissed with Prejudice. Further, Gunderson was involved in murder of a Black Panther acting as an FBI Agent in the early 1970s. Gunderson sold Stinger Missiles to Terrorist Bin Laden for the Bush Crime Family's Shadow Government, whom CIA Ted L. Gunderson still works for. This was why he was still working as the head of the FBI, LA. Is the FBI supposed to supply terrorists with Stingers?? Gunderson was involved in other murders of adults who were part of CIA-Satanic Sex rings. Gunderson is involved in a wet-ops to identify and kill those who are victims, now adults who could finger Bush Crime Family Members and other Satanists. Gunderson was further involved with various illegal activities, Iran/Contra Drug & Weapons shipments Inslaw software, neutralizing of key witnesses, murder etc. Gunderson further is a scamster for the Bush Crime Family. He offers Gold Scams with his Criminal Felon Partner Victor Hancock of Las Vegas, and steals the life savings from little old ladies. Gunderson further sells as a scam, condominiums on Baja, an Island in Mexico, to patriots, and others he can con into purchasing these so called condos to be build in 5 years, with payments now on something that does not exist. He further owes over one million dollars to little old ladies he has conned out of the money, claiming, I need to borrow this money to break open the Nebraska case, and I have a client who will be paying me $300,000 in two months, you loan me the $50,000 I will pay you back then. He never has a client and never pays them back. Several complaints have been filed against him. He further claims he retired from the FBI, Gunderson was relieved of duty, kicked out for holding Satanic Ceremonies in his FBI Office, and was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic. (A NUT CASE) 2 of his adult children have been repeatedly hospitalized for this condition. This is why the FBI Alumni kicked him out. Further Gunderson claims he is against Satanism. If this is the case, WHY DID TED L. GUNDERSON MARRY ANTON LAVEY's WIDOW, Diana Rively, IN 1998, Anton Lavey, THE FOUNDER OF THE CHURCH OF SATAN IN AMERICA ????? For the record Tim White, Ted Gunderson, Doug Millar, Brenda Negri, Shirley Anderson, Larry Lawson, are all tied together as Agents Provocateurs working to do Criminal Harassment, slander and defamation of character, to try and ruin my reputation. Since January 2003 when I got my internet site up <a href="http://www.stewwebb.com">www.stewwebb.com</a> with evidence on The Bush Crime Family, these Criminals have all worked daily to criminally harass and slander, and threaten myself and others, including radio talk show hosts. I have proof these people are tied to Leonard Millman Bush Crime Family Boss Hog my former father in law and the Denver FBI offices for the Bush Crime Family. Ex FBI, Now CIA Shadow Government Player Ted L. Gunderson is the ring leader of these dupes and provocateurs. There are so many indictments to present to the grand jury regarding the above named, including information I am not yet at liberty to discuss, of criminal activities they have all participated in. I might add that since I released the entire FULL-- not blacked out-- CIA/George H.W. BUSH/Richard CHENEY CHILD SEX RING reports "Finders" in Aug 2003 on my internet site, suddenly Ted Gunderson now claims in this letter he has been exposing The Finders. He passed out "blacked out" 3 pages as disinformation for the gov. to discredit the operation. And John Decamp's Nebraska cover-up was not limited to Nebraska, it was nation wide, all the orphanages were used, and the operation was called "Brownstone" to blackmail congress and senate with kids. George Pender was in charge of Brownstone, Pender was a Partner of CIA Clint Murchison and CIA-FBI Ted L. Gunderson. Gunderson was in Dallas living at the Murchison Estate for 1 year while he did a radio show on short wave late 1990s, during that time he accused Radio Talk Show Host Art Bell of being a child molester, and Gunderson was sued and Art Bell won The Case against Ted Gunderson for slander. Therefore I am going to conclude my report, and ask that anyone reading this to visit my internet site below, and review the link associated with these Criminals named above. My reports and the reports by Jackie McGauley, a mother of a victim of the McMartin Preschool case, who Gunderson broke her finger, made her deaf in one ear, and forced her to file bankruptcy as a result of his stealing her credit cards and using them, and his infiltration to cover up the McMartin case, these reports are here. <a href="http://www.stewwebb.com">www.stewwebb.com</a> McMartin Preschool case. I have tons of documents sent to me by Jackie, relating to CIA Ted Gunderson and his illegal activities. Jackie McGauley's Credentials & Reputation are impeccable. And The Reports by Former CIA Operative Barbara Hartwell <a href="http://www.barbarahartwell.com">www.barbarahartwell.com</a> All these reports are detailed about the above named Criminals, they can be found on either internet site. Barbara Hartwell's Credentials & Reputation are impeccable. I have named some of these "Criminal Government Agents" & Government Provocateurs (Domestic Contact Services) in My Federal Grand Jury Demand Dated July 3, 2003 Case Number 95-Y-107 Filed U.S. District Court Denver Colorado. Attached are links to my web-site <a href="http://stewwebb.com">stewwebb.com</a> , which lay out in detail who these people, named herein, really are. Thank You, Stew Webb Federal Whistleblower

