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What the hell was Giuliani doing in London?

Postby Jerky » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:34 pm

How many times has he been to London in, oh, say... the last ten years? What's the probability that the face of 9/11 would be in London for its first-ever Islamist terrorist attack?<br><br>Are those numbers even crunchable? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: What the hell was Giuliani doing in London?

Postby antiaristo » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:45 pm

And staying at the Great Eastern. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: leap year

Postby wolf pauli » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:02 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Then wouldn't you need to add a day to the 483 too?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>No. The extra day was in February '04. The Madrid bombing was in March '04. <br><br>Maybe you can do something with the fact that where <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>d</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->(n) is the divisor function representing the sum of all positive divisors of n, including 1 and n itself, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>d</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->(911) = 912. Or how about: 912 is both a <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>composite</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> number and an <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>abundant</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> number? Or a 305-gonal number? Or 912 = 1110010000 in base 2, 1020210 in b3, 32100 in b4, 12122 in b5, 4120 in b6, 2442 in b7, 1620 in b8, 1223 in b9 ...? <br> <p></p><i></i>
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re: leap year

Postby binndare » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:46 pm

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Re: re: leap year

Postby Sweejak » Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:14 pm

Via Hraunfjord forum:<br>Odd, via Hraunfjord<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>But MSNBC TV translator Jacob Keryakes said that the statement in which the group claimed responsibility for the attacks contained an error in one of the QuraÕnic verses it cited. That suggests that the claim is phony, he said.<br><br>"This is not something Al Qaeda would do," he said.<br><br><br>Is that the link to the mistake in the Quaran??<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=8925">www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin...ce_id=8925</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>However, aljazeera.net doesn«t mention anything about it..............<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/812224C7-006D-4424-B15B-EC3E8381A4D7.htm">english.aljazeera.net/NR/...81A4D7.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br>So are there two Al Jazeeras? And why wouldn't this rather important bit of info be in both? And why in the translations I have come across is there no mention of Koranic verses? <p></p><i></i>
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Giuliani's presence

Postby heath7 » Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:38 am

Was Netanyahu scheduled to be at the same event that Giuliani was at during the first bombing? I'm curious why Netanyahu got a warning, but Giuliani didn't. I'll bet being above that first bomb really got Rudy to thinking about everything he knows about 9-11 that us lay people don't. I'll bet it'll be a little harder for those in the know to conjure the will to let some light shine on 9-11. Not that I think Giuliani was dying to let us know more about that day.<br><br>...Robert Novak has rumored that Rehnquist is retiring next week. That means two openings on the Supreme Court, one of them for Chief Justice, while America is all up in a rage for security over liberty.<br><br>... On London 7/7, once again, something terrible happens and the Bush camp will come away smelling like roses. As a matter of fact, Bush seems to benefit in every conniving way from this whole sordid affair; still, no one will attempt to notice where the spoils actually lie. <p></p><i></i>
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'sometimes I feel like a motherless child'

Postby rain » Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:56 am

antiaristo, I'm so sorry.it was meant as a generality, not personal, specific, as in 'if you're late, for school, you'd better have a note from your mother'<br>'can you love one who breaks your heart?'<br>of course. just one of 'Love's' little tests. to see, acknowledge, accept another, individual or collective, just as they are, with all their apparent complications and contradictions, disengaged from the petty self's presumed needs, wants, desires, projections, seems to me, a requisite prac. class in the learning of Love and it's complimentary aspect Peace.<br>here's Paracelsus' take on it.<br>and, Starman, this one's for you too.<br>'Man is not body. The heart, the spirit, is man. And spirit is an entire star, out of which he is built. If therefore a man is perfect in his heart, nothing in the whole light of nature is hidden from him' <p></p><i></i>
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Cover-up in full swing

Postby Peachtree Pam » Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:46 am

Phony balony Tony's intelligence services are making sure that their mistakes are quickly covered up. Check out this interesting piece from Real History:<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://realhistoryarchives.blogspot.com/">realhistoryarchives.blogspot.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :x --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/sick.gif ALT=":x"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Guiliani in London

Postby Peachtree Pam » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:14 am

