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Postby lightningBugout » Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:05 pm

Jeff wrote:
lightningBugout wrote: I hate to cast any sense of doubt in Bonacci's direction and he did pass multiple lie detector tests, IIRC, but he would seem to be the primary glue that held together the argument for the conspiracy extending quite as far as it did.


Bonacci also provided physical characteristics of Gosch and details of the abduction that had not been released to the press.


Not to mention providing specific architectural and logistical details of the house where King and Spence threw their parties. Later corroborated independently by the Washington Times.
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Postby chiggerbit » Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:21 pm

Buggy said:
hate to cast any sense of doubt in Bonacci's direction and he did pass multiple lie detector tests


Wouldn't it be kind of hard to draw conclusions from any lie dectector tests done on a DID person?
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Postby lightningBugout » Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:28 pm

chiggerbit wrote:Buggy said:
hate to cast any sense of doubt in Bonacci's direction and he did pass multiple lie detector tests


Wouldn't it be kind of hard to draw conclusions from any lie detector tests done on a DID person?


That is one of the stated intentions of the CIA MC experiments, to create subjects who could pass lie detector tests. And success is claimed in even the very early documentation of experimentation on adult subjects.

I assume that depending on the status of Bonacci's personal integration of alter parts, it would no longer be possible to pass a lie detector test while giving false information.

But that said it is very important to point out that Bryant interviewed many people on Caradori's "leads list" and found corroboration for most of Bonacci's claims.
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Postby Jeff » Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:09 pm

Something to add to the mix is deCamp's representation of Militia/Patriot groups (and Colby's encouragement of that, too).

From the C-Span Archives, deCamp's statement to the Sub Committee on Terrorism being added to the record by Arlen Specter, May 25, 1995.

deCamp wrote:To the best of my knowledge, there are no reported incidents of any significance of militias being involved in any of the following:

1. Drive by shootings.

2. The drug trade.

3. Use of children for pornography, pedophilia & drug couriers.

4. Gang wars.

5. Auto theft.

6. Murder, rape, robbery, trafficking in illegal arms.

...

In short, an analysis by you will show that the militias themselves have been the victim of violence rather than the perpetrator or initiator.

...

Question: Are you, John DeCamp, a member of a militia?

Sure, about twenty-five years ago I was a member. We called it the United States Army. We had training sessions and exercises in a place called Vietnam. I was an Infantry Captain there specially assigned to a man named Bill Colby. Bill subsequently became my friend, Godfather, advisor and Legal Associate on a case or two. Bill was the individual who insisted I write the book, the Franklin Coverup--which book resulted in some of the Militias asking me to represent them. You may remember Bill as the former head of a group called the C.I.A., Central Intelligence Agency.

So, since Colby told me to write my book the Franklin Cover-up; and since the book resulted in my representing the Montana militia and being here today, I suppose I'm here because of the C.I.A. just kidding. . . .
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Postby chiggerbit » Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:34 pm

He discovered me by examining files of new, young officers being shipped to Vietnam, who might have 'special talents.'"


This makes me wonder just what characteristics Colby was looking for in those military profiles. Volunteers? IQ? Nativity? Religion? Politcs?
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Postby freemason9 » Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:42 pm

Sorry, I could have been more clear. The photos of JD's child were taken by him. Yes, his wife was of Asian ancestry. No, they weren't prurient in nature at all. If anyone is over 40 years of age, similar pictures were probably taken of you.

I suspect JD was set up on that one, and likely by a "friend" and confidante.

JD himself may not be entirely stable. It's a very confusing matter, but the point to be remembered is that the perpetrators of the whole sordid affair are largely incompetent megalomaniacs with great courage and self confidence. They aren't invincible; they are merely bold.
The real issue is that there is extremely low likelihood that the speculations of the untrained, on a topic almost pathologically riddled by dynamic considerations and feedback effects, will offer anything new.
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from boys town thread...sw

Postby sw » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:44 am

I copy and pasted this from my Boys Town thread and the Alisha Owens info.

I would have thought DeCamp would have talked more about Alisha Owens and the first group of people who really broke the story about Boys Town and the political sex ring with Bush. It wasn't the Franklin saga that broke the story...it was the 1985 story.

