This obsession with Nazism is a Red Herring...

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This obsession with Nazism is a Red Herring...

Postby thumperton » Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:29 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I'm dead tired of talking about the "threat" and the "atrocities" committed by Nazism. When are we going to seriously address the Satanic crimes of Communism?<br><br>Nazism is dead - they lost the war. Communism on the other hand is alive and well - they WON the war but they never stopped there; the war continued and is presently raging all over the world. America is totally subverted by Communism. Should we not be addressing the global, physical, mental and spiritual threat of Communism?<br><br>Communism was and is still a Judaic/Zionist conspiracy. The Nazis decided to fight them on the Communists' terms and they fought not just for their own survival but for the survival of all Europe and the Germans - and Europe - LOST. Hence Europe's and all Western civilization's and the world's present, unprecedented degeneration, corruption and spiritual decay.<br><br>The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression By Stephane Courtois, Mark Kramer (Translator), Jonathan Murphy (Translator), Karel Bartosek, Andrzej Paczkowski, Jean-Louis Panne, Jean-Louis Margolin (Contributors); Introduction to the U.S. edition by Martin Malia Published by Harvard University Press, 1999 Originally published in France, 1997<br><br>Reviewed by Claire Wolfe<br><br>Examining the photos and reading their captions in The Black Book of Communism, you might expect the surrounding 700+ pages to contain a wail of outrage. The photos, though few, are as graphic and heart-rending as the worst from Nazi Germany.<br><br>But the text is no impassioned partisan cry. It's something more powerful than that; it's the facts. The Black Book has been called a catalog, an indictment, a prosecutorial manual against Communist crimes. It is a simply a dispassionate account - article after article - of the history of Communist power. Beginning with Leninist terror policies and concluding with the starvation produced by Afrocommunism, the historians of The Black Book list the events, tally the numbers, describe the conditions, name the names.<br><br>Their conclusion:<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>* USSR: 20 million deaths * China: 65 million deaths * Vietnam: 1 million deaths * North Korea: 2 million deaths * Cambodia: 2 million deaths * Eastern Europe: 1 million deaths * Latin America: 150,000 deaths * Africa: 1.7 million deaths * Afghanistan: 1.5 million deaths * Communist movements or parties not in power: about 10,000 deaths<br><br>Nearly 100 million deaths. Not casualties of war, but civilian slaughter. Deaths in gulags and concentration camps. Deaths from a bullet to the head. Most of all, deaths by starvation - the result either of planned famines, meted out as punishment to internal foes (as in Stalin's USSR), or unintended consequences of central policy.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>American historian R.J. Rummell has tallied similar figures in his book Death by Government. But The Black Book is different in that 1) it focuses on death and terror in Communist regimes only 2) many of its contributors were (or are still) members of the left and 3) this book touched off an international storm when it was first published in France.<br><br>The "crime" of revealing Communist crimes<br><br>Why would this scholarly book - with its "just the facts, Ma'm" approach and its extensively documented claims - ignite a firestorm?<br><br>Partly it is because many crimes of Communism have gone unexamined, due both to bias among the intelligentsia and lack of access to archives of Communist countries. As such, this book is a shock to those who haven't been paying attention.<br><br>Partly it is that in Europe, and France especially, it is still chic to identify oneself as a Communist or Socialist. This book is an embarrassment and a shame to those who have practiced "ideological self-deception."<br><br>---------------------<br><br>You want to play a numbers game? Fine:<br><br>100 million. And yes, they were mostly belivers in God; mainly Christians and Muslims.<br><br>I should add that the USSR figures are VERY conservative, cautious estimates. The real USSR figures are closer to 60 million.<br><br>Check out the EU, A Monster thread, watch the film The Bloody History of Communism, read a thread about how the Allies treated German POWs AFTER the war, not to mention the main thread on CC about Communism and who was and is behind it, GULAG&Communism Still Operational.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2411&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=0&PHPSESSID=708ed57c298b4035c07124c243d9744a" target="top">linky</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/raichu4u/wiggle.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: This obsession with Nazism is a Red Herring...

