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Postby professorpan » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:35 pm

A choice tidbit from the poster known as Onesmartrat:

The State of Israel, Zionism and everything associated with it should be wiped off the map AND ERRADICATED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY for the very survival of our nation and our planet. Zionism is a blight upon mankind. It IS Naziism in it's purest form. In the end, they will destroy us all, and the planet as well, if they are not stopped and stopped NOW.


Is it just me, or is calling for a country (and "everything associated with it") to be ERRADICATED (sic) by ANY MEANS NECESSARY a little, well... genocidal?

Also, I encourage anyone who has bought into OSR's Zelig-esque "history" to simply google the username and follow some threads elsewhere.

Calling for the extermination of an entire country and certain peoples doesn't quite fit the mission of this board. What say ye, moderators and members?
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Postby Jeff » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:05 pm

I'd say this violates the posting regs. Anti-zionism (whatever that means - have we an agreed upon definition?) is one thing. but inviting the eradication of everything associated with it "by any means necessary" is, shall we say, a tad intemperate.

I don't know where this quote's found. My advice would be to delete the comment and caution "onesmartrat" to take note of the posting guidelines.
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Postby chiggerbit » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:10 pm

Egads, was that said HERE?
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Postby professorpan » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:13 pm

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Postby sunny » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:13 pm

Where was this said? Do you have a link?

Do as Jeff said-delete and warn OSR.
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Re: One ugly rat

Postby slimmouse » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:14 pm

professorpan wrote:A choice tidbit from the poster known as Onesmartrat:

The State of Israel, Zionism and everything associated with it should be wiped off the map AND ERRADICATED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY for the very survival of our nation and our planet. Zionism is a blight upon mankind. It IS Naziism in it's purest form. In the end, they will destroy us all, and the planet as well, if they are not stopped and stopped NOW.


Is it just me, or is calling for a country (and "everything associated with it") to be ERRADICATED (sic) by ANY MEANS NECESSARY a little, well... genocidal?




Well, call me a "fascist", but Im afraid that the State of Israel epitomises Nazism to a tee.

That the state sponsored Nazism practised by Israel is actually itself sponsored by the US/UK axis partners should surely give us all cause for concern .

Ive been saying for long enough that Israel is little more than a US/UK colony - an extension of the new fourth Reich.

And yet ironically enough, understanding this to be the plain in-yer-face case is likely to get me branded racist.

gotta love that dont ya, Prof Pan ?
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Postby philipacentaur » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:14 pm

Jeff, I'll withhold my comments on the general state of affairs around here because it's not my place to tell you how to run things -- but considering the fact that 99% of the "action" takes place here in "General Discussion", I think it would be prudent to post those guidelines as a "sticky" here.

As for this particular poster, I don't think a banning is the way to go -- they seem to thrive on rejection. My personal opinion of them should be obvious from my posts, for whatever that's worth.
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Postby chiggerbit » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:46 pm

For the record, rat, I would have banned you for that egregious comment.
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Postby slimmouse » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:52 pm

chiggerbit wrote:For the record, rat, I would have banned you for that egregious comment.


The State of Israel, Zionism and everything associated with it should be wiped off the map AND ERRADICATED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY for the very survival of our nation and our planet.

I find it something of an oxymoron.

But then again, much of OSR's commentary strikes me like that.

Its kinda like an intellectually supersized Thumper ( remember him ?)
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Postby Onesmartrat » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:51 pm

First of all, if you actually read what I said, I said that the STATE of Israel should be erradicated. I did not say Israel itself as in it's physical location. Obviously, you read into it what you wanted to and made your own projections. Erradicating the STATE of Israel, is in effect, ending a tyrannical ZIONIST theocracy BY DISSOLVING IT's EXISTENCE AS A SOVEREIGN NATION just as NAZI GERMANY was "erradicated" during WWII.

That is my opinon, you obviously disagree and have attacked publically me for having it mischaracterizing what I actually wrote to justify your assault.