Plus, why didn't he do more for Alisha Owens?

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During Owens´ imprisonment, which began in 1991, she was kept in solitary confinement longer that any other woman in the history of the State of Nebraska. Owens was released on parole in 1997, but then the show "Inside Edition" aired an episode discussing the idea that Johnny Gosch may still be alive and she was picked up a week later, she was informed she had to complete her sentence in jail. During pre-trial interviews, Owens stated that she had seen Gosch, as well as several boys from Boys Town, at the exclusive parties where she and others had been abused. Owens was released in 2000 and said she only wants to lead a "normal" life.



People need to remember that the Franklin Cover up story was the second story to link Boys Town and Bush to the child sex rings.

This story covers the earlier attempt at justice.

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Sound crazy? Not to Steve Bowman, an Omaha businessman who is compiling a book about the Franklin money and sex scandal. ``We do have some credible witnesses who say that `Yes, George Bush does have a problem.'... Child abuse has become one of the epidemics of the 1990s,'' Bowman told GQ. Allegedly, one of Bowman's sources is a retired psychiatrist who worked for the CIA. He added that cocaine trafficking and political corruption were the other principal themes of his book.@s6

It didn't sound crazy to Peter Sawyer either. An Australian conservative activist who publishes a controversial newsletter, Inside News, with a circulation of 200,000, dedicated his November 1991 issue entirely to the Nebraska scandal, focusing on President Bush's links to the affair. In a section captioned, ``The Original Allegations: Bush First Named in 1985,'' Sawyer writes,
"Stories about child sex and pornography first became public knowledge in 1989, following the collapse of the Franklin Credit Union. That is not when the allegations started, however. Indeed, given the political flavor of the subsequent investigations, it would be easy to dismiss claims that George Bush had been involved. He was by then a very public figure...."

If the first allegations about a massive child exploitation ring, centered around Larry King and leading all the way to the White House, had been made in 1989, and had all come from the same source, some shenanigans and mischievous collusion could be suspected. However, the allegations arising out of the Franklin Credit Union collapse were not the first.

Way back in 1985, a young girl, Eulice (Lisa) Washington, was the center of an investigation by Andrea L. Carener, of the Nebraska Department of Social Services. The investigation was instigated because Lisa and her sister Tracey continually ran away from their foster parents, Jarrett and Barbara Webb. Initially reluctant to disclose information for fear of being further punished, the two girls eventually recounted a remarkable story, later backed up by other children who had been fostered out to the Webb's [sic].

These debriefings were conducted by Mrs. Julie Walters, another welfare officer, who worked for Boys Town at the time, and who had been called in because of the constant reference by the Webb children and others, to that institution.

Lisa, supported by her sister, detailed a massive child sex, homosexual, and pornography industry, run in Nebraska by Larry King. She described how she was regularly taken to Washington by plane, with other youths, to attend parties hosted by King and involving many prominent people, including businessmen and politicians. Lisa specifically named George Bush as being in attendance on at least two separate occasions. ``Remember, this was in 1985,'' emphasized the Australian newsletter.

The newsletter reproduces several documents on Lisa's case, including a Nebraska State Police report, a State of Nebraska Foster Care Review Board letter to the Attorney General, an investigative report prepared for the Franklin Committee of the Nebraska Senate, and a portion of the handwritten debriefing by Mrs. Julie Walters. Peter Sawyer says that he obtained the documents from sympathetic Australian law enforcement officers who had helped Australian Channel Ten produce an exposeé of a national child prostitution ring Down Under. The Australian cops seem to have been in communication with American law enforcement officers who apparently agreed that there had been a coverup on the Nebraska scandal. Subsequent investigations by the authors established that all four documents were authentic.

Mrs. Julie Walters, now a housewife in the Midwest, confirmed that in 1986 she had interviewed the alleged child prostitute, Lisa, who told her about Mr. Bush. Lisa and her sister Tracey were temporarily living at the time in the home of Kathleen Sorenson, another foster parent. Mrs. Walters explained that at first she was very surprised. But Lisa, who came from a very underprivileged background with no knowledge of political affairs, gave minute details of her attendance at political meetings around the country.

