Color as subliminal messaging, 1962 Color Marketing Group

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Color as subliminal messaging, 1962 Color Marketing Group

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:37 pm

Have you wondered why so many clothing merchants offer military camouflage-colored clothes for children lately? Is this a form of recruiting normalization with the complicity of CIA-influenced industry?<br><br>History suggests this is very likely.<br><br>Here's a whiff of the Color Marketing Group. The CMG was set up in 1962 in Alexandria, Virginia to lead American consumer goods manufacturers in designing products that would influence their purchasers psychologically, really a form of subliminal messaging.<br><br>Yes, shopping is a form of hypnotism as we enable the infiltration of our minds with objects designed to own us. "Victim-activated weaponry" is what the military calls land-mines and that's what research-designed products are, too.<br><br>The creation of the CMG was probably spurred by the 1961 publication of Faber Birren's book 'Color Psychology and Color Therapy' examining "the rising science of psychosomatic medicine which admits that man cannot be divorced from his body."<br><br>Faber Birren advised the US military and his work led to the use of color in personality assessment tests. Does this sound like CIA MK-ULTRA territory yet with their 'Gittinger Personality Assessment System,' etc.?<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.assessment.com/TestsIntro/color_more.asp">www.assessment.com/TestsI...r_more.asp</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Information About The Aura Color Test<br><br>This test is based on the color test designed by Dr. Max Luscher, and on the research by Faber Birren who pioneered the field of color psychology. This test examines the information provided by the test taker and their choices of accepting and rejecting the various colors. It is able to provide a quick psychological insight of their personality, characteristics, and gifts.<br><br>Dr. Max Luscher was born in Basel, Switzerland, in 1923. He graduated from the University of Basel and went on to continue studying at Stockholm and Paris. With his education completed, he returned to his alma mater as a professor of psychology.<br><br>After Dr. Luscher first presented his color test at an international medical conference in Lausanne, attention and popularity in the test began to skyrocket. The test has been and is currently studied and used throughout the world by psychologists and physicians. The test is also used by industry for screening job applicants. Pharmaceutical, packaging, flooring, advertising, and architecture companies have employed Dr. Luscher as a color consultant. Dr. Luscher and the color test have made many contributions to society.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Faber Birren has also served as a color consultant to government, education, armed forces, architecture, industry, and commerce. </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->After graduating high school in 1918, Birren went on to attend classes in life drawing and painting at the Art Institute of Chicago.<br><br>According to the U.S. Army Service Forces, by using a safety color code devised by Birren in their industrial plants that built various items for war, the government plants were able to cut their accident frequencies from 46.14 to 5.58 per thousand. That is just one of the many contributions Faber Birren has made to society with his research in color psychology.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.colorsystem.com/projekte/engl/42bire.htm">www.colorsystem.com/proje...42bire.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>This was just at a time when the CIA's MK-ULTRA mind control experiments were being looked at for ways to reinforce Cold War propaganda and social engineering, especially with the challenges of Ike's 1/61 warning against the military-industrial complex and the 4/61 Bay of Pigs disaster raising anxieties about nuclear annihilation almost to the point of the unthinkable - public demands for peace which were almost satisfied by JFK until a slow limo ride past a grassy knoll with quite 'colorful' results.<br><br>1962 was also the year of the US Senate's 'Military Cold War Education and Speech Review Policies' hearings by the Special Preparedness Subcommittee of the Committee on Armed Services. These hearings were meant to both allay fears of a 'Seven Days in May'-type military coup in the US and plan better indoctrination of soldiers and civilians alike.<br><br>The CMG won't tell civilian-consumers what their plan is on its own website but other industries spill the beans on their own websites. With that as background, here's the Color Marketing Group's blurb for 2006 probably based on the CIA's Ivy League-researched mind-massaging control-oriented socio-political agenda.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.bluetomatographics.com/tips_2006color.html">www.bluetomatographics.co...color.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>2006 Consumer Color Directions®<br>Warm, Clear and Bright Colors Lead 2006 Forecast<br><br>Alexandria, VA, USA - Colors for 2006 will be warmer, clearer and brighter, according to the color designers at Color Marketing Group (www.colormarketing.org). Reddened oranges will replace coppery hues; yellows will gain importance; blues will dramatically recede; and complex neutrals will add sophistication and luxury to the 2006 Consumer Color Palette.<br><br>The color professionals at CMG identified these six key influences driving the 2006 Color Directions:<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Techno-Organic Balance</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> - Consumers want to find a balance in their lives between the influences of nature and the pace of technological advance. They order their lives and base purchase decisions on this new, somewhat surreal balance.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Breathing Space</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> - Consumers want fulfilled and rewarding lives despite the demands of work and society. To this end, they seek serenity and calm in a space that is insulated from common daily stresses and emerging threats to safety, both in public and private.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Heritage with Heart</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> - However clearly consumers remember the past, they sense a need to reconnect with it. Hope and optimism filter memories of past events, ensuring that this nostalgic journey is warm and comforting. The focus is on positive times; struggles are forgotten.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Hybrid</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> - The synthesis of cultural norms pervades the environment. Society has evolved beyond fusion in foods, fashion and design. Now, hybrid households and communities are entering the mainstream. The move to Hybridization occurs in parallel with geopolitical and economic events and is a product of the proliferation of global unification in communications, transportation, manufacturing and services. Although Hybridization is generally accepted by consumers, it offers a sharp contrast to the comfort of the predictable past.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Über Luxury </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->- As extravagance becomes accessible to the masses, there is a need to identify icons or symbols that convey a new level of status and sophistication. In response, icons of sophisticated craftsmanship and rare materials with high polish and burnished finishes will emerge. In fashion, Über Luxury takes on a classic feminine style that drives decision-making and brings power to women. In the home, Über Luxury is defined as masculine, clean simple and elegant.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Color Depth</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> - Consumers seek bold colors and luminous materials that add glow and fluidity in product executions. Visually stimulating chromatic textures yield high—energy interest and excitement.<br><br><br><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 9/25/06 9:01 pm<br></i>
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Re: Color as subliminal messaging, Red vs Blue states

