What is Madman of Tripoli's fate?

[jingofever]

Gaddafi’s death year predicted by 80s sitcom

In the clip, which was first posted on Reddit, a newly-dead Gaddafi arrives in the afterlife for his judgment by St. Peter. There, he’s sent to hell with the punishment that he will spend eternity wired as a human bomb that will blow up every two minutes. The date? July 29, 2011. “Second Chance” was only 83 days late.

[seemslikeadream]

What is Madman of Tripoli's fate?

You can see it in very graphic detail here:



(Don't be ashamed, SLAD - enjoy.)

I guess you missed my previous post ....or you are ignoring it to suit your fancy...but try as you might you will not put words in my mouth...you will not misrepresent my opinion..

AGAIN

To clarify my position on this

1. Yes I know he didn't do Lockerbie

2. I am not dancing on his grave

3. He is a murderer...torturer

4. I have no sympathy for him

5. Yes I called him a madman....John Pilger called him a mad dog for christ sake!

6. Yes he was taken out by others....just as corrupt and evil

7. I, in no way condone the videos and photos of his death being used on the TV and internet

8. He was evil, he did evil things, and no amount of good that he did can take away the horror he bestowed on others..his own people.....AND he DID commit atrocities...he was no saint

9. I, in no way condone the way he was murdered...I have no control of that

10. One must remember and consider the people of Libya when arguing for political correctness, "I think it was horrible how they murdered him"....that only diminishes the sorrow, the hell he placed on his victims.

11. I would feel the same way about any other person who committed crimes against humanity...live by the sword...die by the sword. That is out of my control or empathic concern, feelings of compassion...I have no time to waste on him when there are others so much more deserving....I don't have that much time on this earth to do that...there are too many good people on this earth for me to take up any feelings for him....

12. I do not advocate murder by ANYONE

[lupercal]

8. He was evil, he did evil things, and no amount of good that he did can take away the horror he bestowed on others..his own people.....AND he DID commit atrocities

According to whom? NPR? The BBC? CNN? Justin Raimondo? Noam frickin' Chomsky? When are you going to learn you can't believe every talking head on the telly for pete's sake?

[seemslikeadream]

8. He was evil, he did evil things, and no amount of good that he did can take away the horror he bestowed on others..his own people.....AND he DID commit atrocities

According to whom? NPR? The BBC? CNN? Justin Raimondo? Noam frickin' Chomsky? When are you going to learn you can't believe every talking head on the telly for pete's sake?

My answer to that has already been posted....TWICE....look it up...


The International Criminal Court

International Coalition For The Responsibility To Protect

Physicians for Human Rights

Human Rights Watch

Emergencies director Peter Bouckaert

c. Public Executions of Civilians in the 1980′s, by way of example -

1 – Omar Ali Debub (teacher and the university students participated in the demonstrations in January 1976): executed by hanging on 6 April 1977 in front of the Socialist Union building in Benghazi
2 – Mohammed Bin Saud Al-Tayeb (teacher and the university students participated in the demonstrations in January 1976): executed by hanging on 6 April 1977 in front of the Socialist Union building in Benghazi
3 – Ahmed Fouad Fathallah (an Egyptian): executed by hanging on 6 April 1977 the port of Benghazi Sea
4 – Saleh Ali al-Zarouk Al-Nawal (teacher): April 1982 was executed in prison
5 – Mohammed Muhatthab Ihfaf (college student) (due to membership of Hizb ut-Tahrir): Hanged on April 7, 1983 in the Faculty of Engineering at the University of Tripoli
6 – Nimr Khaled Khamis (Palestinian teacher) (due to membership of Hizb ut-Tahrir): Executed by hanging in front of students on 7 April 1983 al-Fatih secondary school in Ajdabiyya
7 – Nasser Mohammad Sares (Palestinian teacher) – (due to membership of Hizb ut-Tahrir): Executed by hanging in front of students on 7 April 1983 al-Fatih secondary school in Ajdabiyya
8 – Ali Ahmed Awadallah (Palestinian teacher) – (due to membership of Hizb ut-Tahrir): Executed by hanging in front of students on 7 April 1983 al-Fatih secondary school in Ajdabiyya
9 – Hasan Bader Al Badi (Palestinian teacher) – (due to membership of Hizb ut-Tahrir): Executed by hanging in front of students on 7 April 1983 al-Fatih secondary school in Ajdabiyya
11 – Hassan Ahmad al-Kurdi (student) -(due to membership of Hizb ut-Tahrir): April 1984 was executed in prison

