[EDITED: personal interactions about ARG et al]

[lightningBugout]

I noticed this weekend the following from Ron Patton's Project Monarch writing:

The most incriminating statement to date made by a government official as to the possible existence of Project MONARCH was extracted by Anton Chaitkin, a writer for the publication, The New Federalist. When former CIA Director William Colby was asked directly, "What about monarch?" he replied angrily and ambiguously, "We stopped that between the late 1960’s and the early 1970’s."

[lightningBugout]

More Chaitkin lunacy:

President Obama has put in place a reform apparatus reviving the euthanasia of Hitler Germany in 1939, that began the genocide there. ... Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel and other avowed cost-cutters on this panel also lead a propaganda movement for euthanasia... They shape public opinion and the medical profession to accept a death culture… to let physicians help kill patients whose medical care is now rapidly being withdrawn in the universal health-care disaster.[17]

[American Dream]

For whatever it is worth, Ron Patton- the author of the piece now thinks that name "Project Monarch" came under suspicious circumstances and is of questionable truthfulness.

[Tina Delgado]

A subtle change of guard in the Monarch "experts"?

Interesting, the way that Corydon Hammond was eased out
of the picture, while Colin Ross was eased in. I guess it really
helps to have power-beams emanate from one's eyes. Collusion
with the Church of Scientology probably can't hurt either.

Hammond is still bashed on websites by the "False Memory
Syndrome Foundation", as well as the delightful Loki der
Quaeler's Process Church wannabe site.

We note in passing that there are Wikipedia pages for Colin
Ross, the Church of Scientology, the "False Memory Syndrome Foundation",
even Loki der Quaeler has a Wiki page.

Corydon Hammond? Nope. No Wiki for C.H. Like he never happened.

Not that I would ever accuse Wiki of being stilted, compromised,
or basically worthless...

That's OK. We've got Colin Ross, Mark Phillips, Fritz Springmeyer,
Lyndon LeDouche, David Icke, and last but not least, Ted Gunderson,
to help us undersatand the gravity of the situation.

[Project Willow]

***Please note this post is for informational purposes only, there's no intention to bring this activity on to the board.***


She Lives!

Well, hello Tina. You must have been bored waiting so long for someone to view your profile.

His catch phrase was “Tina Delgado is alive, ALIVE!” shouted by some unknown frenzied girl. No one ever knew the story behind it. Who Tina Degado was. How he came to use it. Even what the hell it meant. But it didn’t matter. It was all part of the excitement this larger-than-life personality created for “the magnificent megalopolis of Boss Angeles” three hours every day…and especially on “Fractious Fridays”

And at 3:00 I could turn on the radio, “Devil with a Blue Dress” by Mitch Ryder would come blazing out of my speaker and I would hear “The Real Don Steele is alive, ALIVE!”

Tina's profile connects her with a blog that is part of The Last Statue which apparently is the ARG (ish thing) that overthrew DE. Surely we had a post or two about this here?
http://72.51.34.146/forums/viewtopic.php?t=28462sid=2d8ad9dfe090bf53300882d77aba4ede

birdmadgirl123
Boot

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As to whether this is the right forum, I've maintained that it is not. Why not take it over to RI. Perhaps you could contact Jeff Wells and see where he thinks it would fit in?

SteganosaurusRex
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Joined: 15 Sep 2009
Posts: 117

I have been searching over there. I don't think they will have any interest in this. Or, rather, I think they would likely be quite hostile to this material from what I have seen. And since everyone is convinced I am a certain former poster over there, a certain banned former poster, I can't imagine we would have much luck with that. There are entire threads spent attacking him and this material. I mean 20 plus page threads.

The Unfiction thread led to the creation of an entirely new wiki to tackle Tina's Aaaaaarrrgh.

Somehow, in ways not yet understood at all, the story has entwined itself with some very dark events of very recent history. The most prominent such event is the deaths of Theresa Duncan and Jeremy Blake. As it so happens, Theresa Duncan was onto something, or something was onto her. Her now-famous blog, The Wit of the Staircase, is riddled with hints, clues and allusions to...

...to something.

And whatever that something is, the Last Statue is pointing in the same direction.

