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Re: Surfaced photos are too old to be Gosch

Postby godzorphan » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:56 am

Based on all I know about these cases, and the many players that become involved and make as much mess of it as they can and totally screw up the information, it may be difficult to ever get at a 100% completely accurate story from Noreen. I do know this: Johnny was taken. Everything I have seen both public and in private files and investigations has convinced me beyond doubt that Johnny was taken and used by a very sophisticated, well-moneyed freak group. I don't know about a lot of the other stuff that comes up. I don't know thing one about this Gannon guy. I can only pray that SOMEONE can get to Noreen and begin to extract her from all the people who have insinuated themselves into her situation and made it so SHE doesn't know the true story. In the end, even if these pictures turn out NOT to be of Johnny...someone sent them...and everything that's come up since simply re-energizes me in wanting to do something - because there are real kids getting exploited every day just like that not just here but worldwide. The pictures were a reminder to me that this war is not anywhere near over yet. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Surfaced photos are too old to be Gosch

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:11 am

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>I don't know thing one about this Gannon guy.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Godz, you do know the "situation" I'm talking about with Jeff Gannon, right? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Surfaced photos are too old to be Gosch

Postby biaothanatoi » Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:12 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Roy Harrold is talking to himself on websleuths as "pcarpent":<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>He's also writing in the third person on his <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://surrealitytimes.blogspot.com/" target="top">awful blog</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Surfaced photos are too old to be Gosch

Postby Dreams End » Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:15 am

godzorphan, I'd quote your entire post...but I guess that's redundant. <br><br>Let's pretend that the photos are all fake. Let's pretend that whoever contacted Noreen and pretended to be her son was a fake. And all the rest of it...that's an AWFUL lot of trouble for someone to take, isn't it?<br><br>Why would they do so? And Gannon is involved....on some level. The JG games, his background as a prostitute and his coy responses...his inexplicable access to the White House. There is nothing coincidental about all of this.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Surfaced photos are too old to be Gosch

Postby godzorphan » Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:25 am

honestly, no. I have not read her book. i have stayed on the investigation "boots on the ground" end of this for a long time; Gunderson's involvement put me out of the loop on the other stuff. Can u give me a brief or tell me where I can look? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Surfaced photos are too old to be Gosch

Postby godzorphan » Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:38 am

this is where it gets so hinkey. I wish I could outline in a short form all the complicated threads that weave themselves into this kind of high profile case. For a number of years, I worked on strictly occult-related crimes. But when I became involved in high profile pedo cases involving well-known people...it became a nightmare. Disinformation, misinformation, threats from high-level people, military people, law enforcement people...I really think people don't understand that pedo traders are just like drug cartels...how they blackmail...how they eliminate people...15 bil a year industry....why wouldn't they do everything in their power with all the things at their disposal to make SURE no one gets to the bottom of the network behind all this. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Surfaced photos are too old to be Gosch

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:46 am

Oh, cripes, godz, where to start. I'm thinking that DE and I are coming at this from opposite sides, for a change. Nevertheless, do you remember the hullabaloo about the "press" person who attended Presidential press briefings in which he lobbed very sweet, loving softball questions to the President when other press people started to ask more "difficult" (HAH!) questions? His new name was Jeff Gannon, but really it was Guckert. Turned out that he had ~ahem~ questionable credentials to even be attending these important briefings. Where did he get those? He also, apparently, had very weird log-in's/log-out's on the Secret Service (?) records into and out of the White House at very weird times, which did not coordinate well with these press briefings. Are you aware of this bit, before I get into more detail? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Surfaced photos are too old to be Gosch

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:02 am

Here's what the initial speculation was about: Was press soft-baller Jeff Gannon actually Noreen Gosh's son Johnny? Or do I mean "soft-balls" questions? Turns out that Bush press-pal "Jeff Gannon" apparently ran a male prostitute "service" of the military flavor.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.phpbbserver.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=176&mforum=jackblood">www.phpbbserver.com/phpbb...=jackblood</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Oops, dead link. Hmmm... <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 9/15/06 12:07 am<br></i>
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Re: Surfaced photos are too old to be Gosch

