guruilla » Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:44 pm wrote:The correlation with brekin on LC is a good one, since brekin made the claim that he could analyze Neil Diamond's life and come up with as many suggestive correspondences as I had on LC. I considered asking him to show me, but decided not to bother. I really don't think he could (unless ND is an operative), whereas at first glace (granting that I haven't given the website and the larger work being done enough attention to say with any certainty), the correspondences in the screen shots and those you've mentioned above, seem to me like the sort of correspondences that are going to show up eventually
anywhere, simply by looking hard enough.
Having read the whole thing, & spent some time in the trenches of number & correspondence myself, I just have to disagree. It's not a matter of 'looking hard enough,' implying that the connections are loose or weren't there to begin with. It's simply a matter of looking, full stop. The correlations really just jump out at you. There are four primary numbers shawnfella looks at: 42, 153, 237, & 666. Save for 237, these numbers come straight from the Bible, so it's not as if they were plucked randomly from the air. They had already been seeded into the aether, so to speak, in the founding document of Western civilization no less. A control experiment along the lines of the Neil Diamond suggestion would be for someone to take four completely random numbers (one two-digit & three three-digit) & try to do the same type of analysis done by shawnfella with anywhere close to the same amount of success. Like you w/r/t Diamond, I don't believe it could be done.
I'll give you an example that struck me as particularly uncanny. A while back on your forum you posted a link to a declassified document (
this one) that mentions Kubrick as a promising possible hire for some vague project. Obviously, thoughts of the Apollo hoax come to mind. I happened to notice that the document is dated June 4, 1965. Since this document, with a little context, implies a literal connection between Kubrick & the Apollo program, I figured that, if shawnfella's theory were to hold, there would very likely be some significant numerical-temporal relationship. So I decided to look up the length of time between the date on that document & the launch-date of Apollo 11 on July 16, 1969. I chose Apollo 11's launch because, not only was it the launch day of the first (allegedly) successful moon-landing (directed by Kubrick, also allegedly), it also has special significance for Kubrick's overt career, being the day that he specified for the release of
Eyes Wide Shut, thirty years later. It's also the same day on which the first Atomic Bomb test was successfully carried out in 1945, so it's a particularly loaded day from a ritualist/occult theater perspective.
Anyway, it turns out the interval from June 4, 1965 to July 16, 1969 works out to exactly
1503 days. 153. What are the odds on that? The point is that I wasn't looking particularly hard... I didn't try ten different dates before I found one that fit, & I didn't have to make it fit. I found it on my first try, because I just 'had a feeling,' & that feeling bore out quite spectacularly, IMO. And it continues to do so.
So where this relates to Kubrickon, and how I think I diverge from those sifting through his work for these sorts of correspondences, has to do with whether or not the sifter believes that these correspondences were consciously orchestrated, or placed there, by Kubrick or by any human agency other than that of their own hyper-focused attention. If they do believe that, then it will be hard for them to agree about my Kubrickon hypothesis, and equally hard for me to have a conversation with them about what they are doing, because chances are they will think I am disparaging it, and chances are they will be right. I do feel my inner eye rolling when I see these sorts of wild reaching after correspondences. On the other hand, I'm not a card-carrying rationalist, and the Jung/Kubrick correspondence appealed to me because a) it is clear and large enough to signify something without requiring a leap of imagination that only the True Believer would be able to take; and b) it is not likely to ever be interpreted as happening by human design.
The thing about agency is the $125,000 question, & opens up a whole can of worms that's probably left to discuss for another day (I gotta go to work real soon). It certainly is difficult to accept that these precise temporal-numeric correspondences could be orchestrated by any kind of conscious human agency, as to do so would require essentially God-like abilities, namely the ability to control & manipulate time itself. That is hard to accept, but to me it's even more difficult to accept that such precise correspondences are just a product of hyper-focused attention. It's not just pareidolia. It seems (to me) to indicate an underlying architecture to History itself (whether that History has been projected by consciousness or not) that we have yet to understand.
I have to go, but thank you for sharing that excerpt from your novel. As someone who has long fantasized about writing a novel about all of this weirdness myself, it's inspiring, & I'm excited by the prospect of reading the rest.