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Six nuclear power plants are in Hurricane Florence's path

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:52 pm

Six nuclear power plants are in Hurricane Florence's path, officials say

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(CNN)Federal officials expressed confidence the six nuclear power plants in Hurricane Florence's path are safe, but some experts aren't so sure, warning that flooding and torrential rains could overwhelm their defenses.

The six nuclear power plants in North and South Carolina sit directly in the storm's projected path, according to Mary Catherine Green, spokeswoman for Duke Energy, which owns all six.
Duke's Brunswick Nuclear Plant and its Shearon Harris Nuclear Plant near Raleigh, both in North Carolina, are the closest to where the hurricane is forecast to make landfall, Green said.
In a press briefing, Jeff Byard, associate administrator for the FEMA Office of Response and Recovery, said the agency was not concerned about the power plants in the storm's path "at this time."
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"Those power plants are, one, obviously hardened. Two, they have backup generators for power and we will rapidly assess any impacts to a nuclear power plant post-storm," Byard said in a call with media. "Obviously, it's something that we track and monitor but at this time we're not concerned with any issues pertaining to the nuclear power plants."
However, The Union of Concerned Scientists, a science-oriented public policy organization, is concerned about the Brunswick plant's ability to withstand the storm, because of what the group says is a lack of publicly available information about the plant's readiness. According to the group, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission has not released public information validating that the plant has been properly updated to protect against flooding.
In 2012, Duke Energy reported to the NRC that there were hundreds of "missing or degraded flood barriers" at the plant. The follow-up report sent to the NRC by Duke Energy in 2015 was not made publicly available, according to The Union of Concerned Scientists.
NRC spokesman Roger Hannah said if the report wasn't made public it may have been because the report contained security-related information, but he wasn't aware of the 2015 report's status. Hannah said the Brunswick plant was up to code ahead of the storm.
"We have inspected their storm protections. We have looked at their preparations," Hannah said. "We're satisfied they met current NRC requirements."
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Flooding at nuclear plants became more of a concern after a 2011 earthquake and subsequent tsunami in Japan caused one of the worst nuclear disasters since the 1986 Chernobyl incident. Three nuclear reactors melted down at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, releasing dangerous radiation into the surrounding area.
Since the 2011 incident, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission has updated its requirements for nuclear power plants regarding natural disasters, according to former NRC chairman and managing director of the ND2 group Nils Diaz.
"These are 5-foot, 6-foot thick containment buildings," Diaz said. "Everything is put up high to prevent intrusion of a normal hurricane, but beyond that they have additional protections that are provided."
Diaz said he did not think there would be issues with the power plants in the upcoming storms.
NRC spokesman Scott Burnell said the Brunswick plant is properly fortified to withstand hurricanes of Florence's strength, and there are plans in place to shut down if necessary.
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"The [Brunswick] plant already has procedures in place both to shut down well in advance of hurricane effects actually occurring on site," Burnell said. "The plant also has procedures in place to reinforce what are already robust defenses against flooding to ensure that it will remain safe as the storm passes by."
Burnell said the NRC has inspectors on site at Brunswick to monitor the plant as the staff go through their storm procedures, which he said is standard practice for the agency.
He said each plant has resident inspectors on site, and one or two additional inspectors at sites that are expected to be more directly impacted by the storm.
"We have staff at every site on the Carolinas for these plants where there's the expectation of significant effects from the storm," Burnell said.
Emergency planners have contemplated the risks of a hurricane-related nuclear power plant issue on the East Coast. A hurricane simulation exercise conducted by FEMA and the Energy Department this spring considered how to respond to damage at a nuclear power plant, according to The Associated Press, which first reported the exercise.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/12/us/nucle ... index.html
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Postby Iamwhomiam » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:01 pm

They have every right to be concerned, as oversight is so slack. My sister lives in New Bern and I'm hoping she and her husband had sense to evacuate. Last update from her was more than 10 hours ago.

Other serious concerns are hog farms manure lagoons and the toxic waste ash from coal-fired power plants in coal ash retention ponds.

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Postby Asta » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:46 pm

Tell me about it....I live here. First time I ever went through a mandatory hurricane evacuation, should I stay or should i go I found myself humming. What do I take with me? How do I handle returning to nothing? Is there a drug for being devastated? Is it okay to cry? And for how long? Could I live in a FEMA fucking trailer, if I'm lucky enough to qualify for one.

