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Schmitz and Jack Shaw

Postby cd » Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:47 am

The story about how Schmitz gave authority to Jack Shaw to go to Iraq and scope out what was happening in the business of setting up communications systems (cell phone transmission towers?) deserves greater scrutiny. I don't know about the timing, but I recall that the unfortunate Nick Berg was independently in Iraq to see if he could get work constructing transmission towers. He was held by the American military until his family got the Embassy to get him released, and then before he could leave the country he was picked up by unknown kidnappers and beheaded. Could he have been "on to" something it was too dangerous to know? I tend to believe it was civilian contractors who picked him up, not Iraqi insurgents. <br><br>Anyway, Jack SHaw was also in the news just prior to his sacking when he said that the explosives missing from Al Qaqaa (remember that munitions site?) had been spirited away to Russia! The comment was totally out of the blue, and must have been an embarassment to the Dept. of Defense. It was shortly after that that Rumsfeld (?) had him canned. And then, later, went Schmitz. There is so much more to the story of these guys! Does anyone have anyhting else to piece together on this? <p></p><i></i>
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A Schmitz and Iraq

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:49 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.motherjones.com/news/blog/2004/07/MB_2004_29.html">www.motherjones.com/news/...04_29.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Who's watching the watchers? <br><br><br>The Center for American Progress has recently uncovered an extremely disturbing phenomenon: Many of the "independent watchdogs" in charge of overseeing Iraq expenditures are anything but. Key overseers are outright industry shills, and they've turned a blind eye to some of the most egregious reconstruction contract issues in Iraq. To cite just one example:<br><br><br>Andrew Natsios heads the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), where he oversees the bidding process for reconstruction contracts in Iraq. Under his leadership, the Bechtel Corporation received highly lucrative Iraq contracts, totaling at least $2.83 billion since last April. They received this largesse even though Nastios had intimate knowledge of the company's poor project management record: Prior to joining the Bush administration on May 21, 2001, Natsios was chief executive of the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority and oversaw the scandalously bloated Big Dig project -- whose chief contractor was none other than Bechtel. <br><br><br>Under Bechtel, the cost of the Big Dig project ballooned to more than five times its original total, from $2.6 billion to a whopping $14.6 billion. According to State Senator Robert Havern, chairman of the Massachusetts Joint Transportation Committee looking into the scandalous project, "it was when Natsios was Turnpike chief that the biggest rise in costs, from $10.8 billion to $14.7 billion, took place." <br><br><br>Lawmakers have submitted formal requests to Natsios, demanding that he release information about all the contracts his agency has awarded. But according to Rep. Henry Waxman, six months after the invasion not one contract had been released by Natsios for congressional review. <br><br>Read the whole report. Unfortunately, this is just one instance of a larger trend. Over the past three years, "oversight agency" has become a synonym for "corporate lobbyist." A former tobacco lawyer, Daniel Troy, now gives legal advice to the FDA, using his newfound position to pass out favors to drug companies. Former industry lobbyists are now encouraged to oversee environmental regulation. And so on.<br><br>The whole mess has been partly enabled by Republican one-party rule. With regards to Iraq oversight, the GOP has, time and time again, nixed Congressional investigations into the matter.<br><br>But it also seems like a serious structural problem when government watchdogs are allowed to oversee industries they used to represent. It's high time to update the outdated government ethics standards that deal with conflicts of interest. So far as I can tell, there are sections on direct "financial" conflicts of interest, but nothing that would regulate, say, former lobbyists from taking up critical overseer positions. That needs to be fixed -- the present system is clearly failing. <br><br>- Bradford Plumer <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Arrrgh, disregard

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:57 pm

...the above post. I copied the wrong one, and I didn't re-register (re-registering all the time is a pain, btw), so I can't edit it. Here is the post I intended.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.motherjones.com/news/blog/2004/07/MB_2004_29.html">www.motherjones.com/news/...04_29.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>July 15, 2004 <br><br>5:30 PM <br>Who's watching the watchers? (pt. 2) <br><br><br>One of the "dirty" Pentagon inspectors mentioned earlier was Gen. Joseph Schmitz. Schmitz is the Defense Department Inspector General best known for defending Halliburton's excesses, stonewalling Congressional investigations, and declaring that Abu Ghraib was merely the work of a few "bad eggs". But what you probably didn't know was that Schmitz played a key role in setting up and advising the 29 Iraqi Inspectors General (IGs).<br><br>Who -- for that matter, what -- are the Iraqi IGs? They were installed by CPA Administrator Paul Bremer in February of 2004 under Order 57. They're supposed to "provide increased accountability, integrity and oversight of the [Iraqi] ministries." Most critically, they are to investigate "abuse of authority." In a country with a prime minister who has given himself "emergency powers," we would hope that these IGs are all honest and conscientious people. But are we really going to take Schmitz' word for it?<br><br>Apart from the IG of Baghdad, Tomma Jaberlog al-Akielie -- who appears by all accounts to be a career technocrat -- no one knows who the Iraqi IGs are. A few months ago, Schmitz himself announced that some of them were "expatriates." Expatriates? What kind? What if the watchdogs supposed to oversee the government all hail from, say, Iyad Allawi's own exile group, Iraqi National Accord, that would make for a pretty big conflict of interest, don't you think? How worried should we be? Without knowing more about the IGs, it's hard to tell.<br><br>I can understand if the IGs are staying anonymous for safety reasons. But consider: we've got a strong-arming prime minister whose democratic credentials, as journalist Eli Lake recently noted, are questionable; and the guy training Iraq's independent inspectors isn't exactly known for his own commitment to honest oversight. At the very least, it's worth finding out who's watching the watchers.<br><br>- Bradford Plumer <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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John G. Schmitz, 1972

