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Hitler and Protocols

Postby Not Zundel » Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:36 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>What are "The Protocols<br>of the Elders of Zion"?<br><br>The war that the Nazis waged against the Jews was not just a war of physical annihilation. It was an international war of propaganda to convince the rest of the world of the evils of Judaism. One of the primary weapons that the Third Reich used for this international effort was a forgery known as "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion." It is claimed that the Protocols are the minutes of a meeting of Jewish leaders at the first Zionist Congress in Basel, Switzerland, in 1897, in which Jews plotted to take over the world. The Protocols are a complete forgery most of which was copied from an obscure satire on Napoleon III by Maurice Joly called "Dialogue aux Enfers entre Montesquieu et Machiavel" ("A Dialogue in Hell Between Montesquieu and Machiavelli"<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> .<br><br>The story of the Protocols starts with a chapter in a novel called "Biarritz" by a German bureaucrat named Hermann Goedesche writing under the pseudonym "Sir John Retcliffe" (sometimes altered to "Sir John Readcliffe" in later literature). Goedesche was an anti-Semite in the middle of the 19th century who believed in a conspiracy between Jews and Masons to dominate the world. One chapter of the novel, titled "In the Jewish Cemetery in Prague" relates a speech by a Rabbi named Eichhorn or Reichhorn which reveals a Jewish plot against European civilization. Although it was part of a novel, it was printed separately as an anti-Semitic pamphlet in Russia as early as 1872. It was widely circulated as a truthful account for the rest of the 19th century and represents the precursor of the Protocols. It is still occasionally attached to current editions of the Protocols.<br><br>The Protocols were actually written in Paris sometime between 1895 and 1899 by an agent of the Russian secret police Pytor Ivanovich Rachovsky, who is known to have forged other documents for the various intrigues in which he took part. While the Protocols are overtly anti-Semitic it is believed that the Russian minister of finance, Sergei Witte, was also a target of the Protocols. At the time Witte was the leader of the movement to modernize Russia and limit the influence of the old Russian aristocracy. The Protocols attempt to discredit Witte's reforms of the Russian economy by linking Witte's program to a Jewish plot to destroy western civilization.<br><br>The Protocols, as they are usually published, are divided into twenty-six separate chapters each of which are a lecture on how to subvert western civilization, although some versions, including the first in Englsh, did not have this division. The "program" set forth in the Protocols is vague and generalized. The Protocols advise, for example: "Therefore in governing the world the best results are obtained by violence and intimidation, and not by academic discussions." (Protocol 1). Some are just silly. One Protocol (23) advocates making people unhappy by passing laws prohibiting drunkenness. The Protocols are vigorously anti-democratic as well. Protocol 25 advises: "Several members of the seed of David will prepare Kings and their successors, who will be elected not by right of inheritance but by their own capabilities. These successors will be initiated in our secret political mysteries and plans of governing, taking great care that no one else should acquire them."<br><br>The parochial political controversies that sparked the writing of the Protocols was soon forgotten but the anti-Semitism remained. The Protocols were first published in full by Sergei Nilus, another agent of the Russian secret police, in 1905. Nilus, who might have been one of the authors of the Protocols, became their main promoter; he circulated several editions of the Protocols in Russia as part of an campaign of anti-Semitism. While the early publications of the Protocols were in Russia, it was spread to the rest of Europe by Russian expatriates after the fall of the Tsars in 1917, where they claimed that it provided proof that the Jews were behind the Russian Revolution. Another expatriate Russian, Boris Brasol, brought it to the United States around 1920 where it became the core of Henry Ford's anti-Semitic program. By the time Nilus died in 1930, Europe had been saturated by millions of copies of the Protocols. It had also been exposed as a forgery.<br><br>                <br><br>The Protocols reached Germany sometime around 1918. One of those who brought them to Germany was Alfred Rosenberg, an Estonian of German heritage who first encountered the Protocols when a student in Moscow. According to Rosenberg a stranger entered his room, placed the book on the table and silently departed. Whether his tale was true or not, Rosenberg soon became an anti-Semite convinced of the authenticity of the Protocols. When he fled Raval (now Talinn) in the civil war that followed the Russian Revolution, he took the Protocols with him.<br><br>In Germany Rosenberg soon became involved with a mystical group that was a precursor to National Socialism known as the Thule Society where he frequently lectured about the Protocols. Rosenberg was there to explain the mysteries of the Protocols when Adolf Hitler appeared on the stage of right-wing politics in 1921. Rosenberg was at Hitler's side during the attempted putsch in Munich in 1923. By then the Protocols had become one of the central themes of Nazi thought. The Protocols were the basis for much of Mein Kampf, and Rosenberg's book The Myth of the 20th Century became the most important exposition of Nazi philosophy.<br><br>It was already known that the Protocols were a forgery when Hitler received his first copy. The exposure of the forgery began as soon as the<br>        <br>        London Times headline<br>        <br><br>London Times,<br>August 16, 1921<br>        <br>Protocols began to appear in western Europe but the coup de grâce occurred in 1921, one year after the Protocols were first published in Great Britain. In August, 1921, the Times of London printed a devastating exposure of the forgery by printing extracts from the Protocols side-by-side with the passages from Joly's book that had been plagiarized. From that point, the Protocols were dismissed by thinking people everywhere. It did not, however, stop the wide circulation of the Protocols by Russian expatriates and later by Hitler. Even the decision by a Swiss court after consultation with three experts (one appointed by the publisher) in May, 1935 did not affect the distribution of the Protocols by the Third Reich.