The Media Zionism and 9-11

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Postby philipacentaur » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:23 pm

Frankly, philipacentaur, I'm surprised. I thought you were being sarcastic when you called me a "Jew-lister", because I had a higher opinion of you than to think you would fall for such idiotic agit-prop. Go figure. Glad you cleared that up.

Okay, let me state it in unequivocal terms: You are a Jew Lister. Agit-prop? Give me a fucking break.

Now I'm a "Zionist"? WTF?
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Postby darkbeforedawn » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:35 pm

Dreams End--
Nomo openly threatened us with a "list" of our names.
Now exactly what is that supposed to mean?
If it is a joke it is not very funny given the camps are under construction as we speak....and another "terror" attack is just around the corner.
I've blown my cover a million times and in front of crowds of 800 people. It's too late for me. But as for you other posters--
Kiss up to Dreams End and Nomo and Joe and Phill before they send you away or whatever it is Nomo plans to do with the little list he has collected.
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Postby philipacentaur » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:41 pm

darkbeforedawn wrote:Dreams End--
Nomo openly threatened us with a "list" of our names.
Now exactly what is that supposed to mean?
If it is a joke it is not very funny given the camps are under construction as we speak....and another "terror" attack is just around the corner.
I've blown my cover a million times and in front of crowds of 800 people. It's too late for me. But as for you other posters--
Kiss up to Dreams End and Nomo and Joe and Phill before they send you away or whatever it is Nomo plans to do with the little list he has collected.

Camps? Will there be crafts, too? Around which corner is the "terror" attack lurking? Do you have some "insider" information?
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Postby nomo » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:41 pm

darkbeforedawn wrote:I hope they fry in a gas chamber.


Well, at the very least, you remain in character.
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Postby nomo » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:47 pm

darkbeforedawn wrote:Dreams End--
Nomo openly threatened us with a "list" of our names.
Now exactly what is that supposed to mean?
If it is a joke it is not very funny given the camps are under construction as we speak....and another "terror" attack is just around the corner.
I've blown my cover a million times and in front of crowds of 800 people. It's too late for me. But as for you other posters--
Kiss up to Dreams End and Nomo and Joe and Phill before they send you away or whatever it is Nomo plans to do with the little list he has collected.


You are hilarious. Or, you would be hilarious if you weren't so odious at the same time. My, my, telling myself to keep a mental list of the outed anti-semites on this board was that threatening to you?

Don't worry buddy, I won't share the list with my Jewish overlords or my bosses at Langley. Your despicable little secret is safe with me.
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Postby orz » Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:47 pm

Dream's End, Orz, Professor Pan and philipacentaur, you all seem so excited, you apparently think that the accusation of "anti-semitism!!" is the Excalibur of debate, annihilating whomever you attack with it.

I think nothing of the sort. Just think that you're a nut, and that OMG THE JEWS CONTROL AMERIKKKA!! is moronic and a total joke.
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Postby slimmouse » Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:10 pm

nomo wrote:My, my, telling myself to keep a mental list of the outed anti-semites on this board was that threatening to you?



Theres gonna be mucho scribbling of lists going on here.

One team composing a list of "anti semites"

The others composing a list of "Zionist sympathisers and apologists"

Instead of everyone focusing on the collective crowd of the most despicable criminals ( Liars thieves and murderers) involved in the process, irrespective of "race" - Whatever that actually means

Gotta hand it to those "good religious books" and their authors aintya ?

:lol:
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Postby philipacentaur » Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:22 pm

Theres gonna be mucho scribbling of lists going on here.

One team composing a list of "anti semites"

The others composing a list of "Zionist sympathisers and apologists"

I've noticed that the people most prone to pulling out the "Hegelian dialectic" as an example of how the nebulous "PTB" operate sure seem to enjoy putting it into practice themselves.
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Postby slimmouse » Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:43 pm

philipacentaur wrote:
Theres gonna be mucho scribbling of lists going on here.

One team composing a list of "anti semites"

The others composing a list of "Zionist sympathisers and apologists"

I've noticed that the people most prone to pulling out the "Hegelian dialectic" as an example of how the nebulous "PTB" operate sure seem to enjoy putting it into practice themselves.


Except to say of course that some of us prefer to use dialect itself, as opposed to the nefarious PTB who use your money to Bomb humanity towards their interpretation of absolute synthesis.

