RI "contributor" to the Truth Seeker?

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RI "contributor" to the Truth Seeker?

Postby Qutb » Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:48 pm

Jeff, I've noticed some of your blog posts being featured on the UK-based "Truth Seeker" website, and RI is listed as a "contributor". Other "contributors" include Robert Fisk, John Pilger, Riverbend and Dahr Jamail, so you're in good company. I somehow doubt the above-mentioned have looked very closely at the site though, or more likely not at all, if they've consented to their material being published there. <br><br>Here are some of the current lead stories on the "<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/" target="top">Truth Seeker</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->": <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>A collection of photos from Iraq</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> First publicised by the late great Joe Vialls and largely ignored by the mainstream media since then, they show that systematic rape and sexual humiliation are being used across Iraq to break the Iraqis will to resist.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br>It is perhaps not such a mystery that the mainstream media has "largely ignored" these photos, because it's immediately obvious upon viewing them that they are taken from a porn movie, and not from anywhere near Iraq. This is blatant disinfo on the part of the TS, whatever their motivation might be.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Illuminati Devil Year 666</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Texe Marrs looks at the potential for slaughter and sacrifice in the year ahead based on an examination of key dates significant for both Zionists and satanists.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>According to the Chinese, it's the year of the dog. <br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>For Whom The Bell Tolls</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> David Irving was sent to jail for denying Jewish superiority. His doom seals the reign of freedom that began with the fall of the Bastille.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Sure, whatever you say.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The Anne Frank Diary Fraud</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Not only is the “Anne Frank” diary now considered to be a fake, writes Brian Harring, the real Anne Frank's father may have even colaborated with the Nazis.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Poland will not let Iran research Holocaust</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Whether it’s a historic truth, exaggeration or fraud, Poland refuses to allow Iranian researchers to investigate the scale of the Holocaust committed on its soil in World War II<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Auschwitz For Dummies</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> As London's Lord Mayor is suspended for likening a journalist to a "concentration camp guard" and David Irving begins serving a 3 year jail sentence for questioning the Holocaust, T. Hollingsworth looks at what may, or may not, have happened at Auschwitz<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>They are just "questioning Israel", you know.<br><br>BTW, click on the category "race" in the archives, and you will learn that "<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Race is an issue that has been cynically exploited by the Illuminati, often in the guise of "anti-racism"</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->." Under this category you'll find articles with titles like "<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Hollywood pushes racial intermarriage</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->", "<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"Red" Rosa Parks: Fabricating an American Icon</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->", "<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>'Ghettopoly' is what happens when hip-hop is celebrated</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->" and "<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Jewish Involvement in Black American Affairs</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->".<br><br>The Truth Seeker also links to <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.novalight.org/" target="top">this</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> charming website.<br><br>There's more where that came from... but you get the idea. I don't know how one becomes "contributor" to the Truth Seeker - did they even ask you? My question is though, given that the field of para-political research is so easily contaminated by extremist political agendas, do you really want to lend legitimacy to a site like the Truth Seeker, which IMO clearly represents the ugly side of conspiracy theory? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: RI "contributor" to the Truth Seeker?

Postby antiaristo » Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:03 pm

How fortunate we are to be blessed by wise censors like yourself, Qutb.<br><br>Did you see what happened to Ken Livingstone in the UK?<br><br>The home of free speech and the Crusaders? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: RI "contributor" to the Truth Seeker?

Postby Dreams End » Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:04 pm

I assume that they simply list those whose posts they "borrow" as being contributors to rope in more readers.<br><br>Hey, what's that New Dawn Magazine link about? <br><br>Oh...<br><br>It is clear. Clear! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: RI "contributor" to the Truth Seeker?

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:06 pm

How did I become a "contributor"? I dunno; no one asked me. Surprised me when I saw it too. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Deal

Postby antiaristo » Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:12 pm

Tell you what, chaps.<br><br>You get Rumsfeld to release the video of the "Allies" raping children in Abu Ghraib...<br><br><br>And I will personally get the Truthseeker to remove what is untrue.<br><br><br>Deal? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: RI "contributor" to the Truth Seeker?