by **chiggerbit** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:10 pm

<a href="http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/04-01-05/discussion.cgi.19.html">www.apfn.net/messageboard...gi.19.html</a> Barbara Hartwell ACCUSED OF WORKING FOR CIA BY RUMOR MILL NEWS Fri Apr 1, 2005 23:52 64.140.158.71 ACCUSED OF WORKING FOR CIA BY RUMOR MILL NEWS, INTIMIDATED BY TED GUNDERSON Ted knows damn well this is NOT true, that I do not work for CIA, as do most of the others promoting this lie, including Rayelan Allan of Rumor Mill News, who was intimidated by Ted Gunderson and is scared to death of him, as she admitted to me herself, in both phone conversations and e-mails,over a period of time ranging from 2000 to 2003. She told me that her former husband, Gunther Russbacher, had warned her never to say anything against Ted Gunderson, because if she did he might have her eliminated. Rayelan was getting harassing phone calls from Gunderson and his lackey, Tim White, in 2003, after I exposed some of their criminal activities on Rumor Mill News. She attempted to dissuade me from publishing the truth about these criminals. I refused to be censored or told what to do, and she finally caved in to their threats. Rayelan betrayed me out of cowardice (and also greed, fearing she would lose her profits from Rumor Mill News) and subsequently publicly accused me of working for CIA, as did many of the so- called "news agents" who post their New Age drivel on her website. Not one of them stood up for me or confronted Rayelan for her lies, and I have lost respect for them all. And Rayelan is now publishing disinformation from Gunderson and his dupe, Tim White. Nothing surprises me anymore. I'm certainly profoundly disgusted at the cowardice and money-grubbing attitudes, but not surprised. But, unlike Ken Adachi, I DO have an open mind and I AM willing to listen and consider evidence when it's placed in front of me. I admitted long ago that I had been hoodwinked by Gunderson and so have others, including Stew Webb and Jackie McGauley. All of us eventually woke up to the truth. And we have all paid a heavy price for exposing that truth. A price we continue to pay to this day. JACKIE MCGAULEY'S RESPONSE TO KEN ADACHI Here are Jackie's comments to Ken Adachi: [Ted stole the body of his work from me. I got documents from journalists in exchange for my interviews. I got ALL of the material on Michael Aquino and Anton Lavey from Ivan Sharpe of the San Francisco Chronicle. He got them from Anton and Aquino. Ted stole the files when he was sharing my house --the place where he embezzled $30,000 from me. He got his information about Aleister Crowley from me in conversations about what I had read. I confirmed with his ex-wife Jocelyn that Ted does not read books or know how to use a computer. All that crap about how great he is, is written by his "Associates." [Ken Aadachi & Co.] Ted met Sue Ford aka Brice Taylor, Noreen Gosch and many others, through me. No professionals that I worked with during that time would have anything to do with Ted, in fact they warned me to get away from him. I let him stay because he had gotten me in debt and I was determined to make him pay me back. Jackie ] LETTER FROM TIM WHITE TO JACKIE MCGAULEY Here is a letter written by Tim White to Jackie McGauley. Following is her response to Tim White's defense of COINTELPRO operative Ted Gunderson, whom White answers to. Tim White wrote: [I know from the lips of Noreen Gosch that you are a LIAR, Jackie McGauley. She called me 2 weeks ago to tell me of her strong support for Ted and also about what a FRAUD Barbara (Babbles Barfwell) Hartwell is-same for Lithium Stewwie. I also received an e-mail from Virginia McCullough stating the same thing. While I am aware of VM s' data dump on Gunderson,she says the same for you Jackie. Didn't like that you got caught in your scam at the conference at Chino- trying to get Gunderson bumped from his INVITED speaking engagement- did you? I am responsible for that happening.What do you expect? When you hook up with a fraud like LIAR SHI*THEAD WEBB.You don't need to question who I am but we ALL need to question who YOU are, since you seem to be part of the same CIA/FBI/NSA/DOJ disinformation operation.I don't speak or spread lies but I love to uncover the LIES of