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:43 pm

<!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.assessmentpsychology.com/_borders/psych_masks_bxp52729t.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>Consider the way the CIA media polarizes the country by dividing us like opposing sports teams into 'Blue States' and Red States.'<br><br>Is this subliminal sanctioning of political parties?<br><br>Here are biological characteristics for red and blue with red being active and blue passive-<br><br>http://www.shibuya.com/garden/colorpsycho.html<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>GENERAL COLOR REACTION<br>In broad way hues in the red area of the color wheel are called 'warm,' while those in the blue and green range are referred to as 'cool.' These terms are relative rather than absolute. Faber Birren defines this commonalty of the colors of the spectrum by associating each with two moods. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The warm colors are active and exciting such as a red and its neighboring hues. The cool colors which are passive and calming are blue, violet and green. Likewise, light colors are active, while deep colors are likely to be passive.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Modern researchers in Japan put their finger on this point precisely. For example, Choku Akashi (1986) demonstrates a number of his research results which imply that red is often felt to be active and may be connected in some circumstances with aggressive. In contrast to the warm colors, the cool colors are inactive or passive (see figure-2.) Faber Birren said "the rather strong observation is to be made that division of the spectrum into warm and cool colors holds very evident and simple meaning with reference to human personality." Indeed, though the conclusion may be largely empirical, warmth and coolness in color are dynamic qualities, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>warmth signifying contact with environment, coolness signifying withdrawal into oneself.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> In conclusion, emotionally the red is exciting the blue is subduing. Physically and physiologically, the same sort of complementation exists. Red colors tend to increase bodily tension, to stimulate the autonomic nervous system, but green and blue colors release tension and have a lesser physiological effect. It is to be granted, of course, that direct connections exist between the brain and the body and that reactions take place independently of thought or deliberation. (Birren '55)<br><br>COLOR TEST<br>Conventional psychology dismisses any supposed ability on the part of color to influence the complexity of the human personality. However, some psychiatrists use color tests, in combination with other kinds of tests, to help make a diagnosis (Valey 1980). Color is most commonly associated with the affective or the emotional as opposed to the intellectual side of life. A color tests which are generally known are Rorschach Inkblot Method in 1921, the Color Pyramid Test (CPT) in 1950 by Max Pfister, and the Color Test in 1948 by Max Luscher in figure-1. One of the recent studies is Color Communication by Choku Akashi in Japan (figure-2). He surveyed the relation between human emotions and color preferences using his color chart which is composed of 36 colors in combinations of two colors, and interviewed 79,325 people from children to adults for eight years. (see the PROSPECTS)<br><br>CHILDREN'S PICTURE<br>Children have been made guinea-pigs in attempts to discover if, and to what extent, human response to color is inborn or culturally conditioned. For their book Painting and Personality, Rose H.Alschuler and La.. Berta Weiss Hattwick had the opportunity to study young children and their painting over a long period of time and with a knowledge of their back grounds (figure-3). They concluded that a delight in color showed emotional tendencies, and the frequent use of blue or black implied self-control and repression of emotion. As might be expected, red had the highest effective value and revealed uninhibited expression. Yellow seemed to go with infantile traits and dependence on grown-ups. Green showed balance, fewer emotional impulses, a simple and an uncomplicated nature. In a similar study, Atsushi Asari defines the mean of 12 colors and 17 combinations of colors with a similar method of Alschuler and Hattwick (figure-2). Particularly, a commonalty of their childrens' research can be seen in purple. This color would imply unhappiness that might be associated with sickness or death.<br><br>CHROMOTHERAPY<br>The ancient Egyptians, Chinese, and Indians had believed in chromotherapy, or healing with colors. In chromotherapy, red is believed to stimulate physical and mental energies, yellow to stimulate the nerves, orange to stimulate the solar plexus and revitalize the lungs, blue to soothe and heal organic disorders such as colds, hay fever, and liver problems, and indigo to counteract skin problems and fevers.(Paul '89) Most people have skeptical opinion about color healing, however, the medical profession makes use of color in certain treatments. For instance, premature babies with jaundice are cured by a chemical reaction triggered by exposure to blue light for several days. The relation between blue light and jaundice is beginning to be well understood scientifically. (Kaiser, '84)<br><br>ENVIRONMENTAL PSYCHOLOGY<br>In environmental study with color and light, conducted by visual-arts professor Harry Wohlfarth and Catharine Sam of the University of Alberta, the color environment of fourteen severely handicapped and behaviourally disordered eight to eleven years old was altered. It involved substituting yellow and blue for orange, white, beige and brown and replacing fluorescent lights with full-spectrum ones. After a change in color and lighting environment, the children's aggressive behavior diminished and then blood pressure dropped. Interestingly, the same effects were found in both blind and sighted children in Wohlfarth and Sam's study. This suggests that color energies affect in ways that transcend seeing. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>One hypotheses is that neurotransmitters in the eye transmit information about light to the brain even in the absence of sight, and that this information releases a hormone in the hypothalamus that has numerous effects on our moods, mental clarity, and energy level. In what Wohlfarth calls the science of 'Colorpsychodynamics,' colors that seem to increase blood pressure, pulse, and respiration rate are, in order of increasing effects, warm colors such as red, orange and yellow. This effects the same as Faber Birren's study which mentioned before.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>METHODS OF RESEARCH<br>The methods of research in psychological effects of color are divided into two typical categories. One of the methods is represented the study of childrens' paintings of Alschuler and Hattwick. On the other side, there is another methods which is survey of using color chart of Choku Akashi's study. Compared of these research are as follows:<br>period age number of samples<br>Alschuler & Hattwick 2 years 3-4 yrs. 15 people<br>Choku Akashi 8 years wide range 79,325 people<br><br>The obvious problem of Alschuler and Hattwick is the length of time and subjects. However, this methods is effective way because color is emphasized whenever powerful emotions were presented in children's painting, in other words, children with strong emotional drives had strong preferences for certain color. After Alschuler and Hattwick's research, another research group that investigated children's picture, was founded in Japan. They have continued their research for 40 years and brought the result to a conclusion which can be seen in Atsushi Asari's report. (figure-2)<br>Choku Akashi's research shows deep consideration. He uses his own color chart with 11 single colors and 25 color combinaitons and testing carefully with following matters:<br>1) tries testing under a specific light source.<br>2) establishes the viewing conditions.<br>(inclines the color chart at 30 degree and set it 50cm from the observer.)<br>3) changes the color arrangement in the chart every six months due to consider the possible effects of simultaneous contrast.<br>This color test elicits a feeling from the testee at that moment. Indeed, the purpose of this test is to know the feeling or the mood at the time rather than the person's unchangeable personality. It is hoped that this research will be conducted under the same condition in the other countries.<br>In this research, combinations of two colors have a special meaning besides those of a color. For instance, combination yellow and blue represents a conflict between the opposing drives to remain infantile and to grow up in Alschuler and Hattwick's research. Similarly, the same color combination represents 'anxious' in both Choku Akashi and Atsushi Asari's studies. Thus, this is an important factor in these research methods.<br><br>PROSPECTS<br>When the results of various studies are compared, some cultural differences can be found. For instance, in Faber Birren's study direct association (see APPENDIX) some of the specific color associations in the United States can be seen. However, it might be expected that essentially the same results would be shared by all countries. In one attempt to get more objective data on this topic, Color preferences between America and Japan (figure -4) were investigated. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Especially interesting are the color preferences by age, in which the lower grade students or infants prefer Red color, and Blue is preferred by older ages.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Nevertheless, this series of statistical surveys which simply asked people to place colors in order of preference has some problems when compared with different countries. This is because the basis of the survey is not unified in each research. For example, the American and Japanese surveys do not correspond in term of years, time period, number of people, and notation of the colors. These factors have to be examined and unified all kind of researches. Furthermore, because names of colors are different in each country, the color names should be accurately noted in a color space to improve the international research of color psychology. Although the ISCC-NBS dictionary of color names (figure-5) showed the ISCC-NBS names assigned to colors with various Munsell Values and Chromas, and Munsell Hues, it is changing slightly in the different countries. (figure-6) Therefore, with a view to developing of the field of color psychology, it is necessary to be consistent in all countries. For this research the five basic Munsell hues (Red, Yellow, Green, Blue, Purple) are used, as well as Orange and Brown, because these colors are relatively common. Moreover, three neutral colors, White, Gray and Black, are included. The ten colors are then combined in all of the possible combinations of two.<br>In addition, the researchers should recognize the basic colorimetry which the stimulus for color is provided by the proper combination of a source of a light, an object, and an observer.<br><br>SUMMARY<br>Recently, consulting business using the color psychology is getting attention. The consultant is called 'Colorist' or 'Color consultant.' Although the field of color psychology is undeveloped, most colorist convince clients using this term as a magic word. Certainly, the importance of Colors in an environment are widely recognized by the public. But, in term of a lofty study, this field is still not accepted by the public. Therefore, it is too dangerous and establish to use the superficial knowledge of the color psychology.<br>In conclusion, in order to form this field as well accepted, world-wide cooperation, research and unification are strongly desired. Especially, before the public becomes skeptical and blames this field and deeds on colorists.<br>This research should be continued and expanded in the future. <br><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 9/25/06 9:02 pm<br></i>
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Re: Color as subliminal messaging, Red vs Blue states