Postby FourthBase » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:12 am

godzorphan: <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>You haven't read her book</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->?<br>Not that I have, but I thought for sure you would have.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I wish I could outline in a short form all the complicated threads that weave themselves into this kind of high profile case.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>PLEASE TRY!<br><br>From that awful blog:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>This is what Roy had said on US Crimeblog - that the photos would probably turn out to be historic material from the 1970's already known to law enforcement.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Right, Roy knew <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>exactly</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> how it would all play out.<br>Hmmm...<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>How did the photos get to Noreen Gosch?<br><br>Is a good question. However, on the Des Moines Register blogsite, there is a claim to responsibility for sending the photos to people associated with Noreen Gosch and the conspiracy theories about her son, over the years<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>He then links to it, and it's "Jimmy"/"Jim"/"James" Gibson (Whoever impersonated him thinks that iterating the name in three different ways adds credibility, lol). The link doesn't bring you directly to the supposed Gibson post, and when you find it you see that curious parts of it with familiar themes weren't quoted on that awful blog:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Hi my name is Jimmy Gibson. I am writing you to tell my side of the recent development.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>"My side of the recent development"? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> Yeah, that's <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>exactly</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> how someone viscerally connected to the situation would describe it.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>About 3 weeks ago I recieved 3 photos to my email, I do not know who sent them nor do I know where they came from, it was a anom email account probably sent froma proxy server.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Ahhhh, an anonymous proxy server.<br>Is that related to an IP disguiser?<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I was quite shocked when I saw them and debated on wether I should send them to Noreen Gosch or not. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Yes the photos indeed look like it could be Johnny Gosch</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> but like everything in this world you are never really sure.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The image with the “brand” <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>I believe not to be Johnny and not a legit image at all</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, but the one with the three kids, the middle kid I believe couold be Johnny but again I doubt it. If someone is messing around and faked them they are sick. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>But they look real to me</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> and thats why I forwarded them to the people I stated above.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>Someone can't keep their story straight.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>When I was a child I had ran away (Notice I said ran away, NOT KIDNAPPED) from home numorous times and unfortunately <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>I met up with some bad people and they took advantage of me and forced me into things that to this day haunt me</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>He insists he wasn't kidnapped. That he instead "met up" with bad people who "took advantage of him" and "forced him" into things that still "haunt him". Sounds remarkably like what happened to Harrold/Gaison.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I went onto Americas Most Wanted as many of you have seen and the rest is history. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>I was sent into a depression afterwords and took a few years to come out of it. But I made it and took charge of my life</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>TMI. Funny, the same thing happened to Harrold/Gaison, no?<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I honestly didnt know what to do, if they were legit Noreen should know right? if they are not legit it just causes more pain for the families involved. So what does a person do?I did what I thought was the right thing, I sent the images to someone who would get them to Noreen. <br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Posting questions like that is probably not something the real Gibson would do, it's more like something that someone trying to impersonate Gibson would ask himself as he tried to concoct a story.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>But there are some people out there that constatnly remind me about it, like the images that were sent to me.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>Right, to "re-victimize" him.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I believe Mr. White blew this whole thing out of proportion and acted irresponsible.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>Yeah, sure Jimmy Gibson would say that. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I also think there is more to Johnny’s story than has been released and that both parents are holding back on some major details.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>Major details yet to be released! The parents know more than they let on! Who else has said similar stuff? Why, our very own Roy Harrold and his aliases.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Hi my name is <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Jimmy</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Gibson...<br><br>...Thanks<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Jim</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br> <br>- <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>James</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br>September 6th, 2006 at 8:39 am<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>18 minutes earlier a "Jon" posted this:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>I know that the photos sent to Noreen are not of her son, but were sent to her to prove a point.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> That she will jump on anything she gets to get into the media.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The photos came from a sicko pervert website called jacobstales.com aka steves gallery.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>These photos have been in the news before. Nothing new here. If you go to that website, clik the gallery link, then click user galleries and select the user “peps” you will see that there is a gallery called “tied up”<br><br>Click that gallery and you will see the same photos.<br><br>Sad but true, I doubt that these are her son. This site is one of those pedophila owned whch has no boundries.<br><br>Maybe now someone will try to put an end to ths site.<br><br>The problem here is that you could send her a photo of a child, and she will say it’s johnny. She is messed up in the head and I think she needs to take a break and seperate herself from all these people that are trying to help her.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>There is only one truth to what happened to Johnny, I believe she knows it and her husband and the WDMPD</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>- 18 minutes before the fake Gibson's revelation re: where the pictures came from, this "Jon" character (i.e. Roy) also happens to know and post where they came from. Kind of undercuts the Gibson thing, eh? Christ, if you're going to pull this shit Roy (or whoever you are) we should at least be grateful that you're an absolute fucking idiot and you give your game away so easily.<br><br>- This "Jon" <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>knows</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> that the photos aren't of Gosch and he also happens to know <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>why</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> the photos were sent. Oh really? I wonder how he would know.<br><br>- Again, "Jon"/Roy/Robin/etc. can't help but claim that the parents are hiding something, can't help but insinuate that they are behind the kidnapping.<br><br>Roy also seems to have posted as "no name":<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The media’s done nothing for the public on this case. The police department has had a theory on this since it happened but didn’t have enough evidence to state its theory publicly. The local media surely has knows this theory and yet continues to publish stories like this one, which focus attention in the wrong direction. You might notice how law enforcement is distancing itself from her. It is a tragic case, but it’s even more tragic that the media is greatly misleading the public on this. If you want to know the real story, stop a local des moines law enforcement official and ask him or her. I’m just an ordinary citizen and yet what I heard about this case from law enforcement wasn’t anything like what the media is reporting. <br> <br>- no name <br><br>September 1st, 2006 at 9:36 pm<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>Same M.O., same old Roy.<br><br>Earlier in the comments, one of the administrators of the Register had to step in and remove a series of hostile posts aimed at Noreen:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The majority of the offensive comments on this post were posted from one individual using different names</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.<br><br>Those comments have been deleted.<br><br>Our apologies. <br> <br>- newsroom <br><br>September 1st, 2006 at 5:52 pm <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>So, in summary: Roy you scumbag piece of shit you're busted again. Obviously you're the one who sent these pics. I will hold onto the slim (less than 1%) possibility that you're just deranged and acting out because you were also abused, but it seems more to me that you have done this in an attempt to discredit Noreen, her investigators, and the Franklin Coverup as a whole. I don't know who you represent, whether you're one of the perps or perhaps just being paid by the perps, but you can tell everyone you're associated with that they will burn in hell when they die -- and hopefully before they die they will be caught, convicted, and sent to a maximum security prison or better yet the electric chair. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=fourthbase>FourthBase</A> at: 9/15/06 12:33 am<br></i>
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Re: Surfaced photos are too old to be Gosch

