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more on the Schmitzes

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:02 pm
by somebody
<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href=""></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Has this been mentioned yet? <br><br>Bush appointed Joseph Schmitz as Inspector General who is/was in charge of investigating Halliburton. This is all tooo eye opening! MK has a part to play, but the players that affect all of us, are these brothers, from a very sick family. Birds of a feather (Bush & Schmitzes) flock together.<br><br>Mr. Joseph E. Schmitz<br>Inspector General<br>Department of Defense<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> Feb. 23, 2004, 6:58PM<br>Pentagon opens criminal probe of Halliburton deal<br><br>Reuters News Service<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>WASHINGTON - The Pentagon said today it opened a criminal investigation of fraud allegations against a unit of Vice President Dick Cheney's old company Halliburton Co. involving potential overpricing of fuel delivered to Iraq.<br><br>The investigation was focused on Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root, a Pentagon spokeswoman said.<br><br>"The Defense Criminal Investigative Service, the criminal investigative arm of the Inspector General's office, is investigating allegations on the part of KBR of fraud, including the potential overpricing of fuel delivered to Baghdad by a KBR subcontractor," a Pentagon spokeswoman said.<br><br>Halliburton, an oil services company based in Houston, is the biggest contractor for the U.S. military in Iraq. It has more than $8 billion in deals covering everything from doing laundry, building bases and providing meals to helping rebuild the oil industry.<br><br>The contracts have drawn intense scrutiny from Democrats because of the firm's ties with Cheney, who ran the company from 1995 to 2000.<br><br>There was no immediate comment from Halliburton or the White House. <p></p><i></i>

Schmitz is a Washington lobbyist

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:16 pm
by somebody
Funny how this just keeps getting better.<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href=""></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>ohn P. Schmitz is a Washington lobbyist who reported $1.6 million in lobby income in 2002 from five corporate clients led by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Lockheed Martin and RxHub—an electronic prescription service formed by leading drug-benefits companies. Schmitz co-chairs the U.S. Chamber’s Federalism Initiative, which promotes legal limits on the damages that businesses must pay when they harm workers, consumers or communities. His former clients include Enron (see Ken Lay) and Bayer (see Ronald Docksai). Schmitz was a deputy counsel to George H.W. Bush when that Bush was both vice president and president. </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->He also served on the White House Task Force on Regulatory Relief. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Schmitz clerked in the early 1980s for then-U.S. Court of Appeals Judge Antonin Scalia. </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->Schmitz’s own conservative credentials pale to those amassed by his father, the late McCarthyite Congressman John G. Schmitz, whose sharp tongue got him thrown out of the John Birch Society. <p></p><i></i>

Re: Schmitz is a Washington lobbyist

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:33 pm
by albion
The LA Times seems to have taken down their recent article about Joseph E. Schmitz, but this link seems to have most or all of the original text:<br> <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href=""></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Also, some details about the role of John P. Schmitz Jr. in shielding GHWB from investigators can be found in Ch. 28 of the Walsh Iran-Contra report:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href=""></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=>albion</A> at: 12/1/05 6:34 pm<br></i>

Plenty of pedos...