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:30 pm

Why does the universally recognized Biohazard symbol come from a centuries-old Japanese family crest? <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Re: Color as subliminal messaging, 1962 Color Marketing Grou

Postby Comfortably Numb » Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:58 am

Tiger Woods has always worn red on Sundays during the final round of golf tournaments. This is often mentioned by broadcasters when discussing his obvious psychological intimidation factor against opponents.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Color as subliminal messaging, 1962 Color Marketing Grou

Postby 4911 » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:02 am

Ever wonder why McDonalds interiors are all brownish/redish/beige hues?<br><br>Makes us hungry. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=4911>4911</A> at: 9/26/06 9:03 am<br></i>
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Re: McDonalds colors - yellow and red

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:20 pm

Actually, I'm reading Faber Birren's 'Color Psychology and Color Therapy' and he goes into the testing done on children to see what colors they respond to at what ages.<br><br>Toddlers are drawn to the brighter colors of red and yellown more than the cooler colors of blue and green. This is true in all countries and so probably has biological rather than cultural reasons.<br><br>So I think McDonald's is trying to attract and imprint new customers for later in life. And kids are a marketing inroad to parents, obviously.<br><br>That's why McDonalds looks like an oversize toy. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby professorpan » Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:11 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Have you wondered why so many clothing merchants offer military camouflage-colored clothes for children lately? Is this a form of recruiting normalization with the complicity of CIA-influenced industry?<br><br>History suggests this is very likely.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>You</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> suggest it's very likely. There are plenty of possible reasons that don't involved CIA control of the fashion and fabric industries. I wore camouflage when I was in my teens because it was available cheap at military surplus stores. And to be honest, I can't recall the last time I saw a kid (toddler through teen) dressed in camouflage. Do you live in the boonies, Hugh? Maybe we city folk just don't dress our kids in military garb.<br><br>Of course colors influence our feelings and behaviors -- this has been known for decades, and has been turned into a science by marketers. I do appreciate your analysis of the McDonald's color scheme -- I think you're right on. It's no secret that Mickey D's does its best to snare kids as soon as they're old enough to say "Ronald McDonald" and hold their hand out for a toy.<br><br>But you lose me when you extrapolate things like:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Faber Birren advised the US military and his work led to the use of color in personality assessment tests. Does this sound like CIA MK-ULTRA territory yet with their 'Gittinger Personality Assessment System,' etc.?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>It only sounds similar because the words "personality" appears in both examples. Hugh, not every person who advises or works with the military is a bought-out CIA shill. Birren also worked with government, education, architecture, and various industries, as you're pointed out in bold text. Sounds to me like he had a good thing going. People from various walks of life felt his color theories were useful -- you even cite one example of his color codes preventing accidents.<br><br>The Luscher Color Test is pretty interesting. I have a copy of the original book, which comes with color swatches so you can take the test. I'd bet there's an online version, for anyone who'd like to try it for him/herself. <br><br>I also enjoyed your mentioning of the red/blue political coding -- I think that deserves some serious scrutiny. For instance, when was it first deployed, and by whom? But when you try to stuff everything into an overarching metaconspiracy, it just doesn't fly. <p></p><i></i>