From Julie Walters' 50-page handwritten report:

3/25/86. Met with Kathleen [Sorenson] and Lisa for about 2 hours in Blair [Neb.] questioning Lisa for more details about sexual abuse.... Lisa admitted to being used as a prostitute by Larry King when she was on trips with his family. She started going on trips when she was in 10th grade. Besides herself and Larry there was also Mrs. King, their son, Prince, and 2-3 other couples. They traveled in Larry's private plane, Lisa said that at these trip parties, which Larry hosted, she sat naked ``looking pretty and innocent'' and guests could engage in any sexual activity they wanted (but penetration was not allowed) with her.... Lisa said she first met V.P. George Bush at the Republican Convention (that Larry King sang the national anthem at) and saw him again at a Washington, D.C. party that Larry hosted. At that party, Lisa saw no women (``make-up was perfect--you had to check their legs to make sure they weren't a woman'').
The polygraph test which Lisa took only centered around sexual abuse committed by Jarrett Webb. At that time, she had said only general things about Larry's trips (i.e. where they went, etc.). She only began talking about her involvement in prostitution during those trips on 3/25/86....

Lisa also accompanied Mr. and Mrs. King and Prince on trips to Chicago, N.Y. and Washington, D.C. beginning when she was 15 years old. She missed twenty-two days of school almost totally due to these trips. Lisa was taken along on the pretense of being Prince's babysitter. Last year she met V.P. George Bush and saw him again at one of the parties Larry gave while on a Washington, D.C. trip. At some of the parties there are just men (as was the case at the party George Bush attended)--older men and younger men in their early twenties. Lisa said she has seen sodomy committed at those parties....

At these parties, Lisa said every guest had a bodyguard and she saw some of the men wearing guns. All guests had to produce a card which was run through a machine to verify who the guest was, in fact, who they said they were. And then each guest was frisked down before entering the party.@s7

The details of the accusations against Mr. Bush are known to be in the hands of the FBI. A Franklin Committee report stated:

Apparently she [Lisa] was contacted on December 19 [1988] and voluntarily came to the FBI offices on December 30, 1988. She was interviewed by Brady, Tucker and Phillips.

She indicates that in September or October 1984, when [Lisa] Washington was fourteen or fifteen years of age, she went on a trip to Chicago with Larry King and fifteen to twenty boys from Omaha. She flew to Chicago on a private plane.

The plane was large and had rows of two seats apiece on either side of the interior middle aisle.
She indicates that King got the boys from Boys Town and the boys worked for him. She stated that Rod Evans and two other boys with the last name of Evans were on the plane. Could not recall the names of the other boys.

The boys who flew to Chicago with Washington and King were between the ages of fifteen and eighteen. Most of the boys were black but some were white. She was shown a color photograph of a boy and identified that boy as being one of the boys on the plane. She could not recall his name.

She indicates that she was coerced to going on the trip by Barbara Webb.

She indicates that she attended a party in Chicago with King and the male youths. She indicated George Bush was present.

She indicates that she set [sic] at a table at the party while wearing nothing but a negligee. She stated that George Bush saw her on the table. She stated she saw George Bush pay King money, and that Bush left the party with a nineteen year old black boy named Brent. Lisa said the party George Bush attended was in Chicago in September or October 1984. According to the Chicago Tribune of October 31, 1984, Bush was in Illinois campaigning for congressional candidates at the end of October.

Lisa added more details on the Chicago trip, and told why she was sure it was George Bush she had seen. According to a May 8, 1989 report by investigator Jerry Lowe, ``Eulice [Lisa] indicated that she recognized George Bush as coming to the party and that Bush had two large white males with him. Eulice indicated Bush came to the party approximately 45 minutes after it started and that he was greeted by Larry King. Eulice indicated that she knew George Bush due to the fact that he had been in political campaigns and also she had observed a picture of Bush with Larry King at Larry King's house in Omaha.''

