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Searcher08 wrote:Jackie, thank you for that great reply - your comment
"CoIntelPro" which I thought at the time was a pay telephone business
was hysterical
I found what you had written very useful, because it served to 'de-mystify' many of the characters in this, a bit like meeting the Corleone family in the context of a wedding rather than finding a note fro them on a horses head under ones pillow.
I found RBN's film comment to you really interesting and surprising, because 'House of Cards' was a brilliant but very English (BBC) political drama.
I wonder if this reminds you of someone? The actor based his performance on Richard III's character btw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylu3x72WHTs
Are you still in touch with any of these folks?
I saw a strange TV report (on desertfae's youtube channel) about RBN expiring in Switzerland recently.
Free wrote:Hi Jackie. Thanks for sharing with us. It's greatly appreciated.
In 1999, Brice Taylor presented at the SMART conference. At that time she was in close contact with Ted Gunderson and she urged all the survivors at the conference to write out everything they had remembered and send what they wrote to tg because "he was going to keep us all safe." She said that she had explained this self-protection system (i.e. depositing information with tg as an "insurance policy") to a high level law enforcement person and he had been impressed and told her "Little lady, I think you have the government by the balls."
In other words she was making a hard sell to everyone in attendance. I also heard that she was sharing an apartment in Las Vegas with tg. Can you tell us anything more about this situation?
I am sure he was going to keep someone safe but more likely some perps rather than victims and survivors. They likely have a system in place where he reads these testimonials and decides which ones pose a danger to those he protects and those are the victims and survivors he goes after, presenting himself as their friend and then proceeding to muddy their waters so badly that they end up worse off than they were before and helpless to do anything about it.
Free wrote:Percival wrote:I am sure he was going to keep someone safe but more likely some perps rather than victims and survivors. They likely have a system in place where he reads these testimonials and decides which ones pose a danger to those he protects and those are the victims and survivors he goes after, presenting himself as their friend and then proceeding to muddy their waters so badly that they end up worse off than they were before and helpless to do anything about it.
Thanks Percival. Sure, of course...and after reading the survivor accounts and passing them along there was also probably "a whole lot of shredding going on."...
1999 was when Brice was launching her "Thanks for the Memories" book. I guess I'm curious about her role and if she was more of a "duped, mc'd pawn" or working as part of a disinformation alliance and campaign.
streeb wrote:Percival, you've mentioned your own experiences with tg. Would you mind elaborating on that? Thanks.
JM wrote:Do you believe to this day that there were indeed tunnels under that school and that there was large scale and organized abuse of children?
BUT I MUST ADD that the MAIN REASON I am skeptical of the McMartian case is because of the involvement of Gunderson, that is what turned me off the most and the things you tell us here about him tells me all I need to know about his intentions.
[/quote]Thank you!!!
That is what I have been trying to get across. gunderson hung around the project-he was NEVER hired as he tells people. It was my fault. I was the one who wanted to hire an archaeologist and I allowed gunderson to be there. The other parents were not too happy with it.
You may notice that he has quit talking about it quite so much. I offered to sue him.
he was giving a talk in Chino, CA-close enough for me to attend. I called the organizer and told her that gunderson had nothing to do with my case. She told him not to show up. He showed up anyway with several boxes full of a letter he wrote. When I walked in with my large friend, he was at the podium. his jaw dropped and he started stuttering. There were about 20 or so nicely dressed older ladies. One of them yelled at him that she didn't believe what he was saying. ted- through the microphone-accused her of being "illuminati" The meeting went downhill fast.
Tthe letter he wrote has been posted.
Yes, the archaeologist did find remnants of extensive tunnel system under the foundation of the preschool building.
A year after the project (1991) I called a meeting of the archaeologists, artifact verification specialist, geologist s, etc (10 in all) to ask if they would cooperate in writing a formal report of the project. They all agreed and most would not accept any pay for their help. Dr Stickel began to organize and type the report, calling on the experts as needed. ted stood over Stickel telling him to put HIS name in the report. ted offered Stickel more than double the amount I agreed on to pay for the report in turn for adding his name as much as possible. I didn't see this until the report was lost in the memory and I had to take it to a specialist to have the report found. ted and Stickel got into some huge disagreement and Stickel walked off and refused to finish the report. I could not pay more than the amount agreed upon, $3,000.