12 – Abdullah Abu al-Qasim Msallati (student) – (due to membership of Hizb ut Tahrir): April 1984 executed secretly in prison without trial
13 – Rashid Mansour Kaabar (college student) – it was claimed that he was from the followers of Sheikh Al-Bishti – executed by hanging on 16 April 1984 in Tripoli, Faculty of Pharmacy
14 – Hafidh al-Madani (college student): executed by hanging on 16 April 1984 at the Faculty of Agriculture
15 – Mustafa al-Nouweiri: executed by hanging on 21 April 1984 at the University of Benghazi

d. Assassinations carried out abroad in the 1980′s, by way of example:

1 – Mohamed Mustafa Ramadan (radio reporter, apparently due to his membership of Hizb ut Tahrir): 11 April 1980 he was assassinated outside the mosque after Friday prayers in London
2 – Mahmoud Abdel-Salam Nafi (lawyer): 21 April 1980, was assassinated in Britain
3 – Arif Abdul Jalil (businessman): 19 April 1980, was assassinated in Rome
4 – Abdul Latif alMuntasir (businessman): 21 April 1980, was assassinated in Beirut
5 – Gabriel Abdel Razek al-Dinaly (a police officer and a popular poet): 6 April 1985, was assassinated in Bonn, Germany

[lupercal]

Yes I'm talking about your answer, look it up. The point is you believe whatever the hell you want to believe and you've never bothered to discriminate between information and propaganda and I don't imagine you ever will. Anyway the point has been made several times so there's no need to kick a dead horse. Long and short: if the ICC or any other international tribunal was remotely interested in actual justice it wouldn't be Egyptians and Libyans on the docket and that's a fact.

[seemslikeadream]

Yes I'm talking about your answer, look it up. The point is you believe whatever the hell you want to believe and you've never bothered to discriminate between information and propaganda and I don't imagine you ever will. Anyway the point has been made several times so there's no need to kick a dead horse. Long and short: if the ICC or any other international tribunal was remotely interested in actual justice it wouldn't be Egyptians and Libyans on the docket and that's a fact.

According to whom? NPR? The BBC? CNN? Justin Raimondo? Noam frickin' Chomsky? When are you going to learn you can't believe every talking head on the telly for pete's sake?