There is no question that Lisa and Tracey Webb were abused in the way they claimed. But, in keeping with the alleged pattern of coverup, a Washington County, Nebraska judge in December 1990 dismissed all charges against their abusers, Jarrett and Barbara Webb. The judge ignored presented testimony of the 1986 report by Boys Town official Julie Walters. The report stated: ``Lisa was given four polygraph tests administered by a state trooper at the State Patrol office on Center Street in Omaha. The state trooper, after Lisa's testing was completed, told [another foster parent] he tried to `break Lisa down,' but he was convinced she was telling the mailto:truth.

Furthermore, numbers of foster care officials and youth workers debriefed the sisters. All of them fully believed not only their general story of abuse, but specifically their account of Bush's involvement. The March 1986 report on Bush was incorporated into the Foster Care Review Board's official report presented to the Senate Franklin Committee and to law enforcement. As Kathleen Sorenson wrote in a report dated May 1, 1989, ``This was long before he [Bush] was president. It seems like there were more exciting people to `lie' about if that's what they were mailto:doing.

The rumors about Mr. Bush were given new life when Dr. Ronald Roskens, the head of the Agency for International Development (AID), found himself the object of controversy. Executive Intelligence Review reported in the fall of 1991 that Dr. Roskens is the subject of a scandal in which he is being charged with violating federal laws and ethics codes, according to the Oct. 6 Washington Post. A report prepared by AID Inspector General Herbert Beckington, dated April 5 and leaked to the Post, charges Roskens with accepting thousands of dollars in payments from ``different organizations in compensation of his and his wife's travel expenses'' while Roskens was on official government travel. He also took money for a private trip from a company ``from which Roskens had agreed to divest himself as a condition of his presidential appointment.''
The inspector general concluded that the money accepted by Roskens was a clear conflict of interest and violated federal law against earning non-government income. But on Sept. 4, after reviewing the charges, the Department of Justice ... informed Beckington that it had decided not to prosecute--giving no explanation for its decision. The White House is reviewing the case.
Congressional investigators are already looking into the allegations. Should they scratch below the surface, they will find that this is not the first time Roskens has been touched by scandal. Although President Bush promised that he would not tolerate even the appearance of impropriety in his administration, Congress should not be surprised if the White House threatens to start ``breaking legs'' in Roskens's defense.

It is not just that Roskens is a personal friend of the President--although he is.... [A]n unimpeded investigation into Roskens could expose the link between Bush's little publicized birth control mania--much of which is carried out through the State Department's AID in the Third World--and the sexual depravity rampant in U.S. political and intelligence elites. Any such scandal could shatter the illusions of Bush's conservative base, many of whom still accept the President's claims to being ``pro-life,'' ``anti-drug,'' and an American patriot. It should also make anyone who thinks of the propaganda about Bush being the ``education President,'' deeply queasy.

Roskens left his home state of Nebraska for the nation's capital in early 1990 enmired in controversy. He had been fired suddenly as president of the University of Nebraska, in a secret meeting of the state Board of Regents in July 1989. No public explanation was given for his removal. Yet, within weeks, the White House offered Roskens the high-profile job in Washington. The administration knew about the controversy in Nebraska, but Roskens passed an FBI background check, and was confirmed to head AID.

The FBI appears to have overlooked a Feb. 19, 1990 investigative report by the late Gary Caradori [see footnote 5 below], an investigator for the ``Franklin Committee'' of the Nebraska Senate. He wrote, ``I was informed that Roskins [sic] was terminated by the state because of sexual activities reported to the Regents and verified by them. Mr. Roskins [sic] was reported to have had young men at his residence for sexual encounters. As part of the separation from the state, he had to move out of the state-owned house because of the liability to the state if some of his sexual behavior was mailto:`illegal.

There has been no independent confirmation of the accusation. As of late December 1991, a congressional committee was looking into the charges.
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Columbine student withdraws drug suit

Karen Abbott, Rocky Mountain News

Published February 7, 2003 at midnight

Injured Columbine student Mark Taylor has dropped his claims against the maker of a prescription drug taken by gunman Eric Harris.

"No money has been or will be paid to Mr. Taylor or his lawyers in exchange for this dismissal," Taylor and Solvay Pharmaceuticals Inc. said in a joint statement issued Thursday.

"Solvay will make a charitable donation in the amount of $10,000 to the American Cancer Society," the statement said.

