I need to correct myself, just in case anybody still litens to me. When I said earlier that Holroyd and Wallace were double agents, it was the exact opposite of what I intended to say. I meant to say
disinfo agents. Neither of them (so far as anyone knows) worked for any other organisation than the British Army and the Crown. They were both professional liars, though, as a matter of course, and that is all Martin Dillon points out in his book - that their accounts should be treated with caution.
Of course, if they hadn't been professional liars, they wouldn't have been in any position to know what was going on in the first place.
I was also wrong in saying that they weren't any good at being agents - Holroyd seems to have had a conscience, which is a different thing from being useless, and Wallace is
still much-praised by intelligence people in the Army for his "creative thinking" during the Troubles. "He was the lynchpin of the whole operation." They never mention Kincora, though, even his supporters. Never.
I was wrong about not reading those books that Stephen Morgan suggested as well. Just got "Programmed To Kill" off my brother. Looking forward to it, after I finish my current boo... bottle.
SEMPER said:Poking into alot of what was really going down in Ulster I suspect would be seriosuly bad for your health.These points ( & false-flags etc ) all neatly tie-up actually with the Airey Neave assassination.
Livingstone ( who I generally can't stand ) got up & made some allegations in Parliament concerning that as I recall
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Yeah, he did. It's the only time I've ever respected him. Don't know what prompted him to do it - I know he was always considered far-left and "difficult" by the Commons, but it's the only time I've ever heard of him causing some real useful trouble. It's in Hansard (I love how they
have to record everything):
Mr. Ken Livingstone (Brent, East)
I rise to raise an issue which has been the subject of a recent book by the journalist Paul Foot: the framing for murder of Colin Wallace, a former employee in the security services of Northern Ireland. In his book, Paul Foot decisively proves that Wallace was framed for a crime which he did not commit in order to ensure that there was no exposure of Wallace's knowledge of the seditious activities of members of the security services.
I am not alone in believing this explanation. Wallace's case has gathered support across the political spectrum, within the media, and from past and serving members of the security services.
The story begins in Northern Ireland in the early 1970s when a separate information unit within the Army information service was set up. Wallace, a central figure in this unit, was required to engage in secret black propaganda disinformation activities. This was a co-ordinated operation to discredit and smear elected politicians using psychological warfare, forgeries, hoax bombings, and the buggery of young boys in the Kincora boys' home for blackmail purposes. Details of these activities were published in "The Pencourt File" and later Peter Wright's "Spycatcher" and David Leigh's "The Wilson Plot".
Wallace's knowledge was political dynamite, and when he began to question these activities, those in power clearly felt that he had to be gagged. He knew too much and had to be discredited. Conviction for murder would clearly achieve that purpose...
It goes on, impressively, for some length.
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... conviction They go back to 1803 on there. I love it. There are some classic old arguments about privatising mental institutions from the 1850s. The Tories thought it was a good idea. Nothing ever changes.
Stephen, this is why you should be interested in Northern Ireland, though. You won't be able to avoid it in the upcoming months anyways - the recent Catholic priest bomber thing (and the UK government cover-up of it) is only the tip of a very large and dark ... thing.
Joe, them Poole and O'malley books are going on my list as well.
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