Hunter S. Thompson and Franklin

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Hunter S. Thompson and Franklin

Postby Percival » Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:23 pm

I am admittedly a huge HST fan, he is one of my favorite writers of all time and I have spent years looking in to everything I can about the man but I never could reconcile the HST/Franklin connection and even if it was the same Hunter Thompson that we all know and love that was part of it.

Lets discuss HST here whether it relates to Franklin or not I think there is something to be said about HST and snuff films but I really dont know what it is.

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Postby lightningBugout » Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:38 pm

I'd wager that HST has absolutely nothing to do with snuff films or Franklin. Seems like a dark joke made by one of the perps.
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Postby Percival » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:18 pm

lightningBugout wrote:I'd wager that HST has absolutely nothing to do with snuff films or Franklin. Seems like a dark joke made by one of the perps.


You may be right, I certainly hope so, it would be a big let down for me to find out otherwise since he was such a critic of the elite etc it would make him quite the hypocrite.
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Postby Jeff » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:22 pm

Bryant says Bonacci still doesn't know what Thompson looks like (couldn't ID him from a photo), so I'd say perp joke.
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Postby Percival » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:22 pm

Jeff wrote:Bryant says Bonacci still doesn't know what Thompson looks like (couldn't ID him from a photo), so I'd say perp joke.


Yea it wouldnt be easy to forget the real HST had you actually seen him. I didnt see that comment in Bryant's book, thanks for sharing!
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Postby Starcon5 » Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:07 pm

Your sadly mistaken if you believe that HST had nothing do with this. For a man who has been involved in this since the 60's.

A Dark/Sick/Perp Joke..!

I was more then glad to join this forum until I read this thread. Try talking to the victims of HST next time before you come up with I'm a number one fan and he had nothing to do with anything.

This Perp don't make jokes...
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Postby chiggerbit » Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:24 pm

This Perp don't make jokes...


I don't understand what this means.
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Postby §ê¢rꆧ » Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:18 pm

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Yeah, believe it or not Starcon5, we don't all agree on everything here. Sometimes we even change our minds.

I have never seen any testimony of alleged victims of HST available online. Perhaps you can point us to that?
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Postby chiggerbit » Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:47 pm

Yeah, believe it or not Starcon5, we don't all agree on everything here. Sometimes we even change our minds.


What an understatement. :twisted:
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Postby lightningBugout » Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:25 pm

Starcon5 wrote:Your sadly mistaken if you believe that HST had nothing do with this. For a man who has been involved in this since the 60's.

A Dark/Sick/Perp Joke..!

I was more then glad to join this forum until I read this thread. Try talking to the victims of HST next time before you come up with I'm a number one fan and he had nothing to do with anything.

This Perp don't make jokes...


The only "victim" I have heard of was Paul Bonacci who, as Nick recounts in his book, could not identify the real HST in a photograph. If there is more information we should look at, just post it here.
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Postby Dr_Doogie » Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:38 am

In a recent email conversation with Paul, he said that he does not know if HSt was the man he claims made the snuff film. He also said that the perps would use the names of famous people as aliases, so it seems likely that Hunter was not the man who made the film.

Hunter was both a genius and an obnoxious drunk, but he was probably not a pedo. It is a shame that he would be saddled by this label.
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Re: Hunter S. Thompson and Franklin

Postby semper occultus » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:43 pm

from the blog of sherman de brosse

Thompson was working on a story about how explosives leveled the World Trade Center and worried that he would be suicided. In a 2004 interview, he said: ”The Bush administration is a heap of Nazi shit. Bullshit. Yeah, you can put it that way. I don't know what your audience is ready for.”

When he died on February 20, 2005, Thompson was on the telephone with his wife when he allegedly shot himself, but she said she heard a muffled sound.

Chicago writer Sherman Skolnick has reported that Thompson was doing a book on the politically connected sex trade, but he offered no evidence to support this . There is only mention of Thompson in De Camp’s book, but Thompson never challenged it in court. The only other evidence comes from the Alex Jones radio program. A Thompson acquaintance had this to say:

CALLER “Scott from Texas”: I was just wondering if you guys might be able to clear up something I heard through the journalist Sherman Skolnick. He is reporting that another story or book, I don’t remember exactly which, that Hunter S. Thompson was working on was about this gay prostitution ring in the White House and supposedly that was another touchy topic that he brought out, and the wholeJONES: Had you heard that from Hunter?
PAUL WILLAM ROBERTS: Yeah, I had heard that quite a lot from Hunter. It goes back to Kissinger, I believe.
JONES: Wow.
Now that’s a big confirmation. Now for those who don’t know, We have Washington Times articles from 1989, you know—‘underage call boys in the White House’, and so this is serious . .. Hunter was working on that?
ROBERTS: Yeah, in fact Lyndon LaRouche published some stuff about that. And although, you know, a lot of his material was not that trustworthy, in this particular case there were a lot of sources cited and there was no lawsuit. And where there’s no lawsuit you can be almost guaranteed that it’s true.