None of those are in my answer...what more do you want? Again my answer is

The International Criminal Court

International Coalition For The Responsibility To Protect

Physicians for Human Rights

Human Rights Watch

Emergencies director Peter Bouckaert

c. Public Executions of Civilians in the 1980′s, by way of example -

1 – Omar Ali Debub (teacher and the university students participated in the demonstrations in January 1976): executed by hanging on 6 April 1977 in front of the Socialist Union building in Benghazi
2 – Mohammed Bin Saud Al-Tayeb (teacher and the university students participated in the demonstrations in January 1976): executed by hanging on 6 April 1977 in front of the Socialist Union building in Benghazi
3 – Ahmed Fouad Fathallah (an Egyptian): executed by hanging on 6 April 1977 the port of Benghazi Sea
4 – Saleh Ali al-Zarouk Al-Nawal (teacher): April 1982 was executed in prison
5 – Mohammed Muhatthab Ihfaf (college student) (due to membership of Hizb ut-Tahrir): Hanged on April 7, 1983 in the Faculty of Engineering at the University of Tripoli
6 – Nimr Khaled Khamis (Palestinian teacher) (due to membership of Hizb ut-Tahrir): Executed by hanging in front of students on 7 April 1983 al-Fatih secondary school in Ajdabiyya
7 – Nasser Mohammad Sares (Palestinian teacher) – (due to membership of Hizb ut-Tahrir): Executed by hanging in front of students on 7 April 1983 al-Fatih secondary school in Ajdabiyya
8 – Ali Ahmed Awadallah (Palestinian teacher) – (due to membership of Hizb ut-Tahrir): Executed by hanging in front of students on 7 April 1983 al-Fatih secondary school in Ajdabiyya
9 – Hasan Bader Al Badi (Palestinian teacher) – (due to membership of Hizb ut-Tahrir): Executed by hanging in front of students on 7 April 1983 al-Fatih secondary school in Ajdabiyya
11 – Hassan Ahmad al-Kurdi (student) -(due to membership of Hizb ut-Tahrir): April 1984 was executed in prison

12 – Abdullah Abu al-Qasim Msallati (student) – (due to membership of Hizb ut Tahrir): April 1984 executed secretly in prison without trial
13 – Rashid Mansour Kaabar (college student) – it was claimed that he was from the followers of Sheikh Al-Bishti – executed by hanging on 16 April 1984 in Tripoli, Faculty of Pharmacy
14 – Hafidh al-Madani (college student): executed by hanging on 16 April 1984 at the Faculty of Agriculture
15 – Mustafa al-Nouweiri: executed by hanging on 21 April 1984 at the University of Benghazi

d. Assassinations carried out abroad in the 1980′s, by way of example:

1 – Mohamed Mustafa Ramadan (radio reporter, apparently due to his membership of Hizb ut Tahrir): 11 April 1980 he was assassinated outside the mosque after Friday prayers in London
2 – Mahmoud Abdel-Salam Nafi (lawyer): 21 April 1980, was assassinated in Britain
3 – Arif Abdul Jalil (businessman): 19 April 1980, was assassinated in Rome
4 – Abdul Latif alMuntasir (businessman): 21 April 1980, was assassinated in Beirut
5 – Gabriel Abdel Razek al-Dinaly (a police officer and a popular poet): 6 April 1985, was assassinated in Bonn, Germany

[lupercal]

^ Fine, but if "Public Executions of Civilians in the 1980′s" are foreign invasion-worthy offenses, when shall we expect the NATO bombing to commence in Arkansas and Texas? You see the problem?


p.s. it's actually an interesting issue that deserves a thoughtful response, i.e. what exactly "ïnternational law" is and does, and this isn't it, but I'll get to it.

[seemslikeadream]

^ Fine, but if "Public Executions of Civilians in the 1980′s" are foreign invasion-worthy offenses, when shall we expect the NATO bombing to commence in Arkansas and Texas? You see the problem?


p.s. it's actually an interesting issue that deserves a thoughtful response, i.e. what exactly "ïnternational law" is and does, and this isn't it, but I'll get to it.

I did not say nor did I ever advocate for the foreign invasion of any country...we are discussing the death of Gaddafi and how karmic it was....at least that's what I thought...but my mouth is so full of other people's words it can get a bit confusing....

you see the problem?

[AlicetheKurious]

....you see the problem?

Yeah, actually I do, slad: you're on the receiving end of a lot of the disgust and frustration that have been provoked by the sickening blood-fest and ugly triumphalism surrounding Qaddafi's brutal assassination. Unfortunately, you're one of the very few here whose condemnation has been tempered with the implication that justice, somehow, has been served by this savage lynching; ergo, you've made yourself a convenient target for lack of a more appropriate one. Frankly, slad, nobody's willing to listen to your explanation of how you're not really aligning yourself with Hillary and all those other monsters who have painted themselves with blood and danced the victory dance around Qaddafi's pulverized remains.