I read some of your blog, Tina, here are a few from those that popped out for me:

A faded Rose from days gone by
Dawn breaks across the delta with only the south-east peninsula to bridge it.
Add comment October 31, 2009 untermuyer

Everyone’s gone to the movies
The projector here is overthrown. But I have now a project of mine own…
–Ben Jonson
Add comment November 8, 2009 untermuyer


Lady Gag(a) [vigorous intermission] 11:11
IDORU, I ADORE YOU!!!
Add comment November 11, 2009 untermuyer

Chateau Marmont
Posted in Uncategorized on September 23, 2009 by untermuyer

A lonely Wit aloha
What if she was talking about Hannah?
Add comment November 6, 2009 untermuyer

From which I got:

7/3/07 Hannah Edna Wit (suicide).... She was inseparable from her beloved dog Mujo

I LOVE BEEs!!
Add comment November 16, 2009 untermuyer

Maybe I am wrong to pull these personal and most certainly unintended almost-synchros out of the argish thing? Anyway,
I was just on my way out the door for a long hiatus from the board when I tripped over this corner of curled up carpet. I had to pull it up just a bit. Seems no one is spared the mind-fuckery, isn't that how these argish things work?

Tina, if you can explain the connection between Laura S. Brown and Colin Ross, I'd be impressed. But I don't want to spend a month tracking down esoteric texts or odd pop culture references to decipher the answer. Thanks.

[Tina Delgado]

Very flattering of you to take an interest PW.

My comments here pertain to what I assumed was
a thread about Monarch spin. (do please correct me
if I'm wrong) Do YOU have a specific motivation for
derailing this thread? (not the first time around here
for that apparently, methinks I see a pattern emerge)

Nowhere in my remarks, nor indeed, anywhere on
this page do I see a Dr. Laura S Brown referenced.

Nor, for that matter, do I see anything in my post
about ARGs or Last Statues or any of the blogs that
you mention.

Are you perchance trying to put words in my mouth?

The Unforum posts you mention rehash the Last Statue--
ARG question, and after 20 or so pages of frenzied examination
fail to connect TLS to any ARG except the one in DE's mind,
and even DE knows better than that. Ask him.

No one has attempted to bring any aspect of this material
to RI except YOU PW.

I wonder why that is?

[Project Willow]

Yawn.

Seriously, yawn. I like more direct play, can you dig?

OK, here goes it:
Aw, come on, that's a rather feeble attempt you've made to get me on my heels, with your inaccurate aspersions. You replied too quickly, you must have been excited. I'll take that as a compliment.

Here, I'll respond in a slightly cryptic way, that should be fun. Then I'll vaporize myself again, as it should it be, (figuratively of course!). I have far too much work to do and have no time for games. However, I should take this unique opportunity to state this in public (my friends already know) I would never, ever, commit suicide, not ever. If any such claim is made about my eventual demise, it is a lie.

That may seem a complete non-sequitur at first glance, and I expect to be harangued over it. Regardless, thanks for the however tenuous platform on which to deliver it.

Lest my fellow posters on the RI board think this reply completely solipsistic, no, I don't encourage further investigation, but if you were to, please view my postings here as warnings. IMO, the Last Statue and related blogs require bored college student (non-MC survivor) intern involvement. Don't do it, personally, anyway. If they have any meaning, it might be analogous to, hmmm, to when the killer stands behind a policeman at a press conference. It's a just a theory, and since I'm likely done with the entire thing after this post, it shall remain just a theory.

As for you, Tina, I leave you to your fate (or job) whichever affects your posting here sooner. The question of Dr. Brown is easily handled by lots of RI regulars.

[Tina Delgado]

PW, thank you for taking time out of your very hectic
schedule for this vicious personal attack. You are clearly
a person of great magnitude & importance. I am impressed.

Had I known that my mere presence would be so disruptive
to the thread at hand, I would not have bothered posting. My
apologies to Jeff W. and anybody else that is trying to have a
serious discussion here.

Although I know you are way too busy to offer any substance
to your scurrilous accusations, I think it worth noting that The
Last Statue was examined for 14 pages at Unforum by folks who
should know, and nobody there mistook it for an ARG.

Odd that you would mistake it for one, and then try to drag it
false ARG flag and all, to this forum, and once again derail
the thread as I notice seems to happen a lot on certain subjects.

