John deCamp

[chiggerbit]

I know this connection I'm thinking about is pretty tenuous. but deCamp was/is pretty thick with Gunderson, and Gunderson has made claims about him and Riconniscuito(?) being involved at Indio, which was a Wackenhut project. And on Wackenhut's board have been one or two familiar names, such as Robert E. Chasen. And then there are a couple of Nichols names involved at Indio (which I need to check which is which). Meanwhile, on the list of names of past Commissioners of Customs (remember, a federal department)are Robert E. Chasen and Philip Nichols, Jr.

Ok, I'm probably being about as clear as mud, and I know it's a stretch, but what caught my attention was this paragraph from something written by deCamp:

According to deCamp, regarding the documentary Conspiracy of Silence:

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel ... 202&page=2

3. When the broadcast tape was sent to the United States, Customs officials seized the documentary and held it up as being "pornographic material." Attorneys for Discovery Channel and Yorkshire TV were able to get the documentary released.

Could Wackenhut have known about this documentary and could they have pulled any strings with the customs Department? ( Although I'd sure like to see some sort of documentation that the film actually got held up.)


http://www.textfiles.com/conspiracy/inslaw4.txt

Further, the 1983 board [of Wackenhut]
included Robert Chasen, a former FBI special agent who was Carter's
commissioner of customs until 1980, when he became a vice president
of Wackenhut.

http://www.worldstatesmen.org/USA_govt.html

Past Commissioners of Customs

1961 - 1964 Philip Nichols, Jr.
1977 - 1980 Robert E. Chasen

[chiggerbit]

Coss-posting from the Gunderson thread:

http://www.free-conversant.com/realtruth/1321

By 1965 , Wackenhut was boasting to potential investors that the company maintained files on 2.5 million suspected dissidents one in 46 American adults then living.
Richard Babayan, a CIA contract employee, told SPY magazine that "Wackenhut has been used by the CIA and other intelligence agencies for years. When they [the CIA] need cover, Wackenhut is there to provide it for them." CIA agent, Bruce Berckmans, told SPY that he had seen a formal proposal submitted by George Wackenhut to the CIA offering Wackenhut offices throughout the world as fronts for CIA activities. In 1981, Berckmans joined with other senior Wackenhut executives to form the company's Special Projects Division. It was this division that linked up with exCIA man Dr. John Phillip Nichols, the Cabazon tribal administrator, in pursuit of a scheme to manufacture explosives, poison gas and biological weapons for export to the contras and other communist fighting rebels worldwide. SPY also printed testimony from William Corbett, a 18 years CIA analyst stating: "For years Wackenhut has been involved with the CIA and other intelligence organizations, including the DEA. Wackenhut would allow the CIA to occupy positions within the company [in order to carry out] clandestine operations."
"Current and Former Wackenhut Directors," SPY published the following names: "John Ammarell, former FBI agent; Robert Chasen, former FBI agent; Clarence Kelly, former FBI director; Willis Hawkins, former assistant secretary of the Army; Paul X. Kelley, fourstar general (ret.), U.S. Marine Corps; Seth McKee, former commander in chief, North American Air Defense Command; Bernard Schriever, former member, President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board; Frank Carlucci, former Defense Secretary and former deputy CIA director; Joseph Carroll, former director, Defense Intelligence Agency; James Rawley, former director, U.S. Secret Service; Bobby Ray Inman, former deputy CIA director."

[chiggerbit]

It would be interesting to see how often the word "customs" shows up with regards to the Indio organization.

[chiggerbit]

http://tinyurl.com/yjsjjwz

....According to the book The Octopus: Secret Government and the Death of Danny Casolaro by Kenn Thomas and Jim Keith casolaro had identified a core group of individuals operating within the national security apparatus and their influence in post WW II political history:


Danny Casolaro believed the Octopus responsible for criminal conspiracies, which, linked, formed a virtual history of intelligence double dealing from 1950 to the present. These events, in Casolaro’s view, included the ousters of US President Richard Nixon, Australian Prime Minister Gough Whitlam, the Shah of Iran, and the murders of Chilean President Allende, and of course, of President John F. Kennedy. Casolaro saw the Octopus’ tentacles entwined throughout the creation of the Golden Triangle and the Latin American drug trade, the Cuban Bay of Pigs debacle, the October Surprise, the BCCI banking scandal, and, almost as an afterthought, the theft of PROMIS software.

Casolaro found a “Secret Team”, a high cabal of players operating a clandestine, parallel government, identified previously by other writers [Col. L. Fletcher Prouty]. The cabal had operated beyond the control or scrutiny of elected government, financed by drug-running from Southeast Asia and the Americas.

