BUG...THE MOVIE

[overcoming hope]

No, not Bugs Bunny...

I just watched the new film called Bug and I really do not know what the fuck to say, it appears this movie was made specifically to make people like us look completely fucking insane.


Has anyone else seen this film, if so please comment and if you havent, rent it immediately!

Seriously, rent the film and watch it come here and lets talk.

I was just going to post about this PIECE OF SHIT, because of the Washington Post Morgellons thread.

My girlfriend wanted to see a scary movie and she picked out Bug. It didn't take long for me to think exactly what Masonic said. The crazy as fuck character that thinks bugs are all over his body (which leads to self mutulation and teeth pulling) also happens to have a decent little starter kit of true conspiracy facts on the tip of his tongue (example: Nazis and project paperclip) that he interjects into completely insane/retarded theories, mixes it all up and makes anyone here at RI look like they belong in an insane asylum. Truly one of the scariest movies I have ever seen, but not in the way that it was intended.

[philipacentaur]

The crazy as fuck character that thinks bugs are all over his body (which leads to self mutulation and teeth pulling) also happens to have a decent little starter kit of true conspiracy facts on the tip of his tongue (example: Nazis and project paperclip) that he interjects into completely insane/retarded theories, mixes it all up and makes anyone here at RI look like they belong in an insane asylum.

People like this actually exist, and sometimes they do get some facts right. I don't think the movie was intended to obfuscate any truths. It was disturbing and sad though.

[overcoming hope]

http://bugthemovie.com/theatrical.html

click on 'spread the paranoia' below Ashely Judds head shot.

this is a good example of what I was talking about and before you think, 'well, this is a way to use fiction to interject ugly facts into the public consciousness' or something like that, keep in mind that the character ranting about conspiracys pulls his own teeth out with pliers and then sets his motel room on fire with Ashley and him in it. oh right after he smokes some crack.

If this movie isn't intentional psyops then it still does a marvelous job of marginalizing anyone that questions authority.

although this movie is a true piece of shit, the RI community should watch it, because after all, it is about you guys.

[professorpan]

Haven't seen it yet.

But -- why do some people always assume that entertainment like this has a sinister motive?

I write fiction, and it often has elements of topics discussed here at RI. In fact, my novel currently under revision has a character who may or may not be suffering from Morgellons. The uncertainty about the diagnosis is key to the buildup of suspense as the character questions his own sanity.

Am I somehow "discrediting" Morgellons by writing fiction about it? Are some conspiracy topics now verboten for writers?

People who write screenplays read the same things we do, folks. Creative writers of dark fiction (myself included) are always soaking up the weird, the scary, and the disturbing and working that material into short stories, novels, and screenplays.

This trend of demonizing stories and ascribing sinister motives to the writers/directors is really getting stale.

[professorpan]

If this movie isn't intentional psyops then it still does a marvelous job of marginalizing anyone that questions authority.

Oh, for Christ's sake. It's a fucking MOVIE. Make-believe. Fiction. Fantasy.

although this movie is a true piece of shit, the RI community should watch it, because after all, it is about you guys.

That's ridiculous. I repeat -- it's a MOVIE.

Some of you need to take a walk in the fresh air and stop looking for psyops behind every corner.

[overcoming hope]

Haven't seen it yet.

But -- why do some people always assume that entertainment like this has a sinister motive?

I write fiction, and it often has elements of topics discussed here at RI. In fact, my novel currently under revision has a character who may or may not be suffering from Morgellons. The uncertainty about the diagnosis is key to the buildup of suspense as the character questions his own sanity.

Am I somehow "discrediting" Morgellons by writing fiction about it? Are some conspiracy topics now verboten for writers?

People who write screenplays read the same things we do, folks. Creative writers of dark fiction (myself included) are always soaking up the weird, the scary, and the disturbing and working that material into short stories, novels, and screenplays.

This trend of demonizing stories and ascribing sinister motives to the writers/directors is really getting stale.

maybe some people always assume some ulterior motives, I don't tend to fall into that group.

Just to clarify, I actually don't think the creators of this film had any unseemly motives, but their final product undermines truth seekers everywhere. This guy knows (some) of his facts real well and also happens to be one of the nuttiest people to grace the silver screen in ages. For most people their first exposure to some of these nasty facts will be from this absolutely insane character from Bug. And I couldn't imagine anyone actually looking into anything he said later because it is all so boggled.