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:28 pm
by banned
...tell their victims they love them, that their relationship is 'special.' Some even seem to believe it themselves. And I'm not saying that it isn't possible for someone who is NOT a pedophile to fall in love with someone very young. Pacific Islanders are often very BIG and he may have looked older than 13, and certainly some young people are mature beyond their years. But a true pedophile is sexually aroused by a child's body, prepubertal, or by a young teen (ephebophile)--and either indifferent to or actually repulsed by adult bodies. Hence the serial nature of their behavior, since all children develop adult bodies--unless they have some weird hormonal imbalance.<br><br>So for a true pedo all that 'love' and 'specialness' disappear as the child grows up and the adult then seeks out another child.<br><br>Unfortunately, there's probably no way to tell about Mary Kay, until she gets caught canoodling with another kid in his early teens. The tests they run on convicted molesters involve measuring penile erections while showing photos of young children. I suppose the same could be done measuring vaginal arousal. However, just because someone is AROUSED doesn't mean they'll offend. As I said before, some people are able to interpose their rational brain between desire and acting on that desire. <br><br>Personally, I favor life sentences for the second collar, and the death penalty if the sexual assault involved violence or threats thereof. I admit to not being objective as I was molested myself, and I really don't want to argue about it, yes I know before you execute someone you need to be sure you have the right person, obviously if there's any doubt then capital punishment is wrong. But when you have guys who have been doing this for years, like this creep out here in the Bay Area who has destroyed hundreds of lives, or some of the priests they've nailed--trust me, NO ONE WILL MISS THEM. And execution is way too quick and easy considering the lives they've deformed and destroyed. <p></p><i></i>

thanks, banned

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:54 pm
by Jen
I was kind of tired of trying to find a third way to articulate what I thought I'd posted about clearly twice before. <p></p><i></i>

Re: thanks, banned

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:31 am
by chiggerbit
Plethysmographs?<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href=""></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