Postby albion » Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:22 pm

More history/background. This is a 1972 article about some of the uber-paranoid associates of the Schmitz family patriarch and factionalism among the far right during Schmitz's abbreviated presidential campaign in the "Watergate summer" of '72. According to Dave Emory, this was written by one Walter A. Carrithers, Jr., in '72. The only thing I know about Carrithers is that he was evidently a Blavatskyan Theosophist (some of his Theosophical writings are <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.blavatskyfoundation.org/carrwrit.htm">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->, and <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://216.239.53.104/search?q=cache:572B0zWtoXoJ:www.hctheosophist.com/archives/pdf/hc199501.pdf++%22death+of+an+american+theosophical+historian%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8#16">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> is his obituary). The link below goes to a 51-page PDF. Here's a few snippets: <br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>ASSASSINATION AND THE STRANGE FRIENDS OF JOHN G. SCHMITZ</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.blavatskyfoundation.org/assasination.pdf">(link)</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>When asked by A.B.C. reporter Virginia Sherwood on “Issues and Answers,” October 1, 1972, “Representative Schmitz, you sought and accepted the presidential nomination of the American Party. Now, what makes you think you are qualified to be President of the United States?”, John G. Schmitz replied: “Well, I certainly think I am more qualified than Richard Nixon or George McGovern in view of the fact of their basic policies. Let’s face it: the American people have a choice between Richard Nixon who’s endorsed by Peking or Moscow; or, George McGovern who’s endorsed by Hanoi or the Manson family.” <br><br>[...] Who then is John G. Schmitz endorsed by? Who are his notable supporters? Who indeed are the friends behind him and his party, the friends most helpful in his run for the White House? They will not be seen or heard campaigning for him on national TV or radio. Their names are obscure or unknown to the general public. The leading news media have failed to disclose their identities. But a browse through any local “Schmitz-for-President” headquarters will reveal who is behind him, who his principal backers and associates are. There the tables and racks are loaded with pro-Schmitz literature, for the most part propaganda bearing the imprint of one or more of three sources:<br><br>Educator Publications (1110 South Pomona Avenue, Fullerton, California)<br>Liberty Lobby (100 Independence Avenue, S.E., Washington, D.C.)<br>The John Birch Society (395 Concord Avenue, Belmont, Massachusetts).<br><br>[info about Robert Welch, Willis Carto, Francis Parker Yockey, etc.] <br><br>[...]<br><br>One man in America whose hatred of Jews is frank, blatant and universally known is Gerald L.K. Smith, who rightly may be called the Dean of American Anti-Semites. [...] With the notorious race-baiters Father Charles E. Coughlin and the Rev. Gerald Winrod, Smith formed a triumvirate whose pre-World War II agitation could best be put in the cry, “hands off Hitler!”<br><br>[...] Smith rails against all and sundry whom he imagines to be “Corrupted by Jewish money and flattered by Jewish-controlled newspapers...” (Ib., pp. 73-4)<br><br>This failure to dissemble has earned Gerald L.K. Smith something of public pariah status with his fellow Jew-haters in the Radical Right, whenever they beat their drums for public respect and attention. Mr Smith resents this, and rightly so. Of this double-standard among his friends, he has written: “Numerous right wing, patriotic organizations have been told that they will receive financial support if they will vow that they have no connection with Gerald L.K. Smith because they cannot stand the pressure and the persecution of the Jews.” He then goes on to blow the whistle on his fair-weather friends.<br><br>[...] In the September 1972 number of his magazine, Smith presented in black border and bold type a “WARNING!” It was this: “I do not believe in the integrity, the authority or the documentation of a book which is called NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY, being recommended by certain so-called right wing groups.<br><br>“The man in charge of its distribution is a Jew and when I ordered a few extra copies, the Jew wrote me and said he refused to take the money of the Christian Nationalist Crusade or to permit us, with is consent, to circulate the book.<br><br>“Something is ‘rotten’ and it is not in Denmark.<br><br>“I am not sure but what the book itself is the real conspiracy... “I can think of no piece of literature that will hasten the election of McGovern than this book. What could be more lunatic than to suggest that Communism originated with the American businessman?” (Ib., Sept., 1972, p. 18 ).<br><br>In the magazine’s next issue, Smith does not hesitate to give us some candid insight into the inner-workings of the new American Party. “I sent individuals personally loyal to me to attend the National Convention of the American Party...,” he writes. “When I received their reports I realized that something was missing and something tragic was taking place. An emissary of mine revealed that he was not going to campaign for this Party arid this ticket either directly or indirectly--for many reasons that need not be summarized here. “I also received the shocking news that a Jew by the name of Larry Abraham was in command of the situation and was going in and out of the private offices of the executives as though they had no doors on their headquarters. <br><br>[...] Gerald L.K. Smith goes on to say he also “was shocked” when he “saw that Congressman Schmitz had written the introduction for this book...”; and, “In fact an inside informer tells me that the book was prepared under instructions from its sponsors not to permit one sentence to go into it that would reflect on the Jew.” (Ib., Oct)., 1972, p. 6).<br><br>One need not suppose that if Larry Abraham is indeed a Jew, that he therefore is an agent of the House of Rothschild nor even a “spy” for the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (two pet bugaboos of the Radical Right). Whether Smith knows it or not, Mr Larry Abraham, as a matter of factual record, is a paid agent of the John Birch Society, one of Robert Welch’s prize lackeys.<br><br>[...] During his appearance on the C.B.S. Sunday program, “Face the Nation,” Candidate Schmitz was pressed to explain to what he refers in his occasional references to “the Conspiracy.” Protesting that he could not do this adequately “in the six minutes remaining,” Schmitz recommended to his interrogators and to the audience a book with the title, None Dare Call it Conspiracy. This book may be found in quantity in American Party centers across the country. In its “Introduction,” Schmitz himself promises, first line up: “The story you are about to read is true.” And, in closing, he warns that we can only “pooh-pooh the information herein at our own peril.” Do not, he cautions, “accept the opinions of those who of necessity must attempt to discredit the book. Your future may depend upon it.” .<br><br>But can anything or anyone really depend upon this book? Its author says, “The one thing<br>these conspirators cannot survive is exposure”.Can this book?<br><br>[...] In pretending to unveil the “Great Conspiracy” that disturbs Candidate Schmitz---or with which he would disturb the American electorate---, Gary Allen in this 141-page book pictures a horrible menace. “Communism,” he says, “is not run from Moscow or Peking, but is an arm of a bigger conspiracy run from New York, London and Paris. The men at the apex of this movement are not Communists...” Instead, the author claims that “‘Communism’ is not a movement of the downtrodden masses but is a movement created, manipulated and used by power-seeking billionaires in order to gain control over the world...” (Ib., p. 35). The goals and methods of these purported “conspirators” are said to derive from one “Adam Weishaupt, the founder of the Order of Illuminati in Bavaria” (Ib., p. 26). <br><br>[...] This “billionaire” network of “conspirators” is industriously pursuing the work of their father Adam Weishaupt. The “network” is, Allen claims “the Federal Reserve-CFR-Rockefeller-Insider crowd” which he adds, operates “the Soviet Union” as “their satellite”! (None Dare Call It Conspiracy, p. 102). World War I was part of their game: “The conspiracy had been planning the war for over two decades.” (Ib., p. 62). While “So-called ‘Prussian militarism’ did exist,” says Allen, “it was no threat to conquer the world.” (Ib., p. 63).<br><br>[...] At this point we must interject the observation that if Gerald L.K. Smith’s spy-network set him right on what was to be left out of this book, it has been badly edited. When it comes time to open the curtain and unveil the alleged master-minds behind” the Great Conspiracy,” the author---like Robert Welch, so often---wants us to clearly understand he is not in the least anti-Semitic: “One major reason for the historical blackout on the role of the international bankers in political history is that the Rothschilds were [are?] Jewish. Anti-Semites have played into the hands of the conspiracy by trying to portray the entire conspiracy as Jewish. Nothing could be farther from the truth. The traditionally Anglo-Saxon J. P. Morgan and Rockefeller international banking institutions have played a key role in the conspiracy. But there is no denying the importance of the Rothschilds and their satellites... <br><br>[...] But who are their satellites? If Gary Allen and his mentors wish to escape the, charge of Jew-baiting they will have to do better than being careful not “to portray the entire conpiracy as Jewish.” Even if they were to affirm that all Jews---or even Jewish leaders---comprise only a small and insignificant part of the alleged conspiracy (limited claims which Welch and Co. does not make), no more in proportion than the wealth of the House of Rothschild is today, outranked as it is by the greater assets of the “Anglo-Saxon J. P. Morgan and Rockefeller international banking instiutions,” the charge would have to stick. Especially so, if the Jewish Rothschilds were to be pictured as the “preeminent” manipulators “at the apex” and the Morgans and Rockefellers portrayed as “their satellites.” And this exactly is what the propaganda of Gary Allen and Robert Welch leads its uninformed readers to believe!<br><br>[...] Governor Rockefeller, according to the Allen-Welch dogma, is no more his own man than is his “boy,” Richard Nixon, nor old J.P. Morgan. For, like the latter---and Lenin and Stalin too, if not all us in the world today---, to Allen’s readers the Rockefellers too (since founder John D. Rockefeller himself) are unmasked as nothing but pawns and satellites of Jewish bankers!<br><br>[...] Gerald L. K.Smith must be right: “I am not sure but what the book itself is the real conspiracy”---a conspiracy to drive the American people into a frenzy of hate-hysteria that then will “throw the Insiders out” and put in power the puppets of the Steinbacher-Carto-Welch combine! It is certain these deceits will not fool the careful, skeptical reader nor escape the scrutiny of honest historians. But how many skeptical readers and honest historians will be left alive to discover, protest and expose if Steinbacher, Carto, Welch and Co. are first set in power by 30 million readers, voters hoodwinked and infected by this false and venomous propaganda?<br><br>[...] To document our assertion that the chief backers of John G. Schmitz and the American Party can best be described as hate-peddlers for fun-and-profit, consider the following remarks from each in turn (statements selected from many available either in their own writings or in writings they uphold, promote and propagate), unmasking:<br><br> 1. Their adoration of totalitarian despots as exemplary national leaders.<br> 2. Their propagation of naked anti-Semitism.<br> 3. Their attacks upon Freemasonry (in which, as in Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf, Masonry is pictured as the Trojan Horse of Jew-Conspirators, its greatest “crime” being religious tolerance).<br> 4. Their anti-Americanism, reviling the Founding Fathers or the Founding of the Republic in 1776.<br><br>[...]<br><br>In a “Washington, September 14” dateline, the JBS Review of the News (September 27, 1972, pp. 7-8 ) reported: “American Party presidential candidate Representative John G. Schmitz (Calif.), charging that there has been a ‘conspiracy of silence’ about the Communist connections of Arthur Bremer, the man convicted of the attempted assassination of Governor George C. Wallace, vows to ‘see that the full facts about George Wallace’s would-be assassin are brought to light.’ To this end, Schmitz tells newsmen, ‘I have formally requested that the minority investigative staff of the House Internal Security Committee, on which I serve, launch an immediate preliminary investigation of the allegation of the Communist and revolutionary associations and activities of Arthur Bremer.’ <br><br>[...] In calling for an investigation of “the allegation of the Communist and revolutionary associations and activities of Arthur Bremer,” American Party candidate John G. Schmitz ought also to be equally concerned about contacts (contacts seen in its own evidence) dating back to November 1969 between Arthur Bremer and at least one undercover triple-agent with connections to some of John G. Schmitz’s strange friends. He especially ought to do this lest the rumor get abroad that his own alma mater, Marquette University, has long-harbored a phony "S.D.S. chapter” (something on the order of the “Los Feliz Peace and Freedom Club”), staffed and managed by secret spies and provocateurs of the Radical Right, deceivers pledged to the Liberty Lobby cause of “conducting intelligence within leftist groups..." (The How, p. 29.)<br><br>It all sounds so much like a play-back of the Westerfield-Steinbacher game, starring Major Jose Duarte and Sirhan B. Sirhan. At the same time, we suggest, this investigation would best serve the public interest if it opened its hearings to the public and enlarged the scope of its inquiry to include examination of the past activities of Rex Westerfield, John Steinbacher, Major Jose Duarte and American United and its various and unknown “Free Rightists” as these and their associates (known and unknown) became involved in circumstances surrounding the death of Senator Robert F. Kennedy. Nor are all the suspicious tracks left behind in the Martin Luther King and John F. Kennedy murders yet altogether cold. With each future assassination (and there will be many, if we read Francis Parker Yockey aright), we look forward to being furnished new and warmer leads pointing to the perpetrators of past atrocities.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://reactor-core.org/pics/nonedare-199ae4c4.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: John G. Schmitz, 1972