Good old Guiliani is a man who knows how to make a buck out of a terrorist attack...or was he simply rewarded for keeping a straight face throughout 9/11?:<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://archive.columbiatribune.com/2004/Jul/20040711News016.asp">archive.columbiatribune.c...ews016.asp</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :x --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/sick.gif ALT=":x"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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More from Zymphora

Postby Peachtree Pam » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:46 am

Friday, July 08, 2005<br>More on London bombs<br><br><br>More on London bombs:<br><br><br>I prefer the hybrid model for all these attacks, by which I mean the involvement of real Islamic terrorists guided by an intelligence agency. The intelligence agency funds much of the operation, chooses the targets and the time, and provides technical assistance. The Islamic terrorists provide most of the manpower. In some cases the terrorists are completely fooled into participating (probably what happened in Madrid, a Spanish police operation with Muslim men tricked into being in the wrong place at the wrong time), and in some cases they go along with the promptings of the intelligence agency as the operation fits into their own agenda.<br><br>Problems <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8496293/">www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8496293/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> in the taking of responsibility may either indicate a mistake by the sponsoring intelligence agency, or, more likely, a lack of education in the al Qaeda 'cell' coupled with the lack of communication necessary in an operation that relies on independent cells.<br><br>Did you notice how much better the Wikipedia article is <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_J...n_bombings</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> than anything in the old-fashioned mainstream media?<br><br>Blair was riding high with the Olympic win and the G-8 summit, so it is unlikely that he was aware of the operation. That is not to say that there was no British government involvement.<br><br>The attack will almost certainly allow the imposition of fascistic ID cards on the British population, a goal that was dead prior to the attacks due to the complete rejection of the idea by the British public.<br><br>From WagNews:<br>"The bombings come just a day after London was selected to host the 2012 Olympic games, and after a world focus on London as part of the Live 8 concert events. Were the attack to have taken place just 24hrs. before - it would have scuppered London's bid for the games."<br><br><br>The timing was very fine. It did not ruin the British Olympic bid, as the British plutocrats dearly wanted the Olympics, but it needed to happen before the G-8 Summit started. It can now be used to start a new war in the Middle East, to protect Bush from having to commit on climate change, and to shelter Bush and Blair from recent revelations about the lies which led to the attack on Iraq.<br><br>The Israelis got caught in a big mess attempting to claim that they were not given prior warning by British officials, when they clearly were given such warning, and Netanyahu changed his plans because of the warning. Much is being made of this, but to me it indicates no Israeli involvement (well, at least not by the mainstream Israeli government). Had Israel been involved in the attack, it would have been much better prepared to spin it properly. The confusion is evidence of innocence.<br><br>The attack appears to be technically identical to the Madrid attack. Bombs in bags triggered by cellphones. Some are trying to argue that the sophistication of the attack means that the West now has to throw all caution to the winds and engage in a full fledged war against Islam. This is nonsense. Rather than being sophisticated, the attack was absurdly simple. It could be repeated anywhere in the world tomorrow. There is no defense against it. That alone should prompt us to conclusively reject the insane Zionist model that we can somehow fight a war against terror. The only appropriate response is to find out what's bugging the Islamic world, and negotiate a rational agreement. That would involve the same three completely reasonable requests we have always faced:<br><br><br>a fair resolution of the Palestinian problem, which would involve the creation of a viable Palestinian state (so this predictable response is completely backasswards);<br><br>removal of Western troops from Islamic countries (moving them from Iraq to Afghanistan doesn't count!); and<br><br>replacement of corrupt Western toady regimes in Middle Eastern countries.<br><br><br>Each of these requests is completely just, and progress needs to be made before more innocent people are killed.<br><br><br>It appears that the old deal between the British government and international terrorism - that London would host terrorist organizations from around the world, and not interfere with their international operations, on condition that they not attack London - is now over.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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re: cover-up...