Re: thanks, banned

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:57 am
by Nonny
I found an old article in People on Mary Kay Letourneau. It gives the names and ages of her 4 children -- from her first marriage. <br><br>Title: Out of control. (cover story) <br>Source: People; 03/30/98, Vol. 49 Issue 12, p44 <br><br>As a teacher, Mary Kay Letourneau was praised as someone who could see things through the eyes of a child. Now one wonders whether she can see things any other way. Letourneau, 36, the Normandy Park, Wash., mother who caused a scandal last year when she had a baby by a 13-year-old former student, is pregnant again, presumably by the same boy. It is not, in her view, an occasion of shame--or even embarrassment--though she was returned to prison five weeks ago to serve the remainder of a 7 1/2-year sentence for child rape. "She told me this baby she is carrying is the one thing that will keep her going," says her close friend Michelle Jarvis, "that if she didn't have this life inside of her she would have cracked up."<br><br>Many would say she already has. Letourneau has refused to identify the father this time, but her lawyer David Gehrke has said he assumes it is the teenager, now 14 and an eighth-grader in Seattle. (His name has not been published because of his age.) Letourneau, who is six weeks pregnant, conceived while out on parole, around the time she and the teenager were found by police at 2:40 a.m. in her parked car. Police say they had $6,200 in cash, her passport and a load of baby clothes, suggesting they were about to flee the country.<br><br>Letourneau had been forbidden to see the boy as a condition of her release, so she was sent back to prison last month. The startling news of her second pregnancy has left almost everyone involved in the case in a state of disbelief. "I'm kind of speechless," says her husband, Steve, 35, a cargo-loading specialist for Alaska Airlines who has custody of the couple's four children and is in the process of divorcing his wife. "It's like taking a picture of our family from the wall and throwing it on the ground."<br><br>A close look at the family in which Letourneau grew up may provide some clues as to how she went wrong. Her father, John Schmitz, was a philosophy instructor at Santa Ana College in California who was elected to one term in Congress. Dapper and handsome, he was renowned for his considerable personal charm. But he was even more widely known for his fierce attacks on threats to public decency wherever he found them--and he found them everywhere. His fervid conservatism won him the presidential nomination of the American Independent Party in 1972, but eventually his views grew so extreme that he was asked to leave the John Birch Society.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>At home, Schmitz was an unusually stern father to his six children, and by some accounts was particularly obsessed with the dangers of sex education. Despite her political differences with Schmitz, women's rights attorney Gloria Allred became friendly with him and his wife, Mary, though she winced at what she considered their heavy-handed treatment of their kids. "John and Mary were just so ideologically strict, so repressive," says Allred, who hasn't spoken to the family in years. "I'm sure [Mary Kay] never felt comfortable talking to them about things she might have been feeling."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Yet old friend Michelle Jarvis says Mary Kay hardly seemed oppressed, though her parents traveled often and she was cared for by her three older brothers. The family lived in Corona del Mar, says Jarvis, in "a gorgeous house that backed up against the hills. I used to swim in the pool at night and see coyotes running across the yard. On sleepovers, Mary and I would raid the refrigerator in the middle of the night." At a parochial high school that both girls attended in Anaheim, Jarvis says, Mary Kay blossomed: "Her father used to call her Cake, and that was her nickname. Mary was very popular in high school. She had lots of girlfriends and guy friends. She had lots of personality and smarts. She was very funny."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>As it turned out, her father had a secret that wasn't. In 1982 his political career ended in disgrace when it was disclosed that he had been living a double life, keeping a mistress who had once been his student and fathering two children by her. Allred suspects the scandal left the family deeply shaken, and she speculates that the aftershocks are still being felt. "I can't imagine how that must have influenced the children--the contradiction, the irony," she says. "I'm not excusing what Mary Kay did, and I'm not a psychiatrist, but I can understand how she could have crossed the line the same way her father did."<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Yet Mary Kay remained unshakably loyal to her father and, at least outwardly, seemed to put the episode behind her. While at Arizona State University, she met fellow student Steve Letourneau, and when she became pregnant they married. Many who knew her agree that, at least until recently, Letourneau was devoted to her four children--Steven, 13; Mary Claire, 10; Nicholas, 6; and Jacqueline, 4. Settling with her family in Normandy Park, a middle-class suburb of Seattle, she earned a reputation at Shorewood Elementary School as an exceptionally gifted teacher.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>One pupil with whom she formed an especially close relationship was a Samoan-American second-grader, one of four children, who showed remarkable artistic ability that Letourneau delighted in cultivating. More than that, she began to think of him as a kindred spirit. "There was a respect, an insight, a spirit, an understanding between us that grew over time," she told The Seattle Times last year. "It was the kind of feeling you have with a brother or sister--a feeling that they're part of your life forever." At that point, she maintained, there was nothing sexual about her feelings. "I didn't know what it meant," she said. "I felt that one day he might marry my daughter."<br><br>Over the next several years, Letourneau kept in close touch with the child. She bought him art supplies, took him to museums and encouraged him to develop his talent for poetry. "She showed me pictures he drew and let me read his poetry," says one of Letourneau's neighbors. "He was very artistic, very insightful. The poetry he wrote wasn't anything you'd expect from a 12-year-old."<br><br>Then, starting in the fall of 1995, when Letourneau had the boy in her sixth-grade class, she suffered a series of emotional jolts. In October she learned that her father had terminal cancer. "She was devastated, she was paralyzed," Julie Moore, a defense psychiatrist who evaluated her, later testified. "She felt like she lost the man of her life." By that time her marriage was in trouble, and to make matters worse, in January 1996, Letourneau suffered a miscarriage that left her on the brink of a breakdown.<br><br>snip--<br><br>________________________<br>Something else from <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="" target="top"></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>‘Can’t you understand that this is not a story about me,’ an unrepentant LeTourneau told George magazine. ‘It’s a story of two remarkable men.’ Those would be her thirteen-year-old student and her domineering father, both of whom LeTourneau loved beyond reason.<br> <p></p><i></i>

Plethysmograph...that's the gadget!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:04 am
by banned
Thanks, chig.<br><br>All I could think of was "peter meter" <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src= ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

Bizarro World

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:12 pm
by Col Quisp
Gloria Allred?? This thing gets weirder and weirder. This is a bump and a thanks, Chiggerbit, for this most interesting topic. <p></p><i></i>

Re: Bizarro World

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:25 pm
by chiggerbit
All credit goes to KateABlog. I hadn't been in there for awhile, and saw this when I did. How could I have missed this all this time? In doing searches, I see it has been around for a long time. <p></p><i></i>