others and I will continue doing just that. Tim White ] JACKIE MCGAULEY'S RESPONSE TO TIM WHITE [I know Ted Gunderson, too. Unfortunately, he spent 3 years at my house in the early 90s. I don't know if he is a victim of MKUltra, but he sure had some "interesting" friends. And he sure is erratic. Abusive? I was afraid to tell my doctor when I went to be treated for the spiral fracture of a finger. I took all of his phone calls during that period so I know who he was dealing with. Michael Riconosciuto, his father Marshall, Ray Lavas, Tony Patterson, and numerous weird characters frequently visited and called him at my house. He ran up bills so enormous that when I finally got him to leave I was forced to file bankruptcy. I was a struggeling single mother with 2 small children. We literally starved and barely kept a roof over our heads because of the devastation Ted left in his path. My weight went down to 95 pounds. He knows I believe in documentation. He took most of my papers on child molestation cases from my files and has them for sale. If I hadn't been one step away from a homeless shelter the past 10 years I would have filed a suit against him --that, plus he does not have a physical address --he still "sleeps on people's couches" as he told me. One of those years is documented very well in Cheri Seymour's (AKA Carole Marshall) book The Last Circle--available online. I wonder who Tim White is. He has talked about me in his rantings but I don't know him. What are his credentials? What does he do for a living? What is his education? Why does he spread all those lies? If he wants some facts --documented-- all he needs to do is ask. I really doubt he wants any facts. But you don't have to talk to me, just go to the Hall of Records in LA County, Orange County, ANY county where Ted Gunderson has operated, and look up records on him. You will be amazed! JM ] SOME PERSONAL COMMENTS FROM BARBARA HARTWELL TO NOREEN GOSCH Now let me end this letter by asking you, Noreen, to please at least consider all of what I've offered here. If you have been hoodwinked by Ted Gunderson, please understand that this is something which could happen to anyone (and certainly has, to many decent, intelligent people) especially those who have suffered grievous injustices of one kind or another at the hands of criminal elements of government, and don't know where else to turn for help. Some (all mothers of abused and/or abducted children) paid large sums of money to either Gunderson, as an investigator, or to John DeCamp, whom they retained as an attorney. None of the people whom I have talked to ever received the justice (nor even the legal services) they were promised. But in any case (whether money changed hands or not) when these individuals are offered "help" by Gunderson, many take it because they have despaired of getting any assistance through the courts, or from law enforcement, though most have tried going that route. I know of several such individuals (whose names I am not at liberty to mention) all of whom have told me the same basic story about their involvement with DeCamp and/or Gunderson: Long story short, they were left twisting in the wind. This is precisely what happened to me. In 1997, when I first met Ted Gunderson, I made the mistake of turning to him because at the time I was vulnerable in having gone public with my case and I was alone up against the CIA, who were trying to neutralize me. No one else was willing to help me. To this day, I have received no assistance whatsoever from the so- called "justice system". I ask you, Noreen, where's the justice ? Have you ever gotten justice ? And has Ted Gunderson, ever, at any time, actually done anything of a concrete nature which brought justice ? Or has he just talked about justice, leading you on a wild goose chase, where justice is supposedly just around every corner, but never materializes ? I have had to pursue justice on my own, for myself and my family, doing my own investigations, these many years. In all that time, I have never had even one trustworthy person I could rely on to help me; to stand up for me, or even with me. This holds true to this day, though I pray that will change at some future time. But meanwhile, I will continue to pursue justice, I will continue to stand up for the truth, even if I have to keep standing alone. Please know that this letter is written to you in all sincerity, respectfully, and in empathy with your situation. I haven't lived through a situation which compares to yours, but I do have a son who is only a few years younger than Johnny, whom I had to watch like a hawk and fight for like a wildcat, all through his childhood, to protect him from the CIA criminals; to stop them from getting hold of him, the way they did with me, when I was just a child, recruited without my informed consent from a family of spies (OSS/CIA/Military Intel) in their misguided efforts to "create