Postby rain » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:37 am

Pam, first, THANKS. your coverage of this has been great right from go.<br><br>re:realhistory - I would have thought that the surveil. system would have been pertinent from the outset. can't recall it even being alluded to in the media I was watching and listening to. nor in that forum thread. are most Londoners unaware of it too? even if/when they pull the bunnies out of the hat, and considering that this would lead straight back to Tavistok, (not to mention, the 'renditions') that only sharpens the focus.<br>and, no, we can't afford to be that patient.<br>hey, Patrick Fitzgerald, I'm looking at you. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: rain - no need

Postby antiaristo » Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:06 am

Rain,<br>Please please please don’t apologise. It was a fair question and deserving of a reply. Another poster recently used the Stephen Knight quote:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>There is no defence against an evil which only the victim and the perpetrator know exists</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>That is exactly my position. And as a result I get a spiritual boost when I am asked a question, rather than ignored.<br><br>On the London bombings, I’m very unsure. At the moment I’m slightly leaning towards a genuine attack. Mainly because of the timing.<br><br>Her Majesty has arranged an exceptional conjunction this week, viz:<br><br>Chairmanship of the G8<br><br>Presidency of the EU<br><br>Presidency of the UN Security Council<br><br>Winning the 2012 Olympics<br><br>British Grand Prix<br><br>British celebrations for the end of WWII (the Brits did not take part on 9 May. Presumably Her Majesty was dissatisfied with the arrangements.)<br><br><br>So I’m not sure about the timing. Richard Norton Taylor was good yesterday in the Guardian, and explained that there is a steady flow of volunteers leaving Britain to fight in Iraq. They are being formed into teams and then sent back to Britain to resume their normal lives. Impossible to penetrate.<br><br>BUT I’ve been reading some of Pam’s stuff above and there are grounds for suspicion (BTW Pam, I see you are a doughty fighter for what is right. I’m sorry I hectored you.)<br><br>AND I don’t want to blow my own trumpet, but if my earlier speculation was correct (see comments on Jeff’s piece The Italian Job) then ANY price would be worth paying to take control of the agenda.<br><br>Here is what another pundit wrote about the European “constitution”.<br><br><br>4. Shockingly, the ECT demands all states' subservience to NATO: '[M]ember states shall undertake progressively to improve their military capacities.' (1-40-3). Article 1-40-2 says that European defence policy shall be compatible with members' NATO obligations, a direct recognition of the superior judicial status of that military organisation. Furthermore, the article continues with even greater precision that "participating member states shall work in close collaboration with NATO". Even in situations of "internal serious disturbances affecting public order, in cases of war or of [...] the threat of war", member states are obliged to work together in order to avoid "affecting" the functioning of the "internal market"! (III-16)'<br><br>Source: Apostate Windbag<br><br>Plus, it took me five months to see the crucial connection between the bombing of Madrid and the failed coup in Equatorial Guinea. Best to keep an open mind at this early stage.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Connecting the dots

Postby Peachtree Pam » Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:51 am

Antiaristo,<br>Thanks, I didn't feel hectored, I was just a bit puzzled... anyway you do a good job of connecting the dots and that is what is needed now more than ever..<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :x --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/sick.gif ALT=":x"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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so, while we wait for them

Postby rain » Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:46 am

to be seen to be going through the motions of tracking down and dusting-off those naughty bunnies, who presumably somehow managed to sneak in, in the dead of night, or whilst people were looking the other way, switch off the surv. system, wire things up, in at least four separate places, switch the system back on, and, no doubt, sniggering surreptitiously, hop back to their burrows, here's Sherman's take on things -<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.rense.com/general66/over76.htm">www.rense.com/general66/over76.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>and a bit more -<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm">urbansurvival.com/week.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>(both on rense.)<br>which again has me wondering about bunny holes and where they go, given little tid-bits like that the 'Tribune', according to Sherman, 'gets it's pulp and other newsprint from Jesuit facilities by way of a perpetual contract originally signed by the King of England in the C19th.'<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A55560-2005Feb1?language=printer">www.washingtonpost.com/ac...ge=printer</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://dailykos.com/story/2005/7/4/194450/3086">dailykos.com/story/2005/7/4/194450/3086</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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will it speed up from here?

Postby zangtang » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:11 pm

so Denmark and Italy next then is it?<br><br>This shit is getting so transparent its like watching a game unfold - by which i don't mean i know exactly who did this, but we can imagine the sordid little agreements between increasingly sub-human filth as they settle on a win-win scenario, nicely timed, not much of a window, they're insisting on our home turf, we said you keep that bodycount low, but they have to make the impact, yes, well executed all round,methinks, ..sad days tho, i need a stiff one.<br><br>forty families bereft, forty lovers lonely.<br><br>I'm off to learn how to dig an artesian well in the back garden <p></p><i></i>
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