That's just the tip of the ice berg.

Hog farms, nuclear power plants, contaminated water, muck, no power, spoiled food in refrigerators, the list goes on.

I got really really lucky. We left, and came back yesterday to an intact home. But I will never be the same again. Saw life in a totally different way, hope I never ever take anything for granted ever again.

Yes, we took all our pets with us. They were an inspiration. Especially the African Gray who kept saying "you're okay".
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Postby Cordelia » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:18 pm

^^^Thank you for writing the above Asta. I'm very sorry to read about what you're experiencing and glad you found your home intact. The trauma of displacement and worry is eloquently expressed in what you wrote. I hope you can settle in and recover. :praybow

So many more people seem to be going through the possibility and reality of losing their homes; just this week alone in S.C., N.C., Mass., plus all those not highlighted in the national news.

Yes, we took all our pets with us. They were an inspiration. Especially the African Gray who kept saying "you're okay".

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Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:51 pm

Glad to learn you made it through with your house intact, Asta. "You're okay." Is pretty funny. A bit of comic relief during a crisis. I imagine your parrot's head bobbing side to side and hear its voice in my head being repeated in Dustin Hoffman's voice as Rainman.

Public sewer systems will be overwhelmed and bypass waste treatment, discharging raw sewage in overflow directly into the rivers and public water supplies drawn from these rivers will most likely be contaminated and unsafe for drinking or bathing.

I'm sure my sister's house was flooded. She evacuated to my niece's home in Fayetteville, which by now may be being flooded as well.
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Postby 82_28 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:06 am

Yeah, iam, these are all the little details that are never considered. We call them "little" because like everything, outta sight, outta mind.
There is no me. There is no you. There is all. There is no you. There is no me. And that is all. A profound acceptance of an enormous pageantry. A haunting certainty that the unifying principle of this universe is love. -- Propagandhi
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Re: Six nuclear power plants are in Hurricane Florence's pat

Postby Asta » Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:47 pm

Iam, thank you for making me laugh...yes, the parrot DOES sound like Rainman. I haven't laughed in days. What an incredible feeling to laugh! I wish I could hug you! :hug1:

I hope your sister is safe. Not familiar with the Fayetteville area. While we were staying at the Sheraton in Chapel Hill, I was impressed by the amazing response teams who showed up in advance. Chapel Hill was designated as the emergency teams headquarters. Optimal location probably. There are a lot of really decent and caring people and to see how much people were willing to do to help others took my cynicism level down a few notches. Please let us know when you hear from your family.

Another edit: This is a link to the projected flood areas: https://www.wral.com/look-up-predicted- ... /17847487/
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Re: Six nuclear power plants are in Hurricane Florence's pat

Postby Iamwhomiam » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:59 am

Glad to have lifted your spirit, if only momentarily, Asta. :hug1: Sadly, the flooding will be historic, as the rains have been - nearly 36" in Elizabethtown so far, with most places receiving more than 20".

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/2018-09-15-florence-north-carolina-tropical-rain-record

And more to come:

https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=35.1085&lon=-77.0415#.W5_I7RFRes0

A Duke Energy coal ash retention pond failed. It's past time to outlaw unlined coal ash slurry retention ponds or to outlaw this manner of power plant waste "management" entirely.

Coal ash spill reported outside Wilmington, NC as Florence’s record rain totals mount
There are scores of environmental hazards in the storm's path.

https://thinkprogress.org/coal-ash-spill-wilmington-florence-e7cbb2cdf492/

Duke Downplays Threat From Coal-Ash Spill in Carolina Storm

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-16/duke-downplays-threat-from-coal-ash-spill-in-carolina-storm

Health effects of coal ash ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_coal_ash

Sometimes the best in people comes out when its most needed. Of course there will be some who say they were a great help when they weren't. How's your stock of paper towels? I hear hurricanes are wet.

I've yet to hear from my daughter to get an update on my NC family. Sometime later today, for sure.

Be well, Asta.
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Postby Iamwhomiam » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:20 pm

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article218530735.html

Duke Energy’s Brunswick nuclear plant inaccessible due to flooding, workers stranded
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