the perfect spy", trained under the CIA's MK Ultra program. I was never personally subjected to sexual abuse (as I've stated publicly before, I would have killed anyone who tried that, in self defense) but as previously mentioned, I do have a sister, very dear to me, who was raped and tortured by some of the most dangerous criminals on the planet, and whom I have risked my life repeatedly to help and to attempt to rescue from the clutches of CIA. Child abusers (and those who traffic in the child sex slavery /pornography trade) are the lowest scum on the face of the earth. I want to see them all behind bars for their crimes against children and for the heartbreak and suffering they cause for the rest of us, those who love them. I sincerely hope, for your sake, that you will find out the truth about the identity of your son. Also that he will somehow return to you and be a part of your life. With God, all things are possible, so that is my prayer for you, Noreen. That is something I don't have the wherewithal to help you with, nor would I presume to interfere in your business, nor to make or disseminate dubious and unsubstantiated claims of "100% CONFIRMATION", as so many others, such as Tim White, have done. But I would be glad to speak with you, to answer any questions you may have about the information outlined here, if you think it would be helpful to you. If not, I can only assume that you will simply disregard this information. At least I'll know I've tried, whatever you may think of me, and I will have no hard feelings if you choose to simply dismiss everything I have said. That is your prerogative, which I will respect. I also have supporting documentation to corroborate some of the facts. If you wish to contact me you may do so at the postal address given at the top of the page. I do not publish my private e- mail address, since I do not wish to have contact with the public, but you are also free to send an e-mail to me when you (or perhaps one of your associates) receive this letter. Thank you for your consideration, whatever you may decide. May God bless you, Barbara Hartwell March 28, 2005 ===================== CIA MIND CONTROL IN ACTION!!!! Main Page - Friday, 04/01/05 Message Board by American Patriot Friends Network [APFN] APFN MESSAGEBOARD ARCHIVES

by **chiggerbit** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:28 pm

<a href="http://www.newsmakingnews.com/tgsc.htm">www.newsmakingnews.com/tgsc.htm</a> GUNDERSON, THE DRUG RING INVESTIGATOR AND HIS INVOLVEMENT IN DANNY CASOLARO'S INVESTIGATION OF THE OCTOPUS. Excerpt from Chapter 3, The Last Circle by Cherie Seymore © 1997 CLICK TO READ THE ENTIRE CHAPTER: <a href="http://www.lycaeum.org/books/books/last_circle/3.htm">www.lycaeum.org/books/boo...rcle/3.htm</a> "....The last remnants of the D.I.G. group were beginning to call themselves "The Loser's Club," resembling forlorn characters out of a Stephen King novel. They had squared off against a labyrnthine evil so incomprehensible, they didn't know what they were fighting. It was time to bring in some outside help. During a strategy meeting in Jackson, California, Ben Wagner had received an impressive 700 page report commissioned by the Tulare City Council. The report, compiled by Ted Gunderson, a former Los Angeles FBI agent, was indepth and straightforward about deputies receiving payoffs and distributing drugs in the small farmtown of Tulare. Wagner had given me a copy for my files. On an impulse, I picked up the phone and called Gunderson's telephone number listed at the top of the attached resume. The resume was impressive. He'd worked as SAC (Senior Special Agent in Charge) at Los Angeles FBI headquarters, Washington D.C. headquarters and in Dallas, Texas. It would be two years before I would grasp the significance of the Dallas connection. After retiring from the FBI, he'd worked for F. Lee Baily, Esq., then formed his own investigative agency in Los Angeles county. I left a message with the answering service and he returned the call a few days later. His voice was open, attentive, devoid of the bureaucratic hollowness I had come to expect from FBI agents. We talked briefly, mostly about the problem DIG was experiencing in Mariposa . I said I needed help, anticipating his next question. But none came forth. Instead, a clipped knowingness entered his tone, as if nothing more should be said on the phone. He agreed to meet with me at his home a few weeks later and we hung up. Unknown to me at the time, I had taken a quantum leap in the direction of the Octopus when I contacted Ted Gunderson. The mystery of the Mariposa coverups would soon be divulged through an associate of his, a former member of "The Company" in nearby Fresno, California. ****** On November 30, 1991, Ted Gunderson opened the door at his Manhattan Beach home and ushered us into a small living room cluttered with toys. He made no explanation for the toys