Postby Qutb » Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:20 pm

DE, yeah, I found the New Dawn link interesting too. Yes I see it now, very clear!<br><br>Jeff, that's what I thought, I just saw it and found it odd. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: RI "contributor" to the Truth Seeker?

Postby albion » Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:26 pm

I wonder if anyone can say whether or not the Truth Seeker has any connection with the San Diego based <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.truthseeker.com/">Truth Seeker Company Inc</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->?<br><br>In the 40's and 50s, under the editorship of Charles Lee Smith, the Truth Seeker was a prominent neo-nazi journal. They published the likes of Eustace Mullins and (I think) F.P. Yockey. They have been under different management for quite some time, and perusing their website shows that some of their current stuff looks perfectly respectable ("Our mission is to support the ideas stated in the Declaration of Independence"). But taking a look at their links and booklist, they also publish (or distribute) the likes of David Icke and Zachariah Sitchin.<br><br>I'd be interested to learn if anyone knows whether or not the two "Truth Seekers" are related. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=albion@rigorousintuition>albion</A> at: 2/25/06 6:26 pm<br></i>
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Re: RI "contributor" to the Truth Seeker?

Postby Qutb » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:18 pm

Albion, are you sure the Truth Seeker Inc. is the same TS as that Nazi journal you mentioned? <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The Truth Seeker journal began as a tabloid newspaper on September 1, 1873. The founders, D.M. Bennett and his wife Mary, stated their purpose on the masthead in these words: <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Devoted to: science, morals, free thought, free discussions, liberalism, sexual equality, labor reform, progression, free education and whatever tends to elevate and emancipate the human race. <br><br>Opposed to: priestcraft, ecclesiasticism, dogmas, creeds, false theology, superstition, bigotry, ignorance, monopolies, aristocracies, privileged classes, tyranny, oppression, and everything that degrades or burdens mankind mentally or physically.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br>The Bennetts wished to promote reason over superstition. They wanted people to believe in themselves, to be free from the concept of a vengeful god who punishes "sinners" in a burning hell. They wanted people to throw off the yoke of the clergy who view themselves as the "god-anointed" moralrulers of mankind. <br><br>Truth Seeker provides a forum wherein leading thinkers of the day present their concepts of self-reliance. <br><br>People such as Thomas Edison, Clarence Darrow, Mark Twain, Robert G.Ingersoll, Marshall Gauvin, Joseph McCabe, H.L. Mencken, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, and Margaret Sanger wrote for or gave support to the TruthSeeker. Their ideas were published both in tabloid and book form. <br><br>In 1940, Charles Smith became the fifth Editor and incorporated the Truth Seeker Company. For the next 24 years used The Truth Seeker to promote his ideology of militant atheism. <br><br>In 1964, James Hervey Johnson moved the Truth Seeker Co. from New York to San Diego, California where he continued to publish The TruthSeeker until his death in 1988. <br><br>Under the stewardship of Bonnie Lange, Truth Seeker has again become a forum for the dicussion of new ideas. We also produce books, videos and audio tapes. Please request our free catalog. In addition to being available as a journal, Truth Seeker, was the first non-technical journal to be published electronically in 1991. We have several years' worth of Back Issues online for your perusal. <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Truth Seeker focuses on matters concerning political and religious issues as well as intellectual liberation and civil liberties. If you arenew to Freethought and seek an overview, we suggest the writings of Voltaire, Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, Robert G. Ingersoll, Bertrand Russell and Mark Twain</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. They will open the doors to many more. <br><br>Truth Seeker is the world's oldest Freethought publication. Freethought is characterized by common sense, reason and a rational approach to life. We actively promote the fact that people are capable of thinking for themselves.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Doesn't sound very fascist to me, in fact it sounds entirely wholesome, if somewhat stuck in the 19th century. <br><br>But then, there are the the authors they publish, which are only these four: <br><br>David Icke <br>Andrew J. Galambos <br>Jon Rappoport <br>Zecharia Sitchin<br><br>While not exactly fascist (perhaps with the exception of David Icke), I would at least consider them "flaky" (Puzzling Photographs from Mars! Prophecies Predict the Future!). Not quite in the same division as Voltaire or Mark Twain, nor precisely befitting a journal devoted to "a rational approach to life". Weird.<br><br>I doubt they have a connection to the British Truth Seeker, though. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: RI "contributor" to the Truth Seeker?

