If lovin' playoff hockey is wrong...

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Postby 82_28 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:15 pm

Always bear this in mind, Boston.

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Sorry, Quebec.

(for those who don't know Ray Borque came to Colorado from Boston in his last two years to win the cup. The Avs were a powerhouse back then. Not so much anymore.)
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:14 am

Hey is it true there are more Canadians playing for Boston than for Vansterdasm?
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Postby Feilan » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:34 am

^^^ yah...
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:56 pm

Sport is a funny thing like that.

I went to my first game of League footy on the weekend. Drove 150 km each way to watch the North Melbourne Kangaroos play the Gold Coast Suns. I have followed the Kangas since I was too young to know who they were or what sport was. Their captain Brent Harvey set a club record that night, playing his 312th (senior, first grade) game for the club. He's a legend. He is my size and plays the way I (wished I) played when I was young, (only he's a bit better :basicsmile ).

And he's one of those guys that lifts for the big games. One of the reasons playoffs/finals are so good is that everything goes up a level in intensity. Harvey plays like that.

He just broke Glenn Archer's record for the club, and thats only a couple of years old.

Here are some highlights of his magnificent career. (Sorry about the poxy music.)



(First game for years not first ever.)
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Postby Feilan » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:53 am

^^^That was fun to watch: someone doing something beautiful with joy and integrity. I don't know much about rugby except for legendary tales of bruising and that it's played with a ball that looks familiar - I note he 'dribbled' the ball -or- *bounced it* in mid run - is that required or just cool?

**turned off the poxy music in favour of not-poxy options** :partyhat
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:21 am

Feilan wrote:^^^That was fun to watch: someone doing something beautiful with joy and integrity. I don't know much about rugby except for legendary tales of bruising and that it's played with a ball that looks familiar - I note he 'dribbled' the ball -or- *bounced it* in mid run - is that required or just cool?

**turned off the poxy music in favour of not-poxy options** :partyhat


Its called Australian Rules Football, and its closer to Gaelic or Irish football than any other sort of football.

This game is NOT rugby, not in any form :mad2 :wink . (Although I think most people know that and keep calling it rugby to stir me. Which is appropriate really given we're talking about sport. There is a notorious rivalry in Australian between Aussie Rules and Rugby.) As far as football codes go, Australian football, grid iron and rugby all use a similar shaped ball. Aussie rules is the only one that really focuses on kicking tho. In the other codes only a few specialists kick the ball - in grid iron they have special players and all they do is kick. Basically its played on a massive field with people all over the place.

Imagine basketball on a field 150 metres long and 120 wide and you get the idea. No line of scrimmage or anything like that. Cos of that there are limits on how far you can run with the ball, 15 metres, if you run any further you have to bounce it like you saw, or touch the ball to the ground. Its not an exact thing tho, usually the umpires will give a player a bit of leeway, so you can up to 20 metres sometimes. The game is 4 20 minute quarters, with time off for most stoppages, each quarter averages half an hour or more, and the stoppage time is usually full or running or wrestling to position. Most players run 12 to 19 km a game, about a third of that flat out. The last quarter ... it can hurt, cos you have to run with your opponent all day. Sometimes you run halfway up the ground and back twice during a stoppage just to tire your player enough to get the few metres head start you need to do the stuff you saw in that video above. If your opponent does it you have to stay with them cos a man loose (ie more than a couple of metres from his opponent) can wreak havoc. And you have to be prepared to go flat outwhen the ball does come not matter how fucked you are. The best things about playing aussie rules are the freedom and the focus on one on one contests.

It'd make more sense to ice hockey players than some sports tho, cos of the way you need to control possession and score goals on an open field.

Its bruising tho. I've seen bruises the size of dinner plates on people before. Its a tough game.





Anyway can't forget one of, if not the greatest (and most despised) player yet - Wayne Carey.





Its the 13th here now. Game 6 tonight yeah?

I've been vaguely following it, and I guess here's my uninformed opinion. The Canucks need to play hard intense and aggressive hockey, especially on their backline/defensive. If they play like its a final they should win. You know - this whole thread is about finals, and finals should mean you lift and play harder and better than during the regular season. It seems as tho thats the story so far.

It seems to be about Vancouver and their ability to play their game, specifically in defense, there's only one game they have scored more than once, Yeah? But they are winning the series and one game away from taking it. Then again the home ground advantage seems to be the thing with this series.

They've let less than a goal per game in at home and let in 6 goals a game away.

You'd have to think those are unusual results cos its pretty rare for a team to get that far in any competition if they can't win away from home. )Unless their goalie has some sort of choking problem.)
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Postby 82_28 » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:57 am

Yep, it's tonight. The Bruins will come out hard, harder than hard, hard hard hard. I look for a brutal game. The way Vancouver has played in Boston, I just don't know if they'll be up to it. It hinges on Luongo keeping his shit together in the crease and a goal or two on offense to keep things tight to make it winnable. They just can't collapse to the unrelenting attack.