<br><br>The anti-Semitic agitation of the Nazis was international in scope. The Protocols was the chief weapons used in the propaganda campaign against the Jews. Under the direction of Joseph Goebbels, the Protocols were translated into many other languages and the world was flooded with cheap editions of the forged document. With Henry Ford's "The International Jew" (also based in large part on the Protocols), it became the staple text for the anti-Semitism exported by the Nazis around the world. In Mein Kampf, Hitler described the importance of the Protocols to his program of anti-Semitism:<br><br> ... To what extent the whole existence of this people is based on a continuous lie is shown incomparably by the Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion, so infinitely hated by the Jews. They are based on a forgery, the Frankfurter Zeitung moans and screams once every week: the best proof that they are authentic. What many Jews may do unconsciously is here consciously exposed. And that is what matters. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>It is completely indifferent from what Jewish brain these disclosures originate; the important thing is that with positively terrifying certainty they reveal the nature and activity of the Jewish people and expose their inner contexts as well as their ultimate final aims. The best criticism applied to them, however, is reality. Anyone who examines the historical development of the last hundred years from the standpoint of this book will at once understand the screaming of the Jewish press. For once this book has become the common property of a people, the Jewish menace may be considered as broken.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br> Hitler, Adolf. Mein Kampf (München: Zentralverlag der N.S.D.A.P. Franz Eher Nachf., G.M.B.H., 1935). Volume 1; Chapter XI: Nation and Race (pp. 307-308; Mannheim translation).<br><br> Wie sehr das ganze Dasein dieses Volkes auf einer fortlaufenden Lüge beruht, wird in unvergleichlicher Art in den von den Juden so unendlich gehaßten "Protokollen der Weisen von Zion" gezeigt. Sie sollen auf einer Fälschung beruhen, stöhnt immer wieder die "Frankfurter Zeitung" in die Welt hinaus: der beste Beweis dafür, daß sie echt sind. Was viele Juden unbewußt tun mögen, ist hier bewußt klargelegt. Darauf aber kommt es an. Es ist ganz gleich, aus wessen Judenkopf diese Enthüllungen stammen, maßgebend aber ist, daß sie mit geradezu grauenerregender Sicherheit das Wesen und die Tätigkeit des Judenvolkes aufdecken und in ihren inneren Zusammenhängen sowie den letzten Schlußzielen darlegen. Die beste Kritik an ihnen jedoch bildet die Wirklichkeit. Wer die geschichtliche Entwicklung der letzten hundert Jahre von den Gesichtspunkten dieses Buches aus überprüft, dem wird auch das Geschrei der jüdischen Presse sofort verständlich werden. Denn wenn dieses Buch erst einmal Gemeingut eines Volkes geworden sein wird, darf die jüdische Gefahr auch schon als gebrochen gelten.<br><br> Aus Mein Kampf: Die Protokolle der Weisen von Zion. Aus 11. Kapitel: Volk und Rasse - Erster Band: Eine Abrechnung. <br><br>Even today the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is one of the principal propaganda weapons of anti-Semitism. In the United States it continues to be circulated by the Christian Identity movement, the Ku Klux Klan and neo-Nazi groups. It is still distributed by those who deny the Holocaust as well. The Institute for Historical Review - the intellectual center of the movement denying the Holocaust - continues to sell the Protocols and it is still used to attack Jews. Ernst Zündel, who states openly that he is an admirer of Hitler and claims the Holocaust never happened, still repeats the lies of the Protocols:<br><br> Could it be that word is out that, according to the Protocols of the Wise Elders of Zion, the New World Order is soon going to be locked in place, with Israel the hub of power and the United States its dedicated slave?<br><br> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.lebensraum.org/">www.lebensraum.org/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> english/zgrams/zg1997/zg9709/970912.html <br><br>Nor is the United States the only country and English the only language where the Protocols are still being distributed as fact. The Protocols are available in virtually every European country. Translated into Arabic, the Protocols have become a standard text for anti-Semitism in the Middle East. Translated into Japanese, millions of the copies of the Protocols are still being distributed around the Pacific Rim.<br><br>"The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" has become a lie that will not die, no matter how often it is exposed as a forgery.<br>Where to start your research<br><br>Norman Cohn, "Warrant for Genocide" Serif Press (1967, 1996) is the most complete history of the Protocols.<br><br>Albert Lee, "Henry Ford and the Jews" Stein & Day (1980) explains how they were used by Henry Ford and distributed throughout the world.<br><br>Michael Barkan, "Religion and the Racist Right" University of North Carolina Press (Revised Edition; 1997) explains how the Protocols influenced the Christian Identity movement.<br><br>D. Sklar, "The Nazis and the Occult" Dorset Press (1977, 1989) explains the connection between the Thule Society and Nazi thought.<br><br>The text of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and several articles about it can be read at: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.igc.org/ddickerson/protocols.html.">www.igc.org/ddickerson/protocols.html.</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>                <br>                 <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.holocaust-history.org/short-essays/protocols.shtml">www.holocaust-history.org...cols.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Hitler and Protocols

