robert d reed wrote:The French Connection movie is yet another film whose release was pre-dated by the publication of a best-selling book, of which you've indicated no awareness (as with such earlier "examples" of "keyword-jacked movies" such as Dr. Strangelove, and Three Days Of The Condor- do you ever bother to fact-check your assumptions?)
Wayne was known for his conservative ideals. He took part in creating the Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals, and was the president of that organization at one time. He was an ardent anti-communist, and was a vocal supporter of HUAC and the blacklisting of actors and actresses that were accused of being sympathetic to communist ideals.
The Hunt for Bin Laden
by Robin Moore
Pub. Date: March 2003
From Our Editors
In December 2001, Green Berets novelist Robin Moore traveled to Afghanistan, where he witnessed some of the heaviest fighting between U.S. Special Forces and Al Qaeda/Taliban troops. This book is his report from the front lines of the war on terrorism.
From the Publisher
The Hunt for Bin LadenRobin MooreIn this acclaimed, groundbreaking bestseller about America’s war against al-Qaida in Afghanistan, Robin Moore–with exclusive access and his trademark expertise–takes you on a top-secret tour of the most covert conflict since the CIA’s war in Laos. This is a blistering, behind-the-scenes account of America’s first strike in its war against terrorism. From the international outrage of 9/11 to its immediate aftermath–the unprecedented Special Ops assault on Osama Bin Laden’s bases–all aspects of this astonishing story are revealed for the first time. Here is how a few hundred Green Berets toppled the Taliban and how Bin Laden may have made his escape.
In January 1964, Robin Moore went to Vietnam. He had attended Jump School at Fort Benning–with the special approval of President John F. Kennedy–and was the first and only civilian ever allowed to go through the grueling Special Forces qualification course at Fort Bragg. The result was The Green Berets, a bestselling book about a unique and remarkable group of fighting men. Robin Moore went on to write three more books about the war in Vietnam. He has also written several novels, including The French Connection; a book about terrorists in South Africa; and an exposé of the smuggling of nuclear arms from Russia after the Communist era.“Fast-paced and immensely entertaining.”
–The Washington Post Book World
“BLACK HAWK DOWN–IN THE SNOW . . . Little is held back in the sweeping reality of the text. It is all there: the pain, the suffering, the fear, thecourage, the sardonic morgue humor of war, the strength somehow found in its jaws–
and the honor in fighting the good fight.”
–MASTER SERGEANT THOMAS R. BUMBACK (Ret.)
Soldier of Fortune magazine
“A DRAMATIC AND IMPORTANT STORY.”
–New York Daily News
“GRIPPING . . . AN EXPLOSIVE TALE . . .
Moore is a good action writer.”
–The Commercial Appeal (Memphis)
“Authoritative . . . Moore guides you through volatile Afghanistan as seen through the eyes of Special Forces operators–team by team–battle by battle. IF YOUR BLOOD IS NOT STIRRED, CHANCES ARE YOU’RE RUNNING ON EMPTY.”
–MAJOR JIM MORRIS (Ret.)
Soldier of Fortune magazine
“[This book] transports you inside the beating heart of America’s war on terror, then spirals you down a main artery onto the front lines with a special Forces detachment cutting down al Qaeda terrorists. . . . By the time I finished reading The Hunt for Bin Laden, I was in awe of this force America had unleashed against our enemies. . . . The Hunt for Bin Laden has the epic style and reality of We Were Soldiers Once . . . and Young.”
–MASTER SERGEANT THOMAS R. BUMBACK (Ret.)
Soldier of Fortune magazine
“Swashbuckling . . . [Moore reaches] a kind of ground truth in his narrative of Special Forces at war: the dangerous, sometimes thrilling but unpredictable nature of combat that makes soldiers laugh bitterly at the phrase ‘military precision.’ ”
–The Washington Post Book World
“Robin Moore is back in his element. . . . The Hunt for Bin Laden offers valuable insights into the war.”
–San Diego Union-Tribune
From The Critics
The Washington Post
Like Moore's other books, The Hunt for Bin Laden is fast-paced and immensely entertaining, in a kind of "Spiderman," cartoon-strippy way. Page after page, Moore's prose reads like a defiant country-and-western anthem. "These great Army soldiers come from one singular, beautiful place," a general enthuses, "red, white and blue America."
— Jeff Stein
LANGLY: I need some help circumventing DoD's online security codes.
KIMMY: DOD? What for?
(LANGLY says nothing.)
KIMMY: Go put your daisy into somebody else's rifle, hippie. I gotta put some serious lead downrange.