Postby Qutb » Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:46 pm

Albion, thanks for that. I knew John G. Schmitz wrote the foreword to None Dare Call It Conspiracy, but there was some additional interesting information there.<br><br>That book, in effect John Birch society propaganda, I think is the origin of much of the far-right and conspiracy mythology that keeps proliferating on the net. In particular the idea that New York and London bankers created Communism.<br><br>That whole <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>milieu</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> were early pushers of ideas, originally borrowed from European fascists, that have later been adopted by David Icke, Henry Makow and other modern-day conspiracists. The obsession with the Rothschilds, the equation of Freemasonry with Zionism etc. <p></p><i></i>
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Jeff, Can You Make Sure This is Archived in Data Dump?

Postby jennifer » Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:13 am

This thread has been a very, very interesting one, and with all the hard work/research that all the posters have done, I think it important it be "preserved" for posterity.<br><br>I hope that you'll see that it is saved in the Data Dump before the pages ages back to the "point of no return" limitations of the board. <br><br>I see at this posting is has fallen back to page 3 already.<br><br>It always amazes me how the Bush family connections keep reappearing in the most unusual places..... all connected, like a big 'ol spiderweb... <br><br>I see Neil is back in the News on his "Peace Tour" with the moonies. I wonder what Marvin has been up to?<br><br>Thanks to all for your hard work and a very interesting set of posts.<br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Jeff, Can You Make Sure This is Archived in Data Dump?

