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lead list

Postby sw » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:18 pm

Just looking at the Lead List posted on Nick Bryant's web site of those involved in the sex ring.

One of the names is Willie Thiessen who founded Godfather's pizza selling it later for millions. Steve Turner's name was also on the list as part of the group. Steve used to work at Franklin Credit Union but worked at Godfather's pizza at the time the list was put together.
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Postby chiggerbit » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:21 pm

Now, however, Mrs. Jetter has set up her own bank account to handle restaurant finances.

Her attorney, who spoke on condition he not be identified, said...


Huh? That has to be a first, an attorney asking not to have his name out front.
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Operation BabyLift, according to John DeCamp

Postby Paloma » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:30 pm

When John DeCamp showed me the photos of his family on the sill in his office, I asked him where he met Nga, his wife. DeCamp said that when he became a "powerful Nebraska Senator" he traveled back to Vietnam to retrieve her so he could marry her. US/Vietnam relations were extremely tense at the time and most parts of Vietnam were off limits for travel, including the village where Nga lived. DeCamp struck a deal. The Vietnamese government resented having to care for all of the Amerasian bastard children and they were catching a lot of international flack because the children were being brutally murdered by full-blood Vietnamese. If DeCamp would remove the bastard children from the country and make it appear to be a humanitarian effort on the part of the Vietnamese government, thegovernment would send a reconnaisance team in to the mountains and retrieve Nga for DeCamp. DeCamp waved his hand about his head, rolled his eyes and said, "I was a powerful Senator and I got what I wanted."
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what's this guy's story

Postby sw » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:36 pm

Found this in Omaha paper....I wonder what this guy's story is?

April 22, 1990: Michael Casey, a former Omahan who led two Los Angeles Times reporters on a fruitless search through the Far East for kidnapped newspaper heiress Patty Hearst in the 1970s, resurfaced and became involved in the Franklin case. His main activity apparently was to pass information from one source to another.
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Franklin files site

Postby Paloma » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:21 pm

Was just informed that Iowa Gurl is going to re-start the Franklin Files site with Nick Bryant.
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Postby Jeff » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:42 pm

sw wrote:How's this for a guy who came forward to find justice for the victims of Franklin:

Here we go: James Bevel (rev.)

One of the campaigns on which Bevel collaborated with the LaRouche organization was a campaign claiming a huge Republican child molestation ring based in Nebraska — the subject of the book The Franklin Cover-up: Child Abuse, Satanism, and Murder in Nebraska, written by former Nebraska State Senator John DeCamp and published in its first edition by the LaRouche organization.
[edit] Criminal charges

In late May 2007, James Bevel was arrested in Alabama on charges of incest committed sometime between October 1992 and October 1994 in Loudoun County, Virginia; Bevel was living in Leesburg, Virginia at the time and working with LaRouche's group, whose international headquarters was a few blocks from Bevel's apartment.

The accuser, one of his daughters, was 13–15 years old at the time, and lived with him in the Leesburg apartment. Three of his other daughters have also alleged that Bevel sexually abused them, although not with intercourse. Charged with one-count of unlawful fornication in Virginia, which has no statute of limitations for incest, Bevel pleaded innocent and continued to deny the main accusation. His four-day trial in April 2008 included "testimony about Bevel's philosophies for eradicating lust, and parents' duties to sexually orient their children". During the trial, the accusing daughter testified that she was repeatedly molested beginning when she was six years old.



Bevel was LaRouche's running mate in 1992.

Here's what DeCamp had to say about him:

DeCamp wrote:
Rev. Bevel was so horrified by what he witnessed during the short mission of the [Larouche] Fact-Finding Commission, that he moved to Nebraska for a period of months, to work with citizens resisting pedophilia and the cover-up of it. He was the target of death threats and physical attack in Omaha.

At first I thought that Rev. Bevel must be crazy, or a radical trouble-maker. Why would a middle-aged man with a family to support take off and move to Nebraska in the middle of winter, to take up a cause that could guarantee him nothing but grief, and might get him killed?

But as I watched him work and saw his dedication, I learned more about faith, hope, charity and truth from this one individual, than from all the priests, pastors and rabbis I have known. Rev. Bevel cared about one thing - children. Children were being abused and were going to be abused, unless something was done.
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DeCamp/LaRouche

Postby Paloma » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:12 pm

According to Jon Asher, Assistant to Jeffrey Steinberg of EIR, the LaRouche Organization worked with DeCamp on his book. Asher said, "We published the book for him." According to Anton Chaitkin, he (Chaitkin) helped DeCamp write the book. This might explain the weird, "I John DeCamp ... format." Somewhere in DeCamp's latest edition I heard there is a reference and nod to Mr. Chaitkin that acknowledges his assistance. Did DeCamp actually write that about Bevel, or is DeCamp the guy whose name is on the book with words and emotions put into print that may or may not be his?
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more

Postby sw » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:27 pm

More on Michael Casey...his role unfolds...