Re: thanks, banned

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:12 pm
by chiggerbit
Hmmmmmmm....<br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The family continued to grow. Mary Kay's sister Terry was born in 1965. Her sister Elizabeth was born, then baby brother Philip. When Mary Kay was 7, she had a sexual encounter with one of her older brothers. She saw his penis, and he began fondling her. Later, Mary Kay would downplay the importance of these incidents. "I was not forced into anything," she recalled, "but when I decided it was wrong, I said no. And guess what? It stopped."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Yet old friend Michelle Jarvis says Mary Kay hardly seemed oppressed, though her parents traveled often <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>and she was cared for by her three older brothers.[</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>

Re: thanks, banned

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:00 am
by Project Willow
Wow, an amazing thread.<br><br>Banned, I do appreciate your description of how pedo's are made, through denial of their own pain and indentification with the abuser. Someone else mentioned that MKL appeared victim-like, and that is also a trait of many perps. They were victims and aparently they can draw on their pain to diffuse people's responses to their abusive behavior.<br><br>As for BPD, many dissociative folks are misdiagnosed as bipolar, especially by practitioners who are unfamiliar with D.I.D., or avoid trauma as a major etilogical factor. <br><br>I know Jeff's covered it, and there's lot out there, but does someone have time to dig further into the Mexican issue, drugs, trafficking, disappeared/murdered women, connects with Garnica family? That could be a deep hole, though tracks are probably well covered. <p></p><i></i>