Postby sunny » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:19 pm

_________________________________________________<br><br>A collection of photos from Iraq First publicised by the late great Joe Vialls and largely ignored by the mainstream media since then, they show that systematic rape and sexual humiliation are being used across Iraq to break the Iraqis will to resist.<br>__________________________________________________<br><br>Qutb:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>It is perhaps not such a mystery that the mainstream media has "largely ignored" these photos, because it's immediately obvious upon viewing them that they are taken from a porn movie, and not from anywhere near Iraq. This is blatant disinfo on the part of the TS, whatever their motivation might be.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br>**************************<br>Not to defend the Truth Seeker, and I haven't seen the photos in question, but maybe your contention is right Qutb, and it has something to do with this:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://tinyurl.com/lp32d">tinyurl.com/lp32d</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sunny@rigorousintuition>sunny</A> at: 2/25/06 7:22 pm<br></i>
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Re: RI "contributor" to the Truth Seeker?

Postby albion » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:52 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>are you sure the Truth Seeker Inc. is the same TS as that Nazi journal you mentioned?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Yep, same journal. They've gone through a number of different editorial identities. I just looked this up, according to Kevin Coogan they're the outfit that published the first American edition of Yockey's <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Imperium</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> in 1962. Their "high nazi" period was under the direction of Charles Lee Smith (1937-1964).<br><br>No, I haven't seen anything connecting it with truthseeker.co.uk (or much of anything else, frankly). Just thought it was an interesting possibility, as there's a couple of curious parallels there. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: RI "contributor" to the Truth Seeker?

Postby Qutb » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:54 pm

Sunny, the photos show men in uniforms having sex with women, so it's not the gay porn in question. The "soldiers" also look like professional porn actors ("buff" and "ripped"). Vialls (or whoever gave him the photos) just "borrowed" it from a porn movie. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: RI "contributor" to the Truth Seeker?

Postby Qutb » Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:02 pm

Thanks for that information, Albion, that's interesting. The American extreme right has been promoting David Icke heavily since his early books. The connections between extremist politics and the fringe world of conspiracy/alternative spirituality/UFOlogy/Protect-Yourself-From-the-Dangers-of-Radiation type stuff is something we should probably be more aware of. <p></p><i></i>
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Collapse of Western Civilization???