Postby Quentin Quire » Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:58 pm

Why don't you just go and troll somewhere else?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: This obsession with Nazism is a Red Herring...

Postby thumperton » Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:11 pm

I'm not trolling. I just find it ridiculous that the same people keep bringing up the strawman of neo-nazism over and over again, and how they're gonna get us BOOGA BOOGA! while everyday, we quietly fulfill all ten planks of the communist manifesto, and communist professors fill the ranks of our universities (while backed by major tax exempt foundations), propagandizing totally unmolested, because of people obsessing about the side that LOST THE WAR.<br><br><br><br>thumpy macthumperton <p></p><i></i>
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Hitting a Nerve

Postby Soulman » Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:27 pm

Impressive post by you Thumperton.<br>I wan nearly thinking of meeting you, as a result, but you live too far away.<br><br>Ever wondered why no left/communist/workers/peace/stop the war never accepts the realities and crimes of 9/11.<br><br>A question for you .........who had more idea what the war in Iraq is more about .............<br><br>The Socialist Workers Party ......or<br>Tne British National Party...........<br><br>Who is more honourable and truthful ..............<br><br>Zundel or George Galloway.............????<br>Passes the time............!!<br> <p></p><i></i>
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firepit please

Postby veritas » Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:22 pm

Goodbye. <p></p><i></i>
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The Nazi Obsession...

Postby robertdreed » Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:33 pm

...is yours, thumperton. <p></p><i></i>
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au contrare

Postby wintler » Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:50 pm

just to counter the idea that 'nazism is history..', theres a fairly dedicated troll on prussian blue thread on peakoil.com currently.<br>Hes not making any headway.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: au contrare

Postby thumperton » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:42 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>just to counter the idea that 'nazism is history..', theres a fairly dedicated troll on prussian blue thread on peakoil.com currently.<br>Hes not making any headway.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->here's a hint.<br><br>Since the powers that be control the mass media, what does it tell you when they launch a smear campaign against 'neo nazism', and instead preach the ideals of one worldism, diversity, homosexuality, interfaithism, and tolerance instead?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: au contrare

Postby anonymoose » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:48 pm

It tells me that you're a troll. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: au contrare

Postby thumperton » Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:00 am

am not <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://pichold.com/Images/Smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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thumperton...

Postby robertdreed » Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:09 am

furthermore, what's with pretending to care about Muslims or Christians? You sound as phony as a 9-shilling note. <br><br>I think it's also noteworthy that the Rigorous Intuition website and board have drawn a "fan club" of neo-Nazis, British National Front facades, and fascist mataphysicians who fancy themselves esotericists. <br><br>As to whose purpose all this might serve, my best guess is "whoever actually did the job on 9-11." The most effective result of these salvoes of odious extreme right-wing creepiness is to provide a semblance evidential grounding for those who allege an symbiotic linkage between the 9-11 skeptic movement and neofascist revivalists. <p></p><i></i>
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communism is a cold red herring

Postby rule no 1 » Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:19 am

rule no.1 in forum posting:<br><br>DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!<br><br>ps<br><br>get it communism, red, communism... heheh. oh forget it! <p></p><i></i>
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Not feeding the trolls...

Postby robertdreed » Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:25 am

is a policy I usually practice.<br><br>But, just this once, for Hallowe'en...trick or treat <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=NN_Bush_Nazi_2">www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin...ush_Nazi_2</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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interested

Postby smiths » Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:28 am

robert how do you know that the ri site and board have drawn nazi etc, sympathizers?<br> <p></p><i></i>
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I told him last night to take it the Firepit.

Postby banned » Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:29 am

Ya'll may remember in "Bambi", Thumper the bunny used to say, "If you can't say something nice about somebody, don't say anything at all."<br><br>Updated to cyberspace, that comes down to, "If you can't say something to make the troll go to the Firepit, don't say anything at all."<br><br>Wait, I broke my own rule!<br><br>Dang. <p></p><i></i>
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