Am I to infer from the bold outlined part of your post that you
percieve TLS as somehow attempting to induce you to commit
suicide? Not that I'm calling you out as a Melodrama Queen or
anything, but seems kind of a harsh and very specific accusation
to make without any facts to back it up, but then you're too busy,
--I forgot! (it IS a fairly effective and dramatic way to prolong
derailment of the thread though--I will grant you that)

TLS is a metafictive work that examines the influence of psy-ops
on popular culture, including memes, hypersigils, cinema, music,
ARGs, MMORPGs, virtual economies, cults etc.

At the risk of being perceived as talking down to anybody, I feel
compelled to state the obvious for the record:

TO WRITE OR COMMENT ABOUT SUCH TOPICS IS NOT THE SAME
THING AS ENDORSING THEIR FUCKING AGENDA.

Got it?

Now, perhaps those that so wish, can get back to discussing
the thread at hand...

[Project Willow]

To use a chat board shortcut, (isn't it your favorite?): LOL!
Why, this is the most fun I've had in awhile.

No, Tina, induce me to? Oh, your ego is too large! But I thought you were on holiday vacation. LOL, I can't stand it anymore, this is all too funny.

In seriousness, however, whatever the stated purpose of your, what did you call it? Yes, your metafictive work (that is not in my computer's dictionary), it's had already numerous deleterious effects, so whether you set out to prop up certain agendas or not, you have done so regardless. Tough realization that must be.

Leading MC survivors down a path of useless intrigue around manipulated activist suicides, eh, not so nice. I just don't consider those things ripe for immediate gaming. Such was my point, sorry it was over your head.

[Tina Delgado]

Useless intrigue? Manipulated activist suicides? WTF?

Leading WHAT MC survivors? Unless it was MC Hammer...

And at what point in history were you appointed to speak
for all MC survivors? You seem to have cornered the market
on the whole concept, unless it's just a cynical scam to hype
your "art" works, which is just about as provable as every
piece of feces you've managed to fling so far.

Who says I was on "holliday vacation"? Little voices in your
head?

This is the most fun you've had in a while? My condolences.

I thought you were too busy for this kind of fun!

Now back to Franklin/LaRouche/Monarch...

[chiggerbit]

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[chiggerbit]

Does this mean that FMS doesn't like him?

http://www.fmsfonline.org/hammond.html

False Memory Syndrome Foundation Compilation: Corydon Hammond
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F M S F O U N D A T I O N N E W S L E T T E R
Vol 2 No. 9, October 1, 1993
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| investigation of stories of satanic ritual abuse consipiray crimes |
| has spent $250,000 and has found nothing. All but a handful of |
| cases have been discounted or set aside for lack of evidence. The |
| Atty. Gen of Utah, Jan Graham, has yet to settle the issue. "She |
| says satanic ritual abuse may be real, may be phony, or may be a |
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| said he has ceased practicing or lecturing in that area. |
\_________________________________________________________________

[Project Willow]

Useless intrigue? Manipulated activist suicides? WTF?

Leading WHAT MC survivors? Unless it was MC Hammer...

Leading at least one activist into oblivion (must I quote you from up thread?) and derailing a good portion of this board into useless intrigue over the deaths of Theresa Duncan and Jeremy Blake, that's what I mean. Should I call you Eve, or...?

Whatever your intent, and you seem to be asserting here that your intent is valuable or genuine, your means were wholly destructive, and for that you should be held responsible. I, for one, do not trust you, nor would I trust anyone who mirrors or magnifies issues on this board that stand to sow distrust or dissension, which certain articles from the blog you link to in your profile most certainly do. If you wish to disavow any connection to those activities then you should do so promptly, otherwise your defenses, in my view, are quite easily overcome.

As for the rest, I thought I recognized you. Even when someone irks us, sometimes we're still real glad when we recognize them, at least initially.

[Tina Delgado]

Thanks for derailing the thread (once again) that
chiggerbit was adroitly leading back to.

All I can say is, if you think I'm Eve, (based on
WHAT exactly?) you need to upgrade the quality
of foil on your head my dear.

[chiggerbit]

that chiggerbit was adroitly leading back to.

Well, actually, I wasn't trying to be adroit, I was trying to figure out what the heck was going on.