sources :
“Hunter Thompson was working on WTC collapse story before mysterious sudden death, warned he'd be 'suicided'” Toronto Globe and Mail (February 26, 2005); Adam Bulger, “The Hunter S. Thompson Interview,” FreezerBox Magazine.com (March 9, 2004)
Shermak Skolnick, “Was Hunter Thompson Suicided?” Conspiracy Planet.com ( February 21, 2006)
“GOP Child Rapists and Hunter Thompson,”GNN.TV
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Re: Hunter S. Thompson and Franklin

Postby operator kos » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:33 pm

I just finished TFS, and Bryant identifies two sources for the HST rumors:

1) Paul Bonacci, as previously mentioned. Specifically, Bonacci said a snuff film producer introduced himself as "Hunter Thompson," but never actually said that it actually was HST or just someone using that name. Bonacci later couldn't identify a picture of HST, which suggests the latter.

2) Rusty Nelson, a kiddie porn photographer involved in Franklin. Nelson claimed that HST was a snuff film afficianado, but Bryant says he caught Nelson making up stories about all kinds of things (as if being a kiddie pornographer didn't bring his credibility into question enough).

I'm not trying to present this as the be-all, end-all of the situation, just putting it out there.
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Re: Hunter S. Thompson and Franklin

Postby chevalier » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:05 pm

This is something I'm very interested in too. I've always been a huge Hunter Thompson fan and I've read practically everything he ever published. He was sort of a hero of mine during my teen years and and overly extended adolescence. But the more I read about him the more I realized he did have a dark side. I find it hard to believe he was involved in snuff films or pedophilia -- and I am still very skeptical -- however I can't shake the feeling that there's some kind of fire to go with all the smoke.

Here's another data point. His former assistant, Nikole Brown, claims he watched snuff films.

One time I watched him beat his car because his cigarettes were locked inside, and another time he threw me out of the house for refusing to watch a snuff film. -In Memory of Hunter S. Thompson: Postcard From Louisville, Kentucky" by Nikole Brown

So that makes three sources for snuff film rumors, right?

I think one thing to ask is, do these stories about him even make any sense?

Maybe. As far as pornography goes, we know Thompson had an interest. Hunter was the honorary night manager of the Mitchell Brothers O’Farrell Theater, a notorious strip club in San Francisco. He spent a lot of time hanging out with strippers and people in the porn trade including the Mitchell brothers and porn director Gail Palmer (who incidentally accused Thompson of sexual assault). He even wrote not one but two books based on his experiences at the O'Farrell; a non-fiction book called The Night Manager and a fiction book entitled Polo Is My Life, neither of which have ever been published. The Mitchell brothers made a movie about Hunter's college campus tours, titled "The Crazy Never Die," which included scenes of hunter cavorting with naked strippers / porn actresses. So it's safe to say the sex industry is something Thompson was quite interested in and he knew and hobnobbed with some of the people in it. "Gonzo Journalism," the subjective style of journalism Thompson pioneered requires the reporter to be part of the story (see his first successful book Hells Angels for example). Is it then that far-fetched to speculate he may have gotten involved with the actual production of pornography in some way, considering he was researching and writing about it? Knowing that Thompson took so many things to far extremes (drinking, drug, guns, fast cars, motorcycles, etc.) is it ridiculous to speculate that he may have at least dabbled in some of the more extreme forms of pornography out there? And is there a more extreme form of pornography than snuff films? I know what I've just outlined is highly speculative and circumstantial, but I find the idea that Hunter could have been involved in these things at least plausible, unfortunately.

What about the Bohemian Grove story? This one is even further fetched. Yet, is it remotely possible that Thompson was a member of the Bohemian Club, or at perhaps the guest of a member? We can't really know because the membership list is secret. However, the Bohemian Club was founded by staffers of the San Francisco Examiner. Concurrent with Thompson's time at the O'Farell, he was writing a weekly column for The Examiner. He knew many politicians, writers and journalists, perhaps including some who may have been members of the club. He also spent a lot of time in San Francisco where the club is based. The modern Bohemian Club seems to go to great lengths to keep reporters away, but there are exceptions. Walter Cronkite was a member and a regular attendee of the Grove retreat, for example, and several accomplished journalist-authors are or have been members. While there isn't much corroborating the Grove story, it doesn't seem utterly impossible. I find it intriguing. The crazy partying they do at the Grove would have been right up Thompson's alley.

Autumn is always a time of Fear and Greed and Hoarding for the winter coming on. Debt collectors are active on old people and fleece the weak and helpless. They want to lay in enough cash to weather the known horrors of January and February. There is always a rash of kidnapping and abductions of school children in the football months. Pre-teens of both sexes are traditionally seized and grabbed off the streets by gangs of organized Perverts.

Most of these things are obviously Wrong and Evil and Ugly—but at least they are Traditional. They will happen.

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