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I saw Juno the other night. I prefer the honest nastiness of a slasher movie to Juno's hipster narcissist emotional violence - but that's me. Anyway, I thought this was interesting: Diablo Cody and Steven (CIA for Permanent Adolescentz!!) Spielberg's project, from an 'idea' of Spielberg's, The United States of Tara

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1001482/

A woman struggles to find a balance between her dissociative identity disorder and raising a dysfunctional family.

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streeb wrote:I saw Juno the other night. I prefer the honest nastiness of a slasher movie to Juno's hipster narcissist emotional violence - but that's me. Anyway, I thought this was interesting: Diablo Cody and Steven (CIA for Permanent Adolescentz!!) Spielberg's project, from an 'idea' of Spielberg's, The United States of Tara

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1001482/

A woman struggles to find a balance between her dissociative identity disorder and raising a dysfunctional family.

- edited to add Manateean zinger

Woa. I choked on my nice hot cup of Manateean zinger when I saw this.

*Homonym subliminals.* Words that have sounds in them associated with other things.

I've already written about Juno.

Juno is about the risk of...bum bum bum...pregnancy!
These many recent pregnancy movies are to assist military recruiting by giving young men a 'scared single' idea of how dangerous sex is-
"Don't get trapped by a little nookie. Stay single and come wear camo with your buddies."

The title, 'Juno,' is designed to be a homonym for a Latin-accented "you know..." in a finger-wagging warning tone.

The poster pictogram even has the teen boy wearing a t-shirt with a team called the "(something)-Condors" because recruiting Latin-Americans is tricky if they know about Operation Condor when the CIA helped murder and torture thousands of people south of the US border. The bottom of the poster has a boys track team running away from Juno, the implied message. "Hup hup hup..."

The title, 'United States of Tara,' is a homonym for United States of....TERROR.
The plot blurb is about an unreliable 'crazy' woman trying to run things. sheesh.
This is another standard anti-woman stay-away-young-man recruiting theme to keep young men macho and single BUT it is one of several movies specifically doing subliminal negative framing of HILARY CLINTON.

The 'Iron Man' movie coming out in May 2008 has two Hilarys cast just as subliminal negative framing of Hilary Clinton in case she's the Dem nominee at the convention this summer-
Hilary Duff
Hilary Swank.

Spielberg makes Leni Reifenstahl look innocent.
Now I need another nice cup of Manateean zinger.

The 'Iron Man' movie coming out in May 2008 has two Hilarys cast just as subliminal negative framing of Hilary Clinton in case she's the Dem nominee at the convention this summer-
Hilary Duff
Hilary Swank.

Haha what!?

Usual have your cake and eat it nonsense. Your CIA involvement in Hollywood is micromanagement down to the level of total control over casting for the purpose of insignificant childish puns, yet when pressed on the matter you move the goalposts to it being top-down influence with none of the rank and file knowing what they're doing. Anyone can see this makes zero sense. You can't have it both ways. And in fact you can't have it EITHER way because you are simply wrong, and Hollywood propaganda works in a totally different way that you've blinded yourself to with schizoid conspiracy fan-fiction fabrications.

Amazing. I thought you were just going to keep posting one sentence (or word) scoffs after my posts. But here's an almost response of some kind. Alright then.

orz wrote:

The 'Iron Man' movie coming out in May 2008 has two Hilarys cast just as subliminal negative framing of Hilary Clinton in case she's the Dem nominee at the convention this summer-
Hilary Duff
Hilary Swank.

Haha what!?

Usual have your cake and eat it nonsense. Your CIA involvement in Hollywood is micromanagement down to the level of total control over casting for the purpose of insignificant childish puns, yet when pressed on the matter you move the goalposts to it being top-down influence with none of the rank and file knowing what they're doing.

No, you're confused about alleged goalposts. Glad to clarify.

First, the comic, 'Iron Man,' like many other superheroes, has always been political.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man

Second, I've written that the greenlighting of a zillion dollar movie is done top down by the kind of honchos who met with Karl Rove after 9/11 and the kind who during WWII complied with the Bureau of Motion Pictures editing and censorship.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/11/08/rec.bush.hollywood/
http://ics.leeds.ac.uk/papers/vp01.cfm?outfit=pmt&folder=34&paper=121

But there is spook craft at different points in production, especially script writing.
People certainly have been cast for just their names as thematic triggers, not just reasons of box office draw or genre type casting.

Example:
There's a 1995 movie called 'A Family Thing' that uses covert mnemonic manipulations about the US government's assassination of Martin Luther King and framing of an innocent patsy, James Earl Ray.
The movie reinforces main points of the cover story while discrediting things and people who expose the truth. For instance
> an eyewitness to the murder is now a blind woman.
>The name of William Pepper is associated with drunkeness and superstition.
>The morning-after elimination of the bushes MLK's was shot from is now a cleared city lot the two lead characters fight in.
>The recovery of James Earl Ray's car from an impound lot is now recovery of "Ray's" truck at an impound lot, complete with the Arkansas plates that were seen by a witness on a second car exactly like James Earl Ray's used to frame him up.
etc.

James Earl Jones was cast simply because his name was so much like the patsy of the MLK hit-
James Earl Ray.

The other star is Robert Duvall and he plays the lead character named-
..."Ray"...to complete the mnemonic circuit which "James Earl Jones" begins.

...you can't have it EITHER way because you are simply wrong...
...
...you've blinded yourself to with schizoid conspiracy fan-fiction fabrications.

Dang, more generic scoff. sigh.[/quote]

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:James Earl Jones was cast simply because his name was so much like the patsy of the MLK hit-
James Earl Ray.

The other star is Robert Duvall and he plays the lead character named-
..."Ray"...to complete the mnemonic circuit which "James Earl Jones" begins.

You know, it's funny how things never turn out the way you had 'em planned.
The only thing we knew for sure about Henry Porter is that his name wasn't Henry Porter.
And you know there was somethin' about you baby that I liked that was always too good for this world
Just like you always said there was something about me you liked that I left behind in the French Quarter.

Strange how people who suffer together have stronger connections than people who are most content.
I don't have any regrets, they can talk about me plenty when I'm gone.
You always said people don't do what they believe in, they just do what's most convenient, then they repent.
And I always said, "Hang on to me, baby, and let's hope that the roof stays on."

There was a movie I seen one time, I think I sat through it twice.
I don't remember who I was or where I was bound.
All I remember about it was it starred Gregory Peck, he wore a gun and he was shot in the back.
Seems like a long time ago, long before the stars were torn down.....