Re: thanks, banned

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:48 am
by chiggerbit
More on Mary Kay's brother, Joseph:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href=""></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Another Bush Criminal Gets Another Cush Job.<br>by Gottlieb<br>Mon Sep 12, 2005 at 05:07:59 PM EST<br><br>[editor's note, by standingup] Promoted<br>Joseph E. Schmitz, son of John G. Schmitz, the fiercely conservative former congressman from Orange County, is the Inspector General at the Pentagon. He is leaving the Dept. of Defense under a dark cloud of investigation over whether or not he has blocked other investigations of senior Bush officials.<br><br>Schmitz has been hired as COO and General Counsel for the Prince Group based in Alexandria, Virginia.<br><br>The Prince Group is the parent company of Blackwater USA.<br><br><br><br>I often wonder about the Bush Administration's incompetence and corruption. How can such a dark group of people get away with so much for so long? And yes, the tide is turning, the tipping point is at hand and the people are waking up. But, hypocrites who scream about law & order, the rule of law and accountability but continue to rape and pillage the world-over to their hearts' content drives me fucking crazy. WHEN IS SOMEONE GOING TO JAIL?<br>But I digress.<br><br>Here is the summary of the article from the LA Times as reprinted in the Guerilla News.<br><br><br>Schmitz will go to work for Prince Group, the Virginia-based parent company of Blackwater USA, as chief operating officer and general counsel. Schmitz formally recused himself in June from any cases involving Blackwater, a private security company with millions of dollars in contracts in Iraq. Still, Schmitz's departure to the private sector raised concerns among government watchdog groups. "He's a person who did not put the appearance of ethics above all else," said Danielle Brian, the executive director of the Project on Government Oversight. "That is not the way the government should function. These are the kind of things that make the general public distrust government."<br>And you'll never guess who has been putting the heat on Joe Schmitz. None other than Iowa Republican Senator, Charles Grassley.<br><br><br>The resignation comes after Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) sent Schmitz several letters this summer informing him that he was the focus of a congressional inquiry into whether he had blocked two criminal investigations last year.<br>Grassley, chairman of the Finance Committee, accused Schmitz of fabricating an official Pentagon news release, planning an expensive junket to Germany and hiding information from Congress. Schmitz is the senior Pentagon official charged with investigating waste, fraud and abuse.<br><br>Of course, Schmitz denies that he is leaving the Pentagon because of any cloud over his head. He'd been planning to leave all the time. But this is what they do, don't they? They move folks around, in and out of government, like some kind of shell game. As soon as Schmitz departs, the investigation ends. It's moot. No reason for accountability; he resigned and took another job. Happens all the time.<br><br>And what is Schmitz really charged with?<br><br><br>The first of the criminal investigations in which Schmitz allegedly intervened involved John A. "Jack" Shaw, the former deputy undersecretary of Defense for international technology security.<br>Shaw, who was the subject of a series of articles in The Times last year, tried to manipulate a lucrative contract in Iraq in 2004 to favor a telecommunications company whose board included a close friend, according to whistle-blowers who worked for the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq.<br><br>Shaw had signed an unusual agreement with Schmitz that gave him some investigative authority. Shaw told U.S. officials in Iraq that he was conducting investigations under that agreement during a trip to Iraq in December 2003. The results of those investigations were later used in his effort to push for contracts of firms tied to his friends and their clients, according to the whistle-blowers.<br><br>Shaw, who was forced out of office last year after refusing to resign, has denied any wrongdoing.<br><br>It makes one wonder, if they had been successful, how much money in kickbacks Schmitz might have received. Frankly, I was all over the "It's the incompetence, Stupid!" frame for 2006. But now I'm tempted to tilt toward the "It's the corruption, Stupid!" meme.<br><br>But, golly, with Joe Schmitz, corruption is just the tip of the ice-berg. There is also something called Obstruction of Justice. You see, the Shaw corruption was being investigated by the Pentagon. Senior investigators had already found "specific and credible evidence" of Shaw's guilt. What did Schmitz do? He stopped the Pentagon investigation and handed the case over to the FBI.<br><br>What has the FBI done? Nothing. The case is low priority and stalled. Smooth move Joe. You guys are just so fucking smooth.<br><br>And then Joe, writes a press release saying that the Pentagon had never investigated Jack Shaw.<br><br><br>Schmitz then helped craft a news release in which his office denied ever investigating Shaw, according to Grassley's letter. Grassley has repeatedly asked for an explanation of the news release, most recently in a letter Aug. 8.<br>"A formal investigation was conducted. The investigation was, in fact, completed and closed and referred to the FBI. How do you square that information with the press release?" Grassley wrote to Rumsfeld on July 27. "There is a paper trail that appears to show that Mr. Schmitz was personally and directly involved in crafting the language in this press release. And second, I understand that Mr. Schmitz was repeatedly warned by his own staff `to take it down' because it was `patently false.' "<br><br>It's a good thing, Schmitz was planning to leave anyway, huh?<br><br>But wait, there is more.<br><br><br>The second investigation in which Schmitz allegedly interfered involves Mary L. Walker, the general counsel for the Air Force.<br>Grassley said in the July 7 letter that the information he had was "sketchy" but that the accusation appeared to involve Walker "lying under oath," possibly during investigations of either the Air Force Academy or Boeing Co.<br>You see, it seems that Boeing was greasing some palms during a $23,000,000,000 DoD negotiation to lease re-fueling planes. Again, according to senior investigators there was specific and credible evidence of Ms. Walker's perjury. But guess what? The investigation was closed down and referred to the FBI where it languishes in suspended animation.<br><br>Additionally, as if this isn't enough, Grassley accuses Schmitz of withholding information from Congress as regards the Boeing investigation. You see, Schmitz REDACTED THE NAMES OF TOP WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS in his Boeing report to Congress. Hmmm. What's that smell?<br><br>Anyway, another corrupt Bush Administration official plays the revolving door game of money, money, money. Another millionaire is born.<br>Relatively speaking Joe Schmitz is a minor player and the things he is accused of are little corruptions. But it speaks to a dark culture of corruption and self-aggrandizement within the Bush Administration. It is rotten to the core and needs to be dumped.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

Yes, I know about the Bipolar/DID...