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:06 am

Good idea. I'll do that when the conversation's run it's course. I'm planning to single it out in the next blog post, too. <p></p><i></i>
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what Jeanne Dixon 'saw'

Postby rain » Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:18 am

"At she gazed outside she saw, nt the bare-limbed trees and city street below, but a bright blue sky above a barren desert. Just above the horizon was the brightest sun that she had ever seen, glowing like a golden ball. Splashing from the orb in every direction were brilliant rays which seemed to be drawing the earth toward it like a magnet. Stepping out of the brightness of the sun's rays, hand in hand, were a Pharaoh and Queen Nefertiti. Cradled n the Queen's other arm was a baby, his ragged, soled clothing in startling contrast to the gorgeously arrayed royal couple. "The eyes of this child were all-knowing," Jeane say softly. "They were full of wisdom and knowledge." <br><br>A little to one side of Queen Nefertiti, Jeane could glimpse a pyramid. While she watched entranced, the couple advanced toward her and thrust forth the baby, as if offering it to the entire world. Within the ball of the sun, Jeane saw Joseph guiding the tableau like a puppeteer pulling strings. Now rays of light burst forth from the baby, blending with those of the sun and obliterating the Pharaoh from her sight. Off to the left, she observed that Queen Nefertiti was walking away, "thousands of miles into the past." The Queen paused beside a large brown water jug, and as she stooped and cupped her hands to drink she was stabbed in the back by a dagger. Jeane says that she "distinctly heard her death scream as she vanished." <br><br>Jeane shifted her gaze back to the baby. He had by now grown to manhood, and a small cross which formed above him began to expand until it "dripped over the earth in all directions. Simultaneously, peoples of every race, religion, and color (black, yellow, red, brown and white), each kneeling and lifting his arms in worshipful adoration, surrounded him. They were all as one," Unlike previous visions, which had gradually faded away from Jeane, this one moved ever nearer until she seemed to be in the very midst of the action, joining int he adoring worship. "I felt a tiny seed ready to sprout and grow," she says, "But I was only one of millions of similar seeds. I knew within my heart. "here is the beginning of wisdom" The room was becoming dark again, and though she was still caught up in the spell of the vision, Jeane glanced automatically at her bedside clock. The time was 7:17 a.m. "<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.greatdreams.com/dixon.htm">www.greatdreams.com/dixon.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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IG to IG

Postby rain » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:25 am

meet the 'new plan'. kind'a like the 'old plan'<br><br>Meanwhile Schacht announced that he had a plan to solve "Germany's economic problems." Thyssen had already produced his plan for a German corporate state in his true-confessions book. And surely the Geheimrat Hermann Schmitz, with the help of nephew Max Ilgner and of Georg von Schnitzler, could supply a plan—if not convicted.<br> Schacht-Thyssen-Schmitz—what a team that would be to rebuild German's peace time economy, and direct it jointly with a select group of Anglo-American industrialists, financed with American taxpayer's funds!<br> The foregoing constitutes a small part of the record, and of the proofs available that the conspiracy to save the Farben war criminals from punishment, to revive the Farben structure, and to renew the Farben carry-over tie-ups, here and elsewhere, is proceeding on schedule.<br> Just as Max Ilgner told his criminal associates in 1944 that it would be, this plot is proceeding in the pattern of another false peacetime tragedy which, in reality, is another intermission for rebuilding of a superstate and another era of secret preparation for World War III.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.maebrussell.com/Articles%20and%20Notes/Treason's%20Peace%20excerpt.html">www.maebrussell.com/Artic...cerpt.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>not your cup of tea?<br><br>"a dictatorship of monopoly capitalism. Its 'fascism' is that of business enterprise organized on a monopoly basis, and in full command of all the military, police, legal and propaganda power of the state." (12<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>"Hitler was pushed to the top, without support of a majority of the people, by a coalition of the heavy industry leaders and Junker militarists." <br><br>Carl Duisberg "great apostle of cartels in the chemical field" (26). leader of the IG in 1906<br><br>Hermann Schmitz was one of his chief aides. Schmitz succeeded Carl Bosch as president of IG and was still the #1 man at end of WWII.<br><br>More than any other corporation IG sat at the center of a web of international cartel agreements." (15)<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.hyperarts.com/pynchon/gravity/extra/farben.html">www.hyperarts.com/pynchon...arben.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>maybe Columban cola ?<br><br>"Jane and John Doe from Help-A-Student International"<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.madcowprod.com/issue42.html">www.madcowprod.com/issue42.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: IG to IG

Postby Qutb » Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:03 am

Definitely my cup of tea. Carl Duisberg was the inventor of chemical warfare (it was his idea to use phosgen, a bi-product from Bayer's chemicals production, as a weapon in WWI). Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft sponsored Mohammed Atta's studies in Germany, paid for his trips to Syria and elsewhere, and employed him as a tutor. <br><br>I don't think Hermann Schmitz is related to the Schmitzes we're talking about though. Does anybody know anything about the history of the family, further back than John G. Schmitz?<br><br>The Schmitzes, in addition to being of German extraction, do have ties to Germany. John P. is on the board of the American Council on Germany, which rehabilitated 3rd Reich alumni after the war. He worked at Bosch GmbH in Germany through the Bosch Foundation Fellowship internship <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.cdsintl.org/fromusa/bosch.htm" target="top">program</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> (a Carl Duisberg Society program). Joseph E. served as navigator on a German destroyer. Both speak fluent German. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: IG to IG

Postby AlicetheCurious » Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:43 am

