Chelsea Clinton is an Idiot.

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Re: Chelsea Clinton is an Idiot.

Postby Elvis » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:24 am

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Re: Chelsea Clinton is an Idiot.

Postby Cordelia » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:14 pm

^^^Is that picture 'real'? Very strange hand she & Ivanka share.

Poor Chelsea, born an only child to personality disordered parents determined to conquer, raised and groomed to spout the family line and shill for the party; not an enviable position in life......destined , maybe to be another George W (but w/o a sense of humor).

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Re: Chelsea Clinton is an Idiot.

Postby Elvis » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:30 pm

Yes, it's real.

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Re: Chelsea Clinton is an Idiot.

Postby dada » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:35 pm

Elvis » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:10 am wrote:She does apparently read a lot, books & articles, but that doesn't mean she isn't a nitwit. Especially if we're talking about Senate material, I think she's a nitwit. In the OP video she doesn't know what she's talking about. Also, listen again to some of her sentences. I call nitwit.

I don't think I'm being unfair with this thread; she's a public figure by her own choice, and a the possibility of a political bid calls for scrutiny...and ridicule.

She seems nice, not evil, but could be dangerous.


Being a nitwit never stopped anyone from being a politician. Depending on how you look at it, that may even be a qualification.

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry, as someone once said. And as any good entertainer knows, you don't pay attention to what people are saying about you, you just measure it in inches. As someone else once said. Scrutiny and ridicule are like tabloid advertising.

Popularity is a two-edged sword, you know, as a third someone once said. Or was that freedom. Something is a two-edged sword. Whatever. What matters is who is wielding it. The girded sword is the soul of the samurai. In ancient times, when magictek and warmechs ruled the earth, the gods wore and wielded two-edged swords.

I, the hidden Steve Bannon of the people, hereby invite all artists, surrealists, anarchists, animists, comedians, musicians (even drummers), mesmerists, spiritualists, video game programmers, pornographers, cultural marxists of every stripe and persuasion to support Chelsea in her every ambition and endeavor. Join us, won't you?
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Re: Chelsea Clinton is an Idiot.

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:34 pm

I don't think she has political ambitions akin to her mother's. But I don't pay much attention to news about Chelsea. I think her dress is very strange. Cherries and what, bunny heads? Eagles carrying nuclear missiles?

We don't get to pick our parents. I always feel sad for her whenever I see her, even knowing she's extremely wealthy and will never go wanting. Imagine the baggage from her parents she's got to lug around and compare it with your own inherent load of parent package baggage.

But then I think about kids elsewhere around the world, what they have to deal with and why.
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Re: Chelsea Clinton is an Idiot.

Postby Cordelia » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:53 pm

Elvis » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:30 pm wrote:Yes, it's real.



Thanks for confirming.....looks like she's also destined to zombie-walk the red carpet, air-kissing other clones posed in front of corporate backdrops. What bizarre lives.



I quite agree w/you, iawia:

We don't get to pick our parents. I always feel sad for her whenever I see her, even knowing she's extremely wealthy and will never go wanting. Imagine the baggage from her parents she's got to lug around and compare it with your own inherent load of parent package baggage.

But then I think about kids elsewhere around the world, what they have to deal with and why.
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Re: Chelsea Clinton is an Idiot.

Postby Elvis » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:30 pm

Cordelia wrote:zombie-walk the red carpet, air-kissing other clones posed in front of corporate backdrops


I was going to say something about Glamour. Sponsored by glamour.

Glamour...

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...early 18th century (originally Scots in the sense ‘enchantment, magic’): alteration of grammar. Although grammar itself was not used in this sense, the Latin word grammatica (from which it derives) was often used in the Middle Ages to mean ‘scholarship, learning,’ including the occult practices popularly associated with learning. https://www.google.com/search?q=glamour ... bs=glamour


I did not know that.
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Re: Chelsea Clinton is an Idiot.

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:22 pm

Glamour: Into the Dust Bin!

We have mos def entered the post-glamour age.

And that gives me new worries about Chelsea's political ambitions.

Any minute the bell in her head could ring and she'd realize - this is MY moment to shine, like... They're playing my song!
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Re: Chelsea Clinton is an Idiot.

Postby Rory » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:36 am

File under, surprisingly not April 1st, or Stories that should come from The Onion but don't

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/32516 ... ment-award

Chelsea Clinton will be honored with a Variety's lifetime achievement award next month, the magazine announced Tuesday.