Zionism is a conditioned-belief by the way, a belief is not a person. ZIONISM IS NOT A RACE OF PEOPLE. Advocating ERRADICATING A BELIEF WHICH IN PRACTICE IS ANTITHETICAL TO CIVIL EQUALITY AND INDIVDUAL AND COLLECTIVE FREEDOM AND EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL, IS NOT THE SAME AS ADVOCATING THE ERRADICATION OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE AS A RACE OR CULTURE OR THEIR PHYSICAL LOCATION (ISRAEL/PALESTINE AS A PLACE). I NEVER MADE ANY SUCH ASSERTIONS IN THAT POST OR ANY OTHER HERE.

If I had said that I advocated the erradication of "radical Islam" or American Naziism, I doubt sincerely that I would have been subjected to such biased censorship and this blatant vitriolic personal public attack.

However, one's opinons are not entirely welcome, apparently, when they conflict with other's in authority here it appears.

As far as "violating the posting rules" how is it that opening a thread calling another poster an "ugly rat" is acceptable and what I wrote not acceptable?

Pray tell us how this kind of deliberate attack in an open forum is "okay" with the owner of this site and in compliance with "the rules?"

If you disagreed or misunderstood what I said, why not post a response in that thread or ask me if I meant what you thought I did BEFORE YOU DECIDED TO ATTACK ME HERE ...after deleting my post as well.

The "ugly rat" is not I, it is in fact, your behavior betrays who is the real "ugly rat' by this disgusting abuse of power and violation of "the rules" of civility by actively attacking another poster and vicious name-calling, and in such a public way as to encourage others as well, just because they voice an opinion you don't happen to hold ...or like others holding, apparently.

-Onesmartrat/OSR
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Postby philipacentaur » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:06 pm

Should I chide you for your atrocious grammar, spelling and punctuation in the above post?

"IT's"

What would William Strunk, Jr. say?

LOL!!!
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Postby Onesmartrat » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:14 pm

philipacentaur wrote:Should I chide you for your atrocious grammar, spelling and punctuation in the above post?

"IT's"

What would William Strunk, Jr. say?

LOL!!!


Go right ahead ...stupid is as stupid does, afterall.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL....YAWN



-OSR
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Postby philipacentaur » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:18 pm

I'm mocking you, which makes you the stupid one.

In other words: I know you are, but what am I?
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Postby Onesmartrat » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:23 pm

You wanted to pick a fight with me, you got one.

But bring on a proper jouster, not some fool who can't read what is written and is stupid enough to think that he can bully me into some kind of public contrition, or get others to group-bully me out of this forum ... or thinks that name-calling is the way to debate an issue.

So far I am unimpressed with your efforts to distort what I said and intentionally malign me. You are a poor excuse for a "moderator," if you ask me and should be immediately removed for beach of conduct, ABUSE OF POWER and open contempt towards another poster simply for voicing an opinion HE DIDN"T LIKE. The definition of "moderation" itself, obviously being a concept that is lost to you.

Are YOU a ZIONIST by the way, "professorpan?"


(You sure act like one ....lol)





8)


-OSR
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Postby erosoplier » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:26 pm

I was wondering how long it would take people to notice. I guess maybe OSR is on a lot of people's "ignore" list, because it did take a while, and I think this is actually the second beyond-the-pale (by this board's standards) kind of comment made by OSR - the first one never drew comment.

I didn't say anything myself, because I do like to observe (keep your minds out of the gutter please). And because I don't think there's anything wrong with saying that you think the Israeli regime should be wiped from the pages of history or whatever. Because I think someone needs to threaten to bring an end to the current middle east status quo - preferably someone who has the power to carry out such a threat. I mean, mothers do this sort of thing to their children all the time. If the child is out of control and keeps going too far, the mother threatens, basically, to withdraw their love. Permanently. That's an important part of the threat, that as far as the child knows, the withdrawal of approval/love may well be permanent. That's what makes the tactic effective in modifying the child's behaviour.

When you get an up-close look at the way things are in Palestine, you understand that it's no way to live. And the USA could demand a change in Israel's behaviour, and overnight the behaviour would change. But it doesn't. So nothing changes.

I guess I'd defend OSR's right so say what he has said here, but on the other hand, I wouldn't be here in the first place if all I wanted to hear was people slagging off about Israel.
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