Other researchers tended to see the Octopus as a fog of political crimes ascribed to the alphabet soup of intelligence agencies, institutions or even the modern terrorist state and its citizenry. Casolaro’s Octopus, however, was no grand, unified mega-conspiracy theory. Casolaro believed the crimes could best be identified by linking them to a small network of named individuals that made up his Octopus. He outlined their hierarchy and provided specific detail about their behind-the-scenes role in contemporary political history.

Casolaro named people both familiar and unfamiliar to other researchers. He deemed the “first level” operatives to be Richard Helms, George Pender, John Philip Nichols and Ray Cline. The second level included Robert Chasen, E. Howard Hunt, Edwin Wilson, Thomas Clines and Ted Shackley. Working backward from the PROMIS theft, Casolaro saw them in a new relationship, a nearly organic entity that impacted both past and then current events....

[JM]

I was asked to post this by a woman who stepped into this from a separate case.
I told her to keep trying to get on here or maybe Jeff could help??



Hi Jacque,

I've tried to log on and register for RI three times and can't seem to get it to take. Yesterday I had a big yellow and red notice on my computer that said "suspicious activity has been detected on your account...... Followed by, "Yahoo messenger's Chat has been disabled so your computer could be accessed by another computer or other remote device." So, my hacking pals are back. I wanted to post the following on the DeCamp thread because I think it's important.

These are from John DeCamp's own mouth, May of 08.

Operation Babylift was not about saving babies. After his election to the Senate DeCamp went back to Vietnam to see if he could arrange to go into the mountains to retrieve, Nga - his current wife. Americans were not welcome in Vietnam but according to DeCamp, "I was a powerful Senator so I made a trade. I would arrange for C130 transport planes to come in and remove the unwanted Amerasian bastard children from Vietnam and would make the Vietnamese leadership look "good" and they would send out a military unit to retrieve Nga so I could marry her."

Also, DeCamp was raised in Totem Town, which is like Boys Town but is located in Minnesota. DeCamp went from Totem Town to Persia (Iran), where he learned to speak Farsi. At this point he said, in farsi, "Women are for childbirth, boys are for fun." Both DeCamp and his paralegal, Gregory Tyrell thought this was hysterical.

With regard to the photos and DeCamp. According to DeCamp, the hullabaloo was not over a photo of his child in a bathtub but was a photo of DeCamp and his daughter, who was 14, in his swimming pool. (I don't know if he has a pool, but Jan has been to his home so she would know.)

So, DeCamp speaks Farsi and the whole Franklin thing came out during the time of the Iran-Contra crap. What role did Colby play in the Iran-Contra stuff? Might be some hints there.

Also, I was told that the LaRouche organization has a great deal of damaging information on all sorts of people. I was seeking clarification so I called them, wanting to speak to Jeffrey Steinberg but ending up with Jon Asher. While speaking DeCamp's name came up and Asher said that the LaRouche organization helped DeCamp write his book and that they were the ones who published it. In his latest edition DeCamp mentions Anton Chaitkin, who is a LaRouchie. So DeCamp is tied to the LaRouchie's, who published his book and according to them, helped him write it.

A taped recording of a CIA Analyst who worked on the Johnny Gosch case is quite interesting. (His name is Paul Bishop) Bishop says that he was asked to get involved because he had some unique qualifications....he is a pedophile. He said that you can't send someone in to infiltrate something like a pedophile ring if they are not a pedophile because they will be expected to have sex with the children, in front of others, and so there is no room for "faking" or pretending. Given DeCamp's life in Totem Town, his remarks about boys being for fun, his ability to get close to the pedo politics and his admission that the photo in question had something to do with his daughter and his swimming pool...makes me wonder a whole lot more about the character of John DeCamp and whether or not he himself is a pedophile.

Also, is there anyone out there who can confirm that Colby and DeCamp were good friends? It's really convenient to write that Colby was his bff when Colby is dead and can't set the record straight. Some of the interviews with DeCamp have him exhibiting a rather callous attitude toward his "friend", though DeCamp is a crass and crude little man.

I've been in his office, Jacque. There was no law going on in there. None. DeCamp's book promotes a mythical person of integrity. DeCamp admits Operation Babylift was different than what is on his book. How much of the rest is crap and nonsense?

Don't know how to get this onto RI, but since I was sitting there with him, recorded some of what he had to say (tape ran out)....this might shed some light on who he really is and what he was really trying to do with the LaRouchie's.

