Thanks to all the participants for clearly stating their positions. This will undoubtedly come in handy for future reference. Creating my own "list", if it were.
Nomo, that sounded like a genuine threat to me, unlike the "anti-semitic" threat that some people are always shrieking about; there really are people who are being interrogated by the FBI in your country for wearing the wrong t-shirt, or being dragged off to Guantanamo Bay or having their phones bugged, or their bank accounts frozen, for the crime of being Muslim, or hanging out with Muslims, or expressing sympathy for the victims of zionism, or even collecting money for those victims.
As for "Jew lister", that's so typical of the judeo-supremacist mentality, making up a whole new category of thought-crime and a new word to go with it, and childishly using it to bully others. If the list I posted was factually wrong, then accuse me of posting inaccurate information. If I made an argument you disagree with, well, let's hear yours. Otherwise, your little gang are just exposing how utterly bankrupt you are, of genuine arguments and facts.
If it were up to me, I'd say keep doing it. You're discrediting yourselves, for one thing, and bumping this thread, for another. Knock yourselves out.
Dbd, I think you were freaked out by Nomo's implied threat. From the opinions you've expressed before, I don't believe you actually want someone to "fry in a gas chamber", unlike George W. Bush, who derived great pleasure from such things during his stint as governor of Texas.
Or Ariel Sharon, aka the Butcher of Qibya, who loved getting his hands dirty doing "wet work" with Palestinian women and children. Or Ehud Olmert, who had a temper tantrum over Lebanon last summer that left more than 1300 innocent people dead, including more than 400 children, and a devastated country mined with millions of deadly cluster bombs.
Get the picture? In the zionist universe, you're better off killing many Arab men, women and children, than saying one word that the zionists don't like. That's because Israel is a light unto something, and God's whatever, and all that.
So the way it works is like this. You're not supposed to notice things. If someone says that there's an epidemic of anti-semitism, you're not supposed to notice that Jews in America are, according to every single socio-economic indicator, part of the elite. Never mind that if you're going to go on and on about discrimination against a group of people, normally you would have to back that up with concrete statistics. If those statistics show that Jews are part of the elite, you still have to believe that anti-semitism is a very serious and urgent problem and are supposed to feel very emotional about it. It's a good idea to accuse someone who posts such statistics, of being anti-semitic. If you can cry, that's best.
You are never, ever, to feel sympathy for the Palestinian victims of the zionists, let alone raise money for the families who are being starved, shot and caged like animals by the sensitive zionists.
Made up words ("Jew lister"?), claims of anti-semitism not supported by any statistics, and made up evidence. See the pattern?
False quotes shake up terror trial
Prosecutors say they'll look into a botched wiretap summary that included anti-Semitic remarks.
By Greg Krikorian, Times Staff Writer
February 28, 2007
The mystery of how and why a government wiretap summary falsely attributed anti-Jewish slurs to officials of a Muslim charity remained unanswered Tuesday as federal prosecutors pledged to look into the matter.
In court papers filed late Monday, the U.S. attorney's office in Dallas said it was trying to determine how the recently declassified summary of a 1996 FBI wiretap of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development included vitriolic language that was not found in a verbatim transcript of a recorded conversation.
"The government is attempting to determine the reason for the discrepancy between the summary and the transcript," prosecutors said, adding that officials wanted to locate the language specialist who prepared the summary.
Meanwhile, the unexplained discrepancies have brought potential controversy to the government's biggest terrorism funding case to date.
According to the discredited summary, Holy Land officials referred to Israel as "the government of the demons" and to Jews as trying "to rob as much money as possible from the American taxpayers for the illegitimate excuse of protecting and preserving the chosen people of God."
One Muslim charity official supposedly told a colleague: "Even Jesus Christ had called the Jews and their high priests … the sons of snakes and scorpions."
None of those comments was contained in a 13-page verbatim transcript of the conversation recorded April 15, 1996, by the FBI. In response, defense lawyers demanded declassification of large portions of the government's documents in the case.
On Monday, federal prosecutors argued that the discrepancies were not serious enough to justify such sweeping declassifications.
Five years ago, authorities shut down what was then the nation's largest Muslim charity on grounds that it was a fundraising front for the Palestinian group Hamas, which the U.S. considers a terrorist organization. In 2004, federal prosecutors charged seven former Holy Land officials, six of them U.S. citizens, with sending money to overseas charities controlled by Hamas, an accusation they deny.
Defense attorneys asked U.S. District Judge A. Joe Fish to declassify 10 years worth of wiretapped conversations and faxes after discovering the faulty summary among the first batch they reviewed.
Without declassifying the government's evidence in the case, defense attorneys argued, they would have no way of knowing whether other documents had discrepancies or inaccuracies because the classified originals of documents could not be shared with their clients.
In response, government prosecutors said it was "an overreaction" to extrapolate that all of the government summaries were useless on the basis of discrepancies found in one set of documents.
Prosecutors also said the contested summary, while including some language not found in the transcript, "does not otherwise misrepresent the substance of the conversation" among the Holy Land officials.
Defense attorneys, who declined to comment Tuesday, have argued that the government summary "fundamentally distorted" the conversation by attributing "an anti-Semitic diatribe" to the foundation officials.
The lead prosecutor in the case said there would be no comment beyond court filings.
In the meantime, defense attorneys filed a new request with the judge to gain access to government documents they contend will show the U.S. Agency for International Development has funded or worked with organizations that are linked to the same overseas' charities allegedly controlled by Hamas and named in the indictment.