scattered around the floor and the couch, but offered coffee and donuts, then proceeded to eat most of the donuts himself. I had expected someone dripping with intrigue, instead he was classic in the sense of an investigator; rumpled shirt and slacks, nervous movements, distracted behavior. We sat on the couch bunched together amongst the toys. Gunderson pulled a kitchen chair up in front of us, leaned over and began stuffing his mouth with cheese and crackers, all the while talking, his body in perpetual motion. He was a big, handsome man with an aging face and tossled silver hair. He seemed entirely unaware of his appearance or the appearance of his home, but his pale eyes were intelligent and probing. Intuitively, I knew he was more than he appeared to be. A young woman, perhaps early thirties, entered the room brushing long blond hair, still wet from the shower. Her faded jeans and sundrenched appearance reminded me of friends I'd known growing up in Newport Beach. Gunderson introduced her as his "partner," as she seated herself silently on the floor next to him. The flush on her face brought a fleeting prescience to me that they had been making love shortly before the meeting. Ray Jenkins recounted the Mariposa story for several hours, with the rest of us digressing to insert a fact here or there. The investigation had led beyond Mariposa into MCA Corporation, and various State and Federal levels of government. I noted that Danny Casolaro 's research had started at the eastern end, in Washington D.C., yet he had been preparing to travel to California for the rest of the story, before his death three months earlier. Gunderson listened carefully, occasionally interrupting to ask questions, then motioned us to follow him to the backyard. There we stood in a circle in the middle of his yard while he surveyed the area. Satisfied that he was not being watched, he agreed to come to Mariposa , with media, and perform a citizens arrest on the corrupt officials. He pulled a frazzled piece of paper from his pocket and gave me a list of telephone numbers to write down. They were numbers to telephone booths at various locations in the vicinity of his home. Each booth had been coded 1,2,3,4, or 5. He instructed that the next time I called him, he would give me the code number of the booth and a time to call. I would then call him at the designated booth. Eight hours later, I handed him a copy of my first book, as a courtesy, then left Manhattan Beach loaded with newspaper clippings and documents, mostly relating to Casolaro 's investigation of the Octopus. One packet was titled, "The Wonderful Weapons of Wackenhut," others related to the Inslaw affair, Iran/Contra and various savings and loan scandals. In the van, reviewing the documents, I wondered what relationship they had to Mariposa County and why I was given the packet. The documents were far ranging, beyond anything I had heretofore imagined. But within days of my visit to Gunderson, I would be introduced to the Octopus. ****** The following morning, at 7:30 a.m., I received a collect call from a man who identified himself as Michael Riconosciuto (pronounced Riconoshooto). Riconosciuto, calling from the Pierce County jail in Tacoma, Washington, said he had been informed by Gunderson that I was investigating a corruption/drug ring in Mariposa County. For 45 minutes Riconosciuto related the names of those in charge of methamphetamine operations in Mariposa, Madera and Fresno counties. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CLICK TO READ THE ENTIRE CHAPTER: <a href="http://www.lycaeum.org/books/books/last_circle/3.htm">www.lycaeum.org/books/boo...rcle/3.htm</a>

by **chiggerbit** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:33 pm

Ted Gunderson's web site: <a href="http://www.tedgunderson.com/">www.tedgunderson.com/</a>

by **chiggerbit** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:40 pm

<a href="http://sitbot.net/htm/8392.html">sitbot.net/htm/8392.html</a> From: "Stewart Webb" <stewwebb@s...> Date: Mon Jun 30, 2003 8:21 pm Subject: STOP YOUR LIES CIA GOV. STALKER TED L. GUNDERSON (A must Read) www.stewwebb.com STOP THE LIES: BOYCOTT 'CONTROLLED AMERICA' CONFERENCE Date: Thursday, 26 June 2003, Barbara Hartwell Legal Defense and Research Fund PO Box 832 Woodstock NY 12498 Website: <a href="http://www.barbarahartwell.com">www.barbarahartwell.com</a> Note from Babs: The following is a report from Jackie McGauley, in reference to Ted Gunderson's interference and spreading of lies and disinformation in more than one high profile case of child abuse, as well as Gunderson's attempts to promote himself at the expense of the victims. Ken Adachi, Ted's mouthpiece is also involved in promoting these lies and disinformation, through his website, Educate-Yourself ( URL given below). Included in Jackie's letter are some documents, including a letter from Ted Gunderson. If you are interested in THE TRUTH about the McMartin Preschool case, you may contact Jackie at: TunnelReport@a... See: www.stewwebb.com Table of Contents McMartin Preschhool CIA Ted Gunderson Dump-site STOP THE LIES ABOUT GOVERNMENT MIND CONTROL & SATANIC RITUAL ABUSE : BOYCOTT THE CONTROLLED AMERICA CONFERENCE ! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- By Jackie McGauley: A mutual friend of mine and Joe Klaas, Polly's grandfather, gave Joe my home phone number and suggested he call me about my case (McMartin). Joe called me to talk about the kind of abuse the kids in my case went through and told me that he was unhappy about all of the psychics that were hanging around the center where the search for Polly was being organized. I talked to Joe several times about ritual abuse and my case and how these bizarre crimes happen. I did not see the connection he had made between my case and his at the time. Days later I got another call from Joe. He told me that Ted Gunderson was planning to come to Petaluma where Ted's close friend Doug Millar had a small group of fundamentalist Satanic crime busters and do a press conference about Polly. Joe asked me how he could stop that from happening. I told him that he could not stop him but the best way to deal with it was to just ignore the whole thing. If anyone asked to say that they had nothing to do with Gunderson and just stay away from it. A week or so later I received this letter from Ted: ___________________________________________________________ TED L. GUNDERSON AND ASSOCIATES • International Security Consulting and Investigations 2210 Wilshire Blvd.• Suite 422•Snta Monica, CA 90403• 310/364-2280 1/1/93 Dear Jackie I learned last night that Polly Klaas's grandfather called me at your home shortly after she was kidnapped for the purpose of having me help locate her. As a result of his conversation with you he decided not to use my services. I believe I could have helped with this case, especially early on, and perhaps saves a little girls life. If this scenario brings you pleasure then think how you would feel if [my children's names] were kidnapped and you needed the help of a top professional. Our personal problems are one thing but when it affects a little girls life you are going too far. GET HELP NOW Ted Member, Society of Former Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation _________________________________________________________________ Joe called me, not Ted. I consider this letter libelous and if Ted had an address where a subpoena could be served, I would have been able sue him. The first day I rented my house where Ted lived with me I was forced to accept a subpoena for $90,000 for an office complex he rented and never paid the rent. Unfortunately for them Ted had evaded them long enough that the statute had run out and they were unable to proceed. For those of you that don't already know, Ted was kicked out of the Special Agent's Society. The only agent in the history of the FBI to ever be banned from that group. This morning I got a call from Assistant District Attorney Greg Jacobs of the Sonoma County DA office. Greg was the lead prosecutor in the Polly Klaas trial. He reconfirmed for me that Ted Gunderson had absolutely nothing to do with the Polly Klaas case. Ted is giving a speech in Davis in a few weeks. I have been trying to contact the organizers to let them know that Ted has no authorization to talk about my case or the Polly Klaas case. Greg gave me his phone number (707 565-3797) and told me that if anyone had a question weather or not Ted was involved in the case they could call him. Here is the notice for the Davis speech: _____ Controlled America Conference Presented July 12 & 13, 2003 From: Lani Tachera lanijoanne@e... <a href="http://educate-yourself.org/mc/controlamericajulyconf02jun03.shtml">educate-yourself.org/mc/c...un03.shtml</a> June 2, 2003 Controlled America lectures were formed to educate the public about the Government's Directed Energy Program. Through rallies, lectures, videos, and books, they expose the human rights abuses/torture involving the U.S. Government, military, C.I.A., F.B.I. and Independent Contractors and their use of bio-electronic weapons (such as extremely low frequency {ELF} electromagnetic weapons, which have been used as mind control devices). When: Saturday, July 12, 2003 10:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m.. & Sunday July 13, 2003, 1:00p.m. to 6:00p.m. Where: Unitarian Church, Davis, California Cost: $35.00 each day Learn about GPS satellite & Microchips, Government Mind Control Programs, Directed Energy Weapons Harassment, HAARP, CIA Satanic Ritual Abuse, & CIA Drug Dealings. Ted Gunderson - "CIA Satanic Ritual Abuse." Ted is a retired FBI Sr. Special Agent-in-charge in the Los Angeles office. He has worked on exposing CIA and U.S. Govt. satanic ritual abuse cases for 20+ years. Some of his more high profile cases