Subtleties and nuance have a way of getting ditched but fast, by frightened and angry people seeking catharsis. You know how mobs can be.

[semper occultus]

...whilst my breakfast does churn disagreeably at the efforts to paint ole' Uncle Muammar as some sort of :

type-figure the idea that this mass bombing campaign was undertaken because of his unfortunate disregard for the rights of his people is....somewhat beyond the bounds of credulity

[lupercal]

Subtleties and nuance have a way of getting ditched but fast, by frightened and angry people seeking catharsis. You know how mobs can be.

There may be some truth to that Alice but three people on a chat board hardly constitute a "frightened and angry" mob so maybe it's better that we speak for ourselves. For my part I've already made my point clear re SLaD so I'll only add that "karmic" suggests some kind of just desserts and the spectacle of Gaddafi's assassination was neither just nor deserved by any human or any beast either for that matter. I posted a few vids and links on my freeboard in case anyone would like further amplification.

semper: I don't know if Stalin is the best comparison. From what I've seen Gaddafi was better than that and if he hadn't been would he have been hounded by superpowers for four decades?

‘Gaddafi murder – international crime’

[Searcher08]

I found the most reflection-inducing thing the film of the charismatic young Gadaffi on top of a tank, having just organised the overthrow of the monarchy - his descent into Idi Amin style brutality seemed a long way off at that point.

[seemslikeadream]

I found the most reflection-inducing thing the film of the charismatic young Gadaffi on top of a tank, having just organised the overthrow of the monarchy - his descent into Idi Amin style brutality seemed a long way off at that point.

That big wheel spins, the hair thins
People forget




The sun shines
And people forget
The spray flies as the speedboat glides
And people forget
Forget they're hiding
The girls smile
And people forget
The snow packs as the skier tracks
And people forget
Forget they're hiding.

Behind an eminence front
Eminence front - It's a put on.

Come on join the party
Dress to kill
Won't you come and join the party
Dress to kill.

The drinks flow
People forget
That big wheel spins, the hair thins
People forget
Forget they're hiding
The news slows
People forget
The shares crash, hopes are dashed
People forget
Forget they're hiding.

Behind an eminence front
Eminence front - it's a put on
Come on join the party
Dress to
Come on join the party
Dress to
Come on join the party
Dress to
Come on join the party
Dress to kill
Dress yourself, dressed to kill.

[seemslikeadream]

...whilst my breakfast does churn disagreeably at the efforts to paint ole' Uncle Muammar as some sort of :

type-figure the idea that this mass bombing campaign was undertaken because of his unfortunate disregard for the rights of his people is....somewhat beyond the bounds of credulity

Whoomp There It Is...Whoomp chak a laka chack a laka chak a laka chak a

[seemslikeadream]

....you see the problem?

Yeah, actually I do, slad: you're on the receiving end of a lot of the disgust and frustration that have been provoked by the sickening blood-fest and ugly triumphalism surrounding Qaddafi's brutal assassination. Unfortunately, you're one of the very few here whose condemnation has been tempered with the implication that justice, somehow, has been served by this savage lynching; ergo, you've made yourself a convenient target for lack of a more appropriate one. Frankly, slad, nobody's willing to listen to your explanation of how you're not really aligning yourself with Hillary and all those other monsters who have painted themselves with blood and danced the victory dance around Qaddafi's pulverized remains.

Subtleties and nuance have a way of getting ditched but fast, by frightened and angry people seeking catharsis. You know how mobs can be.

Thank you Alice....and yes mobs can be....humorless at times also. This all started cause I called him a madman....apparently I should have used the word "Odd"... would have saved a whole lot of angst....he always said he would die on Libyan soil, didn't he? He was kinda a smart guy, wasn't he? He probably would have known what that meant, wouldn't he?


ps....did he have any doings in Sierra Leone? From everything I've read seems to be the case