~M

[chiggerbit]

Wiki says about DCI Colby:

William Colby 1973–1976

Colby was another intelligence professional who was promoted to the top job. His autobiography was entitled "Honorable Men", and he believed that a nation had to believe such people made up its intelligence service.[6] In December 1974, Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh broke the news of the "Family Jewels" in a front-page article in The New York Times, revealing that the CIA had assassinated foreign leaders, and had conducted surveillance on some seven thousand American citizens involved in the antiwar movement (Operation CHAOS).

Congress responded to the "Family Jewels" in 1975, investigating the CIA in the Senate via the Church Committee, chaired by Senator Frank Church (D-Idaho), and in the House of Representatives via the Pike Committee, chaired by Congressman Otis Pike (D-NY). President Gerald Ford created the aforementioned Rockefeller Commission, and issued an Executive Order prohibiting the assassination of foreign leaders.

Colby's tenure as DCI congressional investigations into alleged U.S. intelligence malfeasance over the preceding twenty-five years. Colby cooperated, not out of a desire for major reforms, but in the belief that the actual scope of such misdeeds was not great enough to cause lasting damage to the CIA's reputation. He believed that cooperating with Congress was the only way to save the Agency from dissolution. Colby also believed that the CIA had a moral obligation to cooperate with the Congress and demonstrate that the CIA was accountable to the Constitution. This caused a major rift within the CIA ranks, with many old-line officers such as former DCI Richard Helms believing that the CIA should have resisted congressional intrusion.

Colby's time as DCI was also eventful on the world stage. Shortly after he assumed leadership, the Yom Kippur War broke out, an event that surprised not only the American intelligence agencies but also the Israelis. This intelligence surprise reportedly affected Colby's credibility with the Nixon Administration. Meanwhile, after many years of involvement, South Vietnam fell to Communist forces in April 1975, a particularly difficult blow for Colby, who had dedicated so much of his life and career to the American effort there. Events in the arms control field, Angola, the Middle East, and elsewhere also demanded attention.

William Colby's death, officially in a boating accident, happened on the same date when a New York prosecutor got permission to set up a grand jury to investigate the role of the CIA in the death of Frank Olson who worked at Fort Detrick, Maryland and was involved in chemical warfare research. Frank Olson was one of the experimental subjects in the CIA MKULTRA experiments with LSD and other drugs. He did not give informed consent for the CIA to experiment on him, as would be ethically required under the medical research principles of the Declaration of Helsinki. The CIA claimed that he committed suicide by jumping out of a hotel window but the family did not believe this explanation. An autopsy of the remains of Frank Olson had found blunt force trauma to the head, which might have come from the fall, or been inflicted before the fall. The Olson matter remains unresolved and continues to arise in reviews of questionable activities.

[chiggerbit]

A taped recording of a CIA Analyst who worked on the Johnny Gosch case is quite interesting. (His name is Paul Bishop) Bishop says that he was asked to get involved because he had some unique qualifications....he is a pedophile.

The last I heard was that Bishop was in prison, for just that reason. I remember Noreen Gosch said that she'd get calls from Bishop, apparently made from Senator Grassley's office. Hmmmm....

[Free]

Chiggerbit wrote:

Wiki quote

Colby's tenure as DCI congressional investigations into alleged U.S. intelligence malfeasance over the preceding twenty-five years. Colby cooperated, not out of a desire for major reforms, but in the belief that the actual scope of such misdeeds was not great enough to cause lasting damage to the CIA's reputation. He believed that cooperating with Congress was the only way to save the Agency from dissolution. Colby also believed that the CIA had a moral obligation to cooperate with the Congress and demonstrate that the CIA was accountable to the Constitution. This caused a major rift within the CIA ranks, with many old-line officers such as former DCI Richard Helms believing that the CIA should have resisted congressional intrusion.

An interesting (and time-worn) strategy, that advances an agenda of containment of the revelations in order to minimize the damage done by them.

[Jeff]

From the Bryant book, page 143:

Ironically, the first media onslaught that staggered Caradori's investigation wouldn't be incited by law enforcement but, rather, by a memo from John DeCamp.

The DeCamp memo publicly named for the first time the central figures of the scandal. DeCamp contended in his own book "If it had not been for that memo, there would not even be a grand jury investigation today."

