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Re: Suggest books for me.

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:26 am

Ahoy there Semper,

There is a whole chapter on the Holroyd and Wallace affair in "The Dirty War". Like I said, though, it's a mainstream history book, so the author draws no conclusions - he also points out some of the weaknesses in Wallace and Holroyd, and in their testimony (they were double-agents themselves, from the start, and not very good ones).

I haven't read Paul Foot's book either, to my shame, but he is a great journalist. I would say it is worth reading on those grounds alone. There will be mention of Kincora Boy's Home, and Clockwork Orange II, I would expect.

I just finished Paul Foot's chapter about Lockerbie in John Pilger's "Tell Me No Lies" ... it was compiled from all of his various articles about Lockerbie in Private Eye and the mainstream press, and went from (more or less) the moment of the explosion on Flight 103 up until Paul Foot's own death. It was devastating stuff. In short, Megrahi didn't do it. And who knew? - apart from everybody.

No mention of BP at any point, funnily enough. I've never seen such a big and convenient fall-guy before.
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Re: Suggest books for me.

Postby Stephen Morgan » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:25 pm

AhabsOtherLeg wrote:I'd recommend "A Criminal History Of Mankind" by Colin Wilson. It's not very deep or academic, but as an entertaining overview of human history, concentrating on the bad side, it can't help but also give some insight into "the continuation of ancient cults into the modern world". Other useful books along such lines would be the Bible, the Torah, the Gita, and the Quran. All of those have very good reader reviews on Amazon.


On that subject I recommend Lewis Spence, The Occult Causes of the Present War and Sabine Baring-Gould's Book of Werewolves.

You've read The Ultimate Evil, so that cuts down on occult or conspiracy books I can recommend. Since you're interested in possible Masonic connections to the British deep state, you might like Martin Dillon's "The Dirty War" about the secret conflict (conducted beneath and above and contiguously with the obvious one) in Northern Ireland. It's a mainstream history book, but since it concentrates on such little-reported stuff as the "Four-Square Laundry" operation, the background of Robert Nairac, the Shankill Butchers (and who paid them), and the Pitchfork Murders, you should find much of interest.


Never been into Northern Ireland. Maybe if it was about the Russian flase flag attacks known as the Russian 9/11, or those SAS chaps captured in Iraq machine gunning a police check point...

As for Occult Conspiracy books, I must recommend Dave MacGowan's Programmed to Kill, The Carnivals of Life and Death by James Shelby Downard and the two above. Also parts of At the Tomb of the Inflatable Pig.

"The Strange Death of David Kelly" is something I'll never stop recommending to everyone I meet, so try that too.


Read it. Didn't grab me. If we're talking assassinations I'd recommend Donald Freed's Death in Washington.

Mary Wollstonecraft's "A Vindication of the Rights of Woman" (1792) is a great book too, but you might not like it. Some of the ideas expressed in it might strike you as a bit too post-modern.


I don't like all that modernist stuff. Modernist architecture, brutalism, flat roofs, so called modern art where someone can sell the government his own shit, tinned, and charge more than it's weight in gold, it's all shameful. Post modernism is must the same but more so. Anyway, you all know how I feel about feminism. Maybe if you know of any books showing that it's all an occultic and capitalist cospiracy you can point me to them.
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Re: Suggest books for me.

Postby Stephen Morgan » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:29 pm

Joe Hillshoist wrote:I'd recommend Knees Up Mother Earth.

But you probably read it 9 weeks ago.


Why nine weeks? Is that the one where the professor reanimates to win a cup tie? Or is that Sex, Drugs and Sausage Rolls? I've read all the Pooley and Omalley books, anyway. Even their brief cameo in The Greatest Man Who Ever Lived. Or it might have been Raiders of the Lost Car Park. Or the Book of Wotsit Truths. Except the Brightonomicon. Haven't read that, but it's only got Pooley in it. That's a spoiler, incidentally. HEard that on the radio. The only book of his that I actually own, mind, is A Dog Called Demolition.
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Re: Suggest books for me.