The grand jury exonerated the five, saying, ''We found no credible evidence of child sexual abuse, interstate transportaion of minors, drug trafficking or participation in a pornography ring.''

The grand jury quoted Shakespeare's King Henry IV: ''Rumor is a pipe, blown by surmises, jealousies, conjectures and of so easy and so plain a stop that the blunt monster with uncounted heads, the still discordant wavering multitudes, can play upon it.''

'Rumor and Innuendo'

Though it made no formal accusation, the grand jury said it suspected that a state investigator looking into the sexual allegations had been duped by a executive who had been dismissed by Boys Town, the home for troubled young people in Omaha. It said the unemployed executive, identified as Michael Casey, might have ''fueled the fire of rumor and innuendo'' because of personal grudges.
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Re: DeCamp/LaRouche

Postby Jeff » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:32 pm

Paloma wrote:Did DeCamp actually write that about Bevel, or is DeCamp the guy whose name is on the book with words and emotions put into print that may or may not be his?


Good point. DeCamp's words do have a Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life ring about them.
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Postby Percival » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:35 pm

Jeff wrote:
Searcher08 wrote:Jeff, what in particular is it about 'reclaiming Franklin' - that you see as being so very important? What difference will it make? (I'm assuming it isnt about traditional left v right?? )


I don't know Bryant's politics, but it's a fair bet he's not, let's see now,

* best buds with a DCIA who handpicked him for the Phoenix Program
* a militia/Patroit/LaRouche advocate
* a Gunderson confidant
* someone whose preemptive leak to the press undercut Caradori's investigation

It's not politics, it's the difference between journalism and God knows what mindfuckery.


:clapping: :clapping: :clapping:


Fuck it is good to see somebody gets it.
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Grand Jury

Postby sw » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:02 pm

I've been searching for awhile trying to find any leads to the members of the Grand Jury that ruled all of it a hoax. If this link is accurate, the Union Pacific person was the Grand Jury Panel Lead: Michael Flanagan. If I later find this site is in error....I'll come back and delete.

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THE NEBRASKA CONNECTION--AN EXPLOSIVE IMBROGLIO SHARED BY DICK CHENEY AND THE BUSH FAMILY. by Linda Minor © 2000

What is the Nebraska connection to George W. Bush's selection of Dick Cheney as his running mate? It's intriguing that Cheney was born in Lincoln, Nebraska in 1941, then went to Yale for a time, and now he sits on the board of directors of Union Pacific (UP) Railroad, which is based in Omaha. Keep in mind that since the turn of the last century the UP Railroad was controlled by the Harriman family, the employers of George Bush's maternal grandfather and his father.

It was George Herbert Walker who left St. Louis, where he had his own investment bank--G.H. Walker & Co., involved in the financing of railroads and the companies owned by those railroads--to relocate to set up Averell and Bunny Harriman's investment bank. The two Yalie friends of Walker's (actually Skull and Bones friends) were the sons of E.H. Harriman, the old railroad tycoon. To assist the Harriman family in running the Union Pacific, they had a lawyer from Texas name Robert Scott Lovett, who for years ran the railroad. Robert S. Lovett's son was Robert A. Lovett, a partner at Brown Brothers Harriman, who was actually married to the daughter of one of one of the "Brown Brothers.

Who, really, operates "Brown Brothers"? Although it has not yet been proven that Brown & Root was connected to the Brown Brothers firm, it is known that the founders of that industrial construction company, George and Herman Brown, who were born in Belton, Texas, were sons of a traveling banker in central Texas, who with his brother in Austin were engaged in making loans under the name of

Brown Brothers bank in Austin prior to 1900. According to birth records, George and Herman's father came to Texas from Baltimore, Md. which was also the location of the original bank called Brown Brothers. If the connection exists, then it may be no accident Cheney was selected for the boards he sits on, as Union Pacific and Halliburton each have a block of shareholders connected to the Bush family.

The following are relevant excerpts from John DeCamp's book, The Franklin Cover-up," p. 146:

"Donations to Franklin through the Union Pacific Foundation made the Union Pacific Railroad one of Larry King's biggest corporate backers. Union Pacific Chairman John Kenefick, deposited funds at Franklin."