Hey, Qutb, that's weird...I was just going to mention that Mohammed Atta was 'recruited' from Egypt by a German organisation, almost positively the Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft. <br><br>Interestingly, Atta's dramatic transformation from nondescript, shy, mediocre student to fiery religious fanatic coincides almost exactly with his employment by the CDG, which had previously paid for his travels in the Middle East.<br><br>This thread is only the second time I've heard of the organisation; the first was in Daniel Hopsicker's article:<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>MOHAMED ATTA WORKED FOR ELITE U.S.—GERMAN GOVERNMENT EXCHANGE PROGRAM</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>world exclusive<br>by Daniel Hopsicker<br>copyright 2003 MadCowMorningNews<br>may not be printed without permission<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.madcowprod.com/index47a.html">www.madcowprod.com/index47a.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>VENICE, FL—April 24<br><br>For at least four years while living in Hamburg during the 1990’s terrorist ringleader Mohamed Atta was part of a 'joint venture' between the U.S. and German Governments, the MadCowMorningNews has learned, an elite international “exchange” program run by a little-known private organization with close ties to powerful American political figures like David Rockefeller and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.<br><br>The jointly-funded government effort picked up the tab for Atta on sojourns in Cairo, Istanbul, and Aleppo in Syria during the years 1994 and 1995, as well as employing him as a “tutor” and “seminar participant” during 1996 and 1997.<br><br>Moreover Atta’s financial relationship with the U.S.—German government effort may even extend back to his initial move from Egypt to Germany in 1992, after being “recruited” in Cairo by a mysterious German couple dubbed the “hijacker’s sponsors” in a recent news account in the Chicago Tribune.<br><br>Mohamed Atta, before becoming a ‘terrorist ringleader,’ enjoyed the patronage of a government initiative, known as the “Congress-Bundestag Program," overseen by the U.S. State Department and the German Ministry of Economic Cooperation and Development, the German equivalent of the U.S. Agency for International Development busy currently supervising the secretive bidding race for tens of billions of dollars of post-war reconstruction contracts in Iraq.<br> <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>All the news that fits...under the rug</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>News that Mohamed Atta had been on the payroll of the elite international program surfaced in a curious way just a month after the 9/11 attack: a brief seven-line report by German newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung on Oct. 18, 2001, under the headline “ATTA WAS TUTOR FOR SCHOLARSHIP HOLDERS.”<br><br>The story quoted spokesmen for “Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft,” described as a “German international further education organisation,” as having admitted paying Hamburg cadre principal Atta as a “scholarship holder” and “tutor,” between 1995 and 1997.<br><br>But what makes the story curious is that the German paper concealed the shocking implications of their story, that Mohamed Atta had been on the payroll of a joint U.S.—German government program, through the simple expedient of neglecting to mention that the “Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft” was merely a private entity set up to administer the "exchange" initiative of the two governments.<br><br>The U.S. end of the program is run out of an address at United Nations Plaza in New York by CDS International. The letters stand for Carl Duisberg Society, also the name of its German counterpart in Cologne, the Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft. Both are named for Carl Duisberg, a German chemist and industrialist who headed the Bayer Corporation during the 1920’s.<br><br>The list of elite power brokers backing CDS International ranges from the aforementioned Kissinger and Rockefeller to former President Bill Clinton and other Democratic heavyweights like former First Lady Hillary Clinton and Clinton White House adviser Ira Magaziner.<br> <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>One reason Kissinger bowed out</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Kissinger, to cite just one example, had at one time addressed over 100 international business leaders at an anniversary dinner organized and celebrating CDS International held at the River Club of New York June 2, 1987.<br><br>Kissinger congratulated CDS International on its 20 years of service in keeping close business ties, not only between Germany and the United States, but more recently through career development programs for participants from other countries as well.<br><br>Five years later, Mohamed Atta became one of these participants from "other" countries.<br><br>Then-President Bill Clinton also found a lot to like about CDS International. During his visit to Germany to commemorate the Berlin Airlift he noted that the United States "will be working hard to expand our support" for the "Congress-Bundestag" exchange which "has already given more than 10,000 German and American students the chance to visit each other's countries."<br><br>Were he to give the same speech today, he would no doubt change the wording to read "the chance to visit and vaporize" each other's countries.<br><br>CDS International, states the organizations literature, provides opportunities for young German engineers. Mohamed Atta wasn't, strictly speaking, a "young German engineer," but apparently Kissinger's praise for "career development programs for participants from other countries as well" had been taken to heart by the friendly folks at the Carl Duisberg Society.<br><br>"These young German engineers earn real world experience and are given assignments to contribute from the start,” a program spokesman enthused in a newspaper interview.<br><br>The organization is today understandably shy about mentioning that their most famous recent graduate's “real world experience” included murdering almost 3000 people in New York City in slightly less than two hours.<br><br>A financial relationship between the terrorist ringleader and the U.S. and German Governments has not previously even been hinted at in America's major media. The conspiracy-minded might conclude that the fact that the scoop is going to the MadCowMorningNews may owe something to the program’s raft of politically-powerful boosters.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Big Juice in High Places</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Having big juice in high places may also explain more equally-curious omissions in a second story about Mohamed Atta’s time in Germany, which appeared recently in the March 7,2003 Chicago Tribune, under the headline “9/11 haunts hijacker's sponsors; German couple talks of living with pilot Atta.”<br><br>The article describes the 1992 meeting in Cairo between Atta and a German couple running an "international student exchange program," a meeting which the Tribune says led Atta to move to Hamburg.<br><br>During a visit to the Egyptian capital in fall 1991, the Tribune reported, the German couple had stayed with friends who knew Atta's father, a Cairo lawyer, and his father's friends had then introduced the German couple to Atta.<br><br>“Atta, who had recently graduated with a degree in architectural engineering from the University of Cairo, told the couple he wanted to study architecture in Germany, but he had no particular idea where he should go,” the paper reported.<br><br>Though the article neglects to mention it, the reason Atta found himself with “no particular idea where he should go” was because although he had studied engineering at prestigious Cairo University, he had not fared well enough to gain admission to its graduate school.<br><br>The paper quotes the German wife telling investigators: "In this first conversation, we suggested he continue his studies in Hamburg and offered him a place to live at our house."<br><br>Atta, she states, accepted their offer right away.<br><br>This magnanimous gesture by the German couple to an undistinguished young man they have just met raises serious questions. Perhaps their gesture is just the very milk of human kindness; perhaps it is something else.<br><br>Why did this German couple running an international exchange program leap at the opportunity to help a young man not considered promising enough to gain entrance to graduate school in Cairo, and offer him a place to live at their house?<br><br>The Tribune doesn’t say.<br><br>And they have made it difficult for anyone lese to follow up on their story, because they neglected to identify either the couple or the "international" program they ran by name.<br><br>But although Tribune correspondent Stevenson Swanson cites the German couple for “having played such an important role in Atta's move to Germany,” he never gives either their names nor that of the organization they worked for.<br><br>This is some curious, if you know what we mean. After all, the story is 1200 words in length. So its not as if they didn't have room to print the names, is it?<br><br>"Jane and John Doe from Help-A-Student International" would have been enough.<br><br>You know: Who What When Where and Why.<br><br>So, either the Tribune just forgot the 'Who,' or something even weirder happened.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Was "Shock & Awe' campaign used first September 11, 2001?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>After studying German in Cairo, Atta arrived in Germany on July 24, 1992, according to investigators' records, and then lived rent-free for at least the next six months in the couple's home in a quiet, middle-class neighborhood.<br><br>And since just two years later Atta was on the payroll of the “Congress-Bundestag Program” it is reasonable to conclude--and no thanks to the Chicago Tribune--that it was also the "exchange program" responsible for bringing him to Germany in the first place..<br><br>CDS International's elite sponsors are apparently influential enough to have kept their organization’s name out of the newspapers.<br><br>Or at any rate out of the Chicago Tribune.<br><br>When Atta returned home several years later for a three-month visit to Cairo, in 1995, the Egyptian government was in the midst of cracking down viciously on Islamic fundamentalists.<br><br>Yet, strangely, Atta chose this exact time to grow a beard, traditionally a sign of a devout Muslim, but also in Atta's case assumed to have been a defiant political gesture chosen to register his disgust at the secular elite that ruled his homeland.<br><br>Or, at least, that's the way they tell the story.<br><br>And indeed, his two German traveling “companions” report that Atta said he would not be cowed by his home country's "fat cats," who he believed were criminalizing religious traditionalists while bowing shamefully to the West in foreign and economic policies.<br><br>At least that's what they say he said.<br><br>But maybe growing a beard and assuming an "Islamic fundamentalist" pose had instead merely been the act of a man “singing for his supper” by going undercover on behalf of “fat cats” from another part of the forest entirely...<br><br>Naw.<br><br>It couldn't be.<br><br>Could it?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: amazing stuff