The two sides agreed to say nothing else about the end of the federal lawsuit Taylor filed after he was injured in the April 20, 1999, shootings at Columbine High School.

Harris and Dylan Klebold, both Columbine seniors, attacked the school with guns and homemade bombs, killing 12 students and a teacher and wounding more than 20 other people before taking their own lives.

Federal Judge Clarence Brimmer dismissed the lawsuit Thursday at the request of both sides.

Taylor claimed the drug Harris took, Luvox, was a cause of the Columbine attack. Solvay contended that Harris exhibited dangerous behavior before taking the drug and stopped taking it before the attack.

Taylor now wants his money back from John W. DeCamp of Lincoln, Neb., the lawyer he and supporters paid to handle the case.

DeCamp, testifying angrily by telephone Thursday in a hearing on the disputed $116,000, told Brimmer he had spent many hours on the case and some of his own money.

For instance, DeCamp insisted, he had spent 45 hours in the sealed room in the Denver federal courthouse where evidence in the case is kept.But the lawyer appointed as a special master to keep track of the evidence and the visits by either side to review it already had told Brimmer that DeCamp had studied none of it.

"Look, Mr. DeCamp," Brimmer said. "I didn't just fall off the Christmas tree."

The judge said he knows the special master to be reliable "and I'm not sure if that can be said about you."

Brimmer gave DeCamp 10 days to submit his billing records in the case.

"You have not yet substantiated your bill as I think a real professional lawyer would do, and you've got to do that. And if you don't do it, I'm going to cite you to the Colorado Bar Association as well as the Nebraska Bar Association," Brimmer said.

DeCamp, 61, is a former Nebraska state legislator. He previously filed a Columbine-related lawsuit, which has since been dismissed, against a long list of entertainment companies, contending that violence in video games, movies and television programs brought about the Columbine attack.
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Paradise Lost: Successful entrepreneur now in bankruptcy
BY JAKE THOMPSON
WORLD-HERALD BUREAU
Nebraska native Jeffrey Prosser built one of the largest telecommunications companies in the United States. A telephone company. A cell phone operation. High-speed Internet service. Two cable TV businesses. A newspaper. He had a mansion in Palm Beach, Fla., a condo on St. Croix and a home on New York's Lake Placid. Paintings, jewels and furnishings worth millions.