Not enough dialect in that for me.

Sticks and stones......
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Postby AlicetheKurious » Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:47 pm

Thanks to all the participants for clearly stating their positions. This will undoubtedly come in handy for future reference. Creating my own "list", if it were.


Nomo, that sounded like a genuine threat to me, unlike the "anti-semitic" threat that some people are always shrieking about; there really are people who are being interrogated by the FBI in your country for wearing the wrong t-shirt, or being dragged off to Guantanamo Bay or having their phones bugged, or their bank accounts frozen, for the crime of being Muslim, or hanging out with Muslims, or expressing sympathy for the victims of zionism, or even collecting money for those victims.

As for "Jew lister", that's so typical of the judeo-supremacist mentality, making up a whole new category of thought-crime and a new word to go with it, and childishly using it to bully others. If the list I posted was factually wrong, then accuse me of posting inaccurate information. If I made an argument you disagree with, well, let's hear yours. Otherwise, your little gang are just exposing how utterly bankrupt you are, of genuine arguments and facts.

If it were up to me, I'd say keep doing it. You're discrediting yourselves, for one thing, and bumping this thread, for another. Knock yourselves out.

Dbd, I think you were freaked out by Nomo's implied threat. From the opinions you've expressed before, I don't believe you actually want someone to "fry in a gas chamber", unlike George W. Bush, who derived great pleasure from such things during his stint as governor of Texas.

Or Ariel Sharon, aka the Butcher of Qibya, who loved getting his hands dirty doing "wet work" with Palestinian women and children. Or Ehud Olmert, who had a temper tantrum over Lebanon last summer that left more than 1300 innocent people dead, including more than 400 children, and a devastated country mined with millions of deadly cluster bombs.

Get the picture? In the zionist universe, you're better off killing many Arab men, women and children, than saying one word that the zionists don't like. That's because Israel is a light unto something, and God's whatever, and all that.

So the way it works is like this. You're not supposed to notice things. If someone says that there's an epidemic of anti-semitism, you're not supposed to notice that Jews in America are, according to every single socio-economic indicator, part of the elite. Never mind that if you're going to go on and on about discrimination against a group of people, normally you would have to back that up with concrete statistics. If those statistics show that Jews are part of the elite, you still have to believe that anti-semitism is a very serious and urgent problem and are supposed to feel very emotional about it. It's a good idea to accuse someone who posts such statistics, of being anti-semitic. If you can cry, that's best.

You are never, ever, to feel sympathy for the Palestinian victims of the zionists, let alone raise money for the families who are being starved, shot and caged like animals by the sensitive zionists.

Made up words ("Jew lister"?), claims of anti-semitism not supported by any statistics, and made up evidence. See the pattern?


False quotes shake up terror trial

Prosecutors say they'll look into a botched wiretap summary that included anti-Semitic remarks.

By Greg Krikorian, Times Staff Writer

February 28, 2007

The mystery of how and why a government wiretap summary falsely attributed anti-Jewish slurs to officials of a Muslim charity remained unanswered Tuesday as federal prosecutors pledged to look into the matter.

In court papers filed late Monday, the U.S. attorney's office in Dallas said it was trying to determine how the recently declassified summary of a 1996 FBI wiretap of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development included vitriolic language that was not found in a verbatim transcript of a recorded conversation.

"The government is attempting to determine the reason for the discrepancy between the summary and the transcript," prosecutors said, adding that officials wanted to locate the language specialist who prepared the summary.

Meanwhile, the unexplained discrepancies have brought potential controversy to the government's biggest terrorism funding case to date.

According to the discredited summary, Holy Land officials referred to Israel as "the government of the demons" and to Jews as trying "to rob as much money as possible from the American taxpayers for the illegitimate excuse of protecting and preserving the chosen people of God."

One Muslim charity official supposedly told a colleague: "Even Jesus Christ had called the Jews and their high priests … the sons of snakes and scorpions."

None of those comments was contained in a 13-page verbatim transcript of the conversation recorded April 15, 1996, by the FBI. In response, defense lawyers demanded declassification of large portions of the government's documents in the case.

On Monday, federal prosecutors argued that the discrepancies were not serious enough to justify such sweeping declassifications.