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Even more sinister...

Postby Jill Burdigala » Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:14 am

During the US Civil War tons of parents loved to dress their kids up in military-style clothes, <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>even the girls</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. If I had a scanner I could show you. I am not being flippant or making this up, it is absolutely true.<br><br>Now, to scrupulous observers of the secret machinations of history, it is an undisputed matter of record that there was a very great deal of military-industrial brouhaha, intelligence agency operation, and whatnot, going on in the general vicinity of Alexandria, Virginia <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>precisely 100 years to the day</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> before the Color Marketing Group was set up there. I am not being flippant or making this up, it is absolutely true.<br><br>Can anyone believe that this is merely pure coincidence?<br><br>Even more damning. Probably no one here (except I and one other) is aware of the leaked top secret government classified document which details how, at 10:03 am GMT on the morning of August 11 (old style), 2 million BC, the Jewish-dominated Scottish rite sect of the CIA manipulated the smarter Homo Erectus into picking up a pointy stick and poking dumber Homo Erectus.<br><br>Think about that the next time you see a little boy pick up a stick in his back yard and go after somebody! They've already won, people. They had it all sewn up two million years ago, <p></p><i></i>
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argh!

Postby orz » Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:45 pm

So wait... the colours of the visible spectrum are evil now!? :-S<br><br>Last time i checked colours cannot in themselves contain messages or data... so it's pretty silly to call it "subliminal messaging" <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Anyway, some very interesting stuff. <br><br>Certainly colours are used in all sorts of ways to manipulate people, but as usually once you go into "OMG CIA CONTROLLING US WITH SUBLIMINAL COLOR MESSAGES" territory we all loose out on what started as a useful train of thought.<br><br>Colours convey emotions and feelings which are NOT the same as "messages" or information... (which come to think of it is something many people seem to forget generally. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ) <br><br>If you paint everything in your house red then you and your visitors might certainly experience some emotional effects, but these will be subtle, complex and IMMENSELY varied from person to person based on their previous experiences etc, to the point of being totally useless for inducing any specific response. How would you be sure it would have anything close to the desired effect?<br><br>Was the idea of random combinations of movie titles spelling out subliminal messages just not quite obtuse and tenuous enough for ya or something!? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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also...

Postby orz » Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:11 pm

...you start off on the wrong foot: Camoflage is not a colour! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>It's a pattern, an image. In fact 'fashion' camoflage is very often NOT in the green/brown colours associated with millitarism, it'll often be 'ironic'/subversive pink, or that kind of thing.<br><br>Also it's not really that fashionable any more. And yeah, has been worn by youths of all sorts for decades for a multitude of reasons other than (and usually opposed to) the CIA covertly telling them to. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>What i'd REALLY like to know is why the CIA insist that fake retro US thrift store truck-stop t-shirts, and jeans artfully machine-distressed in some sweatshop somewhere with fake paint/rust/bird poo, should STILL be deemed fashionable in UK high street stores some 5 years after everyone I know considered them totally stupid. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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camo clothes