Jeffrey ProsserLegal battles with investors and lenders in Delaware, Virginia, Florida and the Virgin Islands culminated last fall. He and his company are in bankruptcy. Now with his company and soon his homes gone, it's paradise lost.
* * *
WASHINGTON — When Falls City, Neb., native Jeffrey Prosser threw a 50th wedding anniversary bash for his parents, he spared no expense.
In typical style, Prosser hired Kansas City-based decorating and catering crews to transform the plain Camp Rulo River Club in nearby Rulo, Neb.
They draped the walls with peach- and coral-colored fabric, placed bouquets of flowers all around and set elaborate tables. On that June 2003 night, about 180 guests dined on filet mignon and lobster tails and danced to the Duke Ellington Orchestra.
"It was an elegant, spectacular evening," said Rodney Vandeberg, Falls City's mayor. "It was like we've never seen before and never will again see."
Jeffrey Prosser may not, either.
The former Nebraska accountant who became a Caribbean entrepreneur found as much turmoil as he did success. Prosser's tale is that of the rise and fall of a high-flying businessman — a financial thriller set in an island paradise.
His story includes street protests in the nation of Belize, making money from phone sex telephone traffic, soured business partnerships and acrimonious civil lawsuits.
In the eye of this tropical financial storm stands a driven, 51-year-old executive with a knack for highly leveraged corporate acquisitions and a taste for the finer things in life.
"Yes, we entertained well. I did live well," Prosser said in an interview. But he said his lifestyle wasn't illegal and he has never been charged with illegal acts.
"There isn't one lawsuit out there alleging accounting fraud or that the audits were wrong — or anything else — which you would normally see," he said.
Until recently, virtually no one in the Virgin Islands could communicate without help from Prosser. He owned the telephone company, a cell phone operation, high-speed Internet service, two cable television businesses and the main newspaper.
He also had a bank in the islands as well as cable operations on neighboring Caribbean islands and in France.
He counted 75,000 telephone customers and 150,000 cable subscribers. With 800 workers, he was the islands' second-largest employer.
Over two decades, he set up companies to buy companies, ultimately building one of the largest privately owned telecommunications businesses in the United States.
But a hurricane of legal rulings — growing out of accusations that he shortchanged investors, and countercharges that his company was targeted by a greedy investor and a disgruntled lender — battered the CEO. His troubles culminated last fall, when Prosser was ordered into involuntary bankruptcy. His company is in Chapter 11 voluntary bankruptcy.
U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Judith Fitzgerald wrote in October 2007 that she had previously extended deadlines to allow him to pay a settlement to creditors, but he failed to do so.
"This bankruptcy case is now over 14 months old," Fitzgerald wrote, "and there is no likelihood of a reasonable prospect of rehabilitation of debtor's financial affairs."
His company, Innovative Communications Corp., owes more than $500 million. Court proceedings also revealed an additional $10 million to $15 million in unpaid pension liabilities.
The judge appointed trustees who are working to liquidate his personal assets and parts of his empire to pay off the debts.
Until last fall, Prosser earned an annual salary of $1.5 million. But bankruptcy court-appointed trustee Stan Springel, who removed him as CEO, said Prosser also treated his company as "his personal 'piggy bank' to fund a lavish lifestyle," according to a court filing.
Bankruptcy court records show that Prosser traveled in a company-owned Boeing 727. He split time between a condo on St. Croix, an $8.7 million mansion in Palm Beach, Fla., and a $1.4 million home on New York's Lake Placid — all at least partly financed by company funds, according to court filings.
He used company money to buy $9.1 million in luxury items, for himself and family members, that included "jewelry, art, automobiles, personal watercraft, fine wine, silverware, negotiable and non-negotiable securities, season tickets to sporting events, country club membership, clothing, rugs, antiques and other home furnishings," Springel said in a court filing.
The items included four paintings by French Impressionist Camille Pissarro valued at about $5 million; a $400,000 platinum necklace studded with 736 diamonds; $197,000 ruby-and-diamond earrings; a $265,000 diamond ring with an oval ruby; and a $596,850 diamond-encrusted bracelet studded with 37 rubies.
"He left his companies in terrible, terrible shape," Toby Gerber, a lawyer for the private, nonprofit Rural Telephone Finance Cooperative, said in an interview. The cooperative has loaned Prosser more than $500 million since the 1980s and helped force him into bankruptcy.
During a phone interview, Prosser was sometimes indignant, yet willing to tell his side of the story.
"Everybody, in my view, missed the point: I owned 100 percent of this company," he said. "We weren't public."
Because the Rural Telephone Finance Cooperative, based in the Washington area, had two officials serving on his company's boards until 2001 — and continued lending him money until 2003 — it should have known how he was operating, Prosser said. His company was sound, he said, and it had upgraded telephone and cable equipment after two damaging hurricanes.