Five years ago, authorities shut down what was then the nation's largest Muslim charity on grounds that it was a fundraising front for the Palestinian group Hamas, which the U.S. considers a terrorist organization. In 2004, federal prosecutors charged seven former Holy Land officials, six of them U.S. citizens, with sending money to overseas charities controlled by Hamas, an accusation they deny.

Defense attorneys asked U.S. District Judge A. Joe Fish to declassify 10 years worth of wiretapped conversations and faxes after discovering the faulty summary among the first batch they reviewed.

Without declassifying the government's evidence in the case, defense attorneys argued, they would have no way of knowing whether other documents had discrepancies or inaccuracies because the classified originals of documents could not be shared with their clients.

In response, government prosecutors said it was "an overreaction" to extrapolate that all of the government summaries were useless on the basis of discrepancies found in one set of documents.

Prosecutors also said the contested summary, while including some language not found in the transcript, "does not otherwise misrepresent the substance of the conversation" among the Holy Land officials.

Defense attorneys, who declined to comment Tuesday, have argued that the government summary "fundamentally distorted" the conversation by attributing "an anti-Semitic diatribe" to the foundation officials.

The lead prosecutor in the case said there would be no comment beyond court filings.

In the meantime, defense attorneys filed a new request with the judge to gain access to government documents they contend will show the U.S. Agency for International Development has funded or worked with organizations that are linked to the same overseas' charities allegedly controlled by Hamas and named in the indictment.

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Postby nomo » Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:28 pm

AlicetheKurious wrote:Nomo, that sounded like a genuine threat to me, unlike the "anti-semitic" threat that some people are always shrieking about


Wow, you're really over-reacting here. And yet the list of Jews you posted was somehow only informative and benign? You're so full of it.

But rest assured, I've got better things to do than keeping track of the toxic opinions of certain posters here. If anything, I hope that my remark serves as reminder to people here that even though we're all anonymous, by participating here we do go "on the record", even if only in the eyes of our fellow participants.

That's a fact, not a threat. But something to keep in mind nonetheless.
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Postby sunny » Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:31 pm

Oh Alice, once again you will be ignored unless you say something they can ridicule. That list was a mistake insofar as it made you an easy target.

None of us proles could do anything about or to the people on the list of Jewish (mostly billionaire) media elites, nor would we want to.


dbd expressed a wish that murderous elites meet with justice. In case some of you didn't know, the gas chamber is a tool of the justice system. So far as I know, dbd is neither an officer of the court, nor is she an official with power to carry out such a judgement.

However NOMO HAS OMINOUSLY THREATENED TO MAKE A LIST OF ORDINARY PEOPLE RIGHT HERE ON THIS BOARD. What do you intend to do with that list nomo? Or are we supposed to guess? Alice is a "Jew lister" who made a list, but you just implicitly threatened people with a "list." I guess it's ok when you do it. Which people are going on your list, nomo? Those who disagree with your views? Does that remind you of any particular political party, nomo?

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Postby nomo » Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:32 pm

AlicetheKurious wrote:If the list I posted was factually wrong, then accuse me of posting inaccurate information.


Even if the list was factually right, you failed to indicate how it matters. You explicitly suggested that the mere fact that so many people in Hollywood and Washington and the media are Jews somehow is meaningful beyond insinuating they must all be part of some secret cabal intent on ruling the world and enslaving us all or somesuch.
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Postby philipacentaur » Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:37 pm

If the list I posted was factually wrong, then accuse me of posting inaccurate information.

You posted a list of successful Jewish people on a thread bearing the title, "The Media Zionism and 9-11" -- post all the purple wallpaper you want; it still won't change the fact that you made such an insidious conflation. Factually wrong? That's obviously not the issue, and you damn well know it. Are all of those people Jewish and involved in the media? Probably -- so what? Am I a "Zionist" for taking offense to this sort of bullshit? You and several others seem to think so, and now I guess I'm somehow in a "gang" with the others who disagree with your oversimplifications and dangerous reductions.

What was your point? The media is biased? Some Jewish people are successful? Holy shit! Really?
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Postby nomo » Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:38 pm

sunny wrote:NOMO HAS OMINOUSLY THREATENED TO MAKE A LIST OF ORDINARY PEOPLE RIGHT HERE ON THIS BOARD.


Oh... give me a break already.

I was merely poking fun at the "listmania" featured in this thread.

You know, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean... Never mind.
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