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:22 pm

Stephen Morgan wrote:Never been into Northern Ireland. Maybe if it was about the Russian flase flag attacks known as the Russian 9/11, or those SAS chaps captured in Iraq machine gunning a police check point...


Y'know, funnily enough, it kind of is. It's the same kind of guys doing the same kind of stuff. Northern Ireland was a training ground for the current and ongoing model of urban asymmetric warfare - we were also illegally detaining and torturing people there for a long time before the Americans started on there own more recent program. They came to us for advice on how to do it without the UN getting all uppity, and we helped them out, being the more experienced partners. So now we're all in it together.

Anyhow, I'm not listening to your reading advice. Cos you r a bum face. On account of your face is totally like that of a person's bum.
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Re: Suggest books for me.

Postby semper occultus » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:10 pm

Ahab wrote:Northern Ireland was a training ground for the current and ongoing model of urban asymmetric warfare


Morgan wrote:Quote:
"The Strange Death of David Kelly" is something I'll never stop recommending to everyone I meet, so try that too.

Read it. Didn't grab me. If we're talking assassinations I'd recommend Donald Freed's Death in Washington.


Baker's conclusion it was the Iraqi's seems obtuse but hey..maybe he wants to stay alive or something ?

Poking into alot of what was really going down in Ulster I suspect would be seriosuly bad for your health.

These points ( & false-flags etc ) all neatly tie-up actually with the Airey Neave assassination.
Livingstone ( who I generally can't stand ) got up & made some allegations in Parliament concerning that as I recall.
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Re: Suggest books for me.

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:20 pm

Stephen Morgan wrote:
Joe Hillshoist wrote:I'd recommend Knees Up Mother Earth.

But you probably read it 9 weeks ago.


Why nine weeks? Is that the one where the professor reanimates to win a cup tie? Or is that Sex, Drugs and Sausage Rolls? I've read all the Pooley and Omalley books, anyway. Even their brief cameo in The Greatest Man Who Ever Lived. Or it might have been Raiders of the Lost Car Park. Or the Book of Wotsit Truths. Except the Brightonomicon. Haven't read that, but it's only got Pooley in it. That's a spoiler, incidentally. HEard that on the radio. The only book of his that I actually own, mind, is A Dog Called Demolition.


9 weeks ago ... just in time for the world cup.

I think it is the one where the professor reanimates ...

Basically Pooley and Omalley run Brentford FC, and end up winning something that saves the world.

I've only read about half of them myself.

I love Robert Rankin tho. He's genuinely funny.

The Armageddon books were what got me started (one of them was actually like tripping,) but I still haven't read the Suburban book of the dead - one day.

Web Site Story is a good one too.
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Re: Suggest books for me.

Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:29 pm

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Solomon's Treasure: The Magic and Mystery of America's Money

By Tracy R. Twyman

Solomon’s Treasure explains how the magic of the dollar operates. The creation of money by the Federal Reserve, and its exponential multiplication by the procedures of the banking system, is analogous to the creation and multiplication of gold in the metaphysical "science" of alchemy. The members of the Federal Reserve Board are in many ways like sorcerers, conjuring wealth seemingly out of thin air and distributing it at will to transform the American economy according to their desires. The dollar is "fiat currency", declared into existence by the central bank in a manner similar to the creation of the universe by the divine words "Let there be light!"

This system depends entirely on a religious faith by the American people in the supernatural power of the dollar. This faith is reinforced by the financial terminology currently in use, as well as by watchwords and symbols found on American money. These act as magical charms, and also act as tokens of communal trust in, and fidelity to, the dollar as an institution. Every time a person spends a dollar, or accepts a dollar as payment, they are confirming their belief in the dollar, and using it to exercise their spiritual will. Even the familiar dollar ($) sign has an occult meaning which is linked with these ideas.

