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Joao » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:54 pm wrote:Crisis Actors is naive critical media studies, much like Lizard People is naive class analysis.
JackRiddler » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:53 pm wrote:Joao » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:54 pm wrote:Crisis Actors is naive critical media studies, much like Lizard People is naive class analysis.
Well yeah. There are degress of naive, and this is the extreme. It's also a kind of performance for some, I suspect. Makes a lot more sense that some of the crisis actor analysts on the Internet are fakes than that the government or the secret societies are hiring and deploying literally hundreds of people to spend their lifetimes as fakes, doesn't it?
guruilla (in another thread) » Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:19 am wrote:Somebody over there (I just looked in at the thread, I don't follow it) made the comment that "Crisis Actors is naive critical media studies, much like Lizard People is naive class analysis." This is a clever comment but it is only meaningful at a certain level of discussion, one at which it is already agreed that we know for sure that Lizard People and Crisis Actors do not exist, in any sense besides metaphorical. While I personally think Icke and many researchers go too far with literalizing what does not need to be literalized, I also know, beyond all doubt, that I do NOT know for certain that Lizard People or Crisis Actors do not exist.
Now that I write it down, it's disingenuous for Joao to put LPs in the same breath as CAs, because there's significant evidence for Crisis Actors existing (and why wouldn't they?), whereas the evidence for the existence of Lizard People (i.e., nonhuman, interdimensional beings that can appear human) is a lot less reliable (mostly testimonial), so to talk about them as a possibility requires going down to deeper levels of psychology and consciousness, to see the ways in which they might exist at some level, less literal than Donald Trump, maybe, but still not entirely metaphorical.
backtoiam » Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:01 pm wrote:"Crisis Actor" is a thought stopper and an invitation to be ridiculed. But if you say "a person involved in a staged event or participates as a witness to a staged event" it suddenly seems much more plausible given the fakery of the mainstream media these days.
Joao » Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:28 pm wrote:May the jewel of critical engagement blossom from the woo lotus.
Wombaticus Rex » Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:43 am wrote:backtoiam » Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:01 pm wrote:"Crisis Actor" is a thought stopper and an invitation to be ridiculed. But if you say "a person involved in a staged event or participates as a witness to a staged event" it suddenly seems much more plausible given the fakery of the mainstream media these days.
Disagree completely. "Crisis Actor" is a specific theory about specific events, and pretending it's an insult is absurd. Those motherfuckers made their own beds. They took the name from an actual (very strange and real!) niche business, applied it liberally to Sandy Hook and everything since, and will no doubt be publishing several books in the next year.
They don't complain about being called "Crisis Actor theorists." They complain about being called "Conspiracy Theorists." Which is a thought-stopper pejorative.
backtoiam » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:45 am wrote:
We have staged events and people that participate in these staged events and I think we can agree on that. So what do we call these people?
Wombaticus Rex » Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:46 am wrote:backtoiam » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:45 am wrote:
We have staged events and people that participate in these staged events and I think we can agree on that. So what do we call these people?
Call 'em what they are: LEOs, EMTs, firefighters, volunteers, dispatchers, etc.
Wombaticus Rex » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:46 am wrote:backtoiam » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:45 am wrote:
We have staged events and people that participate in these staged events and I think we can agree on that. So what do we call these people?
Call 'em what they are: LEOs, EMTs, firefighters, volunteers, dispatchers, etc.
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