Postby Qutb » Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:31 pm

Thanks, Not Zundel. It's interesting to see that certain posters here adopt Adolf Hitler's arguments, though they may not be aware of it:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>It is completely indifferent from what Jewish brain these disclosures originate; the important thing is that with positively terrifying certainty they reveal the nature and activity of the Jewish people and expose their inner contexts as well as their ultimate final aims. The best criticism applied to them, however, is reality. Anyone who examines the historical development of the last hundred years from the standpoint of this book will at once understand the screaming of the Jewish press. <br><br>- Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf"<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br>Remove an adjective and replace a couple of words, and voilà, this is basically the argument used by several of the most frequent posters on the RI board, or by such luminaries as Henry Makow or David Icke, on the subject of the Protocols:<br><br>"It is completely indifferent from what brain these disclosures originate; the important thing is that with positively terrifying certainty they reveal the nature and activity of the Illuminati and expose their inner contexts as well as their ultimate final aims. The best criticism applied to them, however, is reality. Anyone who examines the historical development of the last hundred years from the standpoint of this book will at once understand the screaming of the Mainstream Media." <p><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:black;font-family:century gothic;font-size:x-small;"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br></p><i></i>
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Re: Hitler and Protocols

Postby antiaristo » Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:36 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br>Michael Leeden <p></p><i></i>
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Yup. 'The Protocols' is false-flag attribution at work.

