New photo up on The Johnny Gosch Foundation site

[sunny]

et:

Do you feel the Gosch riddle has an actual solution?

Yes, if Gannon really were Gosch. With his high profile, he could get attention for the story he could tell. Other than that, I doubt it.

[FourthBase]

I'm among those who've spent a lot of time thinking and researching the Gosch milieu. I've even contacted Noreen (which then freaked me out and I didn't post here for about a year). I think the Gosch case has an actual solution, yes. (FWIW, I think everything does, though.) I think what we (think we) know about Gosch might have only 10% to do with figuring it all out, though. IMO Gannon has zero direction connection to the Gosch case.

[Et in Arcadia ego]

I've even contacted Noreen (which then freaked me out and I didn't post here for about a year).

Ah, I remember your absence. I hate getting freaked out; it's happened to me several times.

Feel free to share that experience with her here or in PM if you'd like; I'm very interested in hearing what you have to say about it.

[Jeff]

Do you feel the Gosch riddle has an actual solution?

Yes, but I'm confident I'll never know what it is. And I even wonder if we really know the right riddle.

[Et in Arcadia ego]

Yes, if Gannon really were Gosch. With his high profile, he could get attention for the story he could tell.

Gannon has no story to tell, Sunny. If he is Gosch, he's a part of the Machine now and has been for some time. By this I mean he revels in his role, if indeed he plays one at all.

No story is ever going to come from that direction. If he has a story, he's now part of the Problem. One of Them. And if he's one of Them, nothing he says can be trusted anyways, which brings me back to the looping sequence with no way out.

Icky.

[Et in Arcadia ego]

Do you feel the Gosch riddle has an actual solution?

Yes, but I'm confident I'll never know what it is. And I even wonder if we really know the right riddle.

Shooting in the dark here.

Way Left Field Theory 01:

Noreen has a connection to the wrong people, like the Ramseys' alleged connection to the Military/Industrial Cabal. Something is offered by her to a certain party, but just like what *could possibly have* happened with the Ramseys, more is taken than was anticipated or agreed upon. Motivated by guilt but not directly responsible, and still colored by the inherent flaw that allowed something bad in the first place to take place, she posts extremely inappropriate bondage images of her own child on the internet.

Am I miles off here? Has anyone pondered the potential role of this woman in her own child's kidnapping?

[sunny]

Gannon has no story to tell, Sunny. If he is Gosch, he's a part of the Machine now and has been for some time. By this I mean he revels in his role, if indeed he plays one at all.

No story is ever going to come from that direction. If he has a story, he's now part of the Problem. One of Them. And if he's one of Them, nothing he says can be trusted anyways, which brings me back to the looping sequence with no way out.

Icky.

I agree. I haven't believed Gannon is Gosch for some time-which is why I don't think the truth will ever be exposed to the larger public.

But we do know the truth. It is in Paul Bonacci's testimony. I know he won his suit by default, but the judge stated in his opinion that PB was telling the truth.

The truth we have, it's justice we are lacking.

[Jeff]

Am I miles off here? Has anyone pondered the potential role of this woman in her own child's kidnapping?

Myself, no. Though I know she's alleged her husband played some role, so that could support your Ramsey analogy.

On the evidence of her website and trust of figures such as Gunderson, I'd rather say her judgement has been impaired. But that's chiefly because I'd rather think so.

[Et in Arcadia ego]

But that's chiefly because I'd rather think so.

Exactly. Your(not you particularly, Jeff) own values play a large role in how you interpret the actions of others. This becomes a problem, though, when you try to use your own moral system as a template against another person's actions. It's a flawed approach, but one we automatically employ for it's convenience.

When I'm trying to understand something that someone has(or may have) done, the first thing I do is filter out my own behavioral patterns and assume that a person is capable of anything for any reason, then I work backwards from there and try to narrow down a motive free of my own bias.

Because of this, I have a hard time eliminating *someone* near Gosch as not being involved, maybe the father, as you say, I don't know.

[sunny]

I have a hard time believing Noreen had anything to do with it. If she did, what could she possibly hope to gain by trying so hard to expose the connection to organized pedo rings? Her involvemnet with Gunderson just makes me feel sorry that she's being handled by a suspected disinfo agent-it doesn't detract from her overall efforts.

[sunny]

Conversely, maybe Johnny's disappearance had nothing to do with pedo rings, and Paul Bonacci was a complete liar and Noreen is using this angle as a distraction. What would Noreen's role have been in a kidnapping scenario having nothing to do with pedo rings?

[chiggerbit]

But we do know the truth. It is in Paul Bonacci's testimony. I know he won his suit by default, but the judge stated in his opinion that PB was telling the truth.

Has anybody ever really dug into to that to verify that that court trial even happened?

[Et in Arcadia ego]

What would Noreen's role have been in a kidnapping scenario having nothing to do with pedo rings?

One that would insure maximum smoke screen by pushing pedo ring focus, I'd imagine.

[Et in Arcadia ego]

Lemme ask another question:

Who else that we know of had a child kidnapped and was sent material of a period of decades like this? There's no ransom details, no details at all that I'm aware of. Has anyone else been a recipient of this kind of thing?

Reason I ask is because if there is a ring, I would think that other parents would have received similar material.

What is it that makes this case unique in that way?

[Et in Arcadia ego]

One other thing I have to posit here.

In these images of the bound kid, has anyone else gotten the impression that the subject is tied too neatly? I mean, if I was being kidnapped, I'd be thrashing around all over the place scared shitless and constantly working at my bonds.

He looks neither scared nor like he's tried to get loose or even made trouble being tied up. In some of the pictures, he doesn't look troubled at all.

Like maybe he knows his captor and doesn't believe he's in real danger.

Or maybe even staged altogether.