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:17 am

Ok, sorry for changing subject in mid-course here, but I found something I asked about a page or two ago. A dead link of course. Here is a clip of the link (yes, I have the rest):<br><br>"....The CIA pedophile<br><br>In her book, "Why Johnny Can't Come Home," Noreen Gosch writes about <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>a man who contacted her just six months after Johnny's disappearance claiming he worked with a government agency that was investigating pedophile organizations</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>George Paul Bishop (often known just as Paul Bishop) claimed he was a "CIA asset" and arrived in Des Moines in July of 1984 to offer his assistance to the Goschs</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. Before he left, he provided, through his investigation, a detailed map of the kidnapping scene. Bishop, according to Noreen's book, often called the Gosch home from the Washington D.C. office of Sen. Charles Grassley, with whom Noreen had worked on Johnny's case. <br><br>"Many times Paul Bishop would call me from Sen. Grassley's office and, when finished speaking with me, he would hand the phone to one of Grassley's aides who I was familiar with," Noreen recalled in her book, published in 2000. "That convinced me Paul was an accepted visitor on the Hill in Washington."<br><br>Based on this, Noreen believed that Bishop was responsible for securing her invitation to testify before Sen. Arlan Specter's Hearing on Organized Crime and its Relationship to Kidnapping at the U.S. Capitol. Bishop, in fact, picked Noreen up from her D.C. hotel and accompanied her to the hearings.<br><br>Bishop became close to Noreen, even referring to her as "Mom," but suddenly, in 1985, he disappeared from the scene. The phone number he'd left was no longer valid and no one knew how to contact him. No one had seen or heard from him in almost 20 years, until he was suddenly arrested on Feb. 4 of this year in Virginia, after police allegedly found an explicit video of a 16-year-old boy in his home.<br><br>Detectives searched Bishop's home and found the tape after receiving a complaint that he was allowing teenage boys to drink and use drugs on the premises.<br><br>Noreen wonders now if Bishop was on the wrong side of Johnny's case all along. Was he involved in the kidnapping and merely running a smokescreen at the time to prevent discovery? Was his recent arrest an effort to keep him quiet about the larger story? A threat? <br><br>Or was he honest from the beginning and his recent arrest merely an effort to discredit him before he reappeared and started making noise and threatening to expose the powerful people involved?<br><br>Either way, Bishop seemed to know a lot about Johnny's disappearance in 1982, and his sudden reappearance on the scene coinciding with the outing of Jeff Gannon, the death of Thompson and the arrest of another man involved with the case (below) is too much of a coincidence for some to accept.<br><br>"It's very common to set someone up and arrest him to discredit him," says Rothstein.<br><br><br><br>The CIA pedophile<br><br>In her book, "Why Johnny Can't Come Home," Noreen Gosch writes about a man who contacted her just six months after Johnny's disappearance claiming he worked with a government agency that was investigating pedophile organizations.<br><br>George Paul Bishop (often known just as Paul Bishop) claimed he was a "CIA asset" and arrived in Des Moines in July of 1984 to offer his assistance to the Goschs. Before he left, he provided, through his investigation, a detailed map of the kidnapping scene. Bishop, according to Noreen's book, often called the Gosch home from the Washington D.C. office of Sen. Charles Grassley, with whom Noreen had worked on Johnny's case. <br><br>"Many times Paul Bishop would call me from Sen. Grassley's office and, when finished speaking with me, he would hand the phone to one of Grassley's aides who I was familiar with," Noreen recalled in her book, published in 2000. "That convinced me Paul was an accepted visitor on the Hill in Washington."<br><br>Based on this, Noreen believed that Bishop was responsible for securing her invitation to testify before Sen. Arlan Specter's Hearing on Organized Crime and its Relationship to Kidnapping at the U.S. Capitol. Bishop, in fact, picked Noreen up from her D.C. hotel and accompanied her to the hearings.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Bishop became close to Noreen, even referring to her as "Mom," but suddenly, in 1985, he disappeared from the scene. The phone number he'd left was no longer valid and no one knew how to contact him. No one had seen or heard from him in almost 20 years, until he was suddenly arrested on Feb. 4 of this year in Virginia, after police allegedly found an explicit video of a 16-year-old boy in his home.<br><br>Detectives searched Bishop's home and found the tape after receiving a complaint that he was allowing teenage boys to drink and use drugs on the premises.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Noreen wonders now if Bishop was on the wrong side of Johnny's case all along. Was he involved in the kidnapping and merely running a smokescreen at the time to prevent discovery? Was his recent arrest an effort to keep him quiet about the larger story? A threat? <br><br>Or was he honest from the beginning and his recent arrest merely an effort to discredit him before he reappeared and started making noise and threatening to expose the powerful people involved?<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Either way, Bishop seemed to know a lot about Johnny's disappearance in 1982, and his sudden reappearance on the scene coinciding with the outing of Jeff Gannon, the death of Thompson and the arrest of another man</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> involved with the case (below) is too much of a coincidence for some to accept.<br><br>"It's very common to set someone up and arrest him to discredit him," says Rothstein...."<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 9/15/06 12:23 am<br></i>
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Re: Johnny Gosch update