"We made a lot of money, we had a lot of cash flow and our only lender financed most of our assets," he said. "But now you'd swear to God they never knew what they lent $500 million on."
He said his fight with the cooperative started in 2003, after he accused it of falsifying documents related to its own financial picture. Then, he said, the lender teamed up with Wall Street hedge fund Greenlight Capital LLC — which had won a judgment against Prosser in a dispute over a stock buyout — to take away his company.
"This all comes down to (Rural Telephone Finance Cooperative) and their desire to destroy me," Prosser said.
Officials at Greenlight and the telephone cooperative declined to discuss the case.
But Gerber showed his client's frustration about its lengthy court battle during a hearing last September before Fitzgerald, the bankruptcy judge: "We've been patient long enough with Mr. Prosser's frolics and detours . . . with his appearing that he doesn't owe the creditors anything."
In the Virgin Islands, the executive director of the Public Service Commission that regulated Prosser's companies, Keithley R. Joseph, also declined to discuss Prosser or his business.
On St. Croix, an island with a population of 53,000, Prosser is perhaps best known through the Prosser ICC Foundation, which has given more than $5 million to promote education, athletic and arts events and provided scholarships for college-bound Virgin Islands students, said Michael Dembeck, executive director of the St. Croix Chamber of Commerce.
Roger Dewey, executive director of another local philanthropic group, the St. Croix Foundation, got to know Jeffrey Prosser during a decade of pickup basketball games.
"He played basketball like a Nebraska lineman," Dewey said with a laugh. "He was physically aggressive, but always played clean."
Nebraska was where Prosser first learned about the telephone industry. For years, his father managed the Southeast Nebraska Telephone Co. in Falls City. Prosser's parents didn't flaunt their prosperity, and they were heavily involved in community activities.
At Falls City High School, Jeffrey Prosser participated in Spanish Club and on football, basketball and golf teams.
He was well-liked and popular, but not a terribly good public speaker or dynamic personality, classmate Lonnie Goff recalled.
"He didn't cause problems or raise hell. He was just a nice guy," Goff said.
He did show a streak of determination later seen in business. When Goff and Prosser were seniors on the school basketball team, a new coach said he'd start only sophomores in hopes of improving the team's dismal record.
"I think he's the only senior who didn't quit," Goff said.
Prosser drove a backhoe, spliced and buried cable and learned to run a telephone switchboard at his father's business. He studied the industry's financing and regulatory oversight at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln. He still keeps close tabs on the Cornhuskers.
He received a bachelor's degree in business administration in 1978 and became a certified public accountant.
In the early 1980s, he started an accounting firm in Omaha, then established an office on St. Croix in the U.S. Virgin Islands in 1984 and prospected for other business.
Prosser allied with former Nebraska State Sen. John DeCamp to try to bring video gambling machines to the Virgin Islands.
That first deal fell through, but Prosser scored in 1986, buying the Virgin Islands Telephone Company from the international conglomerate ITT Corp. He financed the purchase with Cornelius Prior, who left his position overseeing telecommunications financing at the now-defunct brokerage and investment banking firm Kidder, Peabody & Co.
"He came in completely unknown to me and me to him," Prior said. "He got ITT to sign; I got the money to pay them."
With additional financing from the rural telephone cooperative, their operations thrived and made both men wealthy.
But Prosser's personal life suffered. He divorced his wife in 1990 and remarried in 1998. His first wife sued him for failing to pay an agreed-upon $2.5 million settlement.
"It got paid," he said in the interview. Court records back him up.
Then, his business relationship with Prior broke apart.
"It's a question of daily aggravations; eventually it takes a toll," Prior said. One "aggravation," Prior said, was Prosser's use of a company jet for personal trips.
Prosser attributes the tension between the two to their diverging financial goals. "We had different directions we wanted to go in, I with acquisitions and he with starting up companies."
In 1997, they split. Prosser's enterprises grew — and so did his notoriety.
He commuted to work on the island of St. Croix in a Rolls-Royce sandwiched by black Chevy Suburbans driven by bodyguards, according to two business officials there.
Prosser acknowledged he has adversaries in the islands, which he says are rife with "small town politics."
Since 2003, he's waged legal battles in Delaware, Virginia, Florida and the Virgin Islands to hold onto his businesses. All the while, his creditors closed in.
For now, he has lost his job and his company. Trustees also are seeking to sell Prosser's homes and have a potential buyer for his bank.
But through his continuing legal appeals, Prosser sees a chance to win it all back.
"I think what's been done has been a tremendous injustice to this company and to me," he said. "Hopefully, the next chapter will be different."
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Postby Free » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:03 pm