The 37-year-old former first daughter, a vice chair of the Clinton Foundation, is rumored to be eyeing a run for a New York Senate seat in 2020 should Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D) decide to run for president, the New York Daily News reported last month.

Variety will hand out its lifetime achievement awards during its annual “Women in Power” luncheon at the ritzy Cipriani restaurant in midtown Manhattan on April 18.

Other winners this year include "CBS This Morning" Gayle King, actresses Jessica Chastain, Blake Lively and Audra McDonald and media executive Shari Redstone.

According to Variety, Clinton is being honored "for her work with Alliance for a Healthier Generation, which empowers kids to develop lifelong healthy habits."

More than 400 entertainment and media insiders are expected to attend, according to event organizers.

The event will be hosted by “Saturday Night Live’s” Vanessa Bayer.
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Re: Chelsea Clinton is an Idiot.

Postby Iamwhomiam » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:48 pm

She'll lose if she runs.
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Re: Chelsea Clinton is an Idiot.

Postby Cordelia » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:06 pm

Rory » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:36 pm wrote:File under, surprisingly not April 1st, or Stories that should come from The Onion but don't

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/32516 ... ment-award

Chelsea Clinton will be honored with a Variety's lifetime achievement award next month, the magazine announced Tuesday.

The 37-year-old former first daughter, a vice chair of the Clinton Foundation, is rumored to be eyeing a run for a New York Senate seat in 2020 should Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D) decide to run for president, the New York Daily News reported last month.

Variety will hand out its lifetime achievement awards during its annual “Women in Power” luncheon at the ritzy Cipriani restaurant in midtown Manhattan on April 18.

Other winners this year include "CBS This Morning" Gayle King, actresses Jessica Chastain, Blake Lively and Audra McDonald and media executive Shari Redstone.

According to Variety, Clinton is being honored "for her work with Alliance for a Healthier Generation, which empowers kids to develop lifelong healthy habits."

More than 400 entertainment and media insiders are expected to attend, according to event organizers
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The event will be hosted by “Saturday Night Live’s” Vanessa Bayer.


Goody; more red carpet advertising opportunities for Chelsea, Vanessa Bayer, and Kirsten Gillibrand, et al.......

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Re: Chelsea Clinton is an Idiot.

Postby Cordelia » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:29 pm

Iamwhomiam » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:48 pm wrote:She'll lose if she runs.


Do you mean Clinton, Gillibrand, or both?

The 37-year-old former first daughter, a vice chair of the Clinton Foundation, is rumored to be eyeing a run for a New York Senate seat in 2020 should Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D) decide to run for president, the New York Daily News reported last month.
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Re: Chelsea Clinton is an Idiot.

Postby Rory » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:01 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act ... disappear/

Chelsea Clinton came in for a roasting on Wednesday when some readers mistook the news that she was receiving an award from the Lifetime network and the Hollywood trade magazine Variety to mean she was was going to be the recipient of a lifetime achievement honor. For all this round of particular ire directed at the former first daughter was due to bad faith and misleading headlines, it crystallized an uneasy conviction. If Clinton decides that she wants to run for office or assume some sort of role in American public life — and she has not yet declared that she does, though a more tart Twitter feed and some new projects suggest that she’s attempting to rebrand herself — the best possible thing for her to do in the near-term is to disappear.

Even the most generous reading of Clinton’s professional résumé reveals a portrait of someone who has not exactly discovered her vocation. Clinton began with stints at McKinsey, which can function either as “an elite business training corps” or a sort of holding pattern for smart people without clear career goals, and a hedge fund, then continued on to seats on a couple of corporate and charitable boards, a vice chairmanship at the Clinton Foundation, and a role as a “special correspondent” for NBC that produced a rather embarrassing salary-to-output ratio.

I don’t mean to suggest that Clinton has never done anything worthwhile or never been effective in any role; evidence suggests that if nothing else, she tried to push for improved ethical standards at the Clinton Foundation. But there’s nothing that unites this grab-bag of jobs and sinecures; her positions doesn’t reveal any particular passion for any suite of issues or overarching theory of change. Generally, having one or the other, or both, is helpful if you wish to pursue a career in public service or public advocacy. A dedication to a particular policy area helps explain why a person is seeking a public platform or political office. And an argument for a particular approach to making policy suggests what a person would do with power if they got it. If people are giving you positions because of the family you were born into rather than some relevant talent or interest in the subject, these sorts of positions make the person who holds them look scattered rather than well-rounded.