Postby knowbuddysfool » Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:45 am

Umm, did any of you take your boys school shopping this year? My youngest has been obsessed with camouflage for years. My middle son not so much, but even he caught the bug this year and got a shirt that looks like it was discarded by a soldier from some third world regime and a pair of military inspired, "distressed" drab greenish cargo pants. And for the girls, they are pushing pink and gray (very 80's color combo) camo patterns WITH SPARKLY GLITTER and shiny silver belts. What 8 year old tomboy could resist? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Color as subliminal messaging, Red vs Blue states

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:07 pm

<!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0265298/th-f6scan_05.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000069HZN.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1070993343_.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>2002, a midterm election year when Sen. Paul Wellstone died and teen star Frankie Munzie is in a movie in which the villain is a <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Hollywood </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->mogul who gets painted <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>blue</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> and is the title character of <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>'The Big Fat Liar.'</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Hey kids, enjoying your...programming?<br><br>http://imdb.com/title/tt0265298/2002 The Big Fat Liar<br>starring Frankie Muniz<br><br>http://imdb.com/title/tt0265298/photogallery <br>movie poster of tied up man painted blue<br><br>http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0265298/th-f6scan_05.jpg<br>http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/0265298/Ss/0265298/f6scan_05.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0265298still image of The Big Fat Liar movie villain painted blue<br><br>http://imdb.com/title/tt0265298/plotsummary<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Plot Summary for<br>Big Fat Liar (2002)<br><br>A take on the classic tale 'The Boy Who Cried Wolf', 'Big Fat Liar' is about a 14-year-old boy named Jason Shephard (Frankie Muniz) who lies for the fun of it. Jason loses an important story assignment entitled 'Big Fat Liar' in movie producer Marty Wolf's (Paul Giamatti) limo, which Wolf then turns into a film. When Jason sees a movie preview of his story, he and best friend Kaylee (Amanda Bynes) go to Los Angeles to make Wolf confess to using Jason's story as well as to clear Jason's name and to get him out of having to attend summer school. The teen liar then has to match wits with Wolf, who also turns out to be a big liar.<br><br>Summary written by Anna {annachan@amazon.com}<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 9/28/06 1:28 pm<br></i>
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Re: Color as subliminal messaging, Red vs Blue states

Postby professorpan » Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:42 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>2002, a midterm election year when Sen. Paul Wellstone died and teen star Frankie Munzie is in a movie in which the villain is a Hollywood mogul who gets painted blue and is the title character of 'The Big Fat Liar.'<br><br>Hey kids, enjoying your...programming?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>really</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> hope you are spoofing yourself/trying to be funny here. . . . <p></p><i></i>
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oops

Postby orz » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:11 pm

double posted, sorry... <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=orz@rigorousintuition>orz</A> at: 9/28/06 2:56 pm<br></i>
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shocking

Postby orz » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:15 pm

Here in the UK <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>post boxes</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> are painted <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>red</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->! And not only in election years, but <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>ALL THE TIME</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->! Cooincidence? I think not!<br><br>And the postal service is called the <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>royal</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> mail... obviously mail = male, not exactly subtle programming there...<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Hugh, predictably your theory has gone way off the initially interesting rails once more...<br><br>Seriously... once again i genuinely ask; by what specific means are these messages imparted.<br><br> Movies don't make themselves... posters don't design themselves... who told a bunch of advertising guys that this poster must feature a liar with a blue face? more to the point, who told a hollwood writer to write a script to begin the convoluted process of eventually ending up with such a poster being put up?<br><br>Please give me even one example of ANYONE from the immense movie industry who has even claimed that such things are done for political reasons unrelated to the movie's content and dictated from outside. I mean, if this practice is as prevailent as you imply, how come noone in the notoriously rumour and backstabbing-ridden world of Hollywood has let the cat out of the bag... or at least spread gossip, noticed odd goings on and apparently inexplicable title changes etc etc etc etc.<br><br>As those incredibly irritating anti-piracy ads (another genuine , obvious, serious example of true propaganda that you seem to ignore in favour of this tenuous stuff) pointed out, movies are made by everyday working joes... not some secret elite... your theories just aren't remotely compatable with the unarguable reality of how and why movies are produced.<br><br>Please give me evidence, or better still step back and take a look at what you're saying and how it looks to others. <p></p><i></i>
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