have been the McMartin preschool, Polly Klass, and Franklin cover-up. <a href="http://www.tedgunderson.com">www.tedgunderson.com</a> ____ I have made it clear that Ted had NOTHING to do with my case, and has no authorization to put it on his resume much less give speeches claiming he was hired by anyone-or that he spent any of "his own" money on the investigation. This would be an excellent place for me and others to serve him with a subpoena for the money he stole form me and Mrs. Homer Young, and Lillian Madsen and Mary Scheibe, and many others as all of Ted's addressees are either mail box drops or other people's homes. Jackie McGauleyTunnelReport@a... See: www.stewwebb.com Table of Contents McMartin Preschool Stew Webb Federal Whistleblower Special Section Exposing Government Plants & Patriot Spy-Name Takers---CIA Ted Gunderson Dump-site

by **chiggerbit** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:46 pm

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Ted Gunderson <a href="http://educate-yourself.org/tg/webbvgunderson10sep03.shtml">educate-yourself.org/tg/w...ep03.shtml</a> Sept. 10, 2003 From the Educate-Yourself Discussion forum Sept. 10, 2003: Message 4826 of 4831 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] Message Index <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Educate-Yourself_Forum/message/4826">groups.yahoo.com/group/Ed...ssage/4826</a> From: "rods892002" <rods89@hotmail.com> Date: Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:31 am Subject: More New Secret Bush Documents www.stewwebb.com From: "ken_adachi2001" <pitari@aaahawk.com> Date: Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:59 am Subject: Re: More New Secret Bush Documents & Stew Webb Stew Webb is a stooge working for the FBI and likely other covert intelligence agencies in order to discredit and smear Ted Gunderson. He is possibly under mind control. His cover story is being a Bush "whistle blower". Unfortunately, what he "reveals" has already been published and exposed by others. What he doesn't reveal is, that before he was a self proclaimed "whistle blower" (the CIA's latest 'good guy tag' used by their most obedient stooges like Webb or Barbara Hartwell), he wormed himself into Ted Gunderson's life as an "informant" in exchange for Ted providing him with free room and board for over seven months. Ted also bought him a suit and a used truck, as the man didn't have a dime to his name-or so he claimed. Out of the blue, about 2 years ago, while Ted was away on a speaking tour, Webb is observed in Ted's Las Vegas condo moving around dozens and dozens of Ted's boxes filled with files, books, tapes, documentation, emergency food, etc. Webb is being observed by Ted's elederly live-in house keeper, "May". Webb had moved out of Ted's condo (at Ted's request) about 3 weeks prior, but was allowed into the condo by another man staying there at the time. That man went out that night and Webb was left alone with the housekepper. He told May that he was going to arrange and straighten up Ted's boxes. That same night, Webb moved May's bed around so that she could no longer clearly observe the hallway where he was stacking up all of Ted's boxes (now why would he do that I wonder?. The next morning, May finds that ALL of the boxes that Webb had piled in the hall WERE GONE. She calls Ted and tells him the story. Ted returns home and contacts the police. He fills out a police report and names Webb as the principle suspect in the theft of 35 BOXES of Ted's property. The cops pay Webb a visit, but find none of the boxes at his home (what a surprise). Webb gets VERY irate that Ted should think he would be responsible for the theft of these boxes (one red flag indicator of possible MC programming). A couple of months later, Webb gets this theft investigation dropped, without indictment. Around the same time, he also gets a NINETY DAY SUSPENDED sentence for three felony charges pending against him (including threatening a motorist and his wife with a gun, and an assault case). Now, how is it that a man who doesn't have a job and no visible means of support can afford his own rent? How is that a convicted felon with a lengthy criminal record, including seven months spent at a federal correctional institution for the mentally insane (in Springfield, Missouri) can get the Las Vegas prosecutor's office to plea bargain down three felony indictments to a 90 day suspended sentence? Something doesn't compute here. You think maybe he has unseen "friends" helping him out in the background? Ken Adachi ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy To: Editor@educate-yourself.org Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:31 PM Subject: Stewart Webb.v. Ted Gunderson Hello: I live in Las Vegas, and in the past occasionally listened to radio shows (Lou Epton) featuring BOTH Gunderson and Webb. I have met Gunderson personally at various promotional/for