Even Clinton’s forthcoming children’s book, “She Persisted,” gives the queasy impression of riding someone else’s coattails; the title is a riff on Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s (R-Ky.) explanation for shutting down Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s (D-Mass.) speech opposing President Trump’s nomination of Jeff Sessions as attorney general. Clinton’s book deal felt like the political equivalent of Etsy stores rushing to emblazon the latest political catchphrase on everything from stamped metal jewelry, to t-shirts, to stemless wine glasses.

It’s absolutely true that Clinton can’t help who her parents are, and it’s not exactly fair that the people who said her tremendously hard-working mother felt entitled to elected office are transferring that gripe into a second generation, even though Chelsea Clinton has not explicitly said that she intends to seek any position. But if it’s not just, it is also an impression that Clinton could take care not to reinforce. If the daughter of two extraordinarily prominent American politicians has to work as hard, or even twice as hard, as other people to prove that she’s more than simply their dynastic successor, I don’t exactly see that as a major tragedy.

So if Clinton does want to run for office, or to be a successful advocate for an issue, or even just to continue to be credible when she tweets or speaks on a subject, the most strategic thing she could possibly do would be to disappear (as much as it’s possible for a famous person to do in the United States these days). She should decline graciously when she’s asked to be an award recipient and send substantial checks to the relevant charities instead. She should stick to publishing substantive volumes such as her previous “Governing Global Health,” written with Devi Sridhar, rather than the sort of children’s volume public figures dash off all the time. And she should find an issue-oriented job that she goes to every day, and at which she has significant, substantive responsibilities.

Even if Clinton does all of this, there will still be plenty of Americans who dislike her or would be disinclined to vote for her. We’re suspicious of dynasties, and overall, I think that’s a healthy element of our politics. But even if lying low and reemerging doesn’t get Clinton elected to anything, or doesn’t win her a platform, a carefully-calibrated retreat might at least put her on an actual career path. There’s more than one route to doing all the good you can, for all the people you can, in all the ways you can, as long as ever you can.
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Re: Chelsea Clinton is an Idiot.

Postby Iamwhomiam » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:32 pm

Cordelia » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:29 pm wrote:
Iamwhomiam » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:48 pm wrote:She'll lose if she runs.


Do you mean Clinton, Gillibrand, or both?

The 37-year-old former first daughter, a vice chair of the Clinton Foundation, is rumored to be eyeing a run for a New York Senate seat in 2020 should Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D) decide to run for president, the New York Daily News reported last month.

Thanks for asking me to clarify. I see I should have been more specific.

I meant that Chelsea would not win the NY Senate contest, Cordelia. But I don't think Gillibrand should run for President, either. I doubt she'd win against Trump, if he lasts that long and I don't think he will.

Gillibrand is the granddaughter of Polly Noonan, who was politely termed "a long time confidante" of Albany Mayor Erastus Corning, 2nd.
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Wisest thing for Gillibrand to do is to stay put. Republicans have targeted her for removal and will be spending a fortune to oust her.

Chelsea will remain visible wherever money gathers, because that's her job now. For the Foundation ~ forever! I sure hope she won't enter politics to run for office herself.
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Re: Chelsea Clinton is an Idiot.

Postby Rory » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:15 pm

Ouch. Even the bastions of global finance seem turned off by the Clinton brand these days. Busted flushes. The comments are scathing also. Seems like the only people that want a Clinton revival are their paid, belabored PR saps. Maybe if Chelsea rebranded: Hubbell-Mezvinsky 2020?

https://www.ft.com/content/e63646c4-196 ... 09f373be87
Yet Mrs Clinton is being urged to run for a big New York job, such as mayor or state governor. Her daughter is being encouraged to run for an open congressional seat in New York next year, or possibly a Senate vacancy in 2020.

They may not be aware of how their candidacies would strike the world outside of their echo chamber.

The Clintons are surrounded by admirers who would profit from their return to public life. They offer instant name recognition that promises plenty of dollars. But their name also generates resentment. To many Americans, the Clintons are the epitome of elite preachiness.

Their best line of attack on Mr Trump would be to retire altogether from public life. The Clintons have had their turn. They should not blot out the sunlight for future leaders.
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