Re: Chekhov!

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Re: Chekhov!

Postby Sounder » Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:28 pm

For the record, after googling Humanism for a refresher, and talking with my family physician, I am definitely not anti-humanism.


Good to have that confirmed by the proper authority.
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Re: Chekhov!

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:41 pm

Sounder » Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:28 pm wrote:
For the record, after googling Humanism for a refresher, and talking with my family physician, I am definitely not anti-humanism.


Good to have that confirmed by the proper authority.


About all I can say about what you are, brekin, is that you pass a Turing test. I don't know you.

Your still unacknowledged and possibly unrecognized fallacy is to confuse a comment about your works with one about you, some person (presumably) I don't know.

It may be painful to hear that others dislike or find your work odious, but this comment was about your work, which was not censored, and your comparison of my reception of it to that experienced by Chekhov, whose subtlety, empathy and acknowledgment of ambiguity were such that his works were embraced by communists and anti-communists alike, each believing he was making their own case.

JackRiddler » Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:36 am wrote:Yes of course, why didn't I see it sooner? The crude anti-humanism, the brick-in-the face misanthropy, the contempt for empathy and the individual, the lack of subtlety, the ambiguous way you take a shit on stage, the crickets chirping in seats filled neither with communists nor anti-communists. This is the second coming of Chekhov!

PS - It means you're boring.



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Rebel Alliance
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Manson
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Re: Chekhov!

Postby Elvis » Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:42 pm

0_0 wrote:Now your co-moderator warns (strongly advises?) Sounder to cease his "malicious, inflammatory personal characterizations" for saying you sometimes come across as a "petulant adolescent that doesn't like how his friends are playing with his toys".


Sounder said more than the mild phrase you selected here. I made an effort to de-escalate a tense exchange, and I much prefer that sort of moderation to the cudgel. Sounder has apologized and rephrased his complaint—is that such an unhappy result?

Nobody "ganged up" on Sounder. I reminded him, rather nicely I thought, not to use personal attacks in his arguments.


Nobody's going to "win" a personalized flame war. Especially against Jack. :rofl2 So let's just not go there. State your arguments well and let's leave aspects like someone's imagined "butt hurt" out of it.
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Re: Chekhov!

Postby brekin » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:52 pm

Elvis wrote:
0_0 wrote:Now your co-moderator warns (strongly advises?) Sounder to cease his "malicious, inflammatory personal characterizations" for saying you sometimes come across as a "petulant adolescent that doesn't like how his friends are playing with his toys".

Sounder said more than the mild phrase you selected here. I made an effort to de-escalate a tense exchange, and I much prefer that sort of moderation to the cudgel. Sounder has apologized and rephrased his complaint—is that such an unhappy result?
Nobody "ganged up" on Sounder. I reminded him, rather nicely I thought, not to use personal attacks in his arguments.
Nobody's going to "win" a personalized flame war. Especially against Jack. :rofl2 So let's just not go there. State your arguments well and let's leave aspects like someone's imagined "butt hurt" out of it.


JackRiddler wrote:
Sounder » Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:28 pm wrote:
For the record, after googling Humanism for a refresher, and talking with my family physician, I am definitely not anti-humanism.

Good to have that confirmed by the proper authority.

About all I can say about what you are, brekin, is that you pass a Turing test. I don't know you.
Your still unacknowledged and possibly unrecognized fallacy is to confuse a comment about your works with one about you, some person (presumably) I don't know.
It may be painful to hear that others dislike or find your work odious, but this comment was about your work, which was not censored, and your comparison of my reception of it to that experienced by Chekhov, whose subtlety, empathy and acknowledgment of ambiguity were such that his works were embraced by communists and anti-communists alike, each believing he was making their own case.
JackRiddler » Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:36 am wrote:Yes of course, why didn't I see it sooner? The crude anti-humanism, the brick-in-the face misanthropy, the contempt for empathy and the individual, the lack of subtlety, the ambiguous way you take a shit on stage, the crickets chirping in seats filled neither with communists nor anti-communists. This is the second coming of Chekhov!

PS - It means you're boring.



"The Works"

Jonestown
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... 40#p688140

Tropical Heat
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... 70#p688255

Rebel Alliance
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... 85#p688310

Manson
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... 00#p688361

Legend
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... 00#p688451


Not to belabor it, (but what else I guess is this thread for then to rinse and repeat about process and talk around the infamous 5 product that most are to lazy to even look at?) but Jack you only "discovered" your criticisms of the infamous 5 after the initial confounding and many subsequent pages of not knowing how to situate them, and kept calling out for crumbs in how to. ("This is satire, right? Right? RIGHT!!? Are you really wanting to reanimate Jim Jones to run as presidential candidate?" *Not a direct quote obviously, you get my drift.) I really don't care if people find the posts in good taste, provocative, even if they likey or not. It is interesting to know, of course, and why, but I don't make my living or my identity on spur of the moment cyber decolletage. I do (obviously) get annoyed when you sweepingly put yourself on the side of the angels and declare them anti-, mis-, this or that, which by reflection one can only assume the maker of is also.
Anyways I declare victory in this flame war because no one else has yet. (which cries out for accompanying image of Leo in Once Upon A Time In Hollywood with flamethrower but God knows what that would kick off with The Ministry of Culture of the Union of Sniffy Rigorous Intuition Republics
P.S. Only the boring get bored.
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Re: Chekhov!

Postby Elvis » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:19 pm

We have a winner!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGqkj30X3uQ


Case closed.
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Re: Re: Chekhov!

Postby norton ash » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:47 pm

I think we're all post-humanist, post-rationalist, post-enlightenment, post-modernist by now, aren't we?

I keep my parasol close to me, cause there's archons overhead and underfoot.

(This is where I do the comic photo montage of Betty Boop and the Old Man of the Mountain, Jack Parsons, L Ron Hubbard, Bugs Bunny, Huysmans, Britney Spears, John the Baptist, and the battle scenes from Kurosawa's Ran.)
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Re: Re: Chekhov!

Postby cptmarginal » Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:12 pm

norton ash » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:47 pm wrote:I think we're all post-humanist, post-rationalist, post-enlightenment, post-modernist by now, aren't we?

I keep my parasol close to me, cause there's archons overhead and underfoot.

(This is where I do the comic photo montage of Betty Boop and the Old Man of the Mountain, Jack Parsons, L Ron Hubbard, Bugs Bunny, Huysmans, Britney Spears, John the Baptist, and the battle scenes from Kurosawa's Ran.)


Have you ever seen Kurosawa's painted storyboards before? I found out about this only recently:

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/akira-kuro ... oryboards/

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I still swear by his black and white movies. Watching them all in high school, mostly on VHS, was just so pivotal for me. Stray Dog, Drunken Angel, Ikiru, I Live in Fear, Sanshiro Sugata, Rashomon, Yojimbo, Seven Samurai, High & Low, etc. How can you go wrong?
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Re: Re: Chekhov!

Postby norton ash » Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:30 pm

^^^^ Beautiful!
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