Two years later I was asked to go on the Maury Povich Show and I insisted that they have Dr Stickel and give him time to talk about the Investigation. Another great story there, we nailed it. Dr Stickel agreed to come back and finish the report for the amount we agreed on in the beginning.
ted says he paid for the Archaeological Investigation-not true. In fact I know that he claimed $17,000 on his taxes in 1991-money he did not spend on us. He only knows it cost $55,000 because a parent who kept the books on all donations had to have that figure for the nonprofit group that sponsored us, MASA.
he is selling his own copy of the report, illegally I bet his name is all over it. He had taken a rough draft copy from Dr Stickel but never had the finished report.
Free wrote:Hi Jackie. Thanks for sharing with us. It's greatly appreciated.
In 1999, Brice Taylor presented at the SMART conference. At that time she was in close contact with Ted Gunderson and she urged all the survivors at the conference to write out everything they had remembered and send what they wrote to tg because "he was going to keep us all safe." She said that she had explained this self-protection system (i.e. depositing information with tg as an "insurance policy") to a high level law enforcement person and he had been impressed and told her "Little lady, I think you have the government by the balls."
In other words she was making a hard sell to everyone in attendance. I also heard that she was sharing an apartment in Las Vegas with tg. Can you tell us anything more about this situation?
JM wrote:Free wrote:Hi Jackie. Thanks for sharing with us. It's greatly appreciated.
In 1999, Brice Taylor presented at the SMART conference. At that time she was in close contact with Ted Gunderson and she urged all the survivors at the conference to write out everything they had remembered and send what they wrote to tg because "he was going to keep us all safe." She said that she had explained this self-protection system (i.e. depositing information with tg as an "insurance policy") to a high level law enforcement person and he had been impressed and told her "Little lady, I think you have the government by the balls."
In other words she was making a hard sell to everyone in attendance. I also heard that she was sharing an apartment in Las Vegas with tg. Can you tell us anything more about this situation?
I would get letters form survivors and ted would write "TV/documentary" on the envelope and file them. I tried to get back to all of the people who wrote but it became impossible. ted is always tryig to make a "movie deal". He is even paying his daughter to write the screen play about him.
I got a letter from Sue Ford in the late 80s. She mailed me a copy of her screen play "Starshine" and asked me to read it. Years later when ted was staying at my house she came over for a visit. She wasn't interested in ted at that point. I really didn't know what I could do to help her with her script. After I got rid of ted he just have called her. I didn't know that Brice Taylor was Sue- I heard she was giving speeches with him.
ted also called my froend Noreen Gosch who was introduced to me by Ken Woden a producer for 20/20. She was very helpful with giving me advice on how to deal with all the people who were contacting me. I considered her a good friend. ted and John Decamp were forming a "production Company" and were bugging Noreen to sign a contract with them that she wanted nothing to do with. Somehow ted schmoozed his way in with her and discredited me to her. Now she "hates" me. I tried to warn her..
The condos in Las Vegas. They belonged to Ken and Mary Scheibe. I was told Ken was a retired judge. They were multimillionaires. ted visited them at least once a month because Ken had hired him for security. ted purchased an airline ticket coupon that would allow him to fly as many times as he wanted to for a specific amount of time. he put that on my credit card. I went with him to visit them several times. After I tossed him in 1993, he ended up in Las Vegas, Ken had cancer and was in bad shape. Mary had Alzheimer's and really enjoyed her cocktails. There was a nurse for Ken but I understand he died from asphyxiation. ted sent Mary to Long Beach and paid Judy Hanson to "take care of her." ted took over their condos and I hear that he had all of his homeless cohorts live there.
Recently Mary Scheibe passed away and they all had to vacate because of probate. ted moved to Clatonia, Nebraska and rented a house from John Decamp in his neighborhood.
ted's last girlfriend, fiancee, contacted me after she had told him to leave her house. She went to Nebraska with him and saw what he really was. She has become a long distance friend. She has told me about recent. developments. She knows DeCamp's neighbors and ted's ex. She has tried to put together all of the people ted has scammed.
Another great story. Maybe we can get her on here to comment?
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