LANGLY: I'm talking about government sanctioned murder, here.
KIMMY: What is this? Another one of your whacko conspiracy theories? Like "who shot JR?"
KIMMY: Whatever. My point being, you're wasting your life, man. A hacker of your calibre ought to be floating in a Silicon Valley hot tub, sipping champers and counting his IPO casho.
YVES: I guess you don't know me.
FROHIKE: Well, maybe I do (pause) Lee Harvey Oswald.
(Yves looks at him.)
FROHIKE: Your name, Yves Adele Harlow is an anagram of Lee Harvey Oswald. Some joke. I know who you really are, sugar. And I can tell the world in my (makes quote signs) silly little rag.
(Fade to black.)
Regarding the lone gunmen episode in which shadow government types remotely fly a passenger jet inot the world trade center (but are thwarted at the last moment by the lone gunmen *from the X Files).
This was a pilot for their show which ran for one breif season and it floored me to discover it aired in early 2001 almost six months before the 9-11 attacks.
Since I am one who believes in the remote controlled theory of the attacks, this also spurred my interest in WHY this show might have been aired to further the BFEE agenda.
The fact is that the shows creator has shadow government types who consult with him for his shows. This idea could have been planted and not some kind of 100th monkey idea from outside his brain.
I think it was probably due to a propaganda methodology known as "innoculation". IE the fascists plant ideas or do foreshadowing in a way which "prepares" the minds of the consuming public for the ridicule of conspiracy theorists who will say that the BFEE made 9-11 happen. That it was an inside job.
The Lone Gunman series, like the X Files, was full of ideas promoted to disparage the characters' beliefs. Mulder was always spouting off about conspiracies, the cigaret smoking man was in on the JFK assassination, and the lone gunmen themselves are ridiculed by parody in part by their name realted to the JFK assassination.
The "source" of an idea like WTC 9-11 MIHOP by the BFEE (being the mostly silly tv show) airing months before 9-11 innoculates the public to the idea that it was an inside job. "How silly. How unpatriotic. How COULD you think that". Witness the Paul Begala attack on Cynthia McKinney when she said that possibly "Bush Knew" the WTC would be attacked.
The best example of "innoculation" (a specialty of Karl Rove) in my opinion was the James Hatfield book "Fortunate Son" where Rove and other Bush insiders "leaked" the Bush cocaine arrest and comunity service story (including easily provable inaccurate details) to Hatfield knowing that he was a convicted felon. His story become noncredible to the general public because he had lied about or hidden his past. Nevermind that his facts were mostly accurate - the Bush cocaine arrest became a nonissue and the later suicided (IMO) Hatfield's credibility became the issue.
Same thing happened in the Dan Rather fiasco re: the national Guard service memo. The source (but not the story) was unreliable because of the damned font used in the document (never mind that the story was true).
So I would uge that folks not look to synchronicity or the collective unconscious for the source of many such stories like the Lone Gunmen pilot episode about a passenger jet crashing into the WTC.
These bastards KNOW what they are doing with their propaganda. Innoculation is a very effective way to COLOR the way we percieve events. Tell us a scary story. Make it seem unbelievable due to the source. And even if the story is true, we will already be subconsiously dismissing the truth of it.
'Lone Gunmen' Series Presaged 9-11
November 10, 2002
... a fascinating TV program aired March 4, 2001, on Fox that foretold the 9-11 attacks on the World Trade Center, with some fascinating twists.
In that story, a faction within the government organized a remote control takeover of a commercial airline, which it then aimed into the World Trade Center. The motive was to stimulate business for the weapons industry, which had been suffering since the end of the Cold War.
In this version of reality, the plot was discovered by a government employee who was not part of the faction, a good guy, a law-abiding citizen who worked for the government and really believed in the laws. To cut to the chase, the heroes of the story manage to thwart the disaster. One of them hacks the Defense Department computers and manages to restore the pilots' ability to manually override the remote control just moments before the plane would have crashed into the south tower.
The climactic scene shows the plane heading into the tower at night from the south, and when the manual override is restored, the pilots lift the plane, just barely missing the Trade Center. ...
The program was the pilot in a series that was spun off from The X-Files by its creator Chris Carter. The new series centers around three hackers and publishers of a conspiracy zine called "The Lone Gunmen. ....
The TV Guide story mentions that the planes were remotely piloted, saying, "Unlike the actual attacks, there was no suicide hijacker in the Gunmen climax; the terrorists attempted to remotely steer the plane into the skyscraper."
