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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28 yo NY Democrat Socialist upsets

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:58 am
by liminalOyster
Pick any media source you like:

http:///www.google.com/search?q=Alexandria+Ocasio-Cortez

It's a good day.

Viva.

Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28 yo NY Democrat Socialist up

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:18 am
by Elvis
She kicked his ass, too! 57%

Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28 yo NY Democrat Socialist up

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:39 pm
by JackRiddler
I live two blocks away from NY-14. Some years Crowley has been my rep, some years Maloney.

A real progressive wins and the boss of Queens goes down. I honestly didn't think it possible, because of the eternal, near-insurmountable problem of going up against a corporate-funded permanent incumbent and a big machine, starting with zero name-recognition and no money, in an election most people in the district do not even know is happening thanks to our benighted, non-democratic society. Ocasio raised 1/10 the campaign funds that Crowley did, and that's actually fucking impressive, given that Crowley is a top fundraiser who runs a congressional PAC business. Erm, operation. The congressman from Homeland Security and yes-vote for the war of aggression in Iraq was spreading millions among his colleagues, gunning to replace Pelosi. Last year, he basically chose the new speaker of the NYC City Council.

Oh, and did I mention the outrageously rigged, closed New York party primary system? To vote, one would have had to switch registrations to Democratic 14 months in advance! All this is why voter turnout, in this first primary challenge to Crowley since 2004, was under 4%. That is typical, it was no better in 2004. In fact, out of 27 NY districts, Ocasio got the third most votes of any primary winner, and it was only about 16,000. Maloney got the most with 24,000, in a much richer, high-turnout district; incumbent Eliot Engel also got 21,000. The population of any district is about 730,000.

Ocasio's 24/7 grassroots push, no-bullshit progressive appeal, and capture of the alternative media in the final weeks actually worked. Crowley helped with some remarkable clumsiness, and despite all of the organizational and politician endorsements, the union bureaucracies, Clinton, etc. Paper tiger, exposed!

One block over in NY-12, my district, even Maloney got a scare from the suspect if progressive-talking Suraj Patel. He actually got more votes than Ocasio! Who knows what might have happened, if he'd stayed off the Tinder?*

Help me calm down! Suddenly I believe in Governor Nixon and Attorney General Teachout!

Numbers: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... tions.html

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* FYI, Patel is a hotel chain owner and professor of economics. He really did talk progressive stuff, including single-payer and a stance against military spending and war authorizations. When the NY Times showed up by appointment to his strategy meeting in a bar, he was swiping on Tinder. This was the guy's online strategy: he and his buds lure people in with fake pics on Tinder, and then engage the sucker and confess they're actually looking for votes. Besides the creep factor, how the hell is this going to work? Did they pick anyone up? This genius teaches at NYU?!

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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28 yo NY Democrat Socialist up

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:56 pm
by Belligerent Savant
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Impressive precedent.

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Matt Stoller

@matthewstoller
I'm going to show you just who @Ocasio2018, Justice Democrats, and DSA beat tonight. it isn't @JoeCrowleyNY. It's the most powerful people in America. Here are Crowley donors Sheryl Sandberg, Sean Parker, Google NET Pac, and Facebook's PAC.

9:40 PM - Jun 26, 2018



Matt Stoller

@matthewstoller
Replying to @matthewstoller
Crowley donors who lost tonight, part II: Intel, American Bankers Association, Citigroup, UPS, T-Mobile, Altria (Phillip Morris), ERNST & YOUNG, Florida Sugar Cane, Boeing, Constellation Brands, Altice, The Options Clearinghouse, Diageo, Cisco Systems...

9:47 PM - Jun 26, 2018


(Stoller continued to list entities in subsequent tweets)

Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28 yo NY Democrat Socialist up

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:21 pm
by liminalOyster
Help me calm down! Suddenly I believe in Governor Nixon.


You are such a Miranda.

Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28 yo NY Democrat Socialist up

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:11 pm
by Luther Blissett
I was excited about this until a woman I know (a far-left migrant from Colombia) told me that she wants to bring back la migra. Anyone have anything on this?

Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28 yo NY Democrat Socialist up

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:17 pm
by American Dream
I thought she wants to abolish ICE?

Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28 yo NY Democrat Socialist up

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:27 pm
by Luther Blissett
Yeah it seems off to me too, but I do believe this person. Maybe she had bad info.

Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28 yo NY Democrat Socialist up

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:01 am
by 82_28
Agitprop, flak, scattering the signal, FUD?

Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28 yo NY Democrat Socialist up

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:07 am
by 82_28
As a 28 year old, I think of all the shit about these forces are going to exert upon her. At 28, fuck yeah, I'd be with someone like her then and I am positively now. But she has quite a bit of learning to do. She will need some serious existential protection. Also, as an ex bartender, they are digging up all kinds of shit on her right now -- guaranteed. And I am sure all true even though it doesn't matter. But they are.

Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28 yo NY Democrat Socialist up

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:24 am
by JackRiddler
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Oh yeah, I'll spare you the story of how I actually came to watch the last season of Sex in the City involuntarily, but I do get the joke and you are right, I wanted to be Miranda... preferably going out with Samantha!

The precedent is why Ocasio is a big story. Crack one of these nuts, suddenly it's possible everywhere. And Ocasio herself can choose to be a catalyst in the process, that's up to her (and shows an inherent weakness in representative politics, always needing a leader structurally).

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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28 yo NY Democrat Socialist up

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:42 pm
by liminalOyster
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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28 yo NY Democrat Socialist up

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:34 am
by Iamwhomiam
Luther Blissett wrote:I was excited about this until a woman I know (a far-left migrant from Colombia) told me that she wants to bring back la migra. Anyone have anything on this?


I think she's wanting the families immigrant detainees reunited. :shrug:

JackRiddler wrote:Oh, and did I mention the outrageously rigged, closed New York party primary system? To vote, one would have had to switch registrations to Democratic 14 months in advance! All this is why voter turnout, in this first primary challenge to Crowley since 2004, was under 4%. That is typical, it was no better in 2004.

Not disagreeing with your first sentence quoted above, but regarding your second that I've added bold emphasis to, I think someone's pulling your chain if they've convinced you that you need to submit a change of party affiliation 14 months prior to a primary election. The general rules on deadlines for registering to vote are here: http://www.elections.ny.gov/votingdeadlines.htmlNew York

Consolidated Laws, Election Law - ELN § 5-304. Enrollment;  change of enrollment or new enrollment by previously registered voters https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/election-law/eln-sect-5-304.html

It would be wise to learn more about voting by Affidavit Ballot:
New York Consolidated Laws, Election Law - ELN § 5-208. Transfer of registration and enrollment https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/election-law/eln-sect-5-208.html

New York Consolidated Laws, Election Law - ELN § 8-302. Voting;  verification of registration https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/election-law/eln-sect-8-302.html See subsection 3-e(ii).

Should your change of registration through affidavit ballot casting be rejected, you'll probably not be informed, so don't assume you're registered and wait to be rejected at the polls next go-round, check with the BoE early on to be sure you are.

That's new Brooklyn energy! Congrats to Alexandria Ocasio Cortez on whooping Crowley and the Dem Machine!

Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28 yo NY Democrat Socialist up

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:16 pm
by JackRiddler
Nope, I've got it right. That page has different rules on it and you are looking at deadlines for FIRST registration. People turning 18 or people moving into New York State can register on those deadlines and vote in the D-primary.

On the same page it says:

CHANGE OF ENROLLMENT (N.Y. Election Law Section 5-304(3))
An application to change one’s party enrollment for 2019 must be received by the board of elections no later than October 12, 2018.


See, if you are ALREADY registered but NOT ALREADY registered as a Democrat, then to vote in a 2019 Democratic primary you must change your party affiliation in October 2018, 13 months before the November 2019 general election. (The actual law is: one before Election Day in the year PRIOR to the party primaries in which you wish to vote.) Move those dates back to 2018 and 2017 for the present situation. To have been able to vote this week (or to be able to vote in September), I would have had to change my affiliation in OCTOBER 2017, see? That's always been the rule, and it is the strictest in the whole fucking country. Many states are open primaries at least for independents, you can choose which primary to vote in, or register or switch affiliations on the same day. And it's a smart fucking thing for parties to do, if they are interested in building bases and winning voters. But guess what! It's the Michels party bureaucracy that matters, especially for the Democrats. (They are a "real" party in this country. With the Republicans, as we have seen, all you have to do is bring a lot of money and pledge allegiance to the Republican Creed.)

But I've been aware of it. I regretted it when Sanders actually started winning, but for years I've continued to feel an awful ALLERGY about dropping the Greens and registering with the Democratic Party for some crazy reason, and I find it pretty un-democratic that to have a marginal voice in New York State elections it is not enough to be a voter, no, I have to declare allegiance or at least membership in the motherfucking machine of Cuomo et al. 13 months in advance (of the general, not the primary, true enough - 10 months before the primary!).

I may finally do it. NY primary has been the climactic one a couple of times in presidential elections, like in 2016, and both times I was for the loser.

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Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28 yo NY Democrat Socialist up

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:47 pm
by JackRiddler
Ok, seriously, this is what Hannity's show displayed as a graphic to detail all the horrors that Ocasio-Cortez supports.

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Hope this was kept on screen and read out loud in full.

Keep up the good work getting the word out, Comrade Hannity!

Next time remember to add that she supports broad unionization, $15 minimum wage, an end to the wars, cutting the military budget, green energy conversion. Make a proper powerpoint of it. Read it slowly for your viewers, they need to be warned in full and some of them are kind of slow or hard of hearing, okay? Let that "Support Seniors" sink in.

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