Postby Floyd Smoots » Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:16 pm

OK, People, right now, I have Had ENOUGH of this SHIT!!! Right now, as we blog, I want to know straight from the most Rigorously Intuitive minds on this board the ANSWER to this one question, and THIS question only. This includes YOU TOO, Jeff!!! (and marykmusic, sceneshifter, antiaristo, pugzleyca3, Dreams End, robertdreed, slimmouse, etc., et al)!<br><br>To preface the question, I will say right now that concerning the upcoming question, I don't give a Fat Rat's ASS about Nazis, Jews, The Holocaust, Hitler, Bush, Blair, The U.N., Dimwitcrats, Repugnicans, Gays, Straights, Muslims, Blacks, Browns, Whites, Arabs, Pagans, Non-Conformists, Protesters.....OK, I'm starting to run out of credibility here, so here is the BIG QUESTION, and it applies only to anyone who foolishly still thinks, in the "Western Democracies", that they still reside in a "free country".<br><br>Any or ALL of you out there please do your damned "Level Best" to explain to me WHY ANYONE in ANY faux-free country is now IN PRISON, or IN JAIL awaiting trial, for something that they either SAID or WROTE!!! I mean, COME ON here people!!! Earnst Zundel!!!!!!!! I'm NOT positing here that he's right! He might be. He might not. But, ask your so-called freedom-loving selves, WHY IN GOD'S DAMNNED HELL is this poor bastard in Prison for something he SAID or WROTE!!! DAMMIT, JEFF, can you HEAR the KNOCK on YOUR door yet??? "They" don't like what YOU say either.<br><br>Get the THOUGHT right bloggers. I'm NOT defending Zundel's opinions here. I'm trying to defend his RIGHT TO HAVE ONE!!! Is anyone's door getting a strangely unexpected knock tonight? If not, WHY not? If you've ever posted anything here, you're already an ENEMY OF THE STATE.<br><br>Poor "Ernie" was YANKED out of MY country, the Land of the Freak and the Home of the Slave, by WHOM??? I'm not quite sure, but HOW IN HELL did a former German who emigrated to YOUR homeland, JEFF, became a Canadian Subject (you folks are still not really citizens of your own country, only subjects of "The Crown"), legally entered the Untied Statez uf Amerika, and then was grabbed by "Octopus" sympathizers, "trainspotted" to Canalia, extra-helping-super-sized "mooved" to Das Vaterland, by the CIC (Cattle-In-Charge), jailed, Kangaroo Kourted, and now resides in a Germ-free PRISION because of something that he SAID or WROTE????????<br><br>I do my level best to eschew taking my Lord's Name in vain, but GOD DAMN IT, JEFF, this is WRONG. You know, even without God, that it's wrong, and all I hear on this cowardly board is "well......ya know......that Zundel fellow just doesn't seem to like Jews......so, ya know.......he probably "deserves" to go to PRISON! because......ya know, he just doesn't seem to like Jews.........ya know.<br><br>To re-iterate, concerning Zundel's views on "Life, The Universe, and Everything". I don't agree with all of them. I don't disagree with some of them. BUT WHY SHOULD HE BE IN PRISON FOR EXPRESSING "ANY" OF THEM!!!!!!!! The answer to dialog that you don't like, is YOUR dialog/argument to the contrary. It's NOT PRISON!!!!!!!! <br><br>GOD DAMN IT!!!!!!!! <br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >: --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/mad.gif ALT=">:"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: RI "contributor" to the Truth Seeker?

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:25 pm

thetruthseeker.co.uk uses legit material to lure folks in and has holocaust-denial/anti-semitic stuff buried a little deeper in its pages.<br><br>I found out the hard way when I linked to a Pilger article there over at democraticunderground.com<br>and was screamed at for doing so. I had no idea why until I looked around the site some more and found the hidden rot.<br><br>This may be a genuinely reich-wing site or one appropriated by spooks to discredit materials by juxtaposing them with nasty stuff.<br><br>I'm convinced many of the Jew-hating nasty reich-wing websites are actually set up by intelligence agencies to 'badjacket' subversive information and the sites they link to.<br><br>This is a common cointelpro-type tactic used by CIA-shill Chip Berlet to portray "conspiricism" as a symptom of fringe paranoia, xenophobia, etc. like those bizarre 'Constitution-worshippers.'<br><br>;)<br><br>This will get worse now that the Pentagon has attack plans against the internet so they can dominate the information wars.<br><br>More and more 'repellant' will be injected online to discourage us from going there. Porn spam is a case in point. It's generated to make parents keep their kids offline or put in those dumbing-down filters so the kids won't find out how obscene the government is. <p></p><i></i>
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You're All Making Me Look Like antiaristo, Here....

Postby Floyd Smoots » Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:02 am

Hugh, no quarrel with your post, but as my blogger friend antiaristo-John would say: WHERE IS MY ANSWER FROM "ALL" OF YOU TO MY POST ABOUT "FREEDOM OF SPEECH"???????? i think it's more important to all of us bloggers........ <p></p><i></i>
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