money type "seminars" that he was involved in sponsoring. This was at least 4 years ago. He seemed to be a congenial fellow, otherwise I had no opinion. Webb is a radical type as anyone can tell listening to him speak, but to judge that he is a mind-controlled stooge is beyond my powers of observation. Gunderson, after all WORKED for the government and still collects his government pension, so to assume that he is totally objective would be an assumption at best. My husband collects an annuity, (medically related and very small, nonetheless he would be bereft without it), so to think that Mr. Gunderson would risk his souce of income is not a likely scenario. The whole subject is interesting, especially since I live here and hear thoughts and suppositions every now and then relative to the on-going dispute. I found your observations fascinating. I have no personal comment because I really have no personal "knowledge" of the facts, but thank you anyway. Sincerely, Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Adachi To: Nancy Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 3:07 PM Subject: Re: Stewart Webb.v. Ted Gunderson Hi Nancy, The subject of mind control is a deep field to plow. The degree of sophistication employed is simply unknown to the vast majority of people, even to those who know something of the subject. It is not possible to detect a victim of MC by casual observation. That's probably why Fritz Springmeier titled his lengthy tome on Mind Control as " The Illuminati Formula For Creating an Undetectable Mind Controlled Slave". With rare exceptions, the victim does not realize that he's under mind control. People are sometimes metaphorically referred to as robots under mind control, but they certainly don't act like a mechanical robot. What is known, is that there are likely more than 10 million people living in the United States who have been programmed under mind control (ref. Cisco Wheeler, Fritz Springmeier, Al Bielek, Brian Desborough, David Icke, others). Now, when the secret government spends that much effort and money to create a mind controlled slave, you don't think they're all going to wind up as grape pickers do you? They are going to insert those people into positions that can exercise INFLUENCE over others. That would include journalists, radio talk show hosts, "researchers", judges, doctors, dentists, politicians, etc. You get the idea. In Webb's case, do you really think it was an 'accident' that he contacted Gunderson and gets Gunderson to take him in for seven months and then turns around and does an overnight 180 degree betrayal of him? Are you familiar with the expression "covert plant"? One must carefully examine the body of "research" that people like Webb produce, coupled with what they say and ask yourself 'why' they would say so and so. You need to employ discernment, care, and INTELLIGENCE in gauging the merits of their words. Since you already acknowledge that Webb is a "radical type", that should at least open some doors of perception for you about his nature and character. E.g.: Do people of high integrity and character who are known for their fidelity to truthfulness, behave like Stew Webb behaves? I did not definitively state that Webb was a mind controlled person. I said he's "possibly" under mind control. That's a speculative supposition, not a statement of fact. This is what I meant when I referred to a "careful" examination of words and statements. He's definitively a stooge, though. Gunderson receives a pension from the government because he retired from the FBI in 1979 after 28 years of service. He's entitled to a pension and is receiving that pension because he's legally entitled to it. He doesn't have to be in cahoots with the government in order to keep his pension coming in nor does he have to remain on the FBI 's 'good side' in order to receive it. If your thinking is so limited that you're ready to suspect Gunderson of being less than 'totally objective' because he receives a government pension, then you could easily be accused of not being very 'objective' yourself. Regards, Ken Free Newsletter Email Address: Join the Educate-Yourself Discussion Forum All information posted on this web site is the opinion of the author and is provided for educational purposes only. It is not to be construed as medical advice. Only a licensed medical doctor can legally offer medical advice in the United States. Consult the healer of your choice for medical care and advice.

by **chiggerbit** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:15 pm

Yikes, this one by Stew Webb should be rated "xxx". Whew, not nice. <a href="http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=237&i=2547">curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=237&i=2547</a>

by **robertdreed** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:13 pm

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