According to reports out of Omaha's homosexual community, the old Harriman family railroad overlaps other areas with King. 'The company is well-known for two things at the top: homosexuality and freemasonry,' said one knowledgeable person.

"Is there a tradition or obligation of homosexuality among top Union Pacific executives?

"The Legislature's Franklin committee heard testimony from a former Franklin employee, implicating two Union Pacific executives in the recruitment of 'young kids for Larry King's friends.' Robert Andresen, the pedophile whose brutality was so heavy-handed that even the Douglas County jury mentioned (but did not indict) him, worked for Union Pacific.

"So did the foreman of the grand jury! The Douglas County panel was headed by citizen Michael Flanagan, an employee of Union Pacific Railroad for 27 years. Given that Union Pacific personnel were implicated in the matters under consideration, there would have been a conflict of interest for any UP employee sitting on the grand jury. In the case of Flanagan, there was more to it than that.

"In the summer of 1990, while the Douglas County grand jury was sitting, I received a call from a person who identified himself as an executive at Union Pacific headquarters in Omaha. He declined to give his name, saying, 'I am too old to start over. I have too much vested in a good salary, position and pension. But I do not feel I can sit idly by.' ...

My caller's carefully chosen words quickly dispelled the notion that he meant insignificant incidents, and led me to ask, 'Are you talking about the head of Union Pacific, Mr. Walsh?" While the information he provided satisfied me that my concern about Walsh might well be valid, the caller made it clear that this was not the immediate point of his contacting me.

"What he had to say, was that the foreman of the grand jury had committed impropriety of such a nature and degree, that Union Pacific had to reach a private financial settlement to protect him.

"'I believe if you will check out a former very young male Union Pacific employee named Pike,' said my caller, "you will discover that Mr. Flanagan made improper sexual advances upon him, and he complained to Union Pacific officials. A financial settlement was reached by Union Pacific and the young male individual was paid a substantial sum of money by Union Pacific to keep quiet, go about his business, and find other employment."

DeCamp's investigation proved the information to be accurate, and he used it in his court pleadings, stating that Union Pacific was directing the grand jury in the Larry King case.
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A few random DeCamp thoughts

Postby Paloma » Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:30 pm

DeCamp owns a bunch of bars around Clatonia. When JM and another friend were researching anything and everything that could be found re:Gunderson and DeCamp and their relationship, DeCamp's property records were looked at. When they were overlayed onto a map they all followed the rail lines. Might be coincidence, but there may be more to it.

? Does anyone have anything from any other source that puts DeCamp with Colby in the Phoenix Project? I haven't spent a lot of time looking, but spent some time and only found DeCamp's claims.

Re:DeCamp being hand picked by Colby. When I met John DeCamp and he was talking about his work with Colby he associated Colby choosing him with his ability to speak Farsi, which he learned from time he spent in Iran. According to DeCamp he went to Iran immediately after he left Toten Town, Minnesota's version of Boys Town. I didn't ask how long he was there. This was when he said, in Farsi, "Women are for childbirth; boys are for fun," and both DeCamp and his assistant, Gregory Tyrell started to laugh. I don't speak Farsi so I looked at them for a translation. DeCamp offered it. It was not funny.

It was very surreal. Perhaps that had something to do with why DeCamp was selected.(?) Who was paying the most for children/young women? Where were they from?
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Postby chiggerbit » Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:07 am

Paloma, did deCamp ever mention having been sexually abused? One member here at one time claimed that he had, if I remember right. I suppose the inside joke might have been ironic--maybe. Almost makes a person wonder if the story started way before Franklin, like maybe a generation before. DeCamp was born in Nebraska, so how did he end up in Totem Town, which I believe is east of St. Paul, Minnesota. It looks like it is juvenile correction --now, anyway, not sure about back then. Not sure who it's run by.

Why the heck was he sent to Iran back before Vietnam, though?
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Postby chiggerbit » Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:18 am

Ok, St. Paul area is maybe not the location I was thinking of, seems to be more like Onamia, but abuse is mentioned here by rbeck:

http://tinyurl.com/yfnmjny
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Postby chiggerbit » Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:23 am

I should mention that one or two of those Crosiers mentioned generally in that thread are also mentioned in a list at St. John's Abbey near St. Cloud Minnesota. I'll try to find it. St. John's is also VERY near where Jacob Wetterling was abducted, coincidentally, I think a matter of less than five miles. .
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