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:24 am
by banned
...differential diagnosis problem. As time goes on I tend more and more to agree with my friend who said several years ago that I'm not bipolar, but dissociative, because I don't have moodswings, not even ultrarapid ones, so much as I just SWITCH in an instant from one mood to the next. Not always, of course, but it's true more often than not.<br><br>I have often wondered if I had been male rather than female how differently the aftereffects of the abuse would have played out. The libido-amping effects of testosterone make it much more difficult, I believe, for men to resist acting out their fantasies. Not that I'm excusing those who don't--'my testosterone made me do it' doesn't work as a justification. Simply that when I was getting extra testosterone not only did my sex drive get stronger but my fantasies got way kinkier. I don't think the testosterone created the kinky content, it was always there, but I didn't think about it as much or find it as exciting. And now that I'm not on testosterone I again think about it less. Unfortunately I don't think it's possible to reduce a man's testosterone level without also reducing his potency, so unlike a woman sometimes their choice is, kinky sex or no sex at all (chemical or surgical castration.) Unless of course they can work with a therapist to redirect their erotic response in a more socially approved direction, and it's difficult (even with the peter meter) to know if someone is safe to release back out into the world even if they say "Gosh, I no longer find the idea of torture-murdering male toddlers to be uber-sexy, I just want to find me a nice woman my own age and settle down." <p></p><i></i>

Philip James Schmitz (b. 1970, d. 11-Aug-1973)