Jeff wrote:


Like, Colby's encouragement that deCamp continue his investigations.

deCamp wrote:


To quote his exact words, "This case is so much bigger than you think. It goes to the very highest levels;we have to keep pulling the strings."


We have to keep pulling the strings? Isn't that an unusual construction? DeCamp has implicit faith in Colby's good will. Very useful for Colby. DeCamp writes that "He discovered me by examining files of new, young officers being shipped to Vietnam, who might have 'special talents.'"

Does this picture make sense: that Colby "reactivated" deCamp, even unawares, to keep the highest levels apprised of what was being uncovered and to ensure that deCamp was the source of the most sensational disclosures? DeCamp needn't have been aware of his deeper role, particularly since his trust for Colby was unassailable.



Wow. DeCamp's quote is mind boggling.

I remember, around ten years ago, I was listening to Pacifica Radio- Michael Levine's Expert Witness Show. Levine is a former DEA agent whose claim to fame is blowing the whistle about corruption in the DEA.

I'll mention that I don't like Levine or agree with his positions. He promotes the line that most of the problems in law enforcement are due to incompetence, the "Keystone Cop" syndrome... He's always poo pooing those who question the official story of 911 and he trashes or ignores any MK type info, but when it's time to raise funds he wheels out a premium about "The Control of Candy Jones" or some such old news and feigns sympathy and concern because he knows that listeners will be riveted by the topic and open their wallets...

Anyway, I had the radio on that night when he had on the quartet of Ted G.,John DeCamp, Brice Taylor and another female MK survivor that I didn't recognize. Levine spent a lot of time at the outset sucking up and bowing down to TG, oh the big important ex- FBI chief, what an honor it was to have him, etc.

When they finally got around to talking about Brice's book, Levine described the cover- the photo of Brice in between Bob Hope and Henry Kiss***ger, made a quick summary of the premise, then immediately began a direct attack- "How could this be?" "My vast experience with DEA and CIA tells me that there could be no reason to use mind controlled assets or operatives."Let's take assassinations, there are agents galore who want to do them, why would they need to use a mind-controlled person..." etc, etc.

Brice seemed flustered by the attack but the other survivor was pretty sharp and did her best to refute him "Sure, anyone can do the assassination but the problems arise afterwords...etc"

What amazed and infuriated me was that TG and John D. barely came to their defense and when they did, their response was weak, lame and not the least bit incisive. I mean, surely they could do better...Why did they even bother to come? I kept thinking.

Levine was saying that he didn't buy it, didn't believe the women's stories, there must be another explanation... delusional thinking for example. I remember the only defense that DeCamp could muster up (for the other survivor) was "She comes from an intelligence family. All her relatives are CIA."

Midway, Levine asked Brice point blank "Do you have any proof of your connection with H. Kiss***ger, I mean, there must be a photo, a document, something". Brice was quiet then said "No, I have no proof." Silence. She didn't elaborate and neither TG or JD piped up to explain further or defend her in any way.

Needless to say, the show was a disaster for survivor credibility.

At that point in time I already had heard a rumor about TG being no good, but I still really believed in J.DeCamp, so his lame performance baffled and disappointed me terribly.

Fast forward to this thread...hmmm... DeCamp's real agenda may finally be coming clear.
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Postby freemason9 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:19 pm

Personally speaking, I have come to believe that DeCamp is a bit unhinged, and that he has affiliated with other unhinged types.

That explains much of it, but not all of it--and certainly doesn't address the sad, sad case of Alisha.
The real issue is that there is extremely low likelihood that the speculations of the untrained, on a topic almost pathologically riddled by dynamic considerations and feedback effects, will offer anything new.
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Postby Jeff » Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:14 am

Free wrote:
Jeff wrote:


Like, Colby's encouragement that deCamp continue his investigations.

deCamp wrote:


To quote his exact words, "This case is so much bigger than you think. It goes to the very highest levels; we have to keep pulling the strings."



Wow. DeCamp's quote is mind boggling.


Just to be clear, that DeCamp quote is DeCamp quoting William Colby.
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Postby Searcher08 » Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:16 am

Free wrote:[b]

Fast forward to this thread...hmmm... DeCamp's real agenda may finally be coming clear.


Really? What agenda is that?

I think he was a right wing 'Patriot' type with 'old fashioned' spooky connections, very ambitious, big ego, who unexpectedly came across something that caused him to choose between 'justice' and 'career'.

IMHO he choose 'justice'.
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Postby sw » Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:54 am

Weak justice. He did enough to look like the saving grace for survivors but he does not possess the drive or persistence of someone who was out to bring true justice.

When I spoke to him, it was like talking to a person who had done their part and had taken the whole thing as far as he was going to. Like a deflated balloon. His words were empty and lacked interest. It's the kind of conversation that delivered a clear message to me that he was not the person to align with at all. Plus, he was really talking up Mark, Cathy O'Brien's handler telling me how great this man was. Hang up and run from that call.
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