Of course since the White House has successfully blocked a thorough, independent investigation, we can't definitely rule out the possibility of remote piloting. In fact, a number of the alleged hijackers whose pictures were released by authorities almost immediately after the incident, were later found to be alive. We don't know who was on the flight, and we don't know if they knew the craft was being driven into a skyscraper.
.... The TV Guide article neglects to mention another major element of the plot. It mentions "terrorists," but never mentions that the terrorists in the story were Americans, part of the government, and they were doing it to create public support for war in order to fuel the weapons industry. This particular parallel was apparently too too disturbing to mention.
To bundle together two aphorisms, let us remember that while life imitates art, truth remains stranger than fiction. We know that the Joint Chiefs of Staff submitted a plan called Operation Northwoods during the Kennedy presidency, in which they advocated terrorist attacks in American cities in order to stir up support for an invasion of Cuba.
And just this week the CIA carried out an assassination from a drone plane, a plane with no driver, remotely controlled from the ground. And we know that remote control systems are in commercial aircraft now too. (See Drones of Death.)
Funny how a Hollywood series could anticipate the 911 scenario, but the multi-billion dollar defense and intelligence establishment was caught totally off guard. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney say no one ever thought of flying hijacked aircraft into buildings before. And they are honorable men. So are they all, all honorable men.
1) The 1954 launch of the first nuclear submarine 'Nautilus' was paralleled by Disney's '20,000 Leagues Under the Sea' movie based on the Jules Verne book and the US sub's name was taken from the book. Life hijacks art.
professorpan wrote:Your descent into self-parody is becoming so dull and predictable it's not worth commenting.
professorpan wrote:Hugh, can you point to any film or TV show from the past forty years that wasn't a propaganda psyop? I'm serious in asking this.
And you clearly didn't watch Star Trek or you'd realize how utterly wrong you are. The reason the show is so popular is that it pointed to a cooperative, peaceful, positive future. Again, your narrow field of vision and cherry-picking clouds any objective analysis.
Wow, one of your relatives works at NASA? He must be ONE OF THEM! After all, all that stuff about space exploration, the study of Earth's atmosphere, sending probes to other planets --- nothing but pure EVIL!
Maybe if you had a TV and watched the program in question you could actually have a clue about what you're talking about.
Hey, you're getting spittle on my monitor. lol.
professorpan wrote:You're ignoring all the positive themes in Trek. Many of the episodes were topical and dealt with racism, speciesism, war, and so forth.
They were written by some of the top science fiction writers of the time.
Were those writers also in the employ of the CIA?
Issue 10.10 | Oct 2002
I Fought the Future for the CIA
It started with an email from a friend, asking if I was available to visit �a certain Washington agency.� There soon followed a flurry of messages from people I didn�t know � some of them bearing that most shadowy of return addresses: ucia.gov. And then a weighty package in the mail, bursting with federal documents, and then forms and disclaimers.
The truth is out there: The author, serving his country with top-secret science fiction.
My mission, should I choose to accept it: sit in a room full of fellow sci-fi writers and help imagine, shall we say, things that might someday go bump. But first there was a definite moment of double take, and then a scramble to confirm that this wasn�t some elaborate hoax. Because, like, the CIA needs my advice on scariness?
Let�s face it: The FBI, the NSA, and even Israel�s Mossad are second-rate bogeymen. When it comes to the paranoid fantasies of hit lists and ESP drugs, gigabuck dope deals, and orbiting mind-control lasers, the Agency rules. Then again, it�s not entirely unprecedented for bureaucrats to draw inspiration from science fiction. Fed techies are as likely to read the stuff as any other geeks, and a few at NASA and the DOD even write it.
WANTED: MY DARKEST IDEAS
As I plowed through the last of the prereading on the flight out, I couldn�t shake a grudging sense that the federal government, for all its faults, really is grappling with the new realities. �Libertarians,� a friend had warned me, �are awed by real government. Just like egalitarians are awed by royalty.�
I won�t tell you where the meeting was held. I�ve done government work before and have a collection of expired clearances, although in this case it�s not classified data that binds me. It�s just that I promised not to betray our hosts by blabbing unnecessarily.
I will say that finding the right room was simply a matter of following the suits and uniforms through some double doors to a round table set with name placards. I won�t tell you whose names were on those placards, and I especially won�t repeat what I heard in there. The blinds were lowered, the doors closed, and that was that. Eight hours later we emerged, paler than we went in, and tapes of our conversations were carried away in a sealed plastic bag. Imagination concentrate: Do not add water.