Postby chiggerbit » Mon Dec 26, 2005 3:22 am

Check out this site-scroll down to John Schmitz, about page 12. And they say it's not who you know. I'm fantasizing about these kids at this prep school being switched with the kids at the creepy Christian rehab center in Missouri, having to stand in vats of cow shit for "not paying attention", as a form of discipline.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.gprep.org/communications/Alumnews/AlumnewsSpring2005.pdf">www.gprep.org/communicati...ng2005.pdf</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 12/26/05 12:30 am<br></i>
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Re: amazing stuff

Postby chiggerbit » Mon Dec 26, 2005 2:53 pm

More on Jeb's wife Columba and her sister who is married to John Schmitz. This one little sentence jumps out at me, would seem to indicate that Jeb and John had school connections way back then, at Phillips Andover (which is different than Georgetown Prep School which featured John Schmitz lately in their web brochure):<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Columba was a Beatles-loving teenager with a rebellious streak when she met her future husband <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>through John Schmitz</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, Jeb's fellow student at Phillips Andover Academy who was also studying in Mexico.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Found article in cache of <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.broward.com/mld/miamiherald/living/health/4421420.htm:">www.broward.com/mld/miami...21420.htm:</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>clips<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:_O2CpBxxozQJ:www.broward.com/mld/miamiherald/living/health/4421420.htm+Columba+Garnica+Gallo%2BJohn+P.+Schmitz&hl=en">64.233.167.104/search?q=c...mitz&hl=en</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>In the 1960s, the petite, dark-eyed Garnica Gallo sisters couldn't wait to leave their hometown of Leon, a 400-year-old shoe-factory capital in central Mexico.<br><br>Early in the next decade they did. One became Columba Bush -- and eventually Florida's First Lady -- the other Lucila Schmitz of Coral Gables.<br><br>''We were dreamers,'' says Lucila. ``We dreamed of falling in love with Prince Charming. And we did.''<br><br>Columba's prince is Gov. Jeb Bush, who deals in politics and power. He gave her three children, four years in a state-owned Tallahassee mansion and a public life that she barely tolerates.<br><br>Lucila's prince, John Schmitz, deals in real estate and restaurants. He gave her two children, a home for her mother and a quietly gracious life that she adores.<br><br>Those who know her say Columba Bush is shy, bright and unpretentious. They describe a God-fearing woman of plain tastes -- notwithstanding the head-to-toe Chanel -- who craves the comforts of home and family.<br><br>''The truth is, she's not a political animal,'' says Adam Friedson, a California-based arts promoter and confidant of Florida's first lady. ``She's surviving the process.''<br><br>But her status as a Bush and her role as first lady have repeatedly thwarted her inclination to keep private life private. The end result has been to drive her deeper into the shadows.<br><br>It has nothing to do with insecurity about her heavily accented English, friends say, everything to do with her natural reserve and propriety.<br><br>Columba Bush declined to be interviewed for this story, but replied by e-mail to some written questions. Friends drew clear and protective lines across their comments, and one relative agreed to speak of her only in tangential terms.<br><br>A major embarrassment early in her husband's administration dragged Columba Bush into the spotlight. U.S. Customs agents caught her trying to sneak $19,000 worth of designer clothes into the country after a Paris shopping trip. She paid a $4,100 fine.<br><br>Deeply humiliated, she disappeared from public view. Then last year, Jeb Bush -- who often brags Columba is the only woman he's been with -- had to publicly deny having an affair......<br><br>.....CHILDHOOD WOES <br><br>Until she was 3, Columba Garnica Gallo lived an outwardly conventional family life with her sister and their older brother, Francisco, now an engineer in Mexico. But appearances masked a domestic hell of screaming and fighting.<br><br>Her father left, and Columba hasn't seen him since. Or wanted to.<br><br>It's a ''private matter'' that Bush won't discuss.<br><br>The family lived in a late 1800s stone-and-brick house belonging to Columba's maternal grandfather, who had modest real-estate holdings. It was alive with flowers, caged canaries and ''a lot of cats'' that the nanny accumulated. It stood across Leon's main street from the Templo Expiatorio, an unfinished cathedral under construction since 1920.....<br><br>......But Bush says she's not in South Florida as often as she'd like to be.<br><br>''I come down for events . . . such as school visits to encourage students to participate in the arts or to speak with children about the dangers of drugs,'' she said via e-mail. ``I'm so busy as first lady of the state that I rarely have an opportunity to visit with friends. I really miss my friends and I hope that I will be able to spend more time with them in the future.''<br><br>That would be welcome news among her former South Florida inner circle.<br><br>''Since she moved to Tallahassee, it's another story, no?'' sighs a woman who misses her company. ``We were very close years ago.''<br><br>As close as it gets, actually. The speaker is Lucila Schmitz....<br><br>.......HOW THEY MET <br><br>Columba was a Beatles-loving teenager with a rebellious streak when she met her future husband through John Schmitz, Jeb's fellow student at Phillips Andover Academy who was also studying in Mexico.<br><br>At first, the five-foot Columba worried about the height differential of more than a foot.<br><br>''It was like a turnoff,'' says Parga, ``but a week later was the first kiss . . . . One time he told me it was raw animal attraction.''<br><br>They corresponded furiously after Jeb left Mexico, and he pressed her to marry quickly. Parga insists that Columba had no idea she was marrying money and status.<br><br>After a small ceremony in the University of Texas/Austin, chapel, ''they lived in a trailer,'' Parga says. Jeb, a student, `` had no money. The Bushes are very conservative with money, and every child has to earn his own.''<br><br>From the day Jeb brought her home, says Adam Friedson, ``there was an absolute, 100 percent embrace of this dark-skinned Latina.''<br><br>Yet it was an offhand comment by her father-in-law in 1988 that caused Columba Bush years of pain.<br><br>President-elect Bush called Ronald Reagan's attention to ''Jebby's kids from Florida, the little brown ones'' on the tarmac of a naval airbase.<br><br>''I was trembling the next day,'' Columba later told The Herald. She insisted that her father-in-law meant it as a sign of affection, and she vigorously defended him.<br><br>Since then, she has maintained that it was the cynical manipulation of that remark by political foes exploiting her children -- not the remark itself -- that has hurt so much.<br><br>Columba says she cherishes her Mexican identity and wants all Mexican-American children, including her own, to feel the same.......<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 12/26/05 1:31 pm<br></i>
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Re: amazing stuff