It could also be, it just occurred to me time zone differences could be affecting the disparity in home ice scores. My lady just flew out to Ohio (via Atlanta -- so Seattle-Atlanta-Ohio-work YUCK) yesterday for work and is expected to get up here in a few as she happens to be texting me as I write this. I'm just about to go to bed and she's now having to get up at an abnormal time for her as it would be on the west coast, but now finds herself on the east coast getting up three hours earlier and she don't gotta play no hockey today.
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Postby Feilan » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:05 am

82_28 wrote:Yep, it's tonight. The Bruins will come out hard, harder than hard, hard hard hard. I look for a brutal game. The way Vancouver has played in Boston, I just don't know if they'll be up to it. It hinges on Luongo keeping his shit together in the crease and a goal or two on offense to keep things tight to make it winnable. They just can't collapse to the unrelenting attack.

It could also be, it just occurred to me time zone differences could be affecting the disparity in home ice scores. My lady just flew out to Ohio (via Atlanta -- so Seattle-Atlanta-Ohio-work YUCK) yesterday for work and is expected to get up here in a few as she happens to be texting me as I write this. I'm just about to go to bed and she's now having to get up at an abnormal time for her as it would be on the west coast, but now finds herself on the east coast getting up three hours earlier and she don't gotta play no hockey today.


Luongo isn't the only choke risk, but he's a linchpin alright... Luongo really lost his marbles in both Boston games and would seem a lot more shake-able than Timmy Thomas, the brick-wall.

LOL - the Canucks are "the most-hated team in hockey"... repeats this morning's news. Maybe they'll surprise everyone tonight. Few seem to think so.

What you say about time difference is a good point I think. These two teams represent the longest east west distance ever traveled between any two arenas in NHL finals history...

Well. Until game-time gentlemen ... :partyhat
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Postby Feilan » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:17 am

Joe Hillshoist wrote:This game is NOT rugby, not in any form :mad2 :basicsmile . (Although I think most people know that and keep calling it rugby to stir me. Which is appropriate really given we're talking about sport. There is a notorious rivalry in Australian between Aussie Rules and Rugby.) As far as football codes go, Australian football, grid iron and rugby all use a similar shaped ball. Aussie rules is the only one that really focuses on kicking tho. In the other codes only a few specialists kick the ball - in grid iron they have special players and all they do is kick. Basically its played on a massive field with people all over the place.

Imagine basketball on a field 150 metres long and 120 wide and you get the idea. No line of scrimmage or anything like that. Cos of that there are limits on how far you can run with the ball, 15 metres, if you run any further you have to bounce it like you saw, or touch the ball to the ground. Its not an exact thing tho, usually the umpires will give a player a bit of leeway, so you can up to 20 metres sometimes. The game is 4 20 minute quarters, with time off for most stoppages, each quarter averages half an hour or more, and the stoppage time is usually full or running or wrestling to position. Most players run 12 to 19 km a game, about a third of that flat out. The last quarter ... it can hurt, cos you have to run with your opponent all day. Sometimes you run halfway up the ground and back twice during a stoppage just to tire your player enough to get the few metres head start you need to do the stuff you saw in that video above. If your opponent does it you have to stay with them cos a man loose (ie more than a couple of metres from his opponent) can wreak havoc. And you have to be prepared to go flat outwhen the ball does come not matter how fucked you are. The best things about playing aussie rules are the freedom and the focus on one on one contests.

It'd make more sense to ice hockey players than some sports tho, cos of the way you need to control possession and score goals on an open field.


^^^ Thanks for that :bigsmile . The basketball analogy makes a lot of sense - that's what I had in mind when I was watching. A game called Aussie Rules... huh. I had no idea about the distinctions there ... very interesting! Great explanation. Goooooooooooooo Kangas! :yay

I'm gonna dig into the video samplers now.. :partydance: .
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Re: If lovin' playoff hockey is wrong...

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:29 am

82_28 wrote:It could also be, it just occurred to me time zone differences could be affecting the disparity in home ice scores. My lady just flew out to Ohio (via Atlanta -- so Seattle-Atlanta-Ohio-work YUCK) yesterday for work and is expected to get up here in a few as she happens to be texting me as I write this. I'm just about to go to bed and she's now having to get up at an abnormal time for her as it would be on the west coast, but now finds herself on the east coast getting up three hours earlier and she don't gotta play no hockey today.


I had wondered about that myself.

Two ends of the continent - two different timezones.

It could have something to do with body biorhythms.
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Postby 82_28 » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:39 pm

Three time zones actually.
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Postby Feilan » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:57 pm

I've got my hab's t-shirt on and a bright green hoodie. I'm bringing all the mojo I have to bear on this serious matter of international importance. I've got a cold can of something Canadian poised for the face-off:

engage! :yay
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Postby Feilan » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:48 pm

:blankstare trainwreck.

Kaberle just scored number 4. Kaberle. we haven't even hit the ten minute mark in the first.
penalty for holding called on Kessler.

oh well. GAME 7 :jumping:
sigh.
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Postby 82_28 » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:50 pm

OMFG!!! We could have an historically epically ugly game on our hands here. Wow wow wow.

4-0 boston midway thru the 1st, for people like Joe and shit who may not be watching.

This could go down in history. I don't know what Van is gonna do at this point. . .
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Postby Feilan » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:58 pm

82_28 wrote:I don't know what Van is gonna do at this point. . .


"Regroup! Regrououuuuuouuouuup!"" :blinky:

They just put up a map showing distances travelled ... well. be that as it may, game 7.
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