Solomon’s Treasure reveals the role played by the Knights Templar in the development of capitalism and the modern banking system. Because of their pivotal contributions, numerous modern financial terms, monetary concepts, and banking practices can be traced back to the Templars. Perhaps most shocking are the links between the treasure of King Solomon, purportedly discovered by the Knights Templar, and America’s wealth. In Solomon’s Treasure, author Tracy R. Twyman explains how time-honored esoteric wisdom principles of wealth creation have been passed down through the ages: from King Solomon, to the Knights Templar, to the Freemasons, and ultimately to the architects of the US dollar.
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Re: Suggest books for me.

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:21 am

I need to correct myself, just in case anybody still litens to me. When I said earlier that Holroyd and Wallace were double agents, it was the exact opposite of what I intended to say. I meant to say disinfo agents. Neither of them (so far as anyone knows) worked for any other organisation than the British Army and the Crown. They were both professional liars, though, as a matter of course, and that is all Martin Dillon points out in his book - that their accounts should be treated with caution.

Of course, if they hadn't been professional liars, they wouldn't have been in any position to know what was going on in the first place.

I was also wrong in saying that they weren't any good at being agents - Holroyd seems to have had a conscience, which is a different thing from being useless, and Wallace is still much-praised by intelligence people in the Army for his "creative thinking" during the Troubles. "He was the lynchpin of the whole operation." They never mention Kincora, though, even his supporters. Never.

I was wrong about not reading those books that Stephen Morgan suggested as well. Just got "Programmed To Kill" off my brother. Looking forward to it, after I finish my current boo... bottle.


SEMPER said:
Poking into alot of what was really going down in Ulster I suspect would be seriosuly bad for your health.

These points ( & false-flags etc ) all neatly tie-up actually with the Airey Neave assassination.
Livingstone ( who I generally can't stand ) got up & made some allegations in Parliament concerning that as I recall
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Yeah, he did. It's the only time I've ever respected him. Don't know what prompted him to do it - I know he was always considered far-left and "difficult" by the Commons, but it's the only time I've ever heard of him causing some real useful trouble. It's in Hansard (I love how they have to record everything):

Mr. Ken Livingstone (Brent, East)

I rise to raise an issue which has been the subject of a recent book by the journalist Paul Foot: the framing for murder of Colin Wallace, a former employee in the security services of Northern Ireland. In his book, Paul Foot decisively proves that Wallace was framed for a crime which he did not commit in order to ensure that there was no exposure of Wallace's knowledge of the seditious activities of members of the security services.

I am not alone in believing this explanation. Wallace's case has gathered support across the political spectrum, within the media, and from past and serving members of the security services.

The story begins in Northern Ireland in the early 1970s when a separate information unit within the Army information service was set up. Wallace, a central figure in this unit, was required to engage in secret black propaganda disinformation activities. This was a co-ordinated operation to discredit and smear elected politicians using psychological warfare, forgeries, hoax bombings, and the buggery of young boys in the Kincora boys' home for blackmail purposes. Details of these activities were published in "The Pencourt File" and later Peter Wright's "Spycatcher" and David Leigh's "The Wilson Plot".

Wallace's knowledge was political dynamite, and when he began to question these activities, those in power clearly felt that he had to be gagged. He knew too much and had to be discredited. Conviction for murder would clearly achieve that purpose...


It goes on, impressively, for some length. http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... conviction

They go back to 1803 on there. I love it. There are some classic old arguments about privatising mental institutions from the 1850s. The Tories thought it was a good idea. Nothing ever changes.

Stephen, this is why you should be interested in Northern Ireland, though. You won't be able to avoid it in the upcoming months anyways - the recent Catholic priest bomber thing (and the UK government cover-up of it) is only the tip of a very large and dark ... thing.

Joe, them Poole and O'malley books are going on my list as well.
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Re: Suggest books for me.

Postby Telexx » Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:11 pm

Hello,

If anybody does have book suggestions (or other researches) re: banks and the drugs trade (HSBC specifically) would be very welcomed here.


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Re: Suggest books for me.

Postby semper occultus » Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:54 pm

there's alot about them in this one albeit dating from 1986 & with a jumbo-sized caveat lector - this is a La Rouchie production

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