I'm not going to jump all over you because you haven't seen the film, but in order to form an educated opinion you will need to watch it.

I respect your approach and I hate to make you watch such a piece of garbage, but I am genuinely curious about what your take would be.

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If this movie isn't intentional psyops then it still does a marvelous job of marginalizing anyone that questions authority.

Oh, for Christ's sake. It's a fucking MOVIE. Make-believe. Fiction. Fantasy.

although this movie is a true piece of shit, the RI community should watch it, because after all, it is about you guys.

That's ridiculous. I repeat -- it's a MOVIE.

you can make that distinction, but your subconscious mind cannot.

Again, this will be the introduction to 'alternative theories' for most people that view the movie, you know that thing about first impressions.

intentional or not, this movie successfully muddies the water.

[nomo]

intentional or not, this movie successfully muddies the water.

That begs the question. Do "they" really need movies to make conspiracy nutters seem like, well, nutters?

[professorpan]

you can make that distinction, but your subconscious mind cannot.

Nonsense.

Again, this will be the introduction to 'alternative theories' for most people that view the movie, you know that thing about first impressions.

Sorry -- I don't buy that, either. Most people are not brain-dead automatons, and can separate truth from fiction. And many people who go to see horror movies have been exposed to plenty of the standard conspiracy tropes through other movies and tv.

What a low opinion many of you have about your fellow human beings.

[overcoming hope]

you can make that distinction, but your subconscious mind cannot.

Nonsense.

actually we have evolved with sight meaning certain things. Television confuses the mind and a memory you have that you have experienced in person or one that you have viewed on TV are indistinguishable to your subconscious mind.

now before you zing me with 'poppycock!'

Please understand this is the reason you might have thought of a funny story and couldn't remember whether one of your friends told you, or if you saw it on TV. unless you can consciously remember how you heard the funny story, your subconscious mind will not be able to differentiate between what you saw on TV and what you experienced in person.

[philipacentaur]

Fortunately, my subconscious mind isn't in control of my actions.

[professorpan]

Please understand this is the reason you might have thought of a funny story and couldn't remember whether one of your friends told you, or if you saw it on TV. unless you can consciously remember how you heard the funny story, your subconscious mind will not be able to differentiate between what you saw on TV and what you experienced in person.

I don't buy that. Sorry. Sounds like pop psych to me.

[overcoming hope]

Please understand this is the reason you might have thought of a funny story and couldn't remember whether one of your friends told you, or if you saw it on TV. unless you can consciously remember how you heard the funny story, your subconscious mind will not be able to differentiate between what you saw on TV and what you experienced in person.

I don't buy that. Sorry. Sounds like pop psych to me.

I'm not selling anything.

you are telling me you have never had the situation arise where you couldn't remeber if a certain story, fact, joke, news story, etc originated from the tv or movie screen or from one of your friends in the flesh? you have never had this experience?

[AlanStrangis]

Please understand this is the reason you might have thought of a funny story and couldn't remember whether one of your friends told you, or if you saw it on TV. unless you can consciously remember how you heard the funny story, your subconscious mind will not be able to differentiate between what you saw on TV and what you experienced in person.

I don't buy that. Sorry. Sounds like pop psych to me.

I agree, and with your earlier assessment re: the low opinion of humanity meme. Seems to have become more prevalent over the past 6 months or so.

I'd say more, but I gotta meet my friends Ross and Rachel down at the...

oh wait..

[overcoming hope]

Please understand this is the reason you might have thought of a funny story and couldn't remember whether one of your friends told you, or if you saw it on TV. unless you can consciously remember how you heard the funny story, your subconscious mind will not be able to differentiate between what you saw on TV and what you experienced in person.

I don't buy that. Sorry. Sounds like pop psych to me.

I agree, and with your earlier assessment re: the low opinion of humanity meme. Seems to have become more prevalent over the past 6 months or so.

I'd say more, but I gotta meet my friends Ross and Rachel down at the...

oh wait..

okay that is pretty funny, but you of course recognize that we are comparing apples and oranges here.

Your conscious mind knows that Ross and Rachel are not really your friends and so I'm not talking about an understanding that the TV is make believe.