Postby chiggerbit » Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:12 pm

As for those German connections, this is interesting, to me anyway. <br><br>The first quote is from the Georgetown Prep School site:<br><br><br>emphasis mine<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.gprep.org/communications/Alumnews/AlumnewsSpring2005.pdf">www.gprep.org/communicati...ng2005.pdf</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>When John P. Schmitz, ’72, was trying to decide what to do with his life in 1984 after clerking for U.S. Court of Appeals Judge Antonin Scalia, the future Supreme Court justice offered some good advice: go to Germany.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>Schmitz, who is of German heritage and is fluent in the language, took Scalia’s advice and traveled to Germany on a Robert Bosch Foundation Fellowship, an intensive work and study program. Since then, Schmitz has become one of the nation’s foremost experts on Germany, and he continues to counsel President George H. W. Bush on German affairs. <br><br>"Now, every single time the former president goes to Germany, I’m involved somehow," Schmitz said. "I am his most consistent staffer on German issues." A trip last summer took him to Kennebunkport, Maine, to spend time with the former president and German officials. <br><br>Schmitz, 49, an attorney and partner at Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw in Washington, D.C., worked for Bush during the Reagan Administration as deputy counsel in the Office of the Vice President from 1985 to 1989. Throughout Bush’s presidency, Schmitz served as deputy counsel. In that position, he handled staff applications, FBI background checks … "anything that involved security," he said. He also was part of the German reunification effort and worked on the Clean Air Act of 1990 and the Americans with Disabilities Act.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br><br>Compare the above to what has been already sited by posters above, from Emory's site:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:04LMbknFr9AJ:www.spitfirelist.com/f477.html+Schmitz+family%2BCarl+Duisberg+Gesellschaft&hl=en">64.233.167.104/search?q=c...haft&hl=en</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Program Highlights Include: The criminal backgrounds of many of Atta’s German and European associates; the fact that these individuals’ criminal backgrounds did not prevent them from piloting in the United States; the Chicago Tribune’s curious omission of the name of the German couple who sponsored Atta during the time he was in Germany; the close relationship between the Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft (that sponsored Atta) and the Robert Bosch Foundation (that sponsored John P. Schmitz).<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Makes me wonder what Scalia's connections really are to all of this, if any other than professional. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 12/26/05 1:32 pm<br></i>
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Appears Schmitz is a link between Bush/CIA and German/BND.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:46 pm