Gary Cardori, however, became increasingly agitated about the memo, because the media frenzy it incited created an unfavorable ripple effect for his investigation - he found it more and more difficult to coax victims and others who had information to come forward. (Bryant)

[American Dream]

Hopefully this is not a digression but is somehow relevant to the topic(s) at hand:

From: Nick Bryant
>> Date: Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:42:07 PM America/New_York
>> To: OWinfrey@harpo.com
>> Subject: I watched today's Oprah...
>>
>>> on the abducted children, and I saw Johnny Gosch's name and face
>>> appear on the screen. My book addresses his abduction starting on
>>> page 504.
>>>
>>> You also had an interview with Patty Wetterling: I've had two sources
>>> tell me that the same crew abducted Jacob Wetterling.
>>>
>>> I believe that both abductees are probably alive and, perhaps,
>>> findable, but, I guess, it doesn't matter what I believe--I'm just a
>>> guy who spent 7 years and traveled 40,000 miles investigating child
>>> trafficking in the U.S., thinking that I could make a difference.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Nick Bryant

[chiggerbit]

by a memo from John DeCamp.

Does anyone have a copy of that memo?

[JM]

Gary Cardori, however, became increasingly agitated about the memo, because the media frenzy it incited created an unfavorable ripple effect for his investigation - he found it more and more difficult to coax victims and others who had information to come forward. (Bryant)[/quote]

Right. Kathleen Sorenson and Kirsten Hallberg told me exactly that in 1985. They felt DeCamp's involvement would destroy the case.

[Project Willow]

I believe that both abductees are probably alive and, perhaps,
>>> findable, but, I guess, it doesn't matter what I believe--I'm just a
>>> guy who spent 7 years and traveled 40,000 miles investigating child
>>> trafficking in the U.S., thinking that I could make a difference.

Wow AD, thanks for sharing, or rather thanks Nick for sharing I presume, he gave his permission, or was that posted somewhere publicly?

Imagine the scenario, you're Johnny Gosch, still alive, you want your mother to know, but you can't come forward or you'll be killed. The only way to do it, try to find 2 or 3 trustworthy intermediaries to deliver messages in non-tech traceable ways to Noreen. Then she can't ever let on she's seen or talked to you. What a nightmare.

[Project Willow]

So, Jackie and others, then why did DeCamp write his Franklin book?

[Jeff]

by a memo from John DeCamp.

Does anyone have a copy of that memo?

DeCamp's book includes a lengthy excerpt (pages 91-93). It should be available in this pdf version.

This is interesting. On page 94:

Rumors started reaching me, that I was going to be sued by various people.

Finally a close friend of mine, who is a prominent reporter in Nebraska and whom I agreed not to name in this book, came to me privately to say that an agreement had been reached among the various individuals I had named in the memo, and others, for Peter Citron to be the one to sue me. The purpose would be to destroy me in full view of the public, and to repudiate the DeCamp memo.

Truth put a crimp in that plan. Not long after the message was delivered to me, Peter Citron was charged with sex crimes involving male minors in the Omaha area.

DeCamp claims this as a triumph of his memo, but reading Bryant, it's seems more like something else:

Within days of Citron's arrest, the Committee requested that Douglas County law enforcement provide the Committee with the evidence it had collected from its investigation of Citron. But Douglas County Attorney Ronald Staskiewicz refused to assist the Committee - he contended that imparting information to the Committee would "jeopardize" the Douglas County investigation of Citron and also the upcoming "grand jury investigation." Schmit responded by saying he considered Citron to be a "small fry" in the Franklin hierarchy of perpetrators, and he was annoyed by law enforcement's chasing of "straw men."

Citron would be allowed to plead "no contest" to two counts of felony child molestation.... But under the terms of Citron's plea agreement, he would be absolved of additional charges stemming from the OPD's seizure of his cache of child pornography. So, ultimately, Citron never had to face the music for his kiddy porn collection. In addition to the magazines, Citron had a considerable ensemble of Polaroid pictures, videos, and 8-millemeter films...[for which he could have been sentenced to] decades in prison. ...

...Citron had a history of child molestation, his name turned up on a list of individuals receiving kiddy porn through the mail, but federal and state law enforcement had ignored him until his name surfaced in connection with Franklin - they nonetheless vowed that Citron was not actually connected to the scandal.

Though Douglas County Attorney Ronald Staskiewicz and Assisstant Douglas County Attorney Bob Sigler continued to insist the charges against Citron weren't Franklin-related, they never allowed the Committee to scrutinize the evidence impounded from Citron's home - even after he was sentenced and the state's grand jury had been dismissed. In fact, Citron's profuse stock of kiddy porn would be conveniently sealed when he was sentenced.

DeCamp named in his memo:

Harold Andersen, the just-retired editor of the Omaha World Herald
Robert Wadman, Omaha Police Chief
Alan Baer, financier
Larry King, Franklin CEO

and

Peter Citron, restaurant reviewer and entertainment columnist, who had a record of molestation dating back 25 years to a charge in NYC.

Gee, Mr DeCamp - an agreement had been reached among the various individuals I had named in the memo, and others, for Peter Citron to be the one to sue me - who would have thought it!