Postby Watchful Citizen » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:52 pm

Thanks for re-posting this history of ascribing a document used by ruling elite to some of the very people they tried to annihilate.<br><br>An epic and tragically perpetuated smear act that leads to blaming the victims, a psy-ops tactic that works all too well. <br><br>I first read about the French satire later used by the Russian Czar to smear Jews in Jim Marrs' book 'Rule By Secrecy' which I think does a good job of showing that deceptive control tactics have a history of being transmitted through the ages and tagged on to the wrong people, just like 'the liberal press' is actually the CIA's best cover story for psy-ops promoting militarism and hiding government atrocity..<br><br>Another scape-goating-of-Jews-as-distraction tactic is the 'Jewish banker'-meme which is meant to divert attention to from the word BANKER and put it on 'Jewish.' This is the classic magician's trick of getting people to look at the wrong hand.<br><br>The root of war and oppression-MONEY and the BANKERS who finance wars are hidden in an idealogical fog made up of a misrepresented cast of characters to keep people from seeing that elite groups, not the masses, are the sole beneficiaries of institutionalized violence as war.<br><br>I just found a new book (at Borders!) called 'U.S. Intelligence and the Nazis' which expands on many of the OSS and CIA documents released as a result of the 1998 Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act.<br>BUT this book was back in the shelves. To counter the revelation earlier this year that the CIA hired five of Adolph Eichmann's assistants, the table of 'New Non-Fiction'<br>at the front door had a book about a British lord someone-or-other who was a Nazi sympathizer.<br><br>Another case of 'look at this hand not this hand'-ism.<br>Border is filled with propaganda covering up US government crimes. It is a huge industry because there's so much to cover up. <p></p><i></i>
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qutb's 'antisemitic' ri posters

Postby ano » Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:10 pm

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qutb's 'anti-semites'

Postby ano » Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:44 pm

I cant remember reading anything here claiming the Jews have a world domination plan. I have read stuff claiming Israel has a hand in various criminal adventures. I don't see you calling out posters for being anti whatever because they write about Bush or drug corporations etc etc etc etc. Remember in iran Contra ( I think) when they substituted letters for nations of the world, for those involved in arms trade? Used up half the alphabet it seemed! (Israel was one of the the perps) The govt of Israel, the people of Israel The govt of the USA, the people of the USA. And so forth around the globe. So if there is some elite running the world or planning to, you're saying there are absolutely no Jewish members? Cause there was a holocaust and it is mean and racist to include any Jewish participation in this world-wide fiendish plan?? Maybe I havent seen these posts, maybe I misunderstand your posts, but damn - we're talking about human beings here. there were those sonder kommandos ( if that was the name, I forget right now) at the camps, the Jews who were made in charge of the others and some of whom were supposedly ruthless. By the way, I remember a site perhaps you talked about - I didnt go through the whole site because the beginning seemed to be leading down a certain path - but the beginning showed 'proof' that there were no zyklon B showers. It had a pic of the showers and 'shiowed' how they were in every way inadequte for the task of gassing the huge numbers of people reputed to them. He said the deaths were mainly due to disease. Now maybe this is true. At least at the front of the site he didnt disavow thr cruelty nor actuality of the holocaust. I don't and I dont say there was no gas. I dont know. But I guess it is possible and I am wondering if you have any info on that. It doesnt seem at first look that disease would account for that many deaths - and anyway, what about the guards, and surrounding populace? Disease there must have been, given the physical condition and crowded living and poor sanitation [ purposeful, according to a book on the German psyche ; extremely generalizing, an anal- retentive society would use this particular means to construct an 'other', a non-human victim so they could feel OK about brutalizing them] OK I will end . I rambled on a bit Just am curious about your vehement pouncing on posters who include Israel in the game. <p></p><i></i>
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