Postby stackdag » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:27 am

Fourth Base beat me to it. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=stackdag@rigorousintuition>stackdag</A> at: 9/15/06 12:35 am<br></i>
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Re: Johnny Gosch update

Postby stackdag » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:31 am

<br>Also, it seems this whole photo thing is just discrediting the case.<br><br>I got this from the De Moines register site:<br><br>"A Florida investigator said Wednesday photos that surfaced late last month of three bound-and-gagged teenage boys were taken before the disappearance of paperboy Johnny Gosch in 1982, in spite of new assertions by Noreen Gosch that they "absolutely" include her son.<br><br>"Certainly, our hearts go out to her because she's the boy's mother," said Nelson Zalva, an investigator for the Florida state attorney's office, who said he investigated the origins of the photos in 1979. "But I feel very certain these photos were from the case I investigated.""<br><br><br>So it portrays Noreen as saying she absolutley knew the photos were him.<br><br>But then this Zalva guy says " I FEEL very certain". How is that admissable. He either knows according to verified documentation or he doesn't.<br><br>Now that this jacob gallery thing is involved, I guess it discredits the pictures more. But I still don't accept a guy saying "I FEEL certain" as undeniable proof the photos are fake.<br><br>Just as I don't accept Decamp saying he's 90% sure Gannon is Gosch on the Flocco interview.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060914/NEWS10/609140393/1001/BUSINESS05">new article</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Johnny Gosch update

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:31 am

Ok, this is weird. I had saved the article to my files, but I had bunches of trouble just now copying the LINK at all, which is now dead anyway. Let's see if it comes out by this means, whether it is dead or not.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.topekadiy.com/xfsection+article.page+1+articleid+133+PHPSESSID+95226f50c876440047186fa214a143b3.htm">www.topekadiy.com/xfsecti...a143b3.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Johnny Gosch update

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:32 am

OK, still dead. If anyone wants, I can post the whole thing, since the link itself is dead, which is very weird. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Johnny Gosch update

Postby FourthBase » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:35 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Got this blog comment link from the pc carpent/ robin/ roy blog I guess. I don't know how you guys know it's the same person...same I.P. address I guess?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>No, it's just obvious.<br>Read my post above. <p></p><i></i>
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