From those tapes will spring transcripts and minutes, and eventually a summary document � all of which probably will be classified. The Agency produces millions of pages every year. But in the way of such things, this info will filter up through layers of bureaucracy, summarized and resummarized, until some ghost of it impinges on policy. And in the circle of a few hundred people who encounter our raw input, decisions will be subtly influenced. At the very least, the butterfly effect ensures that we�ve made some kind of difference, rippling out into the future.
When it was all over, we were handed goodie bags from the CIA gift shop. Later, over dinner, we sci-fi writers were fussing with bills and receipts, fretting over the expense forms we�d have to submit, when something strange happened: A red, white, and blue flicker of nerdy patriotism showed through our jaded facades. �You know,� someone said quietly, �if none of this was reimbursed, I�d have come out here anyway, on my own nickel.�
There were nods and murmurs all around the table, and someone else added: �I said yes before they�d even finished asking. This is my country, you know? Who doesn�t want to help?� I couldn�t imagine.
- Wil McCarthy
Again, if you knew what you were talking about you'd see that you are incorrect.
But you admit you only saw a few episodes, and only when you were a kid. Tis a pity.
It's a great show with a positive view of humanity's future.
I was flattered and happy to receieve warm compliments on the radio yesterday, and via email from my 9/11 truth colleagues, but I was also sobered by an email that said-
"you were getting dissed tonight on kpfk at 12:30am, by a guy named daniel something or other
he said you were getting paid to put out disinformation!"
Does anyone know if Daniel Hopsicker was the guy on KPFK? He has attacked me before. It does seem like there are elements within the 9/11 truth movement that are spending more energy on attacking one another than those who did 9/11. John Albanese is working on a film looking at Cointelpro efforts to destroy the movement. I guess we should be flattered that we are succeeding and having so much impact that we actually merit being fought "tooth and nail."
The more serious threat, sadly, comes from Hollywood, where big names and big producers are churning out "CIA Propaganda."
My friend called me today and urged me, and others to lobby Oliver Stone to not do the proposed CIA flick (Here is the email she sent me awhile back...)
Dear friends of Afghanistan,
Beginning in 1992 we've worked with Oliver Stone to develop an Afghanistan story based on our experience and research. There is nobody in Hollywood who has been better briefed on the deep complexities and American responsibilities than Oliver surrounding the Afghan story. Rather than take on the challenging and complex story that every American needs to know, Oliver has chosen to make his Afghanistan film based on Jawbreaker, a book by a CIA officer who helped topple the Taliban. It's particularly tragic that Oliver should choose this story given that the Taliban are on the rise again!
We've included below the letter Sima Wali sent to Oliver... Please send your own letter and feel free to pass this information along.
Paul & Liz
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Oliver Stone
1207 4th Street PH 1
Santa Monica, CA 90401
November 7, 2006
Dear Mr. Stone,
I was shocked to read that you have chosen to make a film about Afghanistan based on Gary Bernsten’s Jawbreaker. The world does not need another film from the perspective of the intelligence operatives who set this tragedy in motion in the first place. In Robert Dreyfuss's Devil’s Game How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam, the truth of the US role in creating Afghanistan’s travail today is laid bare. "In Afghanistan, we made a deliberate choice," says Cheryl Benard, a RAND Corporation expert on political Islam, who is married to Zalmay Khalilzad, who served as U.S. ambassador in Kabul. "At first, everyone thought, There's no way to beat the Soviets. So what we have to do is to throw the worst crazies against them that we can find, and there was a lot of collateral damage. We knew exactly who these people were, and what their organizations were like, and we didn't care," she says. "Then, we allowed them to get rid of, just kill all the moderate leaders. The reason we don't have moderate leaders in Afghanistan today is because we let the nuts kill them all. They killed the leftists, the moderates, the middle-of-the-roaders. They were just eliminated, during the 1980s and afterward."
I understand that Tom Hanks is in production for Charlie Wilson’s War, a telling that lionizes the wild-west fantasy world of the Mujihadeen freedom fighters. Robert DeNiro has the rights to former CIA Station Chief in Pakistan during the Reagan Administration Milt Bearden’s book The Main Enemy that continues to glorify these operatives while revealing nothing of the role of their puppeteers.
As I work to resurrect Afghanistan from the ashes of the Cold War that destroyed my homeland, I’ve come to realize it is the ignorance of the US role by Americans that is my biggest obstacle. These films will set an understanding of the atrocity to the Afghan people back a century.
I ask you to please not use your great talent to add to the misery of my people.
Sima Wali, President
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