Or atleast the Nazi elements in both intel agencies colluding since the end of WWII.<br><br>Not all of these agencies are in collusion. Some CIA and BND reacted to the use of German-provided 'Curveball's' WMD claims with scorn. They got some press but to complain that they were being ignored.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.theworldforum.org/story/2005/11/21/124150/74">www.theworldforum.org/sto.../124150/74</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-curveball20nov20,0,1753730.story?page=1&coll=la-home-headlines">www.latimes.com/news/nati...-headlines</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>>><br>Several German intelligence officials responsible for Curveball have now told the LA Times that the Bush administration and the CIA have repeatedly exaggerated his claims and ignored warnings of the BND that the source was unreliable. Recounting his reaction after seeing Powell's United Nations speech one German intelligence officer said: "We were shocked. Mein Gott! We had always told them it was not proven.... It was not hard intelligence."<br>>><br><br>Former German Secretary of Defence Andreas Von Buelow on 13 Jan 2002 interview said 9/11 was obviously a CIA false-flag psy-ops event to further US economic policies for oil and military bases. He wrote a best-selling book on the subject which inflamed Germany.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://members.tripod.com/~RedRobin2/index-93.html">members.tripod.com/~RedRo...ex-93.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>FORMER GERMAN CABINET MINISTER ATTACKS OFFICIAL BRAINWASHING ON<br>SEPTEMBER 11 ISSUE<br>[Source: Tagesspiegel, Berlin, Jan. 13, 2002] PARTIAL TRANSLATION<br><br>In a full-page interview with the Sunday edition (Jan. 13) of the<br>Berlin Tagesspiegel daily, former German Minister of Technology,<br>Andreas von Buelow, said he does not buy any of the official<br>theories that have been presented to date, on the events of<br>September 11.<br><br>Q: You seem so angry, really upset.<br><br>Von Buelow: I can explain what's bothering me: I see that after the<br>horrifying attacks of Sept. 11, all political public opinion is<br>being forced into a direction that I consider wrong.<br><br>Q: What do you mean by that?<br><br>Von Buelow: I wonder why many questions are not asked. Normally,<br>with such a terrible thing, various leads and tracks appear that are<br>then commented on, by the investigators, the media, the government:<br>Is there something here or not? Are the explanations plausible? This<br>time, this is not the case at all. It already began just hours after<br>the attacks in New York and Washington and--<br><br>Q: In those hours, there was horror, and grief.<br><br>Von Buelow: Right, but actually it was astounding: There are 26<br>intelligence services in the U.S.A. with a budget of $30 billion--<br><br>Q: ...more than the German defense budget...<br><br>Von Buelow: --which were not able to prevent the attacks. In fact,<br>they didn't even have an inkling they would happen. For 60 decisive<br>minutes, the military and intelligence agencies let the fighter<br>planes stay on the ground, 48 hours later, however, the FBI<br>presented a list of suicide attackers. Within ten days, it emerged<br>that seven of them were still alive.<br><br>Q: What, please?<br><br>Von Buelow: Yes, yes. And why did the FBI chief take no position<br>regarding contradictions? Where the list came from, why it was<br>false? If I were the chief investigator (state attorney) in such a<br>case, I would regularly go to the public, and give information on<br>which lead are valid and which not.<br><br>Q: That sounds like--<br><br>Von Buelow: --like assailants who, in their preparations, leave<br>tracks behind them like a herd of stampeding elephants? They made<br>payments with credit cards with their own names; they reported to<br>their flight instructors with their own names. They left behind<br>rented cars with flight manuals in Arabic for jumbo<br>jets. They took with them, on their suicide trip, wills and farewell<br>letters, which fall into the hands of the FBI, because they were<br>stored in the wrong place and wrongly addressed. Clues were left<br>like behind like in a child's game of hide-and-seek, which were to<br>be followed!<br><br>There is also the theory of one British flight engineer: According<br>to this, the steering of the planes was perhaps taken out of the<br>pilots' hands, from outside. The Americans had developed a method in<br>the 1970s, whereby they could rescue hijacked planes by intervening<br>into the computer piloting [automatic pilot system]. This theory<br>says, this technique was abused in this case. That's a theory....<br><br>Q: Which sounds really adventurous, and was never considered.<br><br>Von Buelow: You see! I do not accept this theory, but I find it worth<br>considering. And what about the obscure stock transactions? In the<br>week prior to the attacks, the amount of transactions in stocks in<br>American Airlines, United Airlines, and insurance companies,<br>increased 1,200%. It was for a value of $15 billion. Some people<br>must have known something. Who?<br><br>Q: Why don't you speculate on who it might have been.<br><br>Von Buelow: With the help of the horrifying attacks, the Western mass<br>democracies were subjected to brainwashing. The enemy image of<br>anti-communism doesn't work any more; it is to be replaced by<br>peoples of Islamic belief. They are accused of having given birth to<br>suicidal terrorism.<br><br>Q: Brainwashing? That's a tough term.<br><br>Von Buelow: Yes? But the idea of the enemy image doesn't come from<br>me. It comes from Zbigniew Brzezinski and Samuel Huntington, two<br>policy-makers of American intelligence and foreign policy. Already<br>in the middle of the 1990s, Huntingon believed, people in Europe and<br>the U.S. needed someone they could hate-- this would strengthen their<br>identification with their own society. And Brzezinski, the mad dog,<br>as adviser to President Jimmy Carter, campaigned for the exclusive<br>right of the U.S. to seize all the raw materials of the world,<br>especially oil and gas.<br><br>Q: You mean, the events of Sept. 11--<br><br>Von Buelow: --fit perfectly in the concept of the armaments<br>industry, the intelligence agencies, the whole<br>military-industrial-academic complex. This is in fact conspicuous.<br>The huge raw materials reserves of the former Soviet Union are now<br>at their disposal, also the pipeline routes and--<br><br>Q: Erich Follach described that at length in Spiegel: ``It's a<br>matter of military bases, drugs, oil and gas reserves.''<br><br>Von Buelow: I can state: the planning of the attacks was technically<br>and organizationally a master achievement. To hijack four huge<br>airplanes within a few minutes and within one hour, to drive them<br>into their targets, with complicated flight maneuvers! This is<br>unthinkable, without years-long support from secret apparatuses of<br>the state and industry.<br><br>Q: You are a conspiracy theorist!<br><br>Von Buelow: Yeah, yeah. That's the ridicule heaped [on those raising<br>these questions] by those who would prefer to follow the official,<br>politically correct line. Even investigative journalists are fed<br>propaganda and disinformation. Anyone who doubts that, doesn't have<br>all his marbles! That is your accusation.<br><br>Q: Your career actually speaks against the idea that you are not in<br>your right mind. You were already in the 1970s, state secretary in<br>the Defense Ministry; in 1993 you were the SPD [Social Democratic<br>Party] speaker in the Schalk-Golodkowski investigation committee--<br><br>Von Buelow: And it all began there! Until that time, I did not have<br>any great knowledge of the work of intelligence agencies. And now we<br>had to take note of a great discrepancy: We shed light on the<br>dealings of the Stasi and other East bloc intelligence agencies in<br>the field of economic criminality, but as soon as we wanted to know<br>something about the activities of the BND [German intelligence<br>agency] or the CIA, it was mercilessly blocked. No information, no<br>cooperation, nothing! That's when I was first taken aback.<br>>>><br><br>The BND director who died in 2002 has an obit in the Associated Press that shows the Nazi heritage of the BND:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/linkscopy/WesselObit.html">www.ratical.org/ratville/...lObit.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>>>><br>German Espionage Chief Wessel Dies<br>by Associated Press, 31 July 2002<br><br>BERLIN -- Gerhard Wessel, a former official in Hitler's anti-Soviet spy operation who became chief of the West German intelligence agency, has died. He was 88.<br><br>Wessel died Sunday at his home in the Bavarian town of Pullach in southern Germany, a spokesman for the Federal Intelligence Service said.<br><br>Wessel was president of the agency, known by its German initials BND, between 1968 and 1978 and is also credited with founding Germany's military counterespionage agency.<br><br>Under Wessel's tenure, the BND informed the West German government three months in advance of the Soviet Union's plans to invade Czechoslovakia in 1968.<br><br>The BND also had early information about growing dissatisfaction among shipyard workers in Gdansk, which eventually led to upheaval in Poland in the 1980s.<br><br>Wessel was born in 1913 in Neumunster in northern Germany. During World War II he worked at the German army's central command, analyzing the movements of Soviet troops. After the war, he worked for U.S. intelligence and in industry.<br><br>Beginning in 1952, Wessel played a role in building up the new West German army and its counterespionage unit. He took over the BND as the successor to Reinhard Gehlen, the former chief of Hitler's Soviet intelligence unit, with whom he had worked during and after the war.<br><br>Wessel is credited with turning the BND into a modern intelligence agency that hired academic analysts and electronics specialists alongside agents.<br><br>Several infiltration attempts also marked his tenure.<br><br>In 1970, he advised against the appointment of Gunther Guillaume to the office of then-Chancellor Willy Brandt. Guillaume was later exposed as a spy for communist East Germany, prompting Brandt's resignation.<br><br>Wessel retired from the BND in 1978, when he was 65, and was succeeded by Klaus Kinkel, who later became foreign minister under Helmut Kohl.<br><br>Wessel is to be buried in Pullach on Friday. He is survived by his wife and two adult children.<br>>>><br><br>Nazis are as persistant as cockroaches and in all our institutions..<br>I hope Americans can be awakened as Europeans already are.<br><br>How ironic that FDR allowed Pearl Harbor to spur Americans to fight Nazis who then used 9/11 to make Americans choose someone else as the enemy.<br><br>It's like throwing a stick to get a dog to drop the one he has in his mouth and chase the new one. "FETCH!"<br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 12/26/05 4:02 pm<br></i>
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