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 2:04 am
by Nonny
Their seventh child, Philip, is buried at Arlington National Cemetery<br>Here is a link to a picture of the monument<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="" target="top"></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Here is the story of his death.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The Fall From Spyglass Hill</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>Los Angeles Times<br>April 29, 1998<br>Author: PAMELA WARRICK; TIMES STAFF WRITERView Desk<br>Estimated printed pages: 9<br><br>On a warm August afternoon in 1973, the summer before Mary Katherine Schmitz started sixth grade, her little brother Phillip drowned in the pool behind the family's home in Corona del Mar's exclusive Spyglass Hill.<br><br>The swimming pool, lined with turquoise tiles and architecturally sited to take full advantage of the backyard's panoramic ocean view, had just been filled. Former congressman John G. Schmitz was away on business, and his wife, Mary, busy with church work and her own campaign to defeat the Equal Rights Amendment, was counting on her eldest daughter once more to look after the child everyone in the family still called "the baby."<br><br>The baby was a fearless 3-year-old, and when he took off his life jacket and stepped into the deep end of the pool, not even the diligent Mary Katherine--playing in the shallow end with her older brother Jerry--noticed the tiny splash. Only after their mother began looking for Phillip was he found, lifeless on the bottom of the pool.<br><br>Twenty-five years later, Mary Kay Schmitz Letourneau, married with four young children, went to a Washington state prison for the rape of a 13-year-old boy. Unrepentant, Letourneau insists she fell in love with the boy when he was a student in her sixth-grade class. They have a baby girl together--her fifth child--and now Letourneau is pregnant with their second child.<br><br>snip--<br><br>In court documents and interviews at the time, it was clear that Schmitz's affair had begun in 1973, around the time his son Phillip drowned.<br><br>snip--<br><br>"John or Mary led them in prayers as always, but this time, John tried to get Mary to use her religion to understand what had happened and to forgive him," recalls one family friend. All the children were confused and angry, but none was more crushed than Mary Katherine.<br><br>A sweet-tempered, well-liked girl, she was a happy-go-lucky student and cheerleader who loved dancing and boys.<br><br>"Maybe her reputation was a little racy, but she was so gorgeous and so much fun, she was never, ever without a boyfriend," recalls one former classmate.<br><br>At home, Mary Katherine was also a favorite. Her father called her "Cake."<br><br>"She was the most beautiful of the children and by far the most devoted to John," says former Schmitz aide Smith. "She was the one who sat beaming--like Nancy Reagan gazing at Ronnie--whenever her father spoke. She'd sit for hours after school in his office watching him work, helping stuff envelopes, whatever, anything to be near him."<br><br>But when she found out her father had been having an affair with a woman who had once been a student in his government class at Rancho Santiago College, "Cake" felt as betrayed as her mother did, according to her classmate and others who knew her then.<br><br>Schmitz's wife, Mary, a gifted and articulate defender of the so-called "anti-feminist" position, had given up a promising career as a chemist--she built Miller Brewery's first test lab for Miller Lite--when she met John at a Marquette University graduation party in the 1950s.<br><br>The two had been married almost 30 years when the scandal of John's affair ended his political career, but Mary, true to the teachings of her church, decided not to let it end her marriage. Too angry and humiliated to stay in Orange County, she took the advice of her good friend, astrologer Jeane Dixon, and moved back to Washington with her three youngest children. There, she joined Dixon's real estate company and made a modest fortune selling high-priced homes in high-profile locales such as the Watergate complex.<br><br>Mary Katherine went off to finish college at Arizona State University but before graduating fell in love with a big blond football player, Steve Letourneau. When they found out she was pregnant, they married and later moved to Seattle.<br><br>snip--<br><br>John Schmitz, who until his daughter's legal troubles became public worked part time at a political memorabilia shop in Washington's Union Station, now spends most of his time in Virginia at a vineyard his other children bought him a few years ago. Through friends and family members, Schmitz declined The Times' repeated requests for interviews.<br><br>"This is a strong family, and they've been through crises before, and it has only made them stronger, but this is a real test," says friend Voit.<br><br>Although the family has committed itself to helping pay for the educations of the four Letourneau children, it had not contributed any money to her defense until a recent commitment to assist with any appeal.<br><br>snip--<br><br>Steve Letourneau, an Alaska Airlines supervisor who is reportedly writing a book about his relationship with Mary Kay, has not commented publicly on the charges. A few months after he discovered love letters from his wife to her former student--but while she was still living at home with him and their children, ages 4 to 13--he met an Alaska Airlines flight attendant while vacationing in Puerto Vallarta and in August moved her into the home he now shares with his children in Anchorage.<br><br>Two of her three older brothers, along with her two younger sisters, took Mary Kay's four Letourneau children into their homes for last summer.<br><br>John Patrick Schmitz, a much-admired White House counsel during the Bush administration, now has a successful law practice in Washington and Berlin. Joseph Schmitz, who attended the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, recently left the service to join another high-profile law firm in the nation's capital.<br><br>Jerry, who is two years older than Mary Kay, is an engineer who works in Arizona and Nevada. When he was 23 and working as a staff member of the San Francisco Scientology mission, his parents threatened to sue the Church of Scientology for alienating him from his family and the Catholic Church.<br><br>Her younger sisters Theresa and Elizabeth are both homemakers who live in the Washington, D.C., area.<br><br>None of her siblings have commented publicly on their sister's legal troubles.<br><br>In Mary Kay's parents' Washington home, a big red brick house behind the Supreme Court building on Capitol Hill--the house once owned by John Schmitz's idol Joe McCarthy--the extended Schmitz family gathers now as they did years ago on Spyglass Hill to face head-on the latest crisis.<br><br>But this time, it is not their father, but the daughter who so adored him who needs their help and support.<br><br>"This is a family that does not run away from its problems, that does not look for excuses but that does what has to be done for whomever needs their help," says Michael Horowitz, a former Reagan administration counsel and close friend of John Patrick Schmitz.<br><br>For the time being, the family, which is bringing in a new attorney to prepare an appeal for Mary Kay, isn't eager to rush in to save the day. Nor is her father rushing to her rescue. Although he is well enough to travel to Wisconsin for